What do you think of Donald Trump? Be honest.

I think he is a master troll and find the butthurt he causes to be hilarious.

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monkey with a gun

he's not the Antichrist like all the libtards say though. he'll just shoot some people by accident like George Jr.

literally the only American alive who is capable of banter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9xokE0fRok

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>>69119162
I like him.

>>69119162
Not a fan.

Something about a wall

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>>69119162
He's the opposite of everything wrong with the US, but also embodies alot of things that are equaly bad in the States

He's going to fuck something up massively, I guarantee it. He was even like "I didn't know being President was so hard"

https://youtu.be/UJK3RizX1OM

Self centered asshat.

>>69119162
got lucky he was running against Hillary.

>>69119861
I find this photo hilarious for the cunts Unironically think Russian can annex a turkey with an atleast somewhat above average military like turkey.

He makes me think that America is a place where a guy who doesn't pay his taxes despite being a billionaire, who likely has the most dislikeable personality in the entire country, and who blatantly lies to the faces of his own supporters, is the kind of person who ought to be celebrated and put on a pedestal

https://youtu.be/ZbM6WbUw7Bs

Looks like an asshole

>>69119913
how would've 4chan reacted if Bernie was the one Gore'd though?

>>69119162
Better than Hillary. That was about it. He wouldn't have won if it was Sanders or anyone other than Hillary

I don't

I'm naturally distrusting of any type of salesman, and Donald Trump is an amazing salesman, so I find him unbelievably slimy.

I still can't understand how Americans could vote for this obvious conman, he's comically dishonest.

>>69119162
Typical impuslive american that will either

a) do nothing
b) fuck up everything

>>69119162
The perfect man to represent the American people.

>>69119951
The best video

>>69119162
The living embodiment of american values more so than what americans tell themselves when they point to the starving artist, the small town preacher, the generational farmer or the blue collar steel mill worker.

>>69120195
>Donald Trump is an amazing salesman

yes, what a legendary salesman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyONt_ZH_aw

>>69119162
A populist liar, bait and switch politician any unbiased centrist could have pointed out to you. He was only chosen because the DNC had the worst candidate imaginable. I don't like Bernie that much, but he would have most likely won had he got into the main election in my opinion.

Like >>69120382 said
Trump embodies the "American Dream" that's why Americans voted for him.

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>>69120427
>tfw you will never eat a trump steak, the worlds greatest steaks, courtesy of the sharper image

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>>69119951
TORAMPO-SAMA

SUGOI SUGOI

is a nationalist, which is good, but he represents the right-wing side of nationalism, which is a meme

voted for johnson in the election because even though libertarianism is a meme "globalism isn't a bad thing", "bankers and middlemen are fantastic and should have more power", and "your quality of life aren't important stop heating your home so the earth can be half a degree cooler at the end of the century" were all ideas I disagreed with more than "people should generally be able to do what they want"

>>69119162
I mean, I think he is a loudmouth talking out of his ass, but the fucking chimpout by retards including my own family against him has made me bitter and cynical. I find myself having to defend him more often than criticize him even though I consider myself on the left.

>>69119162
He's a celebrity, he knows how to entertain and attract people but he don't know shit about politics. Notice how his behaviours and decisions changed drastically after he was elected?

>>69120427
what the fuck

>>69121418
Best part about this is that Sharper Image is a boutique electronic store.

>>69119162
An idiot that will destroy my country no matter what. Either actively, by starting a trade war we can't win, or passively, by causing uncertainty about my country and making every single company that is based here to flee in panic, like they did in the 90's with the Mexican peso crisis. Or both at the same time. I'm already bracing myself for the inevitable recession (yet again). The poor folks in the "Pacific Alliance" are going to get hit hard, though, it is going to be a "Tequila Effect" on steroids, and they will not see it coming.

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>>69119162
He's a whore who desperately wants to deepthroat Putin.

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>>69121495

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>>69121495
How do Mexicans feel about pic related in the wake of trump?

>>69121418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdY31mDsBmU

Nice banters, Charisma and funny ideas : would vote for him

But he's Putin's dog...

>>69119162
>>>/Pol/

>>69119162
He's too good for us. The hero we need but not the one we deserve.

