What happens here?

>>68586345
Чyкчи eбyт вceх

>>68586345
All I know is the last remnant of the Roman empire ended there.

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comfy

>rain (oceanic microclimate)
>forest
>tea
>nuts
>boatloads of small fish
>silly people with big noses that come up with ridiculous contraptions
>hardcoar dancing

>>68586586
Post more. What kind of stone is it? Reminds me of german crossed wooden houses

>>68586345
Endless fucking rain in spring and fall.
And a very humid summer that you can't even breathe.

>>68586345
white people desu

>>68587650
What's the humidity like compared to Dixieland?
I basically swam to school during the spring and fall.

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>>68586345

this on the mountains >>68586586
and pic related on the seaside, nothing exceptional, love it here though

>>68586345
Trebizond clay

>>68586345
I am a real Laz, ask away dear Natasha

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>>68586608
And guns.

>>68587782
Post pics of your guns.

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Greeks.

Greeks happen there.

>>68587705
I don't know how hard it rains there but let me give you an example, vit d deficiency is too common here.
Last week it rained for 5 days straight, now there's a fucking storm outside.

>>68587909
wow, interesting map. I wonder what happened to those Armenians and Greeks

>>68587973
They were peacefully removed and taken back to their homelands, of course

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>>68587824
living stereotype reporting in

>>68587973
Horrendously massacred and raped.
Nah just joking, they are assimilated and turned muslim. Laz people are one of the most Turk nationalist and jihadist people you can see.

>>68588063

How do you get guns?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Pontus

It could have been so beautiful

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>>68588063
These people don't look like turks, explain.

>>68588078
Laz living in Lazistan here. >>68588063

This is correct for most of the Pontic people. (residents of the area in OP's pic) Those guys do tend to take things too far.
Islamic extremism doesn't exist in the actual Laz community (east of Ardeşen to Batumi), but we are indeed obsessed with the new republic. Nothing wrong with loving your country IMO desu, as long as you don't take it too far.

>>68588181
Laz aren't Turks, Laz are ancient Caucasian people, been there 2000 years before Turks. But we don't mind being called Turks.

>>68588181
Northern turkey is full of laz and circassians. They are assimilated greeks and slavs from pontus kingdom.

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>>68586345

>>68588273
>>68588285
Makes me sad, seeing there are still fucking white males living in Anatolia.

>>68588105
We make them ourselves, look up "Ardeşen" for example. Practically a gun factory city. Every neighborhood has local gunmakers. The mentality here is similar to 2nd amendment of the US constitution.

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Koksal Baba

>>68587973
Most of Greeks just assimilated without a fight, didn't really care about the country, or at least pretended to. Unfortunately almost all of them also didn't teach their kids Greek. Should've kept it but then they might have pissed off the country and got rekt. Kind of a dilemma.

>>68588105
Getting a permit isn't that difficult, especially if you have an excuse for hunting.

Also my family is from Trabzon and my dad told me how there were secret weapon manufacturing ateliers under some farms. They apparently did fairly competent copies of even sub-machine guns similar to MAC-10.

Not a surprise there are legit gun factories there now.

>>68588340

How? Do they copy existing guns? Also how do you get the ammo?

>>68588285
>Laz and Circassians are assimilated greeks and slavs from pontus kingdom

That's a very uneducated AKP tier opinion you have there, unless you are memeing.

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>>68588063
10/10 teşekkürler uşağım.

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>>68588370
*record scratch*

>>68588370
I was joking obviously but actually the Christian ones left for Greece with the population exchange, though a few had already started leaving for Greece before that due to Turkish erm actions

the Muslims ones just stayed, there's still a Greek-speaking village in northern Turkey

>>68588285
lol, nothing to do with Greeks and Slavs. if anything the Greeks assimilated the likely Caucasian-speaking locals in northwest Anatolia

the Circassians have nothing to do with the Russians either, they were locals who adopted Islam due to Russian expansion and got expelled to the Ottoman empire

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>>68588354
>liberate
We aren't oppressed m8, we like our neighbors and they like us.

