I am slowly coming to terms with how full of shit everything

>>68780218
Have fun trying to live upto random peoples expectations.

I'm pretty sure no one would argue that The Wealth of Nations is dry and boring, or that Plato's writings are antediluvian. They are still read because they are a part of the thread of thought that lead us to where we are currently. Obviously the context is important, and all philosophy has generally been a response to preceding ideas. If you're choosing a path in college that deals with these subjects you're expected to be familiar with this kind of thing. No one cares if you enjoy it or not.

Also, Dickens is the shit, you fucking pleb.

>>68780293
Have fun being a neet

>>68780885
You sound like a normie who didn't even read my post in its entirety

>>68781044
How does that make you a neet?

>>68781071
YOU are the neet is what I meant.

>>68781044
>You sound like a normie who didn't even read my post in its entirety
I read your post, I'm just not sure what point you're making. Are you upset with academia for being pretentious? Are you complaining about your job? Did someone call you a dumb-dumb and you're just venting on 4chan?

I was merely addressing the bulk of your post where you seem to be questioning the purpose of reading some pretty substantial literary figures.

>>68781115
And how does that make someone a neet?

>>68781428
I'm sick and tired of these worthless cuckold books.

>steal a pdf of literally any book online
>first 10 pages are credits or something
>"i dedicate this book to ....."
>scroll through 50 pages
>close the pdf reader and go back to shitposting online

>>68780218
>I've read wealth of nations to page 200
There is literally no reason to read all of that you sperg

>>68781582
stop being a cuck then
>>68780293

>>68781729
>just,le ignore society dude

Kys you finnish nigger

>>68780218
Read Tolstoy if you want a fucking challenge you pleb.

>I read bad books, therefore everything is bad
No--the problem is you are stupid and make bad choices because you have bad judgment

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>>68782111
>Tol-cuck communist fuck

I rather read Julius Evola and Nietzsche.

>>68781846
Didn't really say that but ok.

>>68782111
And those books are literal classics you fucking spic, that's the whole point you illiterate chimpanzee

Go back to mexico

>canadian posters
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Pum4OaOtkL

>>68780218
absolutely canadian post

>>68782311
Delete this

>>68781594

>reading books on a pdf

i don't know how people do this desu

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ITT butthurt 15 year old leaf vents about how "smart" he is

>>68782838
>my engineering degree
>15 years old

Huh rly maeks u thunk

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>>68782925

>implying you're not lying

>>68780218
No one agrees on anything. At all.

"""Academics""" also shouldn't have their opinions placed above others desu. All ideas should be faced with the same scrutiny.

>>68783016
okay whatever

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>>68780218
>it's actually a very interesting thread
>on /int/

thank you leaf

>>68782750
too poor for books

>>68783028
>All ideas should be faced with the same scrutiny
no, saying "X is shit" is not as valuable as a 300 pages essay on why X is good

>>68783028
>One's opinion on the economy is just as important and valid as the opinion of an academic who is extensively educated in the field of economics
What's with this support for equality? I thought Americans hated communism

I like reading non-fiction books because they are interesting and I learn things from them.

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>>68782311
That was a nice little tune to be honest.

Is there an instrumental version without the memes?

>>68783286
what about fiction books

>>68780218
reading the wealth of nations without some knowledge of macroeconomics, economic history and history of economics tought is useless and pretentious,

>>68783244
You can easily dismiss the "X is shit" if it has no evidence backing it. Same thing to "X is good" if the 300 page essay has no substance whatsoever.

>>68783249
I'm no gommunist, I just think that good ideas shouldn't be judged based on the person who makes them.

>>68783242
Reading on a computer screen for hours makes me feel like death. I'd read PDF's if I could physically bare it, but paper doesn't strain my eyes nearly as much so I read book instead.

>>68783527
Same for me, but when you have no choice..

>>68783397
I like films more when it comes to fiction.