>>69121564
If you think that a recession and unemployment in Mexico (currently our unemployment rate is lower than yours) is going to be good to stop the illegal immigration, that currently is at its lowest levels since the 70s with a reverse net migration (i.e. more Mexicans are coming back than going in, and it has been like that for years) you are in for an ugly surprise.

>>69121648
He has always been an idiot, that has not changed. My only fear is that he turns out to be weak as well.

>>69119162
I like him
Fuck china

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>>69121495
>An idiot that will destroy my country no matter what
I know. It's great.

>>69122392
That's bad news for you m8.
Try and guess why

>>69122392
And you're coming with us

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>>69122392
See >>69122340
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_peso_crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_flight


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/20/us/more-mexican-immigrants-leaving-us-than-entering-report-finds.html?_r=0
>and pic

Lets see if those trends continue when we enter a recession.

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>>69119162
Probably the next george bush. He will get manipulated and put retarded people in charge. Probably will be a one term president since it was pretty common both shillary and trump where hated by the majority of voters.

>>69122461
>wapo
opinion discarded

>>69119162
He pisses off leftists more than anybody I've ever seen so I like him a lot for that reason alone.

>>69122501
>source: United States border patrol

Have more liberals news
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/20/more-mexicans-leaving-us-than-entering-study-says.html

>>69122529
>teeheeeheee guise look at me im not a leftist aren't I so cool!! xD

>>69122540
Case and point.

moron memed into the presidency by yank troglodytes

He is exactly the punishment leftists deserve for being such retarded faggots.

I don't agree with everything he says but I will support 100% because of how much he triggers globalists and leftist retards

>>69122531
>implying they aren't going back because their economy is benefiting from globalism and ripping up nafta won't encourage more illegal immigration

>>69119162
glad he won Vs. the lady but we don't know how he will be until he's in office for a while

>>69122493
>Wall is in the middle of being built in 2020
>'Folks, you gotta vote for me or the wall won't be made!'

Infinitely better than shillary

Was hopefully when he was elected, but his appointments have disappointed me and made me lose hope. The I'm smart so I don't need intelligence briefings thing too

>>69122669
How can I not see it, cheap quasi-slave labor are the ones who benefit the most in globalism. Brilliant.
NAFTA caused this to happen. Try reading a book before you post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation

The implementation of NAFTA aggravated Mexicans a lot. Just one tiny example: the flooding of subsidized corn from the US into Mexican markets reduced the price of corn by 70%. This had the effect of putting of livelihoods of some 15 million Mexicans who depend on the crop for income into jeopardy. The price of the basic goods such as the tortilla increased drastically (738%). Liberalization of the food market under NAFTA allowed private monopolies such as Maseca, Minsa, and Cargill to hoard food supplies and jack up the price

Despite growth in productivity, real wages in Mexico are lower than what they were when NAFTA took effect. Wages in Mexico are diverging from and not converging with US wages

>>69119162
He seems like the human embodiment of shitposting

>>69122834
sounds like trump killing nafta will make both america and mexico great again

>>69120083
Probably lol.

At this point pol is probably bringing in more traffic than every other board combined. I know that a couple of weeks back that it had 60% more posts per second than b. And thats after the election.

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>>69122834
>tfw there is no way of joining the EZLN
I mostly just wanted to give aid s to indigenas

>>69122910
Except for the part that he will start a trade war instead, and cause capital flight in the process. Capital flight that will happen no matter what if he continues with his dumb rethoric, even if he doesn't follow through his promises, since the market jumps ship whenever there is the slightless amount of uncertainty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_peso_crisis

And like I said, a recession is not going to be good if you want to stop illegal immigration. Illegal immigration that hasn't even been a problem in the last years, but will be if our economy goes to complete shit.

>>69122989
I think that for trumps atrong man tactics to work well he needs to fuck some targets up.

Wether that be glassing isis going toe to toe with china on trade or whatever. Sounds like your country might be a good contender. One way or another your country will learn to suck americas cock. If not wether it be refusal to directly pay for the wall or whatever in some way or another you will have been made an example. And youll probably be the first mark.

And the only issue in solving illegal imigration is a lack of will. If drones mines and snipers took out everyone crossing illegaly youd get fuck all coming in.

