>Finnish language Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

>>68910924

pro tip: no uses 99% of those

>>68911158
its always like this with those fucking stupid images, like that one with russian word for running

imo it makes a whole lot more sense to keep everyhing contained into a single word when ultimately refering to a single object.

vasara = a hammer
vasarani = my hammer
vasarallani = with my hammer
vasarattanikin = even without my hammer

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>Ripuloisinkohankaan?

Should I take a diarrhea after all?

>>68911206
preposition conjugation?

>>68911206

vasara
mun vasara
mun vasaral
ilman mun vasaraaki

This is how a normal person would say these things unless he's LARPing in a forest.

>>68911427
nuijutin
miu nuijutin
miu nuijuttimel
ilman miu nuijutintaki

>>68911427

Noin puhuvat vain neekerit ja nistit.

At least everything don't have a gender.

>>68911626

Maailma olis ainaki vähän parempi paikka jos Savon murre sammuis

>>68911427
Sadly we've lost the possessive suffixes for some reason, so Estonian can't do this.


>>68911427
This sounds much more like Estonian:
vasar
mu vasar
mu vasaraga (also "mu vasaral"; but using the adessive for instruments is a bit weird, but can be used for e.g vehicles)
mu vasarata/ilma mu vasarata

>>68911726
pöydätär = feminine table

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>>68911206
>vasara = a hammer
ok so far
>vasarani = my hammer
barely ok
>vasarallani = with my hammer
fuck. why dare you brake [my hummer] into two and insert [with] between the two.
>vasarattanikin
....

>>68911771
Whoops, the first reply was supposed to be >>68911206

>>68911791

vasaratta= without a hammer
vasarakin= even a hammer
vasaranikin= even my hammer

get it?

>>68912123
vasarananikin
"as my hammer"

???

>>68912154

vasarananikin voi puhua
"even when someone is my hammer they can still talk"

>>68910924
>Doesn't unnecessarily assign genders to inanimate objects
>Phonetic

Hmmm...

>>68912233

>persereikä
masculine anus

>pojupimppi
feminine anus

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Sorry folks, we did what we could to put an end to it

>>68912306
I was told otherwise what the fuck

vasarattomuus = the state of not possesing a hammer

>>68912306
Those seem to be two different words though

>>68912392
lol idk how the gender thing works bro

>>68912372

vasarattomuusblues = the gloomy feeling when a hammer is not in your possessions and it's really bringing you down and you just stare at the things you would like to hammer silently while planning a trip to k-rauta

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>>68912351
Persereikä translates to asshole and pojupimppi is boipussi.

>>68912233
>(...) assign genders (...)
Stop right there. It's called grammatical gender only because classical grammarians noticed certain patterns (e.g "woman" belongs to one class (called "feminine")and "man" belongs to teh other (called "masculine"). The neuter is the one that's left.)

The better term is "noun class". Languages like Swahili have pretty much the same system as the genders in European languages, only there are 14 of them.

A system of "animate" vs "inanimate" is also common, seen in Basque.

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>>68912470
>then this starts playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-fBfvTxD9w

>>68910924
I'm convinced Finnish isn't a human language.

>>68912461
In german it's like this for example

der Tisch = the table = masculine
die Gardine = the curtain = feminine
das Mädchen = the girl = neuter

Get it?

>>68912503
>Swahili
mida vittu

>>68912609
>girl is neutral
Germany YES

>>68910924
A bunch of insane, shit-flinging, cannibalistic hunter-gatherers many centuries ago came up with the idea, basically.

>>68912629
-chen at the end makes a noun neutral. IIRC etymologically Mädchen comes from an old word for maid. Adding -chen makes it mean "little maid".

Girls are servants.

Deutschland JA

>>68912629
That doesn't even make sense you stupid fucking burger you can't even meme correctly you fat FUCK

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>>68912740

>>68912668

>cannibalistic

Cannibalism was more of a German thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheim_(archaeological_site)

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>>68912668

>shit-flinging
You mean shit-SLINGING, right?

Frozen feces made an excellent improvised sling projectile when the ground was covered in deep snow and you couldn't get any rocks.

>>68912846
literally slavs

>>68912767
You seem upset Frederick Wilhelm.

>>68912846
>ywn ride a wooly mammoth into battle while shooting your foes with frozen poop from a slingshot
Is there any reason to live?

>>68912503
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Finnish_nominal_inflection
>51 fucking inflection types
And the poor bloody foreigners have to learn these.

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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Finnish_conjugation
>27 conjugation types for Finnish verbs

>>68913169
>we have only 26
Still, that's a huge number compared to Latin's 5.

