Can a belgian sums up the history of his country real quick ?

>>69262642
They're seperatist scum and they can't pronounce the letter g
That's all you need to know

>>69262721
how would the flemish guy pronounce "George"
like Jorge in spicspeak?

>>69262808
germanic speaking commoners fighting the french kings, austrians inherit all the clay suddenly, they hand it over to spanish, shitshow for a hundred years, dutch turn protestant, flemish remain catholic, french take everything again, elite starts speaking french, dutch annex, revolution&independence, french elite builds up a lot of industry in their part, ww1&ww2 nothing interesting, and then postindustrialism so north is now the rich part, frenchies and dutchies struggle over brussels now and that's it
once brussels goes 100% french (read morroccan) the north might just say fuck everything and secede

>>69262808
we don't really have the english/international g sound (voiced velar stop)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_velar_stop

our g is the infamous throat sound

this is me saying "grote grauwe ganzen" (big greylag geese) like i normally would

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0SMV7aedCH3

and this is the belgian pronunciation:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0qiDA5ZNgc6

George would be "sjors" in dutch (both belgian dutch and dutch dutch)

>>69263197
yeah, they have a softer ''g'' sound
and the dutch have a more english sounding ''r'', kinda comes from the back of the mouth, while the flemish ''r'' kinda comes from the throat, similar to the french ''r'' but from even deeper
around brussels the flemish have a french sounding ''r'' as far as i understood
for example, the word ''graag'' kinda seems like it can be pronounced in so many ways
but i could be wrong, i'm just starting at A1

>>69263355
the dutch R is a world of mysteries and it's a bit more nuanced than that

Most dialects/accents used to have a rolling R/ tapped R in every place

Here's me saying | rabarber" like that:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s02YQPJaz2ut

Southern Dutch dialects/accents and city dialects/accents have a French R coming from the back of the throat

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0mDsBbrcMpS here's my attempt

Recently, the R at the back of a syllable, when not succeeded by a vowel has shifted to the english R. In the next recording pay attention to how the first R is a normal, rolled R and the others are english, sliding R's.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qDR6bYOeXG (sounds gay as fuck)

you also have French R / English R combos. Like above, but with a french R instead of a rolled R.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0EcswQ2sHht

then there are some weird fringe dialects that use this english R in every place (the city of Leiden in particular) but that sounds very weird.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ky9qgrePIt

The situation in Belgium is also devided. The provinces of Limburg and the cities of Gent, Antwerpen and Brussel do indeed have french R's. The other provinces however have rolling R's (in every place, so no english R's). Rolling R's are also the standard variety in Both Holland and Flanders.

>>69263849
there are also some accents in the east which drop the R entirelly if at the end of a syllable and succeeded by a consonant

sport sounds like spoht

>>69262642
the Fench army cucked us into this abomination

>>69262642
dunno m8 ask wiki

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It's a racist country that cut the hands of niggers and put niggers into zoos.

>>69267943
It was different times.
I remember in 1971 when I walked into the zoo and saw Turkish people in a cage along with camels, and they were forced to breed. Nowadays, we see them work our working class-tier jobs. I guess at least they're being put to good use now.

>>69268129
What the fuck is wrong with you """"people?""""

>>69268129
lol