How comes Spaniards never get shit for their geonicde?

APOLOGIZE SPAIN

forced conversions and expulsions are not genocide

>>69015843

because muslims don't count as humans.

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revenge :-DDD

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>>69015890
Pretty much this

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>Implying the Romans didn't systematically exterminated all the barbarians they considered troublesome.
>It was considered such a good policy that they even have monuments about how proud they were of their genocides. They don't deny it, they embraced it.

>>69015885
>muslims invaded spain
>that makes it ok to genocide their peaceful descendats almost a 1000 years later

Where are the reparations? Why isn't anyone talking about this?

Fuck Spain.

Righteous revenge for a long occupation.

>>69015843
was er war on terrorism, bringing democracy and liberty, the only colors I need are red white and yellow SPANIA SPANIA SPANIA, freedom aint free.

>>69015948
Eh, Senatoros Rexes, bring me the barbarian for my IIIX Legion Regimo Germania, also kill all the Carthaginians.

>>69015954
They weren't citizens nor accepted people of the Christian Spanish State.

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>>69015843
Thats not all, the inquisition organised the society depending on the purity of the blood, the plan was clean the spanish blood of the muslim or jewish blood.
In the middle age the converted people had the name of new christians and they had a lower treatment compared to the old christians.
Don't forget the "expulsion de los moriscos" that was the complete expulsion of all the muslims of the peninsula, you leave or you die.

thanks inquisitors

>>69016128
And Jews and Slavs weren't citizens nor accepted people of the National Socialistic German State, so i guess it wasnt genocide then

>>69016247
Nope.

>>69016247
Just Germans fighting occupancy from invaders in their country, Jews had no rights to Germany, thus it's impossible to aggress upon them.

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>>69016247
I've seen turks justifying genocides because it were done "in times of war and urge" so

>>69016369
and we call them out on their bullshit, yet Spaniards get free pass

>>69016384
t.turk

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>>69016341
If Jews didn't want German Law and German State, then maybe they shouldn't have moved there, if I move to meat grinder is the grinder at fault?
The German State had its laws, the Jews laughed at them and imposed their will over German laws.

>>69016465
If I move into white house, I am arrested and possibly shot.
If I move into Germany, I am arrested and possibly shot.

>>69015843
>1000 years ago

wow big deal.
nobody complains about vikings raping and murdering entire towns either.
that's just how life worked back then.
every "atrocity" commited over 200 years ago people don't give a fuck about.

it doesn't hit you as much as the armenian or kike genocides because there's actually still people alive that suffered those things and they happened in a time in which we were supposed to be already well civilized.

also, that wasn't even proper spain, it's just a bunch of medieval kingdoms.

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>>69016497
wat if i move to usa

>>69015843
Because it's seen as killing invaders while killing Jews is seen like killing defenceless people.
>>69016465
But Jews were citizens of Germany so they had right to their opinion.

You can't break a man the way you break a dog...or a horse. The harder you beat a man, the taller he stands. To break a man's will, to break his spirit, you have to break his mind. Men have this idea that we can fight with dignity, that it's the proper way to kill someone; it's absurd, it's inaesthetic. We needed to endure the bloody horror of murder. You must destroy that idea. Show them what a messy, terrible thing it is to kill a man... and then show them that you relish in it. Shoot the wounded, then execute the wounded; burn them. Take them in close combat, destroy their preconceptions of what a man is, and you become their personal monster. When they fear you... you become stronger, you become better. But let's never forget, it's a display, it's a posture, like a lion's roar or a gorilla thumping at his chest. If you lose yourself with display, if you succumb to the horror... then you become the monster. You become reduced. Not more than a man, but less; and it can be fatal.

>>69016527
>it doesn't hit you as much as the armenian or kike genocides because there's actually still people alive that suffered those things
If they are alive they obviously weren't killed, everyone suffering from the war.

