Why were they so evil?

>were

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hmm

>our turkish ally genocides armenians
>later our german ally genocides jews
I swear we're the good guys stuck with bad friends..

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Ohh my sweet child, let me show you the evil.

>>68733697
they are good people though

>Ottomans and Habsburgs in MY thread

LEAVE THIS LAND, EVIL EMPIRES!

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the eternal Austrian

>>68733697

the lulz, why else

>>68733891
Suck my dick Habsburger this is all your fault

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>>68733891
>we're the good guys stuck with bad friends..

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>>68733697
the central powers did nothing wrong

>>68736496
>allying with turks right after we had a war with them
I'm so glad my country backstabbed you

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They weren't. when talking about empires using words good or bad is just absurd and idiotic. People consider Rome to be the cradle of western civilization but forgt slavery, bloody conquests and such and even look up to it, but then cry when Ottomans or Germans try to buiuld their empires.

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>>68736541

>>68736437
t. Willy

>>68733891
t. literally Hitler

I know very little about history in general. One of the only things I am sure is that Habsburgers were mentally sick. They took this whole incest thing waaay too far.

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>>68733891
>I swear we're the good guys stuck with bad friends..

Jawohl mein führer

>>68736541
Germany allied with turks because italians refused the first call to war event tough we had a treaty. Once a backstabber always a backstabber eh Luigi?

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>implying any country except for us did anything wrong in WW1

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>>68733697
they were the cutest and all others were evil

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>>68733891
>armenian genocide
>bad

The only bad thing about it is how they didn't finish the job. And the k*rds.

>>68736871
bocsanat :^(

>>68736712
Wrong. You signed a secret treaty with the Ottomans to block the Dardanelles and avoid Allied shipping to Russia. Get your facts straight.

>>68733891
if you think the world would be better with all genocided Armenians+Jews you're delusional. Also Armenian genocide didn't happen.

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>>68736922
Better luck next time, Jumurdzsák.

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>>68736871

Ana is perfect though

>>68733697
>the German Empire was anything but the greatest civilization since Rome
T. Not a Prussia/Germanboo

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>>68737019
>bong flag
>mummyposter was brit

Really makes my tinker winker.

>>68737019
Damn hot. What's her full name?

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>>68737019
she is discount barbra streisand

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>>68737167

Hungarians

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>>68736950
With Armenians I actually wouldn't give a shit. With jews it would have been worst.

>>68733697
germany was not evil.
The rest have in common one thing: they mongol rapebabies descendants

>>68737132

Ana Kasparian

She's Armenian but works for a show literally called The Young Turks

>>68737008
>yumurcak
kek
>>68736950
jews are literally master race tho

>>68733891
t. Josef Hitler

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>>68733697
Because your teacher said so.
Teachers never lie.

>>68737255
>le edgy spaghetti
kek

>>68736561
>when talking about empires using words good or bad is just absurd and idiotic
This. Fucking modern "morality".

>>68737542
Return Istria, Fiume and Dalmatia.

>>68737261
>first to use poison gas
>declared war on everybody
>invaded and raped Belgium

>not evil
yeah ok

>>68733697

Because they were/are savage nations.

>>68737781
BIASED
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>>68737781

B
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>>68737698
>Declared war on everybody

So let's get this straight. We have some balkan nationalist assassinating Franzie boy. Austria delcares war on Serbia. Russia mobilizes, Germany declares war on Russia because treaty obligations And thus unfolds the web of alliances. And the germans were the evil ones, wew laddie.

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>>68737781
t. Serbia

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>>68737781
>That flag
>That post.

>>68737885
Yes they were. They should have let Russia deal with the inbred Habsburgs and mediate a peace treaty.

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>>68737698
>belgium
yehehehehe, poor old little innocent dindu nuffin Belgium

Also how does it feel that in the end Frenchies and the Eternal Anglo fucked you up?

>Germany and Austria-Hungary had only advanced the possibility of negotiating parts of the Trentino and Eastern Friuli, without Gorizia and Trieste.

The Habsburgs were ready to give up their own clay, PLUS you would've gotten Nizza, Corsica, Savoy and Tunis.

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>>68737937
Ah yes, since some Slavshit nationalist murders the grand duke and austria decides to crush this nation of little roaches, this absolutely instable behemoth decides to mobilize it's forces. Germany sees this as aggression and acts to help it's ally. This again provokes frogs which draws brits in it. There's no good sides on such situation nor politics and we're better off if you stop pretendig like there was. WW2 we can argue about but Great war was nothing but the ultimatum of European imperial alliances unfolding into the inevitable conflict.

