America: 50% Republic 50% Oligarchy 100% Cucked

>Bernie Sanders

Who?

>people untouchable by political money because they've already got it

The swamp is drained

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What did he mean by this?

>>69159340
What about conflict of interests?

These already powerful people now have government power as well

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>>69159300
>100% cucked
Jokes on you aussie faggot
I voted for the memes and I got the meme
I ain't no cuck

It shows they can handle money. Maybe theyll make americas budget great again and stop getting into denbts

>>69159340
>Oh yes I already have a shit ton of money
>This means I dont want even more money
Ah the american logic

>>69159300
Ah yes, we should punish and distrust successful people

>>69159354
I've never seen that quote before.
And I've watched a lot of his speeches.
And he repeats himself a fucking lot.

>>69159398
>successful people
No we should punish and distrust people that openly admit they don't care about common people's interest.
Fucking edgy cucknuck faggot.

>>69159381
This kind of thinking is why Trump got flack for refusing the presidential salary.

He's only taking a dollar because he has too take money for being president

>>69159480
*to*

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>>69159300
>Hurr durr they are rich people and apparently that implies that they are evil hurr durr

You could even argue about the benefits of non-career politicians and already wealthy people into politics.

Trump is going to be the most latino president we've ever had.

>extremely wealthy landowner
>most problems can be blamed on a wealthy foreign country
>all other problems can be solved by blaming immigrants from neighboring countries
>constant references to things being big and huge
>puts all his rich cronies in power
>promises grand public works projects that will never actually be completed
>I'm super manly guys, believe me

test.

>>69159529
HAIL CAESAR!

>>69159340
The pretzels drumpftards twist themselves into to justify Trump's cabinet choices puts the intellectual dishonesty in stark relief.

>>69159300
>Wealthy is bad meme

>people are actually defending this

Holy crap, what is class? Why do you think the world is in the mess it is now? Do you think some people are just nice and others are just mean?

Don't you know that rich people are the establishment? Don't you know they literally don't give a shit about you and do everything they can to make more money?

Watch as Trump reneges on every single promise he has made to you. You get poorer and they get rich and best of all you defend it.

>>69159440
Do you have examples of the Trump administration openly claiming they don't care about the common people's interest?

>>69159659
>Why do you think the world is in the mess it is now?

Communism and socialism that plagued the West since the beginning of the 20th century

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>>69159300
>salty socialist fag who sold out to his voters and endorsed Killary

Opinion immediately discarded

>>69159659
>people are actually defending this
It's called intellectual diversity. We all have the same goals, a strong, free, fair, and prosperous nation, but eople have different ideas on how to define and achieve that
>Holy crap, what is class?
An inevitability. Are you a communist ideologue?
>Why do you think the world is in the mess it is now?
What mess? Can you select a specific mess?
>Do you think some people are just nice and others are just mean?
Of course I think that, it's a fact.
>Don't you know that rich people are the establishment?
Which rich people?
>Don't you know they literally don't give a shit about you and do everything they can to make more money?
The best way for them to make money is to keep everyone employed and spending money happily. They don't get richer by letting the majority wither on the vine. Except maybe in communist societies. Capitalism works best when everybody has expendable income

>>69159300
you're just salty cause we're less obese than you.

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>>69159659
>muh class warfare meme

>>69159440

How are your interests improved by a Dept. Of Education or a Dept. Of Energy?

But yes fuck Wall Street.

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>>69159862
>But yes fuck Wall Street.

Why?

>>69159659

So then we will vote him out and fix it.

I have low expectations myself but I have faith in Americans.

>>69159909

Watch The Big Short.

>>69159529
He's a Banana Republic dictator, he really sounds like Nicolás Maduro

>>69159480
Well won't he get in trouble if he touches his other assets as President? I heard that's part of him having to give up his company. Also that signing it over to family doesn't count as elimination the conflict of interest.

>>69159988
That suggests what? That a few people created and a few more foresaw the housing bubble and found a way to capitalise on it? This is somehow proof that all of Wallstreet corrupt and evil? Despite the fact that it was also Wallstreet insiders who were trying to blow the whistle early on?

ARMs are the ultimate villian here, and even they are fine so long as people can reasonably expect steady cost of living increases. The problem is that the fed has ruined and inflated currency and jobs are constantly bleeding overseas. People aren't getting the living wage that they should.