>>69122989
eh, I personally could care less about stopping illegal immigration if it results in a stronger, more protectionist American economy.

>>69123100
I hope there are landmines.

>>69119162
I still can't honestly peg him. Although his cabinet choices are a bit to go on.
He will either end up as the worst president ever, or he will actually accomplish something of note. Maybe even partially fix our political system.
Of course he could use the drain the swamp thing as a pretense to silence opposition like I was afraid Hillary would do with the gerrymandering bit.

Not to mention people are now divided into two camps on the internet with one being laughing trump supporters, and the other being butthurt hillary supporters.
It's all toxic garbage to me.

>>69123100
>One way or another your country will learn to suck americas cock
If things continue like they are right now, the most likely scenario is that Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, our own version of Maduro (from Venezuela) wins the next elections in 2018 and we shift to the anti-USA side of the left.

We will turn into Venezuela before sucking their cock. And having a Venezuela as their neighbours is not going to be good for them, no matter how you look at it.

>>69123129
>protectionst economy
>stronger
Oh boy.

>>69120427
i think he's great at selling stuff to idiots, and that takes talent

>>69119162
I'm extremely glad he won the election. The fact that so many liberals are still unhappy about it makes my day.

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>>69122392
do you like Mexican immigrants? because fucking up Mexico will get you tons of those

>>69123192
How about a vote.

Would you rather have gone with Hillary Clintons policy of leaving everything be.

Or Trumps which is build a wall thats to dangerous and expensive for most people to attempt, stop allowing the cartels to operate in the us and stopping damage their bottom line by making smuggling hard. Make Mexico pay for the wall one way or another.

Sure making Mexico americas bitch might turn it into another commy shithole but lets be honest your country essentialy runs on mad max rules. It cant really get any worse.

I know I'd rather have venezuela bordering my strong wall over mexico without one.

And even if you guys go commy thats just long term for the best. We need more examples like venezuela. We nearly had Sweden but then they realised how much they fucked up and theyre kicking alot of them out.

>>69123100
>One way or another your country will learn to suck americas cock.


We're not British, we would sooner turn into a new Cuba/Venezuela rather than bow down to the eternal gringo as the other anon said

>>69123505
I think your white upper class will betray you before that happens.

>>69123457
"You have to take put their families" he repeated that on fox because they didnt beleive what they heard. And he still won.

Please actualy answer this question. Do you honestly think he wont kill your people that attempt crossings. No wall is 100% but if your people do cross enough to make it a issue then I have no doubt that the landmines turrets drones militias etc will be used to bring it to heel.

>>69120195
Open up that wallet, Paco

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Three types of trump supporter

1. 90% bog-standard republican voter
2. 9% MAGA hat wearing reddit memesters who would let their own mother's pussy be grabbed by le emperor if they thought it might make a leftist angry. Very VERY angry about young people, celebrities and academics all condemning Trump, but they have the cryptonite to any argument the word 'cuck'.
3. 1% creepy anime avatar autists who relish the chance to be part of a 'movement' to compensate for not having friends. Most commonly found on this website projecting their pedo tendencies onto pizza shop owners and fantasising about being Donald's autistic son.

>>69123641
Projecting a bit I see.

>>69123641
I'm a leftie who voted Trump.
I guess in the end I could stomach the hope that he might actually do some good over doing what I felt was bending over to what a candidate who turned the Democratic party into an oxymoron.

>>69123685
you are the 1% I see :)

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>>69119162
I think we have our guy in White House now and we can literally show everyone how West are rotting not in a propaganda tv shows, but IRL

>>69119162
a fella that decided to run for president at a time when the system is falling apart little by little due to the greed and downright madness of certain elites (politicians are just part of it). Also, it was him vs. clinton so he had it easy (burgers hit a dead end: a petulant guy that is pretty much a large "?" and a warmonger, cant really blame them).
A side effect of his policies will make my shithole to tremble because our government has spent the last 25 squandering money on stupid shit and stealing the tax money and never invested in anything other than their manors. The bunch of cholos that will be sent back (the guys that committed serious shit) will be the cherry on the cake because we already have enough degenerates to deal with. This shit is going to get sick.
To be honest, i no longer give a shit, i've lived a nice life and it was great while it lasted, if this place go full amd max i'll try to do whatever i can to survive, been preparing by the way, although, realisticly, it is likely i'll get stabbed or BTFO by cholos running amok, but i have come to terms with it already. The end is seriously fucking nigh...

