I used to laugh at Americans for learning simple high school

Plenty if you really want to count

>>69142676
>if you want
In your case, if you can

>>69142613
>elementary algebra
Gotta extort those students and their loans somehow

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did somebody say american education?

>>69142613
It depends on the state/district/territory.We don't really have one educational system, we have 54 educational systems, all with different standards. States like Massachusetts rank up there with Singapore and Japan when it comes to math, while Alabama and Puerto Rico are worse than Slovakia.

>>69142911
>Luis ate more

Stop fatshaming me, I didn't have breakfast

we don't all take the same classes. i took calculus in high school and i took calculus 2 and discrete mathematics in college.

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>>69142979
have you tweeted about #trenchfoot yet?

>>69142613
I can't do basic math 2bh. Math is pretty useless in every day life anyways.

>>69143034
Retard.

>>69143003
Do you know what state this is from? I've never seen anything this stupid as an official class assignment, even though I was in middle school when twitter got started.

>>69143051
At least i'm not a fucking nerd

>>69143003
Post feet lul
#TRENCH FOOT

the people who take algebra in college are the people who didnt give a fuck about math in high school

>>69142911
>>69143003
old fakes

>>69142613
The problem ismore about how the bar for college has dropped to the ground. Anyone with enough money can waste four years and a couple thousand burger coupons, shit their way through elementary algebra, and get a communications degree.

The ceiling however, has never dropped. Anyone smart enough has the chance to receive the greatest education on Earth.

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>>69142613
>>69142911
>>69143003
I fucking love these threads
I think the #trenchfoot one was proven a fake though

>>69143164
Math is for weezing asthma having runts

>>69143164
Middle school.

>>69143164
Wait, isn't algebra taught in middle school?

>>69142911
I don't get it

>>69143280
i think its taught in middle school, taught again in high school and again in college if you didnt do well in high school

>>69143336
Teacher is a dumbass.

>>69143280
I started taking Algebra in 7th grade but I was in a catholic school.

>tfw too stupid for math

I would always get high marks in language subjects, or memorising subjects, but for the life of me I just can't do anything above basic math

>>69143352
Based Catholics advancing science like always

>>69143350
But how is she wrong?

>>69143399
Same

>>69142911
probably fake

>>69143501
Some people just have stronger sides of their brain than others

>10 year old niece tells me "imagine some number from 3 to 21, uncle"
>I say ok
>then she says "multiply it by itself"
>add any simple number
>add any complex number that divides by 3
>multiply by itself
>take the last number away
>multiply by itself
>multiply by 4
>multiply by ZERO
>I look at her and she's smiling with a smile of serial killer
Lmao.

Pathetic.

>>69145371
Um, why do you hate wymen?

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america is what happens when jews run your entire "educational" system

They're just following their Talmudic teaching and deliberately dumbing the goyim down so that they perpetually stay in power and rule over their goyim subjects.


all zionist occupied countries are currently undergoing this deliberate dumbing down.

>>69143587
That was debunked with the Minnesota neuroimaging series

It all boils down to how hard you're willing to perform a specific task to get good at it, against your natural inclinations and aversion

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>>69145636
>people actually believe this

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>>69145983

its why they put fluoride in your drinking water

it's why your food is tainted with a long list of chemicals

It's why chemtrails are sprayed in the air you breathe

it's all part of the process of turning you into a literal braindead retard.


retards are very easy to rule over., because they cant think for themselves. :^)

>>69143447
The question gives you things it says are variables of the problem. You cant have an answer say "oh well the variables given to me were lies" unless you want all word problems to be debunked like that.

Every high school in the country is required to teach you Algebra II, Geometry, and Precalculus. Then you have an option senior year to take Calculus or other math classes.
I highly doubt any college here even offers Algebra classes, and if they do it's probably only offered to retards.

>>69146144
Thank you for proving OP wrong; retardation is international.

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>>69146403
>hes so stupid that he's never read the protocols of the elders of zion


nah, you americans have been in this mind toxication process the longest so far.

and it's why so many americans have fucked up noggins.

And it'll only get worse. :^)

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>>69142613
>>69142911
>>69143003
>>69143220
>these handful of examples represent a nation of 320 million

And people call us stupid and ignorant.

>>69142613
The only thing wrong with yanks is their spelling of maths

its mathS, what the fuck does math even mean??????

>>69146515
>protocols of the elders of zion
Poor bait, 2/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig5sTehZqZA

>>69146809
Mathematics?

>>69146939


OK schlomo nice sliding attempts

>>69142613
People majoring in STEM, smart students, and rich students will have taken at least Calculus in HS. I do not think most Americans have taken Calculus though

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>>69142613

>>69146982
ok you've convinced me

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>>69145983

>>69142613
We have millions of students who can't even speak the same language as their teachers. Does American education being shit really come as a surprise to you?