We've been "Persians", "Romans", "Greeks", "Byzantines", "Ottomans", now "Turks". No problem with any of them.

The Laz people has seen many empires come and go, they really are ancient people. (we wuz kangz n shit)
At this point our mindset towards dominant cultures is something like "Yeah ok. Fine by us as long as you don't try to pull anything on us. In case you fuck up we'll be here long after you are gone anyway."

>>68588386
We have gun factories here, buy raw goods from there and assemble them at home. Bullets are built in those factories as well.

>>68588686
Wow I didn't think there was that many greek diaspora in america.

>>68588687
fucking shitskins, thanks for genociding the other shitskins the pontics and forcing them in exile here.

you've taken a bigass shitskin turd on us

>>68588687

We need this in the Aegean, we're 100% cucks here.

>>68588661
>>68588686
>>68588736

please stop shitposting and leave, this is a good thread

>>68587973
probably the same thing that happened to Turks in Greece and other Balkan states

>>68587973
>I wonder what happened to those Armenians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_diaspora#/media/File:ArmenianDiaspora.png

>and Greeks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

>>68588861
forgot one link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide

How do i get a gf from there? Girls from the mediterranean are too trashy for me.

>>68588789
Yes you do. Guns help maintain order and justice. There are some seasonal worker coloreds here, none of them dare do anything stupid because they know what's going to happen.

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>>68588789

>>68588790
>>68588861
>responding seriously to a joke

btw, the ones in Western Thrace are still around. I wonder what happened to the Greeks in Istanbul, Imbros and Tenedos though

Turks can't escape their genocidal mindset :^)

>>68588921
have money

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>>68588902
nothing wrong with removing some shitskins from my beautiful anatolia

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>>68589064
:( I dont want golddiggers. I want a nice and kind gf.

>>68589121
we don't like filthy westerners and kafirs.

>>68588921
You are not going to like it unless you are a conservative man (stressing the MAN part)

>>68588063
the nose never lies

>>68589151
WOW, why cant i be turkish too?

>>68589159
I'm very conservative.

>>68588181
because they are georgian(laz)

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>>68589146
>sandmonkeys
why do you hate yourself and your people?

>>68589121
why won't you get norwegian gf ? since norway is richass country there are obviously less golddiggers

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>>68589278
hol up, you is tellin me you believe in allah n shit, cut off your dick and your not a sandmonkey?
you is crazy turk

>>68589242
>>68589308
because he is so ugly and autist that white girls won't ever look at him. so he goes for shitskin golddiggers.

A cockroach infestation, just like the rest of Anatolia and southern Thrace.

>>68589219
Good, make it obvious that you are a conservative and a real man -Laz women hate feminine men and even bully them- and you are on a good start :\

>>68589308
Because im conservative and all the other conservative women are insane christians.

This is now a Karadeniz thread with our ushaks. Butthurt west greeks and iç anadolu chomars bls go. :-DDDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kb4tQB_Q6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZCsYWRu4bI

>>68589056
Wasn't Istanbul Greeks are the ones who got population exchanged? This is the point at witch Constantinople got guaranteed rekt by shitskins BTW. One of my French teachers in Istanbul was "Rum". She knew "Rumca" which I'm assuming is Greek. She looked completely normal from outside so I'm assuming some people assimilated instead of leaving somehow. I though the exchange was mandatory. Maybe her family wasn't in Istanbul back then.

more disgusting roaches

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>>68589327
>your not a sandmonkey?
yes, i am a sandmonkey and a proud one
i'm proud that my ancestors fucked your mathers so hard that you niggers look darker than us

>>68589383
why would anyone want to marry someone from foreign country...you guys will have such radical views from each other that the family simply won't last long it's a waste of time.

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>>68588063
That better be tea

>>68589422
Okay what do you mean by conservative?
By conservativ i mean that i support conservative values like:
-men and women should behave in a certain -way and crossing those are wrong
-the man is the familiy head
-some roles at home and in the job market is for -men and some are supposed to be for women
-men should cry and give in to feelings and such
-anti-degenerate

I dont mean like being a women beater and scummy guys who predate on women.