>>69119162
A narcissistic moron who played the average voter like a fiddle. The same low information idiots voted for Trump as the ones in the UK voted for Brexit. I hope he fails miserably.

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>>69123479
Yes, I definitely would have prefered Clinton, even with TPP (NAFTA on steroids), than this.

>stop allowing the cartels to operate in the us
How on earth will he do that without legalizing drugs and with Jeff Sessions as part of his cabinet? Please tell me because I can use a good laugh before going to sleep.

>It cant really get any worse.
Oh, it fucking can, trust me. Pic extremely related.

And what's worse, that "I am going to make them my bitch" sure worked with Cuba, right? Castro outlived 11 American presidents while showing them his middle finger right in front of them. Sure, the guy was a dictator and I hate him, but he is a good example as to why it would not work. And it wasn't even inconsecuential for the rest of the world, remember the missile crisis that almost gets everyone killed in WW3? It was all because of their proxymity to the US.

>I know I'd rather have venezuela bordering my strong wall over mexico without one.
You have no idea of what you are talking about. See how nice is the border between them and Colombia, not to mention everything above.

>We need more examples like venezuela
And like Cuba for the last decades?Also, comparing Venezuela with Sweden just because they are both left is incredibly stupid. They are extremely different cases and ideologies

>>69123538
I am white upper class myself. Not to mention that we are less than 15% of the country, and that Fidel Castro, or Subcomandante Marcos weren't exactly amerindians.

>>69123727
>we
>we
~cringed~

>>69119162
Charlatan that will delegate all his powers to Pence. A Zionist stooge. Still better than Hillary, probably.

Breddy cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>69119162
Tbh it's gonna be a bumpy presidency. Though I think there will be some good out of this considering we've had media celebrities become president and it turn out great. But I thank God that Hillary lost.

>>69119162
Better candidate than Hillary. Business-wise I think he got a shot in running USA based on his years as an executive.
The butthurt that he done is delicious though.

>>69123713
No. You cobble together your world view from facebook posts cnn msnbc buzzfeed social media and some interaction with others.

Whilst mine on this subject matter comes from regularly visiting pol for years and even by chance chatting with several people who visit in rl.

The 9% you mention is basicaly reddit the donald. They have no ability to think for themselves. It was made as our colony and most threads there are pasted from here.

The 1% is just weebos being weebos. Atleast its not furfag or mlp.

The other group you left out can be easily boxed together into the term alternative right. Which follows a wide range of beleifs. The core being civic or ethnic nationalism and protectionism. Anything from almost mainstream gop beleifs to full on 1488 heil Hitler. Im closer to the latter In that I know that Hitler did nothing wrong.

>>69119162
He seems to have backtracked on most of his insane ideas so I'm ok with him being an American president. Can't be worse than Obama in Poland's case.

>>69123754
Then you'd know that in every instance of latin america's history it's the majority of the white upper class that roles over for american interests to preserve or extend their power. Cuba especially comes to mind.

>>69123214
no he's not. He has defaulted on countless of his businesses, in some cases within 2 months of launching them, like Trump Steaks. All of the successful Trump branded products are built and sold by third parties. His dad set him up in the real estate business, and essentially Trump's largest contribution since taking over has been his name. He has reaped the benefits earned by his father and his delegates, while spending his own time developing failed business after failed business. His track record is unprecedented; Trump Steak, Trump Airlines, Trump: The Game, Trump University. All completely unrelated and all failures. Does that look like someone with direction who knows what they're doing?

>>69123100
>If drones mines and snipers took out everyone crossing illegaly youd get fuck all coming in

Is that something a 15 year old edgy white kid with insecurities would dream about?

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>>69123897
>Whilst mine on this subject matter comes from regularly visiting pol for years

>>69119162
dont really care

>>69119162
Russian shill. God help the west if Le Pen wins in France.