>>69146742
ah yes, I will remember to sample America's population properly and include at least one example for every county of every state next time I dare to make fun of your country on a Bhutanese knitting forum dedicated to making fun of other countries. Thank you for the advice, my fellow Redditor

>>69146939
he has a jewish conspiracy folder, why are you even humoring him with a response?

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>>69142613

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>Best """"""universities""""" in the world

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>>69147436
jelly as fuck

>>69143003
>women

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>>69147101
lmao

>>69142613
math is genuinely useless and bad

all it does is prevent people, who would be good honest workers, from getting a job if they're not good with numbers

>>69147436
What the fuck I saw this shit in highschool

>>69142613
But they're right
Algebra made me never pass and drop out high school even though I was ap and honors tier in other classes

>>69147101
lmfao I dont doubt it for one minute

>>69148253
You didn't deserve to pass high school then

I don't actually remember any of the math I was taught. I'm a history nerd so I did the bare minimum, which when I went to high school was algebra & geometry, to pass the class and get back to muh history books.

If someone asked me to do a basic algebra problem I probably wouldn't be able to. I just don't give a shit about math.
>tfw having to teach sports just to get paid to teach history
America has bigger problems than dumbing down math to make niggers feel good about themselves.

>>69147311
>That picture.
>I still dont get it to this day
Gears, how do they work?

>>69149481
>Ameridumbs

>>69142613
Look Americans aren't even people at the end of the day.

>>69149897
Amerifats
>>69149994
Poo in loo.

>>69146515
>ASNOM
What is that supposed to mean?

>>69151114

MASON

>>69143220
kill me

>>69148253
You suck

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>grades dependend on grade curves
>no 100% final exams but simple quizzes and projects, midterm and a final you don't even need 50% to pass the course
>sometimes mutiple choice
>...

In Germany you're fucked when you don't pass your exam on your max. third attempt plus University is kicking you out if you don't pass specific course in the right time. No grade curves, nothing.

In the US you literally pay for your degree with the minimum effort possible and still get your 3.8 - 4.0 GPA with a degree in the end. Say 'hello' to grade inflation.
And don't come with the "muh research" and "muh top 20 ivy" memes. Everyone knows that Max-Planck and Fraunhofer Institut rank way higher than Berkeley, Caltech, Stanford and so on.

Pic related. Typical US final exam isn't even 50% worth.

>>69158027
>wayne state university
>typical
kek, the students at that university would be cleaning toilets if they were born in germany

americans are lucky as fuck to have such amazing opportunities, im jealous tbqh

also, no. The top 25 or so US universities are better than anything in germany.

>>69158217
>also, no. The top 25 or so US universities are better than anything in germany.

Yes, no.
Plus, research is not the same as teaching and course design. Max-Planck and Fraunhofer institut is ranking higher than Cambridge, both of them and are on the same term as MIT. Look up your facts. It's just that research is in particular not integrated directly into the University thus it's excluded from the ranking. But whatever. You're from Spain. Most of you guys are needing 5+ attempts for specific exam in STEM and are studying until your ending 20's and leaving your own country as soon the oppurtinity arises. You don't know shit. :^)

>>69158336
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats


http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2015

you german cunts have huge egos but in reality the US and UK are better in every metric

every german dreams academic dreams or working or studying in US. the rest want to come to spain

I took elementary functions in 10th grade and calculus AB in 11th. I think my school was advanced relative to the country though.

>>69158814
Germany BTFO

>>69158814
>told spaintaird uni ranking isn't a proper measurement of actual education
>brings out world ranking links

>every german dreams academic dreams or working or studying in US. the rest want to come to spain

source? personal experience?

Here, just quick reference to educate yourself
>http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind12/pdf/c02.pdf
>https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/the-titans-institutional-rankings-by-output-and-citations/408424.article
>https://www.quora.com/Why-are-German-universities-ranked-relatively-low-on-almost-all-college-ranking-lists-but-German-engineers-design-and-produce-the-best-products-in-the-world

Not gonna discuss with people with no actual knowledge. :^)
You would suck Germans dick to live here

>>69142613
So you made your deep conclusion based on some screenshot? Finnish education. You just made a fool of yourself.

>>69143220
well pretty much of love of them are fake
but hey it doesn;t matter since "you ficking love" these threads
and i even know why you guys love them so much
but i won't tell or you might get offended since you are fragile

>>69159414
>You would suck Germans dick to live here
More like Germans would suck his dick

There's a reason why more Germans come to the US for education than the other way around despite 'free' uni.

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>>69159625
Not just Germans, tons of international students here.

>>69159635
kek, yes, my point exactly. we need more """screenshots"""" as evidence. collect them!

