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Which one of these Asian languages should I learn?

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Japanese, Korean, or Mandarin? I love them all but I can't learn all of them at the same time.
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>>69059096
mandarin
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Post the don't learn Chinese picture
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Mandarin
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>>69059279
This
Please someone post it
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>>69059096
all of them are nothing shit but crap shit
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>>69059279
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>>69059096
If you master either Japanese or Mandarin, you can understand like 3% of the other without studying it.
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>>69059096
Why don't you learn Mongolian?
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>>69059361

From my business experiences, Koreans are exactly the same, the only difference is they are more tightly knit together and are speaking Korean

So learn Japanese, OP
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>>69059361
>>69059711
>>69059791
I'll study Japanese first then, thanks guys!
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>>69059096
You can learn Mandarin and Korean at the same time

Korean + Japanese, grammar is too similar so you'll mix up vocab

Japanese + Mandarin, learning double the characters will confuse you
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>>69059096
Que idiomas (indoeuropeas) sabes ya?
Por que no comiences con ellas?
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한국어!
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>>69060172
I could try to learn two at the same time, but I think it's inefficient. Wouldn't it take double the time to get proficient in both languages?

I prefer to be able to use them as soon as possible, that way if I learn Japanese (for example) I could use Japanese resources to learn Korean or Mandarin.

>>69060317
Puedo hablar español, francés e inglés. Quiero aprender algún idioma asiático porque me interesan mucho.
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>>69060505
It will take double the time if you split up your planned language learning time between the two, but not if you just put double the effort in (assuming the two languages aren't too similar, like I said before). Ask yourself how much free time you have, I guess.

If you're absolutely set on learning all 3 eventually, I would imagine it to be efficient to transfer knowledge of Chinese characters and Korean grammar over to Japanese, that way Japanese would just be mostly be vocab study.
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>>69059096
90% of Japanese struggle with learning English and never be able to speak it fluently and correctly, and vice versa desu. So you just can't do it.
Learn Mandarin.
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Gaijin's obsession with asian is disgusting. It's Steve Jobs' fault. Fuck ZEN
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>>69062659
What does the Japanese inability to learn English has to do with me?
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>>69061136
I don't really have the time to learn two of those languages at once, everything seems to steer me in the direction of Japanese. I learn that I'll have kanji knowledge for Mandarin, and grammar knowledge for Korean.
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>>69059096

Mandarin
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DESU, it's a waste of time and energy.
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>>69059096
gookorean would be your worst bet m8
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>>69062761
We don't have to learn English
You don't have to learn Japanese
I mean It's hard to keep your motivation up.
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>>69059096
DO NOT LEARN MANDARIN!!!

>t. myself
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>>69063050
But it's fun.
>>69063142
That's not a good reason for why it can't be learned. (Also most English speakers in the world can't speak English very well and expressively, including many native speakers)
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>>69063142
Well I know I don't have to, it's not like anyone is forcing me to learn an Asian language. I want to do it though, learning languages is a fun hobby for me.
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>>69063161
I like the way taiwanese speak 普通語
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>>69060422
언제부터 한국어를 공부했나?
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>>69063291
oppa gannam style!!!
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>>69059096
Japanese: ok grammar, shitty writing system, easiest pronunciation;
Chinese: easiest grammar, shittiest writing system, hardest pronunciation (plus, it's ugly);
Korean: shittiest grammar, easiest writing system, ok pronunciation.

But I'd go with Mandarin Chinese. I think it is more useful. Besides, grammar is usually the hardest thing to learn... All it takes to learn Mandarin is a good memory (repeat, repeat, repeat...) and some practice with tones (it's not as hard as most people think).
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>>69063253
>普通語
You mean 國語?
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you don't wanna learn dis shit don't you?
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chinese are shit but Hong kong and taiwan are fine.
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>>69063320
japanese and korean grammar are identical numbnuts. both follow SOV
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>>69063311
急に何だ?
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>>69063320
That's kinda the same way I see it. I'm leaning towards Japanese because I prefer weird/difficult/complex writing systems and Japanese seems to be ideal for that.
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>>69063343
I mean 北京語
國語 means national language.
Swedish is 國語 for you and Japanese is 國語 for me desu.
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you will regret
學別的語言吧!
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>>69059791
If you are still here, could you write something more abot them?
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>>69063403
I was confused when I learnt English for the first time and saw it(13yo)
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>>69063344
What is it when they put 来 before verbs? What's the purpose?
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>>69063500
it sometimes mean 'came'
like 來吃飯吧=came here to eat
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>>69063344
your 字 is 汚
(your handwriting is bad)

Hey gaijins we can communicate without learning chinese/japanese like this. Kanji is awesome.
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>>69063426
My point is, taiwanese say 國語 and not 普通話, that's more of a mainland thing. At least from my understanding

>>69063439
I regret not studying harder when I had the chance ;_;
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>>69063591
yeah obviously but does it have any other meaning, I saw it used before verbs where come doesn't make sense
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>>69063600
i know
cause i was losing patience at that time
can't bear this cluster fuck tons of idiom
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>>69063403
Yes. I am learning korean,its grammar is very like.
But Notice the following: details differ a bit between two.
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>>69063728
yeah, got it from here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2ZCa2arqA

was surprised how similar the two were as well
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>>69063320
>>69063403

Japanese and Korean are structurally similar, but I agree that Korean is at least slightly more complicated (being the hardest of the three).