>>68589434
and you are looking for muslim gold digger girl ? very...unwise
>>68589484
ehm sorry to interrupt you but greeks were always dark...tehy are mediterarean if you don't you can google ancient art of alexander macedon he looks as dark as the fellas on that picture
>>68589422
i know laz people some still are christian pretty cool

>>68589595
yeah, we're darker maybe to north Europeans, but not monkeys from the middle shit, gimme a fucking break. you monkies all look the same to me anyhow.

>>68588687
>>68588736
Alexandros pls, we helped you rid Constantinople of the Latin invaders, but we can only do so much. Laz population is like 200k even today. Sorry we don't breed like the untermensch.

>>68589586
he means that you have to be not only conservative but man as well by that i mean you should be dominant, not afraid to get into arguments and backing up everything you say and at least have bit of charisma to influence your children's and your wife's opinion, you know the qualities that were common for men 100 years ago and below until liberalism cucked you

>>68589672
whatever the fuck you are, nothing good has ever come out of that area you're living, only criminals and goatfuckers

>>68589726
shut up, laz are part of kartvelian race - georgian.
we had nice time fucking persians and turks while we were united

>>68589564
It is, the best too thanks to climate here. Our tea plants are the only ones in the world experiences full blown winters. Snow helps protect our plants from floral diseases therefore we don't need to use any chemicals. Rly gud.

>>68589586
Yeah, correct on all points. Basically be a decent patriarchal gentleman. If you overdo it they do tend to let you know anyway.

>>68589595
Yeah my relatives in Batumi are Orhodox Christians.

>>68589885
exactly, criminals

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Too bad Turkey joined NATO back when, Stalin would have taken those
It could be richest part of Caucasus with resorts and shit, without turks

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>>68589726

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>>68589962
>communism
>prosperity

People of that area have perhaps one of the most anti-communist mindsets you can think of. If there is one thing that Pontics, Laz and Georgians agree on it is that communism is cancer.

>>68587973
Peaceful relocation

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>>68589945
since when removing kebab was a crime ?

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>>68590093
i'm so proud to be georgian.. damn

>>68590093
who said anything about removing kebab, I'm talking about moving here and murdering people and then filling our jails

>>68590093
>1100s

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>68589440
>Wasn't Istanbul Greeks are the ones who got population exchanged

nah, the Istanbul Greeks are the ones who weren't exchanged (along with Imbros and Tenedos). they left due to pogroms and higher taxes that targeted Jews and Christians

Rumca, language-wise, means Greek yes

and yes, Istanbul today is full of Eastern Turks and Kurds. I'm guessing the old Turkish inhabitants would prefer to have middle-class Jews and Greeks as neighbors :))

>>68590386
hi greekbro

im from smyrna

pls save us

>>68590283
I'm not sure why you think Georgians in Greece commit that much crime, proportionally. maybe you're just biased:

>Σε αντίθεση με την επιkρατούσα γενιkή ιδέα ότι την μεγαλύτερη εγkλη¬ματιkότητα παρουσιάζουν οι Αλβανοί μετανάστες, η ανάλυση των στοι¬χείων υποδειkνύει ότι αναλογιkά προς τον πληθυσμό τους την μεγαλύ¬τερη εγkληματιkότητα παρουσιάζουν οι Γιουγkοσλάβοι kαι έπονται οι Ιραkινοί, οι Ρουμάνοι, οι Πολωνοί, οι Βούλγαροι kαι μετά οι Αλβανοί.

Yugoslavs, Iraqis, Romanians, Poles, Bulgarians, Albanians. not even Albanians get top spot despite stereotypes

>>68590422
>fucking Rum gavurs, send them all to hell Ataturk
>halp, we're being flooded with Kurds and shitskin Turks

you're on your own lol

>>68590513
fugg :D:D:D

but in smyrna we have lots of white-ish qts

dont u want them?