>>69158027
>you don't even need 50% to pass the course
Wut? You need at least 80% or higher to pass the vast majority of courses in the US, at least if you want to go into STEM.
>In the US you literally pay for your degree with the minimum effort possible and still get your 3.8 - 4.0 GPA with a degree in the end.

Except that rarely happens, the people who are getting 3.8+ GPA's are the ones who study extremely hard for the course if they're taking a half-decent degree. Grades are deflated if anything, curves are brutal ways of selectively choosing the very best to pass the course.

>>69159625
Yeah. The onl reasons to go to the US is just for reserach due funding. Germany is not top-tier in terms of funding and getting fundings for actual research is rather difficult and underpaid. Germany isn't paying good enough for an academical career in research.
The US is better in this term - they have way more money available thanks to private investing and gov. support and you actually get paid humanly. But THAT'S the ONLY reason.

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>>69143220

>>69159705
>The onl reasons to go to the US is just for reserach due funding.
And due to scholorships, employment opportunities, quality of professors, ability to talk to leading firms and industries etc.

Germany does well for what it's worth on the lowbar end, but compared to top US schools it doesn't really compare like you said simply due to the lackluster funding and resources at your disposal.

>>69142613
I have never understood why algebra as a concept couldn't be explained to even a 5 year old.

>>69159685
Don't argue with a "screenshot" guy. He collects screenshots as evidence. That's his only source of information. Apparently critical thinking is not taught in Germany lmao

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>>69159685
>Except that rarely happens, the people who are getting 3.8+ GPA's are the ones who study extremely hard for the course if they're taking a half-decent degree. Grades are deflated if anything, curves are brutal ways of selectively choosing the very best to pass the course.

How do you explain grade inflation then?

>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/12/20/why-grade-inflation-even-at-harvard-is-a-big-problem/
>http://www.businessinsider.com/science-majors-and-grade-inflation-2013-7?IR=T

Let me guess: ' the ones who study extremely hard for the course' right? Everyone.

Pic related. I would be bitter about getting trash'd about my education as well americanpleb.

>>69142613
I wont judge the burgers I'm horrible at math. I fucking hate it.

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>>69159758
You plebble. I even included a few links here
>>69159414

>That's his only source of information
>Apparently critical thinking is not taught in Germany lmao

Um yeah. Look above and think again.

>"Grade inflation is commonly thought of as a moral or ethical failing; it is in reality an education failing."
>"Grade inflation is harmful because it cheats students of the opportunity to understand what they do and don’t do well."
>" It deprives them of experiencing failure and learning how to recover. Grade inflation tells students they do everything very well—a continuation of the applause and approbation most have experienced all of their lives."

I'm out.

>>69159761
>How do you explain grade inflation
There's no evidence for its existance, in fact college grades as a whole have declined. 40% of US college students will be kicked out of their school/major at some point.
http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2002/2002168.PDF

>Let me guess: ' the ones who study extremely hard for the course' right? Everyone.

Not at all, tests in STEM fields are based on your knowledge of the material and ability to apply them.

>Pic related. I would be bitter about getting trash'd about my education as well americanpleb.

M8, when foreign, including European, doctors come to practice in the US, its our standards that are constantly being called out for being ridiculously high, to the point that many foreign professionals have lobbied to laxen restrictions here. The ceiling for education in the US is higher than in any other country.

My friend spent his third year of highschool in the US.
His Physics teacher taught the classe a really roundabout method for converting MPH to KMPH and vice-versa.

My friend would just divide/multiply by 1,6 and do that shit in 3 seconds, the teacher couldn't believe it and asked how the fuck he did it those multiplications so fast.

>>69148014
Highschool? I was 12 (6th grade) when we were taught equations with variables, and 10 when I learned this whole parenthesis order thing.

>>69159853
Read the OP. You are posting in a fucking retarded bait thread with some ridiculous claims made in the OP based on a """screenshot""".
But that turned you on and got you going. So that tells me something about you.

>>69159947
Let me repeat this once again

RESEARCH. IS. NOT. ACTUAL. EDUCATION.

Espcially when 50%+ of your research is published by foreigners. Don't try to blur research with actual education from your country.


Graduate students travel to the US to get paid more. Foreign students earned 57% of all engineering doctorates, 54% of all computer science degrees, and 51% of physics doctoral degrees.

>How do you explain grade inflation
>There's no evidence for its existance
Fuck you too. There are even valid statistics I linked and more in-depth if you google.

RESEARCH IS NOT EDUCATION
GETTING A DEGREE WITH GRADE INFLATION IS NOT THE SAME AS RESEARCH

>>69159973
>the teacher couldn't believe it
Yeah, we believe you. So why don't you guys divide/multiply correctly so your space rockets don't explode?