>>69159381

If you are a modest politician that relies on shady lobby money as your source of income you will be far more prone to it

How does that not register on your tiny mind you indian retard

>>69159359

There is the potential for that, but my point stands. Far easier to track conflict of interest and if they abuse their position I'm all for holding them accountable.

>>69159988
the housing bubble was caused by Washington retards forcing banks to give loans to low income Americans who the banks knew wouldn't be able to pay them back.

those same people when on to blame wallstreet for everything even though it had nothing to do with the bubble to begin with.

it's the same deal as in the great depression; people kept taking out loans without giving any thought to whether they'd be able to pay them back and then when the market crashed they blamed the bank for their shitty decisions.

the idea that a few banks could single handedly crash an economy of hundreds of millions of individuals is an insane lie that retards buy into.

>>69160255
He is setting up a blind trust with his family as the trustees. Critics claim that he will still be running things and is just using them as proxies. However, even discussing the businesses with them could possibly be against securities laws regarding stock manipulation and insider trading, and, with him being president, could even go as far as treason (depending on the circumstances).

He built an empire and wants to make sure his family inherits and benefits from it. I don't blame him. If I open a landscape business and years later become mayor of my town, creating a conflict of interest, I would want to leave the business to my children, not hand it over to a stranger and cut them out of their inheritance. If he breaks the law he will likely get caught, impeached, and probably punished.

>>69159300
Bernie Sanders is the biggest cuck out of this whole thing.

The DNC sabotage him
He finds out he got sabotaged and backs the establishment that that fucked him over.

>>69160255
He's not legally required to do anything about his businesses. The first Presidents had plantations and shit and nobody cared. Now all the sudden the media wants everyone to try to get Trump to give up all his assets for no good reason. I hope he keeps all his shit.

>>69159773
>They don't get richer by letting the majority wither on the vine.

Yes they do, the NAIRU has been rising and will continue to rise.
http://www.economonitor.com/blog/2010/07/rising-nairu/
>>69159730
Communism is the reason you got the New Deal in America ignoramus.
>>69159792
>he literally thinks people who make billions of dollars ever think about his interests
>he thinks he shares interests with people who make feudal kings look like paupers
Idiocy of the highest order.

>>69160754
>Communism is the reason you got the New Deal in America
You mean the threat of Communism destroying Western society?

Communists themselves at this time had done nothing but murder a president and bomb a shopping mall. FDR and the New Deal Democrats implemented these programs to counteract the threat of rising Communist sentiment.

>>69159300
He's also a joo shill

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can he fix america from the oligarchy?

>>69159300
It's better handing the country to people that actually know how to make money than handing it to people that just know how to spend it.

Trump's cabinet is like the old grandpa that doesn't waste its money very often, but knows how to save it;
Bernie's cabinet would be like a crazy bitch that thinks her credit card will never expire or hit the credit wall, and for the same reasons she would do it, because she knows someone else that actually has a job would be paying for her expenses.

Give me a break you leftards, how much money someone has isn't actually relevant at all, all that matters is how they handle their own finances, and left wing people will never understand this because they think they can always raise the taxes when their bills arrive.

And trump saved way more money on his win in his campaign than hillary wasted in her lost.

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>>69159664

The amount of people dazzled by Trump's personal wealth reminds me of this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHZFYpQ6nc

>>69160454
Redpill a newb here - what effect did deregulation of the economy have on the US?

>>69159354
Except for when their kids go on to become serial killers.

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>>69159365
>Stop getting into *debts
Now that would just be un-American. Crippling, unplayable debt due overbuying is one of the cornerstones of our nation.

>>69161352
GFC and the recession the world is still in.

>>69161352
>what effect did deregulation of the economy have on the US?
this is too open ended a question to answer

Should he put people in his cabinet based on wealth?

Socialists never cease to amaze me.

>>69160454

To be fair, the financial institutions did commit to some fraudulent practices once they knew the gubmint would bail them out. But yes, the government is largely to blame for 07-08

>>69159300
Whats hilarious is they think this is REALLY good for America LMAO

Get more poor, you useless poors and hardworking middle classes

>>69160645
Hell, most of the countries early politicians were printers who only got into politics for the printing contracts.

>>69159300
Trumpfag would rationalise anything. If Trump reverse all his promises tomorrow they would still make up some shitty excuses to support him.

>>69161679

Why wouldn't it be good with competent people? Are you of the belief that a Sanders presidency would be good for the people? Since when have socialism ever been good for the people?