>>68590482
today is your lucky day

http://lathropithikia.wordpress.com/

>>68590283
because they are radical muslims
few centuries earlier they were radical christians and they were doing same thing to muslims what they are doing now to you,
even in turkey laz have stereotypes of biggest radicals and aggresive just like we were like 20 years ago until liberalism knocked the doors the problem is not with laz people but with your politics-liberalism, it weakens you and makes you pathetic and sensitive if you think i am bs-ing you, in abkhazian war we were fighting against literally every caucasian nation except azeris + russia and fought for like 2 years while in 2008 when we were under heavy liberalism propaganda war ended in 5 days coincidence ?
>>68589962
agreed
>>68590061
yes so what ? most nations soviet russia invaded had anti-communist mindsets but yet they co-existed for almost century what you mean by *laz and georgian* georgian is given simplified name of kartvelian race which includes laz mingrelians abkhazians and so on.

>>68590283
>>68590482
I didn't even know that there is a considerable Georgian population in Greece, wow

>>68590556
I've been with cuties from Aydin and Antalya. I need to cover the whole seaboard at some point

>>68590717
smyrna is the only city where qts can wear shorts without getting raped

i recommend it

>>68590661
we ve got all kinds of shit

there's always some news about a Georgian murdering someone, I got Georgians living right next to me.
The most violent people in the neighborhood.
and of course they HAD to, had to come here

>>68590594
>>68590482
georgians - ex soviet mafia members (thieves in law) they are theives with little presence in greece tehy are mostly based in france, isn't in greece mostly albanian mafia ? (btw they are in west becuz our police caught most of their members in late early 2000s after police reforms, even policemen were secretly thieves in law such bad times)

>>68590753
https://lathropithikia.wordpress.com/2016/11/15/yesterday-they-arrested-two-georgians-with-two-kazaks-that-first-robbed-a-granny-by-breaking-into-her-house-breaking-her-teeth-to-force-her-to-tell-them-where-the-money-is-and-then-had-a-shootout-wi/

>>68590661
not that many but I can think of a couple 'prominent' ones.

some Georgian Greeks also came after the fall of the Soviet Union

they're all a bit...rougher on average but they don't commit much crime proportionally compared to other immigrant ethnic groups

>>68590753
>smyrna is the only city where qts can wear shorts without getting raped

>implying I'm a dumb /pol/ack who has no clue about Turkey

I like Georgia. How is the situation with your separatist regions? How different is Georgian culture from Abkhazian or Ossetian?

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>>68590753
>smyrna

>>68590899
fuck off shitskin anadolu çomarı!

>>68590932
you tell him, bro. reminder that these people are keeping Turkey down...

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>>68590753
>smyrna

>>68590969
FUCKING KEK

MY SIDES ::D:D:D

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>>68590932
izmir is located in anatolia
>>68590966
>these people
who am i?

>>68590969
>>68588501

>>68590898
georgia is a poor shithole.their people come here to work in tea farms

>>68591024
thought they were as poor as you, how poor are we talking about?

>>68590771
>>68590867

I am not surprised. Kartvelian peoples living outside their original lands do have criminal tendencies.

Laz crime groups in Istanbul are troublesome despite their limited manpower, can't imagine Georgians.

>>68590898
will give you little backstory so you understand everything easier.

nowadays abkhazians which live in abkhazia - georgians which bred with circassians (muslim north caucasian natives) after they got expelled by russian authorities into abkhazia and turkey.

south ossetians - iranians like north ossetians got baptized by georgian kings and given shelter in georgia never loyal subjects to teh crown they were used in georgian army in very limited numbers even during empire era.

south ossetians don't have own culture, i mean *south ossetian culture ???* really xD
abkhazians on the other hand have georgian culture that's why many abkhazians fought on georgian sides because they thought they were georgians which they are. even their national dress is called *abkhazian chokha* chokha - is georgian word and national dress

>>68591015
>whoever fucks my mother is a turk

>>68591024
also we go there for gambling and cheap brothels

>>68591066
>>68591059
you guys are beta males who can't stand for themselves and get fucked by few scattered mafiamen i can't take you seriously no wonder greece lost literally won war to ataturk, and no wonder turkish soldeirs lost coup so easily. jeez you guys with your dummie stereotypes the time i get fucked by foreigners in my country i suicide and so should you.