>>69160046
>Fuck you too. There are even valid statistics I linked and more in-depth if you google.
As did I, and the study found that grade inflation has nothing to do with a students aptitude or their knowledge of the material. If you bothered to read it you'd understand that, but no, keep being haughty about your oh so 'superior' education that no one seems to care about enough to flock to Germany in droves for.

>Espcially when 50%+ of your research is published by foreigner
Out of an absolutely massive research pool? Even excluding foreigners the US would still pump out massive amounts of scientific papers.
>>69160046
>Graduate students travel to the US to get paid more. Foreign students earned 57% of all engineering doctorates, 54% of all computer science degrees, and 51% of physics doctoral degrees.

And the US has an absolutely massive amount of students, like I said. Excluding foreigners we'd still easily be in the top.

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>>69160065
We don't have enough jew bankers to take loans from and hire foreign rocket scientists to do the job.

>>69160139
>And the US has an absolutely massive amount of students, like I said. Excluding foreigners we'd still easily be in the top.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/the-titans-institutional-rankings-by-output-and-citations/408424.article

>on top
>Chinese Academy of Sciences
>Russian Academy of Sciences

In terms of relation of students per capita Germany is right after Harvard. Alright.

>>69160159
well we need foreign scientists because we are dumb and can't divide/multiply by 1.6
but you CAN. so why do you need foreign scientists?? do it yourselves and you won't need any jew money!!!

>>69160196
You just proved my point...

>>69160221
Not at all

>>69160217
Your error was thinking I was somehow speaking well of my country's education, when I'm just pointing out how even our shitty system teaches stuff that looks otherworldly to Americlappers.

>>69145662
>It all boils down to how hard you're willing to perform a specific task to get good at it, against your natural inclinations and aversion
That is pretty much how everything works. You put your mind set to grinding away at difficult problems for long enough you will be able to solve them. It took me many years of fucking up in school to realize this.

>>69160234
Yes you did. 9 out of those 20 universities are American.

Dude, no ones saying German education sucks, its better in many ways, but US education also has its major perks. Why can't you accept this?

>>69160287
He's autistic anon. There's no middle ground.

>>69158027
>Max-Planck and Fraunhofer Institut rank way higher than Berkeley, Caltech, Stanford
Nobody gives a fuck about German universities Hans. Nobody can name anyone that went on to do anything that matters from those schools. The people who graduated from Stanford built Silicon Valley and the internet. Nobody cares what fuckface from that graduated fro m Fraunwhoeverthefuck is working on at Siemens or his test scores in college.

>>69160280
that's right, i get your point. our system is shittier than yours because we don;t know how to divide by 1.6 according to "your friend". that's why jews build our rockets. they learned the division well in israel.

>>69160046
I would rather have someone who knows a certain subject like the back of their hand and works with it every day to teach me as opposed to someone given a curriculum and a book and told "go teach"

>>69142824
To some degree you're right. Many college will test people to see what they know, and in most cases even if you passed calculus at HS you have no way of placing further than it for college.

Then again I'm one of the retards who failed college algebra several times.
Can get As in Physics and Programming easy, but not math courses.
I could just be lazy or something idk.

>>69160595
You can test out of Calc I if you took in HS.
So you can start with Calc II.
I only did pre-calc in HS so I had to take Calc 1,2,3 in college then linear algebra and DE. That's a requirement for CS major and math minor.

>>69160666
Not in either the community college or the university I've been to here in Iowa you can't.
Also friends at another state University couldn't either.

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>>69160666
>I only did pre-calc in HS so I had to take Calc 1,2,3 in college then linear algebra and DE. That's a requirement for CS major and math minor.
Kek


Average German CS curriculum.
How do you even compete americlap

>>69160686
This is my school:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Purdue/comments/336rur/advice_on_taking_calculus_1_or_2_as_an_incoming/

>>69160723
Well we also have the discrete stuff /numeric algebra and statistics. One other thing we don't have is "analysis" which I am assuming is the real analysis? BTW wtf do you need real analysis in CS? Because muh education is free so it better be hard?

>>69160723
Aside from more math courses it's pretty much the same.
Tons of formal logic and algorithmic analysis.
Besides, it's not like calculus will be used by the 99% of CS graduates in their work.

>>69160849
>>69160856
>damage control

Our CS WITHOUT math minor is containing more math than US trash education with Cs AND math minor

Of course it's real analysis with a bit functional analysis. But most real analysis is almost covered in the 12 grade in our 'high school equivalent'

>wtf do you need real analysis in CS?

Please kys. No wonder nobody is taking CS majors seriously.

>>69160856
Well that's why they use US made software around the world because their CS cucks are too busy studying irrelevant shit so they don't know how to actually write good software lmao.