>>69159300
lel

>>69159340
That's not how it works and you know it.
Soros would be our guardian angel if that were the case.

>>69160565
>implying they didn't point a gun at his head

>>69159300
isn't that what trump supporters said hillary would do

that's just the biggest dupe in history.

>>69161698
Socialism is good for people of course.
The US is the most inequal wealth society and they need socialism to fix their shit up.
The american dream of social improvement out of hard work is dead because richfags like Trump always want more money and power for him and his contacts. These people always set bareers for newcomers who want to attain their social position; now they don't have only access over wealth, they direct access on power.
Maybe it's more honest to elect richfags directly rather than cuck representatives called «political class»; still it's fully accepting his submission and asking for more.

>>69161613
>>69161352
>>69160454
The housing bubble has many fathers. And, yes, one of them is the government, both in regulation and deregulation. But it's not the only one. Banks, hedge funds, rating agencies and loose lending are also to blame.

>>69159300
bump

>>69164890
>The US is the most inequal wealth society and they need socialism to fix their shit up.
Maybe instead of Socialism, the government should have a decent tax structure that promotes reinvestment and that criminalizes unskilled immigration which drives down wages more than anything else?
>because richfags like Trump always want more money and power for him and his contacts.
And stopped right there. Not even going to bother talking to someone with such a childish view of the world.

>>69161160
>And trump saved way more money on his win in his campaign than hillary wasted in her lost.
>implying that this will ever have an impact on his presidency

If he wants to cut down taxes he will need to encrease the debt, he will never decrease spending because it would kill every chance he has in the second election

>>69164890
>Socialism is good for people of course.
kek

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>>69159327
You know him, Bernie "Whites can't be poor" Sanders.

>>69159300
Enjoy living in a plutocracy, Amerifriends.

>>69159300
>having money is bad meme

lmao i love this one

durr if they have moneY THEY IZ EVIL. DA SWAMP IZ NOT DRAINED CUS THEY RICH

Wouldn't poor people have the biggest incentive to lie and cheat? They're the ones who need money after all. A billionaire doesn't really give a fuck because he has all he needs, for example.

>>69167496
Oh, you mean Bernie "Bread lines are a good thing" Sanders?

>>69167399
>criminalize unskilled immigration which drives down wages more than anything else

Everybody beside sjw are acknowledging or starting to realize that
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0

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>>69167548
Yes, Bernie "I will make us all equal in misery" Sanders.

>>69167555 (checked)
Maybe we should tell the left in Europe then. They say border should not exist.

>>69164890
>The US is the most inequal wealth society and they need socialism to fix their shit up.

And why is that bad?

Wealth inequality is fine because the standard is higher than pretty much everywhere else in the world. Would you rather have a country with a few people being super rich but people on average being higher, or everyone close together and poorer?

Such a retarded mentality to think "Wow he's rich we need to stop him" instead of "He's doing well, How can I join him?"

>we should put people in our cabinet purely based on how wealthy they are
wow, really makes me think

>>69167399
You think he takes power and appoints all of his billionaires friends from just for public interest ? "I appoint my girl but it's a prank there is no conflict of interest"

>implying a guy like Trump might be in favor for regulated job market and high wages
How can somebody trust such carpet seller argument.

>>69159300
And he would do the same thing in Trump`s place.

>>69167649
Because if he does kick the illegals out and does fix Obamacare, that make the state spend billions and billions less.

Are you aware about the public debt problem? Bush doubled the debt and Obama tripled it. If the next president do the same, the USA will be like Greece, but way bigger.

It's either some conflicts of interest or the 1929 crisis. You choose.

>>69159300
Bernie should probably mention 8 of said countries are fiscal paradises and help Trump's cabinets to fraud the IRS.

>>69167622
Because +50 millions people are living in poverty in the land of the free and they have no chance to get oit of it.
It's easy to say this from Canada where income redistribution is efficient; but in countries like the US or France such inequalities provokes social disorder and people feel unsafe and it lowers global happiness.

For example crime is not driven by pooverty only (this is what a lot of my leftists comrades believe) but by social perception and education. For example Cuba is safer than most of western countries and people is extremly poor. Same for corruption. You commit crime because you're feeling some injustice in your current situation and that you have the right to take something off somebody else because you were raised with less priviledges.

In the case of Trump such inequalty is just astonishing. His cabinet is richer than millions of americans, at such level you should stop earning money and try to really contribute to society. You don't contribute by taking office -how pretentious is such statement- but by first paying you taxes, what Trump gladly avoids.