>>68591066
well, they all end up here for some reason.
just wish we could nuke all of your shitholes, you're the worst neighbors in the world, and now with your coups, boom booms , wars and all that. shit, just remember when the civil war starts, do not come here

you are not welcome, that goes for all of you

>>68591131
it's called living in the first world jorgi, you're supposed to have an argument with somebody in order to get your point across, not drive a knife through his chest

>>68588181
There isn't one Turkish appearance stereotype since Turks are a mix of Greeks, Caucasians, Armenians, Kurds and native Anatolians who were assimilated by Turkic steppe niggers.
Turkey is more Greek, Armenian, Kurdish, etc. than actually Turkic.

>>68591003
u know

>>68591131
kek, Caucasians are too rough for us civilized Europeans. you need to get with the times and join us. at least Georgians are no Chechens

>>68591131
No we can stand again l*z scum in smyrna here. we usually gather up and beat up l*zs and k*rds every day once in a year. it is very fun to do it

>>68591196
this, apart from the Greek part.

>>68591196

every single time a g*rm comes to lecture us about ourselves, is it the same guy?

>>68591196
>>68588501

>>68591146
they would go in germany not in greece...silly greek, why would they go to a country that has debts even arabic immigrants don't want to stay there and turks hare more ambitious than arabs period. you think you have bad neighbors ? at least you are at peace with them, if your neighbors are so bad what can we and israelis say ? you are really whiny weakling

>>68591235
Anatolian Turks don't have any 'actual' Balkan Greek ancestry per se but Anatolia (the proper Anatolia west of Armenia, not the modern expanded definition) was mostly Greek-speaking Christian when the Seljuks arrived. that's what he means

Anatolian Turks genetically look like an Armenian-Caucasian population with some Turkic admixture

>>68588181
Turkey is very diverse due to its size, climate, and history of migrations from east and west

I believe the Pontus area was settled with Muslim Greeks and Slavs after its Christians were deported to Greece around 1920? So a lot of those people might have one or more Balkan grandparent.

>>68591230
does laz mafia actually interact with civilians? I thought they were the wise ones comparable to italians in merika unlike k*rd gangs which are practically compton niggers

>>68591313
>they would go in germany
yeah, just like those army guys that ended up here after the coup


or maybe these guys
http://www.lifo.gr/articles/greece_articles/123436

> you are really whiny weakling
I just don't want any more human trash in my country, is that too much to ask? Go to Bulgaria instead, I really don't know why YOU ALL HAVE TO COME HERE.

>>68591359
they all look the same shit to me desu

>>68591313
quite a few Georgians and other people from the former Eastern Bloc came to Greece in the 90s. there are fewer Georgians in Germany than in Greece

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>>68591359
>Anatolian Turks genetically look like an Armenian-Caucasian population with some Turkic admixture

This, pic related.

>>68591224
civilized europeans were actually caucasians since 13bc, just because you guys suck some arabic sheikh's dick for oil doesn't make you more civilized just a bit richer. we have many minorities and none is discriminated so i have no idea how are you in your country discriminated by georgians...idiot

>>68591369
they usually harass shop owners to pay money.

>>68591235
Greeks settled all over Anatolia.

>>68591243
I am a Caucasian. And no, thats a widely recognized fact.

>>68591292
How is that related to anything I said?

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after syria we will invade greece like a cyprus insAllah

>>68591419
>>68591389
you do realize we had a big greek diaspora in georgia until war with russia in 90-s and they have been here for centuries and they were never ever discriminated, so you guys can shove up your racist and idiotic comments right into your already used anus, those georgians fled with greeks with greek army boats taht came in georgia that was their only way to flee from abkhazia that time and they were accepted becuz they were helped to get in by their greek friends. so until you shame old bonds between our people more think more what you should say.

>>68591196
except the people in those pictures really are not turks, clueless almancı

>>68591495
ermeni or chechen ?