>>69160925
>implying CS is for people into code monkeys

You don't even know what CS is about

>>69160925
>implying CS is for codemonkey worth

SHIGGYDIGGY

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>>69160666
NICE TRIPS

>>69160723
>Linear Algebra
I took that for my AP course in High school. It's nothing special

I thought German curricula was supposed to be on another level?

>>69142739
REKT

USA has been to the moon, going to Mars, by far leads the world in everything to do with computers and technology, number one in science and innovation.

But there will always be some German behind his american made computer posting in English about how great his little country is. I think he's still sad that America whooped his ass in both world wars

>>69160912
>functional analysis
>CS
because you don't need the fucking functional analysis in CS

>>69160954
of course i don't know, please tell me. you can even go get a fucking Phd in CS and be full of hot air about muh theory muh functional analysis. and it is funny that i've seen idiots like you making the same claims on the us forums so it is not really about your country vs my country it is just your personal opinion of what CS is.

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>>69143399
>>69143501
>>69143587
>>69160286
What the fuck

>>69160912
Rude, and hostile tone friend.
To clarify I was saying that logics and algorithmic analysis was important, but calculus only serves to reinforce those skills. You will not be doing anything with derivatives in your whole life most likely.

I think I understand the difference now. US CS is more hands on, and focuses on the hard skills. While German focuses on the theoretical applications.
Just looking at the courses you posted. I can already tell you my department has many more actual programming classes than yours does.
It's almost as if German CS is stuck halfway between modern times and the early 2000s.

>>69149481
The gears in that configuration would not turn properly

>>69160912
>most real analysis is almost covered in the 12 grade in our 'high school equivalent'
wat? sure your kids start straight with papa rudin/baby rudin, right? so what do you study in HS real analysis? Banach algebras? Lebesgue integrals? measure theory? You little einsteins kek

>>69160990
We already did. But there's a lot LA.

>>69161102
Tbh I think I don't need fucking 80% of this shit. But that's education. You bite yourself through the shit and EVENTUALLY you need this shit at some point. Lebesgues integrals are far more often applied for example than you would think.

>>69161113
I'm not your friend, pal.
>You will not be doing anything with derivatives in your whole life most likely.
Eventually.
> US CS is more hands on, and focuses on the hard skills.
We have for that a trade called 'Fachinformatiker für Anwendungsentwicklung' what's basically the trade for becoming a programmer. University CS is on a whole new level.
>I can already tell you my department has many more actual programming classes than yours does.
Germany CS is not about programming. Some get into this after they get their degree, yes. But if you want to become a programmer you either go self-learned with a portfolio or most likely finish the above mentioned trade. An UNIVERSITY education is not meant for handson skills. You learn those on your own.
Because that's what German education is about. Learning alot of shit you likely never ever will be using at all but have to pass them nevertheless. It's not about the material but furthermore the process of learning to learn. Because if you proved that you can get your degree here at all you proved with that you can self-learn efficiently at least in anything else.

>>69161107
What? Not all of us are math nerds

>>69161238
self-taught*

You get the idea hopefully

>>69161232
Basically Baby rudin tier up to few chapters desu senpai

>>69161238
>Germany CS is not about programming
This is what I meant when I said it seems like it's stuck in the past. Why can't you have both sides of it in a healthy dose to try and create someone who is heavily in demand with already learned practical skills?
>I'm not your friend, pal.
I'm going to make you my pal, buddy.

>>69161238
>University CS is on a whole new level.
Then how come the US is way ahead of you in terms of computer programming and software development? If your CS is so great why can't I name a single positive impact Germans have had on the computer world?

>>69161113
>You will not be doing anything with derivatives
Lol, the two of you are taking it to the extremes. he is telling me he needs lebesgue integration in CS and you are stating you don;t need derivatives. Sure you may need differentiation and integration for stuff like finance (options/futures for example), or game programming etc. Linear algebra is a must for 3D graphics etc. So that's what they teach in CS. Not the fucking lebesgue integrals. If you land a job where you need them you will get up to speed. Just read up on some measure theory etc. But I doubt you will ever need it

>>69161293
>I'm going to make you my pal, buddy.
Let's see about this champ. :^)

>This is what I meant when I said it seems like it's stuck in the past. Why can't you have both sides of it in a healthy dose to try and create someone who is heavily in demand with already learned practical skills?