>>69016532
kek

>>69016535
>But Jews were citizens of Germany so they had right to their opinion.
Nice propaganda, Jews weren't citizens of Germany, they were subject to law of aliens.

>>69015843
>"First" genocide
>kickin the invader out

>>69016247

Well it wasn't. And it wasn't a "holocaust" either.

>>69016556
I don't know if you're genuinely retarded or you're trying to make a point that I'm missing.

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>>69015843
based

>>69016527
>it doesn't hit you as much as the armenian or kike genocides because there's actually still people alive that suffered those things

>if some people are left alive, it's a genocide
>if all the people are dead, it's not a genocide

wow nice logic pablito

>>69016630
There is 0 special about Jews in ww2, they were just one of the various antagonists and fighters who both killed people and died.

>>69015843
Because it was justified

>>69016660
what the fuck are you even talking about, you retarded nigger
I never said that.

>>69016662
oh, so you're one of those who deny the holocaust?
or are you saying that because more people died from the actual war rather than the concentration camps it wasn't a genocide more than it was just more death because of the war?

in both cases you're wrong so idk

>>69016742
>I never said that.
But I'm quoting you idiot

>>69016742
I don't believe in the holocaust ideology.

>>69015843
You're not absolved Hans

>>69015843
We also killed 120 millions of american natives

>>69016767
>if some people are left alive, it's a genocide
>if all the people are dead, it's not a genocide

how the fuck did you translate what I said into that?
that doesn't make any fucking sense, I never said nor implied that, stop being a retarded nigger.

>>69016778
dude, I understand if you just dislike the kikes, nobody likes them.
but it's undeniable that the nazis nearly wiped them out of existance, particularly the askenazis.
and that wasn't "just part of the war", it was an actual genocide orchestrated with the sole intention of exterminating an entire race.

you literally can't deny that.

>>69016819
nah, it was the flu

>>69016817
neither are you. pay denbs

>>69016872

but it's undeniable that the nazis nearly wiped them out of existance, particularly the askenazis.
and that wasn't "just part of the war", it was an actual genocide orchestrated with the sole intention of exterminating an entire race.
I don't believe in genocide ideology, nor holocaust ideology.

>>69016910
Pay reps
And apologise

>>69016957
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reparations_for_World_War_II#Greece

>>69016920
>I have no argument so I'll say the same thing I said the las post
if you keep repeating yourself without explaining nobody will ever take you seriously.

I'll stop talking to you now and I'll probably never agin waste my time with americans.

>>69017055
prove to me genocide and holocaust ideology exist.

>>69017019
Hi ikibey. How have you been?

It wasn't a genocide you smelly Turk. Most of the Moor's either returned to Morocco or moved elsewhere in the Muslim world.

>>69015890
100% true

>>69015843
we already have enough shit for America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legend
thanks eternal anglo

>five million people
Was there even that many people in the Muslim parts at the time? And wasn't the majority always Christian?

>tfw you'll never be spanish
>you'll never liberate Castilian Granada from saracens
>you will never be the part of a nation of greatest warriors and explorers
Tge fuck shoukd I live my life knowing this

>>69015890
:D

>>69015843
> what is historical context?

> 15th-17th centuries
Telling Muslims to gtfo was a much more humane manner to deal with a problematic population than outright extermination, which was the norm. Those were the times of France's Wars of Religion, Süleyman, Babur and Ivan Grozny.

> 20th century
After Enlightenment, the Rights of Man, the Industrial revolution, photography, telecommunications and liberalism had happened, you guys decided that the world would be a better place without Herero, Namaqua and Jews. Do you really believe that pre-1850 ethnic cleansings are just as bad as the Vernichtungsbefehl?

They already have to deal with being Spanish, no need to heap more shit on them

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Why did countries go on a big crusade sending loads of their men to fight in the Holy Lands when they had a potentially hostile Muslim nation next door and less men to protect them?