>>68591495
>>68588501

>>68591581
do georgians hate chechens?

>>68591556
They are not Greek,even the Pontics are not Greek. They, including you, are monkeys that should be nuked.

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>>68591074
One of the writers for Star Trek almost named one of the aliens after the Circassians

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Cardassian#Name

>>68591574
I have Turkish friends who all look like they are from different ethnicities. This applies on your whole nation.

>>68591581
Chechen

>>68591597
I am greek

>>68591671
ahahaahah okay i don't take you seriously anymore

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>>68591671

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>>68591745
>I have Turkish friends who all look like they are from different ethnicities. This applies on your whole nation.

got it, now fuck off

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here, this is the map of how welcoming we are towards other ethnicities

>>68591745
I don't know how else to put it , buy
you have to go back

>>68591745
what a dense motherfucker

>>68591556
yeah man, that's exactly what I said. I don't see us disagreeing on anything. there were some Greeks in Georgia who had moved mostly from Anatolia in the past

>>68591676
ur edgy

>>68591745
well, you're sorta right. Turks are pretty varied but Turkey is a huge country. most on average are like Armenian-Caucasian + varied Turkic, genetically though

people can differ much in phenotype even within a single family

>>68591819
super bowl shotgun baba is best baba

>>68591858
you are just retarded dummie, i have many greek friends and whilst their views are different they are always welcoming to serbs f.e so you with your idiotic websites which says *ancient greeks were blonde* which is ridiculous should kill yourself and end your miserable life lmao

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>>68586345
nationalism, guns, tea, light-islamism, horon, population-wide low-tier insanity, comfy landscapes, descendants of muslim turkish pontics mixed with northern turks

its basically turkey's version of the american south
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRhhhBkKaL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-a7n1E3fio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY_w7ha5y7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBKuoduHyUg

>>68591976
You must pay for stalin

and you will pay for stalin

>>68591976
>ancient greeks were blonde
lmao I didn't even bother checking that site and now I see I did the right thing
what a joke

>>68591911
>>68591976

no, I'm a realist, and all of these immigrants are nothing but trouble

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>>68592043
>I didn't even bother checking that site
your loss, kebab

>>68592010
hahahaha ulan el yapması tabanca olduğu nerden belli iki mermide bir tıkanıyo

>>68592052
you're just that kellyposting edgelord. if you nuke their countries, you can rest assured the survivors will flock to your :^)

>>68591819
Face the truth

>>68591858
I will go to Greece, visit you, K?

>>68591888
Good point

>>68591911
They rather look like Kurds, Armenians and Greeks, than Caucasians desu

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>>68592118
>if you nuke their countries, you can rest assured the survivors will flock to your :^)

>>68592030
duuuuuh, stalin hated his nation and
we paid during his lifetime 2 mass murders of georgian people, death of 400k georgian gisoldiers, giving out georgian lands to armenia and azerbaijan, and to Turkey - laz settled area.
what else you want jebany polak ? oh and the biggest payback was fighting with poles against soviets in 1921-22 and looking at incompetent polish soldiers charging soviet tractors with horses.

>>68592200
Why did Stalin treat his own homeland so harshly?

>>68586345
>Grannies
>Laz people with gun
>No Signal
>No Toilet
>Kemenche and tulum (still i would prefer these over zurna)
>Depends on the region, nice or terrible cousine
Nice nature thou.

>>68592052
if you are realist how the hell you think that ancient greeks were blonde ? what's with muh *blonde* heritage here in georgia blonde girls are more vulgar with less inteligent and more easy going
even all philosophers scientists etc were fucking brunettes even the guy you admire so much is brunette - hitler lmao you are biggest joke and shame my greek friends please get out my greek friends wouldn't approve your behavior the problem is sorely with you

>>68592159
no, fucking go back to your country

>>68592200
How do georgians and armenians feel about each other seeing that they are only christian countries in the region, but on opposite side of big power relations?