There is. We have three way of education
(1) Trade - Basically industry skills, pure programming is one of them f.e.
(2) University of Applied Science - Basically more handson with practical skills AND a bit less theory. (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fachhochschule)
(3) University - Mostly pure theory

But a lot of them are working in the same company-manner after they get their diploma/degree. Just a small difference in pay.
But University degrees are the only way to get into research or into high management executive positions here. Atleast they have the view of 'prestige' among society

>>69161319
>SAP
>Engima
>BTX (Eric Danke)
>...and so on

Eventually a lot of telecommunications coming from here as well

>>69161268
>Baby rudin tier
it is like 13-17 yo kids? wow that's pretty fucking impressive if it is true, you little bourbaki.
are you talking about some select schools or you are telling me the average german kid can into rudin?

Woah you're still going about it?

Get a life, nerds. Go learn some math.

>>69161357
Differentiation and integration are most of the time needed in designing a physics engine, and you will likely only need to understand the concept of it.
I suppose you are right to some degree though. I hadn't considered financial analysis.
>>69161365
I suppose that explains it.
It would also explain why many Euro professors here tend to be on the theoretical side of things. My discrete structures professor didn't understand lick about even python.

US Universities in my experience tend to take the #2 route with things. I personally think it makes us more competitive on the global stage.

I'm in the US, and next year when I start college I'll be beginning with linear algebra and ODEs. Then analysis. Of course, I'll be repeating linear and ODE's, which I as a high school senior am in the process of learning.
And they call americans stupid. I'm a typical student at our high school.

>>69161473
<18 yo OUT

>>69161493
I'm 18 you retard.

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>>69161506
I can tell you're lying

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As somebody who went to school with international students...they are not in a position to judge educational standards

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>>69142925
>worse than Slovakia
STOP BULLYING MY LITTLE BROTHER AMERICA

>>69161521
not him, but who cares man.

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>>69161522
>outsources and entire nation controlled by asians

BTFO leaf

>>69161538
this is a thread about us not being able to count to ten in college. and you are talking about bullying others?

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>>69161521
i suppose you wouldnt care anyway, since im a fucking american who cant drink even though im legally adult
you're lucky, brat

>>69158336
>>69159414
>research output is good metric hurr
Enjoy your China-tier substandard education while your professors focus on shitting out papers instead of teaching

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>have a mathematics/chemical engineering dual major
>work as a forklift driver

Since when did math matter to anybody?

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>>69161581
Brovakia doesn't deserve this, they've done nothing wrong.

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>>69161600
>metric
Please don't use this word here, as it might alienate a few American colleagues.

>>69142911
>mfw math grad
>don't understand simple math like this or the reasoning behind it
>no problem with category theory and the likes
Anyone else? Are we maths grads just brainfucked?

>>69161472
>Differentiation and integration are most of the time needed in designing a physics engine
Yes, that's one example. Another example is navigation. Quadcopters are quite popular these days. Well, the flight control systems can get quite complicated when you need to fuse various sensors to get attitude and altitude estimates and apply various filters etc I do it for fun and it is a lot of math! For example you have an acceleration sensor so you can integrate the readings to get the velocity or integrate again to get the distance (not terribly accurate but just an example)

>>69161686
>category theory and the likes
oh no, isn't it a hipster tier fad with a bunch of arrows?

>>69161686
Feel you.
NP with proofs, measure theory, advanced algebra, analysis I-III, ... but struggle with 10. grade trigonometry

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Gun + weed = chicken

>>69160925
CS is a subset of Mathematics with various engineering disciplines pilled on top you absolute retard, that's why it's "science" because you do science, not add to the growing pool of bloated, non-standardised, convoluted, gimmicky software. Software Engineering (SE) is for programming professionally, not CS. Almost every STEM field contains some programming.

>>69142613
I just finished calculus 2 this passed semester. I thought it was harder than calc 1, but still easier than precal.
Precal is literally the hardest math class I've ever taken.

>>69164061
The hardest parts of Calc isn't the calculus. It's the Algebra.

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>>69142739

>>69164089
Please tell me I won't use sequences and series in my future math classes, because that shit is hard as fuck.

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>>69143003
this may be fake but in grade ten english we had to make a pretend facebook account for a character in romeo and juliet. think the website was called fakebook or something. were marked on it too irc

>>69142613
We're a massive nation and not all of us can be uhhh mathmeticians. We need folk who aren't smart. They fill up the factories, they fight in the army, and they really are the backbone of this fucking place. Say what you want about our education, but your best minds still fucking come here for opportunities. Not the shithole you live in.

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>>69142613
>Is there any nation with worse education than America?

Sweden

In fact, by 2050 we're still projected to be top 10 in HDI while Sweden is projected to fall to third world country status. No joke.

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>>69161660
Not sure why this is a meme, Americans are taught both. Imperial is typically in math classes early on as elementary students learn addition/multiplication/etc. and need context for their word problems, ex. 2 bananas 6 inches long = 1 foot.

The metric system is taught slightly later, typically coupled with science courses.