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>>68913169
>>68913223

>>68910924
I think Finnish sounds pleasant, especially with the repeating vowels.

The Finnish language should be shown more respect.

>>68913169

for real though, do most immigrants actually manage to learn finnish?

>>68912844
Interesting, but the notorious Androphagi of Greek antiquity lore lived in the border region with what is today the Baltic states, and were of Fenno-Ugric stock.

>>68912846
Indeed, I stand corrected, thank you.

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>>68913584

>>68913169
I have a friend who married a Finnish girl an they now live there permanently. It took him years to learn the language, he really suffered over it.

>>68913169
>>68913223
Why are others too retard to learn as much as we?

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>>68911206
Seems pretty efficient to me. Why would you say something with many words when you can say the same thing with only one word?
Sometimes I wish I was Finnish

>>68913732
It's easy to learn without trying when you're a child, your brain is still malleable.

>>68913778

oluthetki = beer moment

btw

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>>68913169
>>68913223
>Want to learn Finnish and potentially immigrate to finland if at all possible
>secondthoughts.exe

>>68913609

Maybe they did but those tribes known to Greeks were the ancestors of modern day Russians not Finns.

>>68913853
I know that's why I posted it, in the sketch he says "time to grab my beer" which translated simply to "beermoment". I like that.

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You know how Finnish has two types of locative cases? Something that starts from inside (talossa, talosta, taloon or in a house, from inside a house, into a house) and something that starts from outside (talolla, talolta, talolle or at a house, from a house and to a house).

Well, I find it quite interesting that there used to be a third locative form that's still present in Hungarian: action that starts from on top of something. We would use the outside locative form for that, but Hungarians have different cases for actions involving things being on top of something, going on top of something and coming from on top of something. Subdelative, superessive and sublative.

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>>68913999

kalsarikännit pieruverkkareissa = underpant drunks (drinking alone at home) in fart sweat pants(track suit pants)

>>68913584
East asians tend to learn it pretty well.
Germanics, including anglos, tend to have that heavy lisping/mumbling accent, but otherwise grammatically decent.
Romance speakers, including greeks, seem to become relatively accentless(ignoring french fellows who do throat R), but also tend to have more trouble understanding spoken finnish and forming more complex sentences.
Africans tend to yell a lot and use just the base words without conjugation.
Middle-easterners are kinda like combination of Romance and African types.

>>68913999
I would argue that Estonian makes this distinction with the postposition "pea" in allative, adessive and ablative.


"laualt" [adessive of "laud"] - from the table; e.g "võta pudel laualt ära" - take the bottle from the table

"laua pealt" - from on top of the table, e.g "võta oma jalad laua pealt ära" - take your feet off the table

Although the difference is very minimal.

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>>68914189
>Africans tend to yell a lot and use just the base words without conjugation.
>Middle-easterners are kinda like combination of Romance and African types.
really makes you think

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>>68914189
>Germanics, including anglos, tend to have that heavy lisping/mumbling accent
>had lisp as a kid and used to mumble
>find English pretty easy to pronounce overall, exceptions of course apply
>mfw

>>68914189
africans tend to speak like estonians

"MITA SA SANOA???"

Someone please translate 'Suomalaisen suurin riesa on sisu'.

>>68914338
Well, the Estonians that go to Finland are pretty much the same as africans.

>>68914395
Finn's biggest nuisance is Sisu

Everyone here seems to know English fluently at least. How do you guys learn it so well?

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>>68913999
Another interesting fact; while Finnish has two groups of three locative cases, Hungarian has three, but Sami only two locative cases at all.

They've merged the inside and outside locative cases, so they've got just a single case for telling that something is going somewhere (illative); but what's curious is that they've merged the cases for telling that something is somewhere and that something is coming out of somewhere (elative and inessive) into a single, locative form.

Basically, you can't distinguish between "in a house" and "from a house" in Sami because they both use the same case.

>>68914591
Video games.

>>68914504
Sisu means something like spirit right? I don't feel any wiser but thanks anyway.

>>68914504
Finns'
Not Finn's

>>68914679
Suomalaisten
Suomalaisen

t. eri

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>>68914668

>>68914679
read again, bro

>>68914679
Finn's, because it's in singular form.

"The biggest nuisance of a Finn is sisu" would be a better translation

>>68914620
You play them in English then? Which games?

>>68914754

>You play them in English then?

yskys

>>68914754
All of them because they are almost never in Finnish.

>>68914754
>You play them in English then?
Mostly, yes.
>Which games?
All of them.