>>68592200
fuck you, they didnt kill enough you goergian scum

putin should have mopped your shithole red with georgian cocksucker blood

>>68592230
because he was communist, communists don't care about their nation, and to prove that he didn't really care about his country in front of high soviet officials he did these things to his people with that he proved royalty to the revolution and to teh soviet state.

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>>68591818
>Gamsakhurdia

>>68592304
>a Pole supporting Russia

w-what

>>68592321
>communists don't care about their nation

you got that right, pal. they fight for some vague internationalism that ends up fucking their own compatriots in the ass while creating no unity between peoples

>>68592405


Im greek

>>68592092
If you truly believe that Ancient Greeks were "aryans" you are flat out delusional.

But of course, in your /pol/ infested pathetic mind being "civilized" equals to white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, and you believe Greek are the übermensch, therefore pale blondes. This is your subconscious, retarded math.

Ancient Greeks had dark hair and tan skin. You stupid pathetic fuck, just think, they were Mediterranean people.

Get off 4chan, it is killing you.

>>68592267
we have a bit religious differencies like you and serbs we are orthodox armenians have their own apostelic church google for more their information
to give you easier understanding,
imagine slovenia hungary romania greece and bulgaria were all islamic but you and serbs still reminding each other about past wars and atrocities commited by each other
f.e in 1918 war
*i am gonna kill this ermeni pow son of a bitch becuz they murdered my whole family in 1916 in anatolia (armenian far rights were called dashnaks which was carrying out mass murders against non armenian population in anatolia after russian offensive against ottoman empire) adn meanwhile not caring that you are just pawns between superpowers

pretty much what would serb soldier say in 90-s when capturing croatian vilalge *50 years ago when ustasa's came they murdered my whole family so i am gonna murder this family*

>>68592257
this conversation is over, talking to you want drive our immigrant numbers down

>>68592335
and what did abkhazian people do to you ? did they take chechen refugees ? not a single one while we did for sake of gamskahurdia-dudaev friendship, let's be straight we have no love for each other but our leaders were based and they knew in order to survive they had to cooperate which your bipolar idiot basaev failed and humiliated your leader by disobeying his orders. and what now ? you are under russian occupation and basaev is dead like a retarded dog he is.

>>68592560
chill out bruh they are just memeing :dddd

>>68592560
>and what now ?
they tap like chicken

>>68592478
thank you for great answer

>>68592469
can i ask, how do turks feel about their greek past

>>68592615
we had to genocide muslim georgians while we had chance fml

>>68592560
you sound like a fucking shit for blood scumbag fuckboy I'd have no problems putting a round through your shit infested skull

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>>68587973
Hmmm

>>68592560
That wasn't me (the Chechen). Thats some random Hans. I like Georgia and its leaders, one of my most liked ethnicities.

>>68592469
wtf did you say to me you fucking Turk?

>>68592560
oh now I get it.. you think I'm Chechen. I'm not but still.. successfully triggered.

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>>68592629
by greek past do you mean destroying greek civilisation?
If so we are very proud of it

>>68592641
hello chechen
i am not pole so i ain't scared with that epsecially not if it's coming from religious bipolar idiot

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Who knows this guy in here?

>>68592542
this

>>68592739
edgy t.b.h.

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>>68588354
>we should liberate these people!
I once told my Laz friend that he wasn't Turk and he went furious and I thought he was going to fight with me, idk why but they take nationalism seriously when they shouldn't.

>>68592730
yes hans i was 12 years old while being used to increase morale in my father's unit it was there where i killed my first guy at the age of 12 it's very sensitive times for me especially because we lost that war and my father (colonel) died there

See how the monkeys are monkeying?
And then you call me a racist for not wanting you in my country, see how this thread ended up?
Just a bunch of monkeys from shitstan and a bunch of monkeys from fuckstan hurling insults at eachother about killing eachother.