Why is it so hard to comprehend the plausibility two simultaneous systems? You already speak two languages, Portuguese and English, and knowing two different base-number systems is pathetically easy compared to that.

>>69142613
>will never use algebra
how pathetic.

>>69166404
It's more depressing to me that all of can give two shits about learning a language or god forbid another culture. Put on a foreign film and see how quickly everyone gets bored. Algebra really is a drop in the bucket compared to that.

>>69161744
Sargon please. Go to sleep you cutie.

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>>69147762
>touhou
Have you learned nothing?
Must I BEAT some sense into you?

We learn the same shit over and over at each level, I don't know why or what else to say.

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>>69142613
Completely fake. I started algebra in 9th grade and we already used aspects of it in middle school

>>69164061
>calc 2 easier than precalc
A lot of students struggle with fundamental algebra/precalc skills when doing calculus. That's because calculus is easier than it sounds: once set up is done, it is all algebra, and it is mostly fraction manipulation, negative powers, factoring, reciprocals, etc etc that students are struggling with. It is for a reason that they coined this common mistake a freshman's dream: (a+b)^2 = a^2 + b^2

>>69164011
>CS is a subset of Mathematics
kek no, it is not
>australian flag
>ah australia, it is ok then

>>69158027
>Everyone knows that Max-Planck and Fraunhofer Institut rank way higher than Berkeley, Caltech, Stanford and so on.
We might be both plagued with that samr plight breh. Ecole polytéchnique in France weeds through its applicants at such a meticulous extent that to be greeted in fulfilling your education in the school, you have to almost be a ceritified genius, and to my knowledge, there hasn't ever been a student at that school whose IQ didn't exceed 180 at the very least. Though with it being denied the coverage owed to prestigious US universites, a graduate of Polytechnique will never be as regarded as highly as any Ivy League graduate might be revered.
Meanwhile, with American universites, all that's ever required of you is to be slightly smarter than average, and you're golden.
Unfair :c

>>69158217
This guy gets it.

>>69149342
Same here.

It's kind of a shame, since my time studying philosophy has really opened my eyes to how wonderful math is. So these days I really wish I had paid more attention in math class.

>>69176718
>>69158027
>Everyone knows that Max-Planck and Fraunhofer Institut rank way higher than Berkeley
This insane German compares max-planck with berkley lol. Why don;t you compare with MIT or Harvard.

here are the ratings (maintained by the max planck society) http://www.excellencemapping.net/

usa blows everyone out of the water.
germany is not even close.

(i get it, because jews?)

>hard to be accepted by Ecole polytéchnique
i believe you but try MIT kek. it is hardly easier, mate, considering the number of applicants from around the world. check the acceptance rates.

>>69177290
>So these days I really wish I had paid more attention in math class.

Protip: What you thought IS/WAS math is in fact just calculating. Real math is not solving integrals but furthermore the art of proofs and formalisation

If you ever completed a 101 Logic course in your philosophy studies you certainly used logic. Look into the book 'How to prove it' or something to get started

>>69177442
>considering the number of applicants from around the world.
Yup, and they're what has me conceding that US univerisities do deserve their prestige, since they're the ones to best advertize themselves internationally and get their appeal to carry over to the remainder of the world.
However, I won't bury the idea that Ecole Polytechnique caters to smarter applicants on average than MIT might, where being of upper 10% strain of the population might award you a scholarship there.
For example, 19,200 HSers applied for MIT last year, and 1500 were accepted, whilst Ecole Polytechnique chooses its students following two intensive years for its applicants in "prepatory classes", and only 2000 or so people even feel capable of engaging in the contest for Polytechnique.
>So in 2014, in the Physics Chemistry track ("PC"), 1362 took the exam, and the last person admitted was 154th = 11% acceptance rate.

Again, no denying that MIT, Berkeley and Harvard are some of the best schools of the world, but what I'm insinuating is that being there does not certify you as being a genius, while being in Polytechnique usually does.

You good brahs tho.

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>>69177726
And this what happens thanks to Polytechnique:
>refer yourself to the picture that is related

>>69142613
desu they don't teach calculus in high school here either

>>69142613
I don't even know what calculus is.

>>69177726
OK, no disagreement here. I am not arguing with you. I am just trying to understand what you guys mean by saying we are lucky. That we don't have Ecole Polytechnique?

>>69178356
Speak for yourself.

>>69142613
Absolutely fuck off.
I feel like such a piece of shit for only being in precalculus in freshman year of uni, and I have a math related major.
I guess I agree with you but stop making me feel bad.

>>69178455
Okay, I was trying to be edgy, sorry

>>69142613
No the way they do math credits in hs you don't have to reach Calculus. I got up to intro calc my senior year, I didn't want to do ap calc. But most other people were still in algebra.