>>68736950
>implying the holocaust happened

The greatest things are always seen as evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSaa2A7csxM

>>68738083
A slavshit nationalist that was an Austrian citizen and it was only a pretext to attack Serbia and annex it. Fuck off with your stupid logic.
Russia mobilizes to help their only ally in the region.
>There's no good sides
Yes, there is dumbass. Serbia was right. The ultimatum sent by A-H was designed to be rejected and they even agreed to all but one demand, which was to let Austrian officials rule the justice system in Serbia until the Black Hand was dissolved. The Serbs told them to sent this request to the tribunal in The Hague and find an international solution.

Good god, I have had it with Central Powers apologist.

>>68737993
>whatabaoutism
I see the Soviet influence is still strong in Hungary.

Also daily reminder that Anti-Habsburgs were the original sjws.

>anti-noble, anti-aristocratic sentiment to check their privilege
>franz joseph, philip II of spain were the hardest working, ideal bureaucrats
>maria theresa had a shit ton of children
>very rare instances of malicious genetic traits
>lol inbreeding
>most people "getting mad" were due to trauma
>lol inbredding makes ppl dumb and insayne
>t. doesn't understand genetics at all

>spanish black legend
>they hurtin the injuns!!!
>they are evil!!!
>let us be colonizers too, we won't hurt anyone
>we are only good, moral puritans :^)
>catholics are immoral :^^^)

>habsburgs shield Europe from the ottomans
>habsburgs want to unite different ethnicities and uplift them
>ANTI-EUROPEAN DICTATORS!!!
>let's have nations states, let's have devastating wars against the habsburgs and let's ally with niggers and muslims

>all-european catholic imperialism is evil!!!!
>SACRED EGOISM
>SPLENDID EGOISM
>NATURAL BORDERS OF FRANCE
>it's perfectly moral :^^^^)))

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>>68738219
YEAH NO YOU DON'T SEEM TO GET IT DO YOU DENSE PASTAEATING BERBER

There are losers and there are winners. There is no "good" or "evil" Serbia was some irrelevant province in Balkans and Austria wanted to sphere it. Pure great power politics and they may seem unfair but hey that's world you gain or lose. If you can't defend yourself or keep yourself from conflict i doubt you should enjoy the luxury of being independent. You're probably one of those faggots who goes and apologizes to Arabs about crusades.

>>68738372
>splendid isolation

Also the Habsburgs liberated Serbia, re-civlized Serbia, introduced modern values, westernized the whole region, offered education for people like Tesla.

>fuck this shit, slavs r the best :DDD

Europe didn't deserve the Habsburgs or Austria, they were too good for us...

>>68738372

so you were sjw's?

>>68738480

Tesla didnt receive his education in Serbia, so what are you talking about nigga?

>>68738515
No, he received in Austria-Hungary. :D

>>68733697
We're not evil. We just wanted our Memedonia back : (((

>>68737574
ah the toothpaste memester

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>>68738594
Rightfully.

This just shows how ungrateful and horrible Serbs were.

>>68738372
Papists are immoral

>>68738424
the germans encouraged the austrians to do it because they wanted to fight russia before russia gets to strong and developed
you can keep shilling for them but they started the war and wanted one too senpai

>>68738571

but you said the Habsurgs liberated,re-civilised serbia etc etc thus you implied that Tesla received education in Serbia from the Habsburgs.

>>68738744
And they destroyed Russia by unleashing Lenin and now Russia is just a faint shadow of the old empire.

And Russians destroyed the west by unleashing the new cultural marxism.

Communism is the Samson-option of dying empires.

>>68738845
well he did in the Habsburg controlled Serbian parts.

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>evil
the good guys lost desu

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>>68738744
I see no evil in this desu, Russians were an oppressive empire with a lot of indigeneous people under them.

>>68738903

That's not how it works

Croatia is Croatia, Austro-Hungary is Hungary.

Anyway, you implied he studied in Serbia and that thanks to Haburgs ,the education he received in Serbia, got him where he ended up.

>>68739327
The king of Hungary was the king of Croatia. Or did you forget

We didn't do nuffin.

Seriously we were the good guys.

Everything bad since then happened because the bad guys won WW1.

>>68739653
Germany can't bully you any more you don't have to lie for them anymore

>>68739545

The king of Hungary was the king of Habsburgs.Or did you forget.

Anyway,like I said, this is not the point here, the point is the one i summed up in the last sentence here >>68739327
firstly raised in the last sentence here >>68738515

>>68739327
Graz aint't Croatia, my mamaliga-savoring friend.

And I've never implied he received education in Serbia.

>westernized the whole region, offered education for people like Tesla

Was what I said.

>>68739879

Untermensch, such slidings dont work with me.

Let me repeat

Your Original Post >>68738480

>Also the Habsburgs liberated Serbia, re-civlized Serbia, introduced modern values, westernized the whole region, offered education for people like Tesla.