>>69167761
How can illegals make the state loose money ? Because they do iilegal jobs ? Maybe I missed some issue here.

I would say they should nationalize immigrants so they will pay taxes, earn more and spend more.
Even Trump knows this, if you instantly take off millions of jobs from the market it will have difficulties to absorb such distortion.

>>69159300
>70 countries
Dayum, that's like half the UN

>>69168024
>How can illegals make the state loose money
Because illegals working for illegal incomes = shadow economy of unskilled labor = less jobs for native citizens while also putting the tax burden on them.

Hint: Many illegals put off ever applying for citizenship precisely because they'd have to start paying taxes.

>>69168024
>Because they do iilegal jobs
It's one of the reason. Would the jobs be made legally, the worker and the boss would pay taxes.
Another reason is that this money is shipped out of the country is quantities so larges it became a national problem for the US and the first source of "importation" for Mexico.
The last reason is the expanded food stamp you guys have, additioned to all the school costs and others costs.

>>69159300
I like how he picked Betsy DeVoss as secretary of education, despite her only qualification was runing a charity.

>>69168084
>Hint: Many illegals put off ever applying for citizenship precisely because they'd have to start paying taxes.

How can illegals vote for presidential ? Can't you have a decent administration ?

>>69167475
He's an old man.

He's not going for second term.

>unsuccessful and inexperienced people aren't rich
wow relly maeks u thnk...

>>69168291
You don't need an ID in many states to vote, just a place of residence.

California is particularly lax in this regard.

>>69159300
Stupid Drumpf should have put poor losers in charge of America's future instead of successful winners.

>>69168084
>remove illegals
>shadow economy no longer trinkles down to white market resulting in natives losing jobs
>the people unemplyed while shadow economy was a thing are still uneployed

>>69168212
Seems like integration was better before when you didn't had such money transfers, ICT or transportation.
Our society is now more rich and civilized but we can't accept migrants anymore.

Take our Portuguese community, they are utter shit while Spanish migrants (literally the same kind of people) that came before 70's fully integrated and even had access to high-tier jobs.

>>69168363
B-but you don't need an ID to get a residence ?

youtu.be/sanVFhodXKc

>>FUCKING LEAVES thinking you can 'work hand' to make it rich

more Canadians believe in the American Dream meme than actual Americans, but American 'education' is a thing

>>69168322
Trump will be 74 in 2020, berlusconi was prime minister until 2011, when he was 75. He'll try

>>69168024
>How can illegals make the state loose money ?

Because they use up penal, education, and healthcare, without themselves contributing to the system.

>>69168613
>Korean education

>>69168441
Employers would need to pay them more fairly and that would result in fairer competition, in addition, they would pay taxes and contribute to public services and institutions

>>69168712
>Employers would need to pay them more fairly

Employers woudl go from berely profitable to unprofitable, resulting in collpse of entire sectors. Now that all the basic stuff needs to be imported from low income countries, the high added value indistry also suffers as it now has to pay the non trivial transportation costs.

>>69159340
holy shit, this is the dumbest thing i've read all week. trumpfags would rather kill themselves than admit they've been conned.

>>69168830
That's a good point, but wouldn't better paid employees be able to promote local businesses?

>>69169061
Don't kid yourself. People buy cheap chinese shit even if they can afford buying domestic.
And it makes economic sense to do so.

>>69169283
You're wrong tbqh
No one would rather shop at Walmart than actual stores, they do it because they have to.
It's nice to have places like Walmart that give the underclass a better quality of life, but it would be better to not have such a large underclass or cash-strapped working class.

>>69171266
>but it would be better to not have such a large underclass or cash-strapped working class.
Why are you against immigration?

>>69171333
Canadian immigration generally looks different than Euro immigration. We mostly get upper class Asians.
When we think of poor people here it's Amerindians or the all white Maritimes.

Our whitest provinces are unironically our poorest provinces.

>>69171266
Can't speak for Canada, but on the Aldi parking lot in Germany you can see the occasional Porsche. And that's just end consumer stuff. Of course every company calculates very seriously whose preproducts it buys. And the price of that counts a lot. So even if end consumers buy domestic products, globalization makes that in order for them to be competitive you always end up buying some percentage foreign produce. And there's literally nothing wrong with it.

