HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>le free college meme
Though I guess you're getting at Englishmen shooting themselves in the foot.

It's not free here. It's 2k a year, which is still much better than Englel. And we are one of the more expensive countries in the EU I think

>>68679307
Is this university or primary-secondary school fees?

>>68679307
it's not free in the university, it's like 1,3k

>>68679513
wow, that's a fortune in a country like portugal

guess our 2k aint that bad after all

>>68679426
>>68679513
it is free to study in Scotland if you wanted to.
Read the map

you know, the swiss get all the benefits of EU but don't give anytthing back

This also doesn't factor in cost of living. With cost of living, it costs pretty much the same for me to study in Finland, Germany, or Iceland vs. stay put in the US, even though tuition is free for Americans studying in Europe. And I'd have a harder time landing a job.

Also the price on the box in the US is never what you actually pay. Especially if you're poor.

>>68679307
>free

Did the buildings just materialize out of thin air?

Do they magically have electricity and water and Internet?

Are the professors working for janny's wages?

>>68679307
>Wanting a Scottish education.

I'd rather pay for quality than eat shit for free.

But our universities are actually good, soooooo

>>68679910
>but don't give anytthing back
what do you mean, all of the EU millionaires get to hide their money there

>>68680531
You know what they mean, dingus

>>68679910
Both Switzerland and Norway pay money to the EU

>>68679426
You are most expensive one. Only in UK and Netherlands you pay for college as European in other countries its either for free or you get paid for attending

>>68680939
Hmm. That's crazy.

But I'm happy about that, even as a student. I don't want to fund students who take 6 years to get their degree in Celtic languages and what have you.

>>68680978
Your government still pays most of it tho, i think price per semester is like 10k € students pay 2

My sister does European Studies in Netherlands

>>68681041
True, I heard the same. It's good that the government makes it affordable, but at the same time expensive enough to dissuade people from taking too long to get their degrees. It's fair.

>>68679307
Small price to pay for freedom.

>>68681075
>>68681041
What uni btw?

>>68681103
not sure somewhere in Haag i think, tho she had to move to Rotterdam because they had issues with housing (Turk owner kept turning off electricity and shit) and couldnt find house in the city, apparently there is 1 000 000 people per square meter

In Spain is not free.

don't think you'll find anyone who will defend tuition fees here

it's bullshit and nobody's happen about it desu

>>68681156
Ah, that's HBO study, a tier below uni.

>Rotterdam

My city, I'll look out for a qt speaking Slovak

>>68680631
this

I can't even think of a single prestigious university that's not British or American so we still win.

>>68681289
You lose because the tuition rate in your shitty country is 9K for every uni, even the shitty ones (which the vast majority of your unis are)

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>>68679307
>continental european universities

Into the trash.

>>68680531
Just like how it costs money to drive on your roads right? They don't materialize out of thin air either.

>>68681326
You can just get a student loan, and you don't have to pay it back until you're earning enough money.

Not a terrible deal.

>>68680978
> I don't want to fund students who take 6 years to get their degree in Celtic languages

Isn't paid for though.

First of all, you get a set number of state financed years and if you exhaust it, you are done.

And if you aren't proceeding at least half the pace you are supposed to, or you are in the bottom 30% of the students, you have to pay.

Also most dumb, unnecessary humanistic shits either have an extremely low number of allowed students per year or they are entirely pay-only, although there are more things that should be cut, I admit.

Our education is far from perfect, but this isn't a bad system.

Also if you finish your studies and don't work in Hungary a set number of years at least in the x years following your graduation, you'll have to pay it all back.

I will defend free higher tier education with reasonable limitations, because Hungarians lived under socialism for fairly long and were an agrarian society before that, so families couldn't afford to support students like in the Netherlands, where the people are traditionally wealthy.

>>68681289
Credit given where credit is due, you have the best gender studies' majors in the world.

It's not free here.
It's around 2-7k€ per year, depends on your parents' income

>>68681326
Jokes on you, the military can pay for your tuition!

>>68681402
>9k a year for tuition
>not a bad deal

don't become a business man

>>68681211
They make money for our education system and dissuade people from just fucking around at uni (with varying success, admittedly).

>>68679910
it's the other way around.
The swiss and Norgayians get to pay all the money EU wants them to pay and have to accept all retarded regulations EU forces on them but they cannot vote in any of the matter because they're not a member.

>>68681413
I want everybody who wants to go to university and is smart enough to go, to be able to go. At 2k a year and with student loans with extremely low interest rates, that is possible.

>>68681396
Roads require upkeep, idiot, that doesn't just happen.

>>68679307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCbFY1JH7k

>>68681700
meant to quote >>68680454

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>>68681700
>Free

>>68681451
The way I see it, there are actually two different type of universities in the UK.

There are the big, famous top tier unis, the whole world is flocking to and you have mediocre ones that aren't at all different from what we have here, and we can beat a University of Newcastle and ones like that at least.

The same way, your lower tier education is extremely polarized too. Britain has a more differentiating system, just like the USA, and since you were the victors of every major war, you are the leaders of the world and the universities reflect that.

But the British society is way less egalitarian than the average European and there's a huge gap between the elite and the common people.