And yes, Chinese is by far the easiest when it comes to grammar.
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>>69063699
i can only find it's meaning in chinese
1. 由另一方面到这一方面,与“往”、“去”相对:~回。~往。过~。归~。~鸿去燕(喻来回迁徙,不能在一地常住;亦喻书信来往)。
2. 从过去到现在:从~。向~。
3. 现在以后,未到的时间:~年。将~。~日方长。
4. 用在数词或数量词后面,表示约略估计:二百~头猪。
5. 做某个动作:胡~。
6. 用在动词前,表示要做某事:大家~动脑筋。
7. 用在动词后,表示做过(一般均可用“来着”):昨天他哭~。
8. 用在动词后,表示动作的趋向:上~。
9. 表示发生:暴风雨~了。
10. 在数词一、二、三后面,表示列举理由:这台收录机一~音质好,二~价钱便宜,我就买了。
11. 用做诗、歌词中的衬字:八月里~桂花香。
12. 表示语气,归去~兮!
13. 姓。
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>>69063805
I don't understand this because there is no Japanese subtitles.
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>>69063952
cute
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>>69063691
sorry I didn't know that
then 國語 is 北京語 in taiwan??
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>>69063972
I cann't playback and stop to read English or korean subtitle because I am tired.
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>>69064051
國語 = mandarin, yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXpyr0aVkHM&t=1550s

Is this guy famous in Japan? His japanese seems to be sharp as fuck.
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>>69064051
we don't use 北京話(beijing's language) or 普通話(normal language) to say Mandarin
we call it 國語 (nation's language)or 中文(chinese language) here in Taiwan
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>>69064140
그 비디오는 어차피 중요하지 않지
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>>69064224
A question. How hard would it be for a foreigner, meaning me, to study at university in Taiwan? I've studied chinese for two years in Taiwan, so I'm not a complete beginner, but no expert either. I want to study computer science or programming or something similar.
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>>69063500
I'm not a native speaker but I feel like they often use 来 before the outcome of something, so there doesn't need to be movement necessarily. You see that a lot as "用 [something] 来 [action]" especially.
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>>69064601
알았어.
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>>69064749
it depends on your talent, Swede bro
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Learning languages due to some strange supposition that their native users may be nice people would definitely result in one big dissapointment. I study Mandarin, because I treat it as some kind of intellectual challenge, that's all.
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>>69065100
哦 真的嗎?
你現在隨便說個幾句給我聽聽
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>>69063699
Find this book, it contains explanations for all those "strange" verbs:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/338945.Modern_Mandarin_Chinese_Grammar
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>>69065066
Only one way to find out, I guess
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你好吗台湾朋友
住哪里的?
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>>69065516
我在新北板橋市
你呢?
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>>69065201
However, neither the 1st nor the 2nd edition of that book contain a section on the interesting uses of 来.
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>>69065201
ah well I'm not trying to learn Mandarin, I mean it would be nice but I'm busy with other things
I just have some minimal knowledge I picked up over the course of years
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>>69065577
板橋區…我以前住在三重,正義北路
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>>69065154
>你現在隨便說個幾句給我聽聽
Did you make a mistake there, or can you actually say 個幾 like that?
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>>69065154
Sorry, I only learn the simplified characters at this point, but if I understand you correctly - I still need several years to be able to decipher this language, formally speaking I have only HSK4 and this means that I'm barely on the A2 level.
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>>69065685
this is 100% how native speak
you will never learn it from any book
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>>69065647
you can give me your social account
i can visit you when you come to Taiwan :3
>>69066266
ok
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>>69066271
So what does 個幾 mean here? "One or a few"? Or does it just mean "a few"?
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>>69066402
說個幾句 and 說幾句話 are the same
both mean 'say something' but we use the previous one verbally
'幾' means 'few'
'個' doesn't mean anything
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>>69066402
>說個幾句
=說幾句
dont separate into 個幾
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>>69063344
What do all the circles and underlines mean here?
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>>69066340
你還在嗎?我的line ID是kallecola
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>>69067008
it means it is something important
but i can't remember shit
>>69067056
what ID?
fb or line?
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>>69067225
Line
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How do you say meme in Mandarin? Also post some Chinese internet meme I am curious
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>>69067266
ok
but be warned
i am a little autistic and currently busy from every Monday to Saturday
so i won't be online frequently
you can still ask me any question about Taiwan through
>>69067336
>"梗"
here is one

oh and i am going to sleep right now
BYE BYE
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>>69067596
>i am a little autistic
so am I :^)
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