>>68780218
>Want to read something intellectual
>Read Plato, Dickens and FUCKING le invisibuhl hand wealth of nations

hahahahah this is what classcucks actually believe

these are exactly the kinds of braindead shit that the ptb want you to read and be indoctrinated by, the reason you think it is stupid is because it is.

read marx faggot

>>68784278
Kill yourself lmao

Marx was a fucking retard
>muh magical utopia
>Muh labour theory of value
>Muh idiotic theories that no economics professor discusses or just lols at
>Muh retard memes

there's a reason there's no communists taken seriously in any economic forum

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>>68780218
Here is everything Marx wrote, read it and get fucking educated you pleb.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/txtindex.htm

>mfw this guy actually thinks that finding huge obvious flaws in the prevailing ideology and realizing the state and private entities indulge in the propagation of false narratives in their own interest is a new thing

>>68784446
I expected OP to make a completely hollow appeal to authority in defence of the ideology he has been indoctrinated for his whole life to believe devoid of any actual criticism of any value, and he ACTUALLY DID IT, THE ABSOLUTE MAD MAN!!!

>>68780218
Why do you care?

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Oh...

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>Quit job thinking I will be definitely developing myself learning programming langueges and other foreign langueges, also preparing for expert degree of english exam. being a neet
>Do nothing except shitpost on 4chan. I know I'm wasting time but I just can't help it. the neglecting instinct is irresponsible.

>>68784578
Marx has been thoroughly debunked

Literally all his shit is retarded. The labour theory of value is the stupidest shit ever. You genuinely need to kill yourself.

Literally no economist would agree that he has ever said anything insightful ever.

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>unironically reading literally anything other than german idealists
Really hope you guys don't do this

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>>68784707
>Marx has been thoroughly debunked

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAA

I can't believe you typed this, didn't you mean to come across as intelligent in this thread? You get your opinions lukewarm right out of the capitalist press! Fucking idiot!

>>68780218
Maybe you should be networking more rather than venting on 4chan.

>>68784890
>muh capitalist press

There's just no arguing with you, is there?

There is no Economist in the 21st century who would call himself a Marxist. You are either trolling or insanely retarded that it's not worth responding to you.

Subjective Value > labour theory of value

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>mfw when people PRETEND to have read Marx to come across as intelligent when they haven't actually read Marx and then come across as idiots when they resort to the idiotic "debunking" criticisms of Marx offered by the capitalist press because they haven't actually read Marx and thus can't come up with any intelligent criticism of his ideas

>>68785025
The labour theory of value makes no sense and Marx hasn't given any evidence for it.

>>68785086
Describe the labour theory of value.

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>>68785025
>mfw some people have ACTUALLY read Marx

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>mfw I have the Wikipedia page open to compare the incoming copy + paste with OP's post, and it will be the same because OP hasn't read Marx and is just talking out of his ass

>>68785136
The idea that things are worth the amount of labour needed to produce them.

>>68785232
And your debunking of this idea?

Reference to Jozef Stalin or Venezuela in 3, 2, 1..

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>>68785303
Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them.

It doesn't really consider the scarcity of different types of labour.

Is digging a hole for 10 hours worth more than a famous painter creating a piece of art in 3 hours?

As I said, this isn't MY debunking, you'd be hardpressed to find a single 21st century economist who considers himself a marxist.

fuck off back to /lit/

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Life gets way better when you start doing opiates, then it becomes shit when you need to take a break and lower your tolerance but whatever

>>68780218
You can only transcend this by not giving a shit about what other people think and create your own values a la Übermensch, leafbro

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>>68785440
>you'd be hardpressed to find a single 21st century economist who considers himself a marxist.

Yanis Varoufakis
Richard D. Wolff

there you have 2, took me about 10 seconds.

>>68785440
>It doesn't really consider the scarcity of different types of labour.

Resource scarcity on markets is intentionally created by capitalists in order to create profits, i.e. the diamond industry. As you defend these ideas, you also claim that this is logical. This is what Marx called surplus value, i.e. false value.

Read Das Kapital. It will take you maybe an hour and then you won't be this stupid anymore.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

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>tfw too smart to read books

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>>68785624
>Resource scarcity on markets is intentionally created by Capitalists

Okay I'm going to stop responding now. You are a retard. Good bye.

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>>68780218
Yes, everyone is full of shit anon.


Truly useful knowledge is kept secret or sold. It's up to you to find it out.

>tfw spent my childhood getting redpilled by reading books about ancient generals and now I'm a power hungry maniac

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>>68785778
Nice rebuke, faggot.
Marxists win, again.

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The Immortal and Eternal Proletarian People's Science of Marxism has once again been victorious over the lies of the bourgeoisie, Comrades!

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>>68786010
>that pic

>>68785025
Capitalists are likely the only people who have read Das Kapital.