>>68681597

Yes, that's a good system too.

That money is more like a tax really, you only pay it back when you earn over a certain amount and they take a percentage of your wages every month.

If you lose your job or whatever you don't pay and no one's coming to break your knees over the debt.

Stupid English hahahhahahahhahahahahga

>>68681431
You pay back 9% of everything you earn over £21,000. Costs more than what you have to pay in most of the EU but not unreasonable to pay back, and you get a better education, assuming you go to a decent university and don't fritter it on a masters in hairdressing theory or something ridiculous like that.

>>68681246
She speaks Englisn and learning dutch so you prolly wont hear her speak slovak tho

>>68681700
>Living in Poland

>>68681997
>not living in Poland

Paid tuition fees here in Aus, Western Australia, roughly $1000 AUD per unit (typically around $8k a year, depends on the course). But that's only really for non-citizens, Citizens can apply for a HECS- debt and not pay anything until later in life when they're earning a decent wage.

>>68681549
This. Also, lots of Swiss people leave their money in our supermarkets.

>>68679347

>Englishmen shooting themselves in the foot

Guns are illegal in England, impossible.

Why would anyone go to Scotland to study though?

>>68682998
Bad meme.

>>68679307
we only pay it back when we can afford it though. it's a better solution IMO

>>68683066
Because it's free

>scottish students get free education in either Scotland or England
>English students can't study in Scotland
>muh English oppresion

>>68683189
Ah yes, I forget that those going to uni have no idea that work is a thing and that you get paid for doing it.

>>68683066
If you wanna study in British unis, you can do your undegrad for free in the good Scottish unis (i.e. Edinburgh/St Andrews/Glasgow) and then if you wanna do postgrad as well you can easily go into Oxbridge/Imperial/LSE for your PhD if you want the "name"

British uni grads
>make 40k starting(GBP)
>tons of jobs
>4.6% unemployment(full employment)
>usually working at fortune 500 companies

Scottish uni grads
>40% unemployment rate
>35% heroine addiction rate
>65% alcoholism rate
>largest employer is the orange soft drink factory paying minimum wage

>>68679307
In Spain edumacations is el retardo so it better be libre

>>68683066
Edinburgh uni is one of the best.

>>68683189
>>68683066
It's only free for Scottish people.

>>68680631
EU btfo out of the water

>>68681700
smart fucker
>Russia Today UK
why is this a thing?

>>68679593
1,3k per year isn't too bad.

If you're poor you get a scolarship.

I went to graduate school in Tallinn, Estonia. It was 1000 euro per semester.

>>68686897
Dunno, but its one of the better outlets for news

>>68684112
Nah, its free for EU citizens minus English, Welsh and Northern irish iirc. (Maybe Norn Ire. gets reduced fees)

hahahahha

>>68688372
How common are student loans in the UK minus Scotland? At one time I wanted to attend Aberystwyth, but it was way to costly

>>68688424
>too
Damned keyboard

>>68679307
Tuition is technically free here, but over the last 10 years they've upped the "student contribution" (allegedly for "student services") to something like €3000.

>>68688424
I don't know what you mean... if you go to uni outside of scotland in the UK, almost everyone takes out a loan with the student loans company

>>68688525
>almost everyone takes out a loan with the student loans company
That's what I wanted to know. So you are in the same boat as us with the loan debt.

>>68688559
Yes, pretty much, although i dont think its quite as bad yet. Yet being the operative word, I think they want to increase fees again
Interest is capped at inflation, debt is written off after 25 years, you only pay back gradually increasing amounts based on earnings

>>68679307

I'm off to Scotland lads what do I study

>>68688559
>So you are in the same boat as us with the loan debt.

Sort of, but the repayments are much more lenient. Student Loans are done as a % above a certain wage (I think it starts at 8% for money earned above 21k) and loans don't effect credit score.

>>68681700
30-ish £ a week to fly from Poland to England??

>>68688720
Depending on the time of year it's possible.

https://www.skyscanner.net/transport/flights/uk/pl/170119/170120/cheapest-flights-from-united-kingdom-to-poland-in-january-2017.html?adults=1&children=0&adultsv2=1&childrenv2=&infants=0&cabinclass=economy&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&ref=flights_seo_landing_page

>>68688581
>>68688608
The interest is capped the moment you sign your life away. I don't know about it being written off after an amount of years, that's a very good question. I'll look into that.
>you only pay back gradually increasing amounts based on earnings.
Now that's a good system.

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>tfw going to a uni with 40k tuition per year

>>68688771
cont.

After graduation, you are given a 90 day grace period. After that you get a $400+ bill in the mail. It's absurd, nobody can afford to pay that straight out of university. You can get the payment deferred for one year, that's what I did. I think it's sad that my rent and my loan bills are the same. fuck me.

>>68688771
>>68688818
Ours is essentially a tax on graduates in all but name. Every financial year I get a letter saying how much was added on in interest, how much I paid back and how much is left. Doesn't really go any further than that.

>>68688597
feminist dance therapy t. dubs

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>>68688854
nice trips

>>68683316
Edinburgh is one of the best universities in the world.