So basically you are talking of what the Habsburgs did to Serbia(Subject in cause)

>liberated Serbia
>re-civlized Serbia
>westernized the whole region(implies Serbia)

and the cherry on the cake
>offered education for people like Tesla

Since the subject in cause is Serbia and Tesla is serbian, it implies Tesla received education in liberated,re-civilised,with introduced modern values and westernised SERBIA

>Graz aint't Croatia, my mamaliga-savoring friend.

Never said it was, however I said this is irrelevant 2 times already as it was not the original subject. here >>68739327 >>68739738

You are welcome.

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>>68737937
>honouring alliances is bad
>italian flag

>>68739738
If hungary is Austria-hungary then Croatia is Austria-hungary too because of the personal union

They were the good guys though.

>>68740065
Now this is some grade-A autism here, Ion, not gonna lie, but you're fundamentally wrong.

>of what the Habsburgs did to Serbia(Subject in cause)
And the region and Tesla. Since this is a complex sentence with three different objects.

And the Habsburgs did liberate Serbia Serbia as well, numerous times they fought for it with the Turks, from the end of the XVII. century to the end of the XVIII. century (II. Joseph's campaigns) and helped Serbs to gain independence by putting enormous, constant pressure on the Ottoman Empire along with Russia.

And they had the independent Serbia in their sphere of influence too, but obviously had a more direct influence on the lives of Austrian subjects, such as Nikola Tesla.

>>68739653
This.

Germany, Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire were doing far less evil in the world than France, Great Britain and the US at the time

>>68740263

True.

>>68740419

>And the Habsburgs did liberate Serbia Serbia as well,
>And they had the independent Serbia in their sphere of influence too

I don't care what they did, this is another topic.I am lecturing you in sentence logic.

You said that thanks to Habsburgs Serbia was modernised enough for Tesla to learn IN IT.

Which is wrong since Tesla didnt learn it Serbia, and his only relationship to Serbia was that he was of serbian origin.So you see, it's irrelevant what Habsburgs did bad/good to Serbia.

>>68733697
WTF, i hate myself now???

>>68733697
Literally dindu nuffin wrong to be fair

Should've genocide more Servers tho

>>68740610
>You said that thanks to Habsburgs Serbia was modernised enough for Tesla to learn IN IT.


Never said that, you dumb autist.

Do you not understand what an enumeration is?

> liberated Serbia, re-civlized Serbia, introduced modern values, westernized the whole region, offered education for people like Tesla.

=====

1./ Liberated Serbia.

2./ Re-civilized Serbia.

3./ Introduced modern values to the whole region.

4./ Westernized the whole region.

5./ Offered education for people like Tesla.

5 segments, 3 different objects.

>>68738676
i cri evertime ;_;
>>68739068
me in the middle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Ali_%C3%87elikten

>Reminder that we would have no problems in the world if the Ottoman Empire was not cut up

Seriously. Roaches were good at keeping Islam from going bananas.

The whole war was Austria's fault btw

>G*rmans
Literally autistic, dangerous manchildren

>Austria-Hungary
Highly incompetent, too big for its own good.

>Ottomans
Proto-t*rks so have a guess

>Bulgaria
Cinnamon roll too good for this world ;_;

Nobody ever listens, but if we want to advance as a species then destroying Austria is a must. They have plunged the world into utter destruction two times in the last century, and they WILL do it again. They use the germans as scapegoats, because the germans are simple robots that will always do their masters bidding. The austrians are the actual jews. Do you ever wonder why you almost never see austrians on int? It`s because they are plotting their next step. I can`t even imagine what the new lefty prime minister Van der Bellen will plans for Europe. The entire refugee crysis is masterminded by the austrians who want to trigger a civil war in Germany, so that the German Federation collapses and divides into differeny duchies. Bavaria will be incorporated into Austria and the austrians will once again be the rulers of the germanosphere and entire Europe if their plan succeeds. But if it doesn`t, then the entire world will just think that Germany is just sperging out again and bomb it to the ground, while vile austrians just laugh in their lederhosen and retreat to the Alps for a few decades to drink beer, yodel and hatch their new insidious plan to destroy Europe. WAKE UP! THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN IF WE DO NOT STOP THEM NOW!

>>68741560
Leave austria alone

>>68741476
GREAT post actually

>>68740832

>Never said that, you dumb autist.

You did indirectly.Already explained it to you.

>Do you not understand what an enumeration is?

I do,but theres a difference between knowing what something is and knowing how to use something, you seem to have problems at 2nd one. you dont understand what references are, and i explained it to you.I know what you meant from the first place, yet someone that does not know that Tesla didnt study in Serbia at all,wouldn't.