>>69119162
Hate him, progressive Europe should unite against reactionary USA.

>>69123908
Not in Mexico. You really need to take a look at our history. Trotsky was a refugee in here for a reason and as a tiny example.

>>69123997
Obongo was sucking Russian dong at the start of his first term too. He'll get over it pretty quickly.

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>>69124021
Here's a big example. Guess what social strata and ethnic group his largest supporters came from.

>>69124069
>«Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States!».
t. Porfirio Díaz

Btw, the revolution happened because of him. Later, the revolutionaries crafted the Mexican Constitution of 1917, which was so liberal it inspired both the Weimar Constitution of 1919 and the Russian Constitution of 1918 not long after we also exiled Victoriano Huerta, a traitor backed by the US ambassador. In that same war, Pancho Villa (the Governor of Chihuahua) would invade Texas, prompting the "Border War" with the US. Mexico was also the first nation in the Americas to establish relationships with the USSR, and in the 40s we nationalized our oil and send all the American companies to go fuck themselves. Fidel Castro and Che Guevara both planned the Cuban Revolution in Mexico and we were the only country that never broke relationships with them. Trostky was later a political refugee and he came here. Do you want more examples?

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>liberals are still crying that trump won

>>69123754
Yeah you font get to vote. Probably shouls have mentioned that. Burgers only.

Dont be so autistic. I didnt mean he would find every single person related to the cartel. If the border is strong then drugs impoeted in will cost much more because of product lost and the pages needed to justify the risk. Apart from Cocaine for the rich that would make most uncompetitive.


Once again theoreticaly it could become slightly worse but you dont have to be autistic about it.

If Cuba didnt have the USSR backing them up theyd have been sorted out a while ago.

Yeah I do. Strong wall = few venz making it through with all limbs still attached. Weak wall means as many of the bottom of the barrel filth flow across as they want. Along with the crimjnal empires your country lets run amok.

Jumping to acussations of idiocy whilst you yourself failed to read what I said reeks of projection. I will explain what I said as you may have just missed it because didnt grow up speeking English.

To bad Sweden didnt colapse as venezuela is. It would have hopefully been a good lesson as to why bringing in the third hoards isnt progressm. Like venezuela is a harsh lesson on the dangers of socialism. Eating dicking zoo animals to survive.

>>69124177
Right wingers were crying about Obama for 8 years.

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>>69124233
>t. bullprepper

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>>69124176
You mean revolutionaries that looked like so and came from various social strata? I agree these are the people that did not bend to american interlopers.

>>69123973
Yeah you really do need to learn to read. I said on this subject matter. If I wanted to know what this particual mix of flour beef beans and salsa is called id ask a mexican and he'd probably have a good idea which one its called.

If you wanted to know about the details of trumps coalition you hopefully wouldnt just pull a load of facts and figures out of your ass. Youd ask someone who actualy knew something about it. Or idealy atleast 1 somebody from each side.

>>69124218
You asked me what I would have preferred and I answered, dumb cunt. I know I don't get to vote. Also, do you know just how profitable drug trafficking is or do I also need to explain it to you? Because it is the most profitable business in the world and it's not even close. As it is they can lose 99% of their produce and they will still get more 1000% in assets. And it is like that because they are illegal, and they are not going away just because of it, the only plausible solution to this problem is to legalize them and incorporate them into the normal markets, just like we do with Alcohol, Tobacco, and even fucking sugar. Do you see that spike in violence in the Mexico between 2006-2011? Why do you think that is? Hint: it has to do with drugs being illegal.
Now, I told you that the wall is not even needed in this day and age, Mexicans are coming back, not going in. And not only would it be completely useless, it would also be costly and only needed again because of his policies, his fucking fault and the fault of the Koch brother type of cunts that benefit enormously from illegal immigration, cheap labor and all the republicans they have in their pockets. The same republicans that are a majority in all the US branches of power right now.
And stop with fucking Sweden, they have absolutely nothing in common with Venezuela, and they never did, nor where they going to fall.

>>69124291
Exactly, that 70% of the population.