I took Calc I and II in high school, had them transferred, and never needed to take another math course again. Lmfao

I still feel retarded. Wish I took Calc III and Linear Algebra. America is RETARDED for not teaching linear algebra in high school.

>>69178516
Dual enrollment calc nigger. Calc I and II got transferred because they were DE courses.

>>69178482
Why didn't you buff up in high school? Econ major here. I took Algebra, Geometry, Trig, Precalc, Calc I and II in high school and I never had to take another course again in college.

>>69159635
What can you do with a degree like that?

Like, you come out of school, what is your expertise??

>>69178386
Nah, but more that your universities relish more fame internationally than European schools might, while not being substantially harder to be accepted into.
Bit of a bitchy complaint really.

>>69179400
Human Resource worker. That's about it.

>>69178553
No, you are retarded. Linear algebra is taught in HS as an AP class. Not all HS are the same. Also "linear algebra" is a very loose term. At the HS level it is mostly matrix manipulation, linear equations, cramer's etc. The next level would be eigenvectors etc up to vector spaces, dual vs etc but that sort of overlaps with other disciplines such as function analysis.

>>69179476
ah i see what you are saying, basically if you want more recognition with less effort, that could be, i dunno. but trust me, a lot of post docs here bitch and moan about working like a dog for a very modest salary and a lot of them leave academia to get an industry job. a career in science is hard everywhere i guess.

>>69180061
Linear Algebra should be a required course even before Calculus. Hell, even taking it before trig severely limits what you can do.

>muh ap courses that are not available half the time

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>study calculus in my NEET time
>study linear algebra
>forget calculus
>study discrete math
>forget linear algebra
>study something else
>forget discrete math

>>69180148
linear algebra has nothing to do with calculus so the order doesn't matter. the basics of linear algebra are taught as early as 6th or 7th grade when you do word problems that essentially asking you to write it down as a system of 2 linear equations in 2 variables. they just don;t tell you it is linear algebra so you don't get scared

>>69180460
Linear algebra is fundamental in Calc III nigger. Even if just for the matrix arithmetic.

>>69180516
you need to know how to do matrix manipulations way before calc iii, nigger. that's why i said they they teach you that early on in HS and earlier. but it is not a fully blown linear algebra though and there is no need to bitch that "they should teach LA before calc" since they give you all you need to way before calc.

>>69154628
Not a fan of the doge meme? ;_;

>>69181280
I think it's nice that the teacher wants to build a relationship with the students, but she's going about it a really wrong way...

>>69164604
Because the imperial system is tard system

Check mate atheist

>>69160508
Actually the American military built the internet, and Sir Tim-Berners Lee built the WWW.

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>>69184143
Most of the Web made after Tim-Berners Lee was a mistake.

>>69184450
if your shit is not readable in emacs/links, it's bad

>>69160508
>Nobody gives a fuck about German universities Hans. Nobody can name anyone that went on to do anything that matters from those schools. The people who graduated from Stanford built Silicon Valley and the internet. Nobody cares what fuckface from that graduated fro m Fraunwhoeverthefuck is working on at Siemens or his test scores in college.
This.
I've been considering killing myself because I'll likely never be able to get anywhere.

>>69148014
this is junior HS stuff

Don't americans have linear algebra and shit in HS though?

>>69185545
Nah
They are retarded
With luck they "geniuses" have AP classes what's basically advanced but even then it's baby tier

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>>69143399
same
FeelsBadMan

>>69143399
Same.

I think math is too abstract for me.

>>69185545
My high school had ~20 students taking Linear Algebra.

>>69185640
I see you are all over this thread you edgy kraut.
I bet I forgot more than you know. You have as many retards as americans, the only difference is they all go to the same HS whereas retards like you go to hauptschule or whatever you call it, and slightly less retarded kids go to gymnasium. But the average german is as retarded as the average poster on /int/. You better show me your science results. You suck compared to the US and Asia. You can't even land on the fucking Mars.

>>69160723
That doesn't look too hard for CS.

>>69188050
>I bet I forgot more than you know.
Just speaks for your education culture. Plug and chug the fastest way possible and forget.
How about LEARNING something atleast in a proper way?

Damn gook.

>>69188284
Then show me something what you would consider 'hard' for a CS program since you already have some sort of comparisons.

>>69188304
That's the optimal way.

I heard of general practicioners who think bromine is an alkali metal, but they are still good at the thing they actually do.

>>69142911
>>69161686
Question: "How is that possible"
Answer: "It is not"

>>69188480
Mine looked mostly the same, I droped out and went for another STEM degree more in line with my talents and interests but plagued by lower wages, but plenty of guys finished and they were no geniuses.

>>69188748
>czech education degree mills

>>69188820
By plenty I mean something between 25 to 35 percent.