>>69015843
Actually it didn't matter if they converted, they were forced to leave in the end anyway.

>>69015890
This

>>69020286
Pyrenees.

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>You wake up in Northern Spain in the year 1000.

>>69019652
spains total population was like 2 million.

>>69015896
You lost that war m8

>>69020630
> be Spanish
> get Almanzor'd
No thanks.

>>69020694
>get Almanzor'd
>anno XXX

>>69015843
>spain
>white

They genoxide themselves long times ago. Thats why you see mere Pablo on strret

>>69015843
reconquista was genocide but islamic cpnquest wasn't?
what the hell germany, if you want to pick on me bring up america

>>69015843
how did the spanish take back so much land?

>>69020830
Not having retarded succession laws and traditions.

>>69020562
and christians on the other side to help them once they're through
also, pyrenees didn't stop napoleon and pepe botella

hell, there were french soldiers around at the time, look up Roldán

>>69015843
If you're going to consider the Reconquest a genocide, at least be consistent and consider the Umayyad conquest of the region another.

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>>69015843
>Germany defending Muslims

>>69020830
After a looong time and taking advantage of Spanish Muslims being wimps. If they had stuck more with Allah and less with science and poetry, we could have had a Caliphate from Gibraltar to the Danube. Spanish Christians only cared about chopping durka heads, and eventually the Catholic faith became the first religious confession in the world and Spanish the second language with most native speakers.
Brutality pays off.

>>69020630
I'd be glad I didn't wake up at home in the year 1000.

>>69021082
>After a looong time and taking advantage of Spanish Muslims being wimps.
>loooong time
>anno 711
>asturian kingdom established
hether Pelagius or Favila were ever considered kings in their own lifetime is debatable, but Alfonso certainly was. He began a lifelong war against the Moors. In 740, he conquered Galicia and in 754, León. He went as far as La Rioja.

No long time, just impossible to beat brainwashed shit tons of native spaniards, who were peasant serfs before.

>>69021082
>If they had stuck more with Allah and less with science and poetry
>muh golden years of peace and prosperity of islamic domination

believing PSOE educational system lies.

>>69021206
>be peasant serfs
>muslims ban slavery
>become muslim
>call yourself arab
>dedicate your life to Islam and jihad against the infidels.

>>69021082
sounds like muslim scum lies to me

>>69021322
Serfdom isn't slavery

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>read Batolome de las Casa's "A short account of the destruction of the Indies"
>mfw upon finishing it

>>69021428
Sustenance is slavery.

>>69021452
bender

>>69015843
>Europes first genocide
>

>>69015896
look up the battle of lepanto stats

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>>69015843
>Europes first genocide

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That shit was justified though. "The glory of Al-Andalus" was mostly just a meme and christians were't tolerated too much in there. So good riddance. The spanish did the righ thing stating that you convert or you leave iberia.

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reminder it was the jews who helped the moors get in Iberia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Spain#Moorish_conquest

>>69015954
They weren't genocided, only expelled

I would have no problem if native americans would decide to expell all non-natives

In fact, they should do so long time ago

>>69015954
t. I am Greek

>>69016874

we did all the sneezing there.

>>69020830
same way muslims took so much land: wait for decadence and fragmentation, and have your enemies fight each other

>>69015843

why do muslishits consider that the iberian peninsula was taken from then when in fact they took it by force from someone else first?

>>69015954
> Peaceful

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>invade country
>get killed
hmmm...

>>69015890
This, based Spain

>invade a post-Roman Christian peninsula full of romance-speaking Christians
>force them to pay Jizya, make them second-class citizens in their own homeland
>wonder why they want to overthrow you and kick you out
Remove kebab

>>69015843
And how many did the muslims kill when they jihaded all over Iberia?

>>69015890
Based

>>69016384
Are you seriously comparing something that happened in 1915 with something that happened between 700 and 1492 AD?

>>69024395
During raids they would enslave and kill like half the population of the city.