>>69119162
Aside from usual controversial stories, honestly I dont think any of his economic policies sounds so good.
"Made in USA" crap is one of that. I have yet to read a single article that explains how it will perform in terms of realistic functionality. Almost all articles out there are all about vague narratives/assumptions of the economic wars caused by the isolationism, like tariffs on China/turning away from South America, or euphoric deregulation wet dreams including fictional ones.

Dont know how you will sell that Made in Trump's Empire™ high-end items to the rest of the world. I mean, you can buy any Chink shit instead of that Trump's Empire™ items whenever you want. Thats what Japan did when the CCP stopped selling the rare earth elements to Japan because of their similar isolationism and nationalism to the current Americas one. Japan managed to raise all of that from other 3rd world countries and Australia, and developed it, and even produced too many to the point where Chink REE's prices came to a crash. The CCP got BTFO in the end and eventually compromised with Japan. My guess is you're gonna get a similar consequence from China or any other country.

And also I dont know how the poor/middle class will get by without cheap Chink shit, how the riches who will get the benefits the most from the Trump's policies will give it back to the poor/middle class.

>>69124397
Pulling facts and figures out of your ass again huh.

I miss the pre trump election pol where people would tell you to fuck off for citing statistics without source.

I know every buissness empire especialy a drug empire looks like a endless supply of cash but the moment you have to handle it it wont be.

So drugs where extra super illegal from 2006 to 11.

Yeah because ignoring a problem just because its not as bad a earlier is a great idea.

Here we go on a rant about the koch brothers evil republicans and the poor illegals forced to slave away for less than minimum.

You cant have it everyone way you want. You want republicans to be the monsters regardless of wether they build a wall or leave things be.

Once again your making statements without the facts. The budget defecit, the extreme increases in serious crimes including rape, the heads of many police apartments admitting that they have nowhere near the manpower and they are being made to release migrants for minor offences and give them less time in jail. There was open talk amoung some people in power and amoungst the people responsible for safety, the police force/army about the posibility things will quickly unravel. Not long after these mutterings started to become public aswell as similar talk in france and germany it was decided that nah fuck migrants. And the swedes and germans have been trying to purge themselves ever since.

You dont know about this because cnn or whatever shit version you have of that didnt mention it.

Tbh seeing something so obviously biased doesnt give me much hope for a decent argument. You also apear to have become rather agitated.

And its nearly 8am here so I need to get to bed fairly soon. Ill probably reply to whatever else is left.

>>69124670
You make good points, America has basically just become an exporter of brands and media.

>>69124813
Not that guy but I do find it ridiculous that you're questioning sources while simultaneously discrediting traditional journalism on alt right rationale. And you're plain wrong on any correlation in between migrants and crime.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaestevez/2015/09/03/debunking-donald-trumps-five-extreme-statements-about-immigrants-and-mexico/#7e675aa97076

>>69124813
http://www.unodc.org/wdr2016/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2009/dec/13/drug-money-banks-saved-un-cfief-claims

For example: Methamphetamine can be produced at $300 per kilo and sold on the street at $60,000 or more. If the police seized 99% of those $60,000 and only 600 remained, the utility would still be of 100%. Simple fucking math.
2006 was the year when drugs where extra super illegal and the Mexican government literally declared drug trafficking an act of war so it send the army to hit the hive.
Republicans sure as hell aren't doing anything to stop Big Companies from hiring them. They want to keep them while not giving them social services and using them as a scapegoat. Democrats on the other hand seem to be wanting to use them for votes. Overall, "the immigration problem" has been promoted, not stopped, by their government throughout the last centuries. Or do you also want me to teach you about Mexican-American relationships in the last 200 years? Here is a start: Ronald Reagan. There is a reason almost 7 million of the illegal immigrants in the US don’t come from Mexico or any other country that borders the US. They are making a perfect job at attracting illegals from all over the world, don’t they? Especially when you consider that about half of the illegal immigrants in the US didn’t enter through the Mexican-American border.
> The budget defecit, the extreme increases in serious crimes including rape
[citation needed]
And it better be a good one. Because, I actually have provided links, quotes and images in my previous posts. Where are YOUR sources?
And that is obviating the fact that MEXICANS ARE COMING BACK. Great arguments you have there, bong.

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https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/Studies/Illicit_financial_flows_2011_web.pdf