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>>68741476

>>68741782
The germans are actualy the good guys. It`s the austrians that desire the destruction of Europe so they can rise from its ashes and start the new Holy Roman Empire.

>>68742412
I see you believe pro Germany propaganda

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>>68742412
The what now?

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>>68741560
excellent post

>>68733891
>

>>68742766
It really boggles my mind why no-one gives a single shit about Austria. The last two world wars were both caused by people that were at some moment austrian citizens. And no-one bats an eye. They have caused the deaths of hundreds of millions of innocent people, yet everone thinks that the germans are evil murerous childraters. Do you sometimes wonder why there are so few austrians on 4chan? It`s because they think that they are superior to us peasants. The ones you see here are german immigrants. Do you ever wonder why the swiss are so worried about defence, why they have conscription, mined bridges and tunnels? Do you really think its the french or italians they fear? The swiss know. They know what the austrians are capable of, and thats the real reason why they are not in the EU. It all starts making sense when you realise that the austrians are capable of things you can not even start to imagine. Why do you think that the Balkans is such a constant shitshow, protip its not the turks.

>>68744225
Top kek 99% of europeans are peasants that think they are better than others even though they are a generation or less from the potato farm.

>>68744604
At least we had potatoes Seamus O`Connor

>>68745010
Man the irish are the lowest of the low

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>germany could've won the WWI
>i would be german citizen, speaking german, learning german history
>feelsbadman

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>>68737781
Straight from the Serbs mouth

>>68745479
>learning german history
nobody does that

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>>68746685
b-but teutons are based

Austria, reconquer Friuli pliz

>>68747768
col cazzo

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>>68737937
>flag
>post

what the fuck do you mean we weren't evil
we literally did nothing wrong
delete this thread NOW

>>68748286

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>>68733697
literally allied with the turks

>"the good guys lost"

>>68748408
This lmao
literally best buddies with the country that destroyed the byzantine empire and ruined the balkans forever

>>68748408
>>68748542
stay mad faggots

>>68737781
Your country was literally a fucking terrorist state back then.

>>68733697
really makes you think, huh...

>>68749727
>stay mad
but we won

>>68741560
oy vey he knows.

>>68737167
uuhuhuhuuuuuhuhuuhuuuu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VQdVA2hjsA

We din du nuffin,
srbe na vrbe desu

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GODDAMNIT
WHY DIDNT WE FUCKING WIN
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

>>68733697
>Austria-Hungary
>evil
literally "make love not war" the country
kill yourself and return Sudtirol

>>68745479
>>68747529
KILL YOURSELF
IF YOU LOVE THE TEUTONS SO MUCH COME SUCK MY DICK LIKE THEY DID OUR KING AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN IRRELEVANT DUCHY SOMEWHERE

>>68757945
because you surround yourself with useless allies, idiots and sandniggers
"shackled to a corpse" the kaiser said

you deserved to lose anyway for allying yourself with the turkish ottoman empire, probably the biggest cancer of europe after you(r ancestors who brought down the roman empire)

>>68733697
Austro-German autism and inferiority complex

Bulgarian butthurt and delusions of grandeur

Ottoman butthurt at having lost all of their clay and power and being relegated to being the shitbucket of yurop.

>>68757980
epic, simply epic

>>68754000
you sure won those triples, for the rest you benefited from the winning side

>>68758062
>>68758101
>t. Milorad Milutinovic ethnic canadian citizen

>>68758038
the roman empire wasnt even brought down by germanics, infact, romans called everything behind the rhine germanic
so those who invaded rome might aswell have been slavs

>>68758199
Were Hitler and Wilhelm Slavs too?

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>>68758174
Nope, try again

I simply happen to absolutely despise subhuman kraut fucks (as well as Habsburglars) and all who ally with them.

>>68758276
>t. Zheng Luao

>>68736950
t. cenk

>>68758252
So...how did we jump to this conclusion?

>>68758199
400 years of war and nigger-tier behavior, then your ancestors are allowed to migrate and live within the empire. What's the first thing they do? They fucking destroy it from the inside. Can't win a single battle against the Huns and other Eurasian invaders. In the end, it had to be a Roman leading a coalition army to kick Attila out of Western Europe.

And let's not mention Spain and North Africa. Once the berbers and the arabs attacked it took them just 5 years to conquer ALL of Iberia and cross the Pirenei, while the reconquista lasted 700 years.

Germanic people are niggers.

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>>68758276

>>68758276
>>68758062
t. Server

>>68733697
Only the Turks were evil, the rest of them should have won the war and the world to this day would have been a much better place.

>>68733891
Germans genocide jews... under Austrian leadership

>>68737255
How would it have been worse?