>>68914668

Sisu is a strange word meaning spirit, stubbornness and courage. It doesn't really have a proper translation. Sisu is more like a state of mind.

You could find many (cringeworthy) articles trying to explain the word, but I'm not sure would reading those help you to understand the word.

>>68914720

Basically this.

>>68912844
>Herxheim
that's scary as shit

>>68914591

>>68914620
This

Also, all movies and TV series are subbed here in contrast of Germany where even some blockbusters are or at least used to be dubbed.

>>68914668
Guts, resilience, fortitude, etc.

>>68914591
I learned through video games. I needed to understand the goals and manuals of RTS games. There were also some educational word games I had on a CD. Also some English Calvin and Hobbes comics, and eventually the internet. I was using chatrooms in my early teens, already having found Finnish game sites with chat way earlier.

>>68913999
The surviving locatives sometimes fill this function in Finnish as well. One example is 'pöydältä,' which means 'from the top of the table'. Whether the -lta/-ltä case means 'from on top of' or simply 'from' is mostly a matter of pragmatics; a table is seen as a surface to put things on, a house is not.

What *actually* makes the whole system into the impenetrable (for foreigners) shitshow it is is grammatical cases being used in ways completely unrelated to the ways their meanings are typically given as. Just like in English you might be taught that genitive always means possession or belonging of something to/by someone, and then it turns out there are over half a dozen different kind of genitive.

>>68914860
>>68914826
>>68915100
How about writing and grammar though?
Dont you have English classes like in Sweden or Germany?

Best part in finnish language is sananmuunnos. You can change place of letters and syllables smoothly and usually the word turns into something dirty
even sananmuunnos=twisting words turns into munansaannos =getting the dick

>>68915361
School is for good goyms, we stay home playing vidya.

>>68915361
Yes we have since the 3rd grade.

>>68915361
I'm 30. In my time you could either choose English as your "first foreign language" in third grade or start it as a mandatory subject in fifth grade if you chose something else.

If you got suckered into not taking English in third grade, it just means you find yourself looking at seven years of compulsory education with more hours to a regular school week than the other kids.

Yes, I'm bitter.

>>68915684
>>68915300
>>68915100
>>68914620
Thanks for responses. It just amazes me how many Europeans can speak English. Here in the USA, the native Whites only know their own language and dont even try to learn others. Though maybe Spanish.

>>68911206
These all sound like ways you're going to murder someone.

>>68915855
That's because English is lingua franca today. In Finland we are also forced to study Swedish and many people study optional foreign languages.

Fuuuckkkk

I need to learn this to get Finnish gc

>>68911206
>vasara = hammer
>vasarani = ni vasara = hammermy
>vasarallani = lla ni vasara = hammerwithmy
>vasarattanikin = kin tta ni vasara = hammerwithoutmyeven

>>68916075

I was about to write the same message.

I don't even think that English is a foreign language skill. Not knowing English is just weird. It's like sign of some sort of disorder.

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The language is designed to keep all you fucking faggots out.

We're full.

>>68916392
It hasn't worked yet

>>68916392
It's not my fault you're the best country in the world

>>68910924
>agglutinative languages
absolutely disgusting

>>68915955
>imblying these snowchinks arent ever a minute away from murdering someone with their puukko

>>68911206
hey you finns are just like the Turks :)

>>68915100
Same here, even before the internet, thanks to subtitles we all learn English fast and are able to speak it in a reasonable way at age 12 while our first English lesson starts at age 13-14 (first we receive 3 years of French).

>>68917146
Don't you go insulting my hunter-gatherer friends.

>>68917712
it was a compliment

>>68916392
The explain all the mudslimes and timos of the night rolling into Finland like a massive tidal wave of poverty and feces.

>>68918167
mudslimes aren't a problem here yet, since there's less than 60k of em. and you're obviously a finn koska käytit sanaa timo ja niitä kyllä riittää täällä

>>68918293
Tietty oon mut en oo tarpeeks syvän itsepetoksen vallassa etten näkis että Suomen väen vaihtaminen tummempaan on jo sen verta pitkällä et turha on huudella et asiat muka olis toisin.

>>68911735
Tuo vaan ei ole savon murretta nähnytkään

>>68911427
Are you a Somali or Helsinki teenager by chance?

>>68921509
There's nothing special about helsinki teenagers in that regard

t. lived in several cities around finland

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>>68916181

>>68916892
I think Malay is considered an agglutinative language too, but people say it's straight forward and easy to learn.

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>this thread
How the fuck am I supposed to learn Finnish?