>>68688940
Yepper! St. Andrews in a fine university also. I had the privilege in going to a conference there. Highly recommend

>>68679347
>le buttmad seppo
yes good goy, le socialism boogeyman is bad
enjoy your 350k tuition fees that you will never stop paying

>>68689002
Visiting during a conference is no basis of determining the fineness of a university.

>>68689088
I agree that college can certainly be cheaper, but tuition fees on their own aren't the issue people make them out to be.

>>68689100
>Visiting during a conference is no basis of determining the fineness of a university.
Believe it or not, but conferences are very important in academia.

I have achieved complete and true enlightenment

>>68679347
american students abroad require european teachers to slow down to the point it feels like a high school class
we dont pay for the diploma here, we pay for the class

>>68680631
Not even meem'ing, but what's with you guys and your obsession with Apple products?

>Visiting friend in Memedon
>Meet him after class
>Literally EVERYONE there has an ipad or a macbook for studying
>EVERY. SINGLE. CLASS uses standardized Apple computers
>Computer lab and library is just a row of 2005 Macs
>Think it's just a weird coincidence
>Now we're in Manchester
>Picking up friend from class
>Got there early, so fucking around in halls
>Go to the library
>Macs everywhere, and they're all from 2005

Literally why?

>>68689302
The UK is literally just a US puppet that we use to export goods to now.

>>68689302
>>68689419
It wasn't even the use of Apple products that got me. It was the fact that the classrooms all used modern, 2010-ish Macs, and the libraries and computer labs all used brick Macs that must've weighed 20 pounds each. Like one part of the school progressed, while the other half of the school just got lost in some sot of weird time stasis.

Same for the school in Manchester too.

Just the darnedest thing.

>>68689217
That is because the American school system dumb students down as opposed to pushing them succeed. My cousin is in high school right now and she says that if you are smart and truly advance yourself, the other students physically threaten you and constantly call you a nerd. Almost like being smart is wrong. Then again look at our culture of ignorance.
I was lucky enough to go to a private school where that disease did not influence us. I am in the second year of my Ph.D atm.

>>68690849
>she says that if you are smart and truly advance yourself, the other students physically threaten you and constantly call you a nerd

Kek. That's what she gets for going to a shitty nonselective public high school.

>>68690849
>I am in the second year of my Ph.D atm.
What are you studying pham?

>>68690849
>if you are smart and truly advance yourself, the other students physically threaten you and constantly call you a nerd.
that happens in almost every country tho, but only among children or pre-teens AFAIK
also children that constantly show that they struggle less than the rest might get more homework from teachers.

>>68690849
>>68691250
also it pissed me off as a kid when teachers gave higher grades to retard kids that barely knew anything because they "worked hard" and they made things harder on me because i didnt struggle with basic shit.
like what kind of fucking basis are you setting for the grades? fucking pisses me off, they basically encourage either being a NATURAL IDIOT or ACTING LIKE ONE.
so you're pretty smart? congrats, you will have to work twice more than your classmates. shame that you dont have a double digit IQ, you could've enjoyed lower quantities of work and higher grades.
you're supposed to evaluate the students objectively you fucking cunt.

>>68691350
Life isn't about grades you mong. They were pushing you so you could develop as a person.

>>68681396
>being this dumb

>>68691502
>Life isn't about grades
it is here.
hell i would rather have harder classes where everyone is treated equally than that retarded unequal system.

>>68691709
Please don't tell me you fell for the smart-but-lazy meme.

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mfw I actually got paid to go to university

>>68689302
My school used Apple computers too.

Utterly useless waste of time bothering to teach using them.

>>68679307
It's 450€ per year here but the State pays for me. So it's free

BTW every student from Luxembourg gets a 7k eurobux scholarship per year, just to attend university.

We Belgians only get 2k/year :(

>>68691350
Retard detected

>>68691845
>>68691805
>>68691741
Fuck you euros. Can't wait for trump to shit up NATO.

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>>68691911
>t. 200k in debt

i'm crying lmao

>>68691973
Hope you know how to speak russian

>>68681428
Read the caption again

>>68679307

With the payback rules it essentially just becomes another tax.

>>68691805
same here, I only have to pay for a regional tax that I get paid back at the end of the year, and a 2K € scholarship for which I only need to pass enough exams

>>68686897
russian propaganda

>>68688357
fuck off putin

>>68684112
nope, free for euros as well, just not the other home nations

>>68683316
excellent post

Moving to Britain to study in Swansea soon 2bh lads.

It's not free here, either.
It's something like 1500€/year
STILL better than England.

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>>68680631
Get a load of this guy.

>>68694937
I pay (my parents pay) 2300€ per year for public university.

>>68688887
>one off

>>68694459
same lad

>>68689119
What are you on lad

I had to pay 1500 euros a year, but got 270 euros a month from the gubment to study at a top 60 uni in the world.

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English unis are bare bants though

t.Cambridge student

>>68679307
>usa
>paid 28k for a BA from in-state school
>BA is my ticket out
>not paying that shit back

>>68679307
lel

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>tfw projected student debt to be near 200k when done with uni

A-at least Im STEM right