>people who are good at what they do tend to make a lot of money doing it
Well would you look at that.

when do you think trump's supporters are going to turn on him

wasn't him defending israel, so what will it take now

>>69159381
You wouldn't understand because you're poor

Why would a billionaire put his reputation on the line for a bribe worth a few million at most

Now, would a politician on $200k a year feel the same way?

>>69171437
It does happen. If someone needs to pick up a bottle of juice and a roll of toilet paper, Walmart is great.
When it comes to mist things though, people want better quality when they can afford it.

To be honest, I am really happy about Trump presidency.
He will fuck up USA and once again, Europe can rule the world

>>69173489
Ah yes and you're """rich""" and posting on 4chan? Your understanding is the same as his, how can you guarantee that they dont want to get richer like every other person in history?

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>>69159354
He reads to much Zizek

>social democracies like Sweden or most of Europe have a higher percent of people moving up their income class than purer capitalistic countries like USA
>more Americans like to pretend millionaires bought into wealth should be role models and tell you that you should just work harder and not take huge risks and have lots of luck for something other people are born with
>can't even get proper education if you are poor and not even smarter than your peers to get scholarship
>if you accidentally get run over by a drunk millionaire while still being anything less than a millionaire itself you're tens of thousands in debt from health care while the guy just gets a slap on the wrist

>>69173489
A billionaire in politics wouldn't be looking for bribes but to push regulations and deregulation that make him or his business friends wealthier.

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>>69159340
>Rich people don't want more money because they already have them.

what will it take for trumptards to realize they fucked up?

>>69159340
ah yes, lobby both only exists, and is only bad when trump isn't president

>>69159340
Pro tip
They are the political money

When will people realize that America's 'establishment' is playing both sides of the aisle?

>present Hillary as the pro-establishment bait
>give people the real candidate and watch them defend him till the end of his term

>>69173366
Trump has been defending Israel his entire campaign

>>69168890

I'm not a "Trump fag", I was voting against Clinton, an avowed globalist and election rigger. This is par for the course of what I was expecting, he's trying to run the government like a business. Which may be a shit idea, but I still got the administrative turnover I wanted regardless. Obama's admin is already getting crooked enough, I couldn't imagine 8 more years of Democuck fuckery with the epitome of cronyism herself at the helm.

>>69177432

No one expected Trump to win, Trump himself didn't expect it. That's why he rented out a shitty office building to host his election night party.

He was resisted by liberals and much of the establishment Republicans alike, and still pulled out a win. Whatever happens happens but November 8th was the biggest victory for American democracy in decades.

>>69177617
I know, I love Christian American values, and I abandoned Islam for 8 months till now because of it and some contradictions

I always tell them they were a major factor, and they deserve a far, far better president than Obombo, Shillton and the Stump

If you'd like to sponsor my green card application by marrying me, even as a sham gay marriage, inbox me for contact information

>>69177688

But I heard Sudan is nice this time of the year

>>69177617
>biggest victory for American democracy in decades.
>president lost by 3 million votes, the largest loss in history
>cut out the middle man and now directly appoints corporations and banks to power

amazing

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>>69177715
Why yes it is, with lots of democracy and religious freedom

I am so glad to be under the governance of such a an enlightened elite political force

Remember to consider removing sanctions for that accident in Darfur

>>69167496
>he made one gaffe that negates the fact that he's done more for poor whites than any other US politician

>>69177826

>All of the "popular vote" margin was in California, the most Democrat and corrupt state in our union
>Popular vote meaning anything in the context of an election predicated on winner take all states which heavily skews election day turn out and campaign strategy
>Thinking the fact that a total outsider resisted by everyone even within his own party and the mainstream media still managed to win due to the people isn't a victory in principle alone

I can understand how someone who is under state surveillance 100% of the day and is currently having a referendum ignored by his government wouldn't understand

>>69159354
Women raising children without the father present are saddled with a very difficult job

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>>69177947
>californian votes shouldn't count because they are le comies :DDDDD
really makes you ponder
>>Thinking the fact that a total outsider resisted by everyone
ah yes the inspiring story of the billionaire class with the aid of the CIA and the russians managed to pander to the lowest common denominator and get 3 million less votes, but still win in a slave-state protecting archaic '''''''''''''''''''''''''democracy '''''''''''''''''''''''''

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>>69178271
whoops wrong tweet, but you should join him on reddit nonetheless

I just hope he fixes Syria with Putin and Assad, I don't care if they're wrong we need to end this, not only because of the immigrants flooding Europe but also because of poor little innocents dying.