>>68592812
you said the right thing tho...they are georgians
you guys are very good at assimilating minorities i give you that

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>>68592750
yes

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>>68592629
there are 2 schools of thought in this matter:

1) ataturk's definition of being a turk
any citizen of the turkish republic is a turk, "turk" is like "american", merely a demonym
people with common sense believe in this because otherwise it is fucking chaos, and lies because in a land like anatolia no race is pure

2) turanist delusionals
WE R AZIAN HORSE RIDERS %100 TURK I AM NOT GREEK OR ARMENIAN OR ANYTHING MY FATHER CAME HERE FROM CENTRAL ASIA ON HORSEBACK
while they look like pic related

>>68592869
thanks Deutsche brudi, it's about time someone puts these monkeys in their place. \o

>>68592892
that explains a lot thanks

>>68592911
>it's about time someone puts these monkeys in their place. \o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYxO4AH6-pQ

>>68592892
thank you for answer
Why do so many people now support erdogan, while he seems antithesis to everything ataturk fought for?

>>68592987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MmdUNbwZlg

>>68593009
ISLAM
S
L
A
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>>68592868
Nah, I'm from black sea region as well, only not Laz or Georgian, and Laz people aren't Georgians. As far as I know Laz and Georgian people still talk their language and have small villages only consisting of those, but they are so tiny that they don't matter, and ofcourse some have been assimilated but what I'm talking isn't systemic assimilation by state but Laz people being hardcore Turkey nationalists.

>>68592812
Because Laz have the common sense spoken of here >>68592892

Would you rather he ganged up on you with his 70 cousins and then gangbanged your sister and your dog? All while smoking his smuggled cigarettes from PKK INC.

>>68593050
>Video not available in your country
had to proxy this shit

>cucked

>>68593091
Can you do the world a favor and genocide these georgian whores next?

they're occupying precious land that could be put to better use rather than being wasted on multiplying their worthless stinking numbers

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>>68593132
No, I'd rather gangbang his sister by myself.

>>68593050
can someone kill this wanna be blonde germanic beta virgin ? it would be funny if it were not pathetic. you and turks are related very much.

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>>68593210

>>68592868
I am Laz, not Georgian. Georgians should stop this pathetic attempt to play "imperialism", a shitty attempt at emulating bigger nations. "hehe look we can assimilate too :DDD"

Language defines race. Mingrels, Svans, Laz, Georgians, they all have their own languages. If you are honestly looking for a roof term, it is "Kartvelian". Not Georgian.

>>68593091
tru

cringe thread

>>68593210
why woult they erdogan is georgian :D
georgia is actually very good at producing dictators.
>>68593091
georgian is simple word for ethnicities in kartvelian race which includes also laz...the things they taught you in your schools and universities is lie to gain your loyalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgians
just search for *laz* in that page

>>68593091
>what I'm talking isn't systemic assimilation by state but Laz people being hardcore Turkey nationalists

how do you think they became "hardcore nationalists" if not by state-sponsored initiatives? do you think Ottoman peasants, Christian or Muslim, were that passionate about nationalism-qua-nationalism rather than say taxation and how much the local authorities mistreated them?

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>>68593346
>you are being lied to at universities!!
>look it is on wikipedia, therefore the absolute truth

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>>68592092
fixed your picture

>>68593236
here we go with the macho attitude again, and then you wonder why don't I want any more of you violent monkeys in my country, and why I hate you third worlders with a passion.

what is it with you monkeys and this gradelike insults, are you fucking retarded?
>inb4 someone posts an iq graph which shows that they are actually retarded

>>68593236
>>68589484
>>68591080

>>68593298
if you want to know my sub ethnicity it's mingrelian, no georgian in georgia is simply georgian you get it right ? here link for more sub ethnicities
http://prnt.sc/dj01od
http://prnt.sc/dj01x6
you like it or not you are brainwashed by turkish schools and massmedia

WELL WELL WELL ANOTHER GOOD THREAD RUINED BY BUTTHURT EX-OTTOMANS...

TIME TO ABANDON!

>>68593565
I thought you come here to find sanctuary from all the mayhem and chaos in your country.

And now you're leaving? Well good.

>>68593424
lmao
>>68593438
fuck off uneducated pan hellenist who is so smart and educated that thinks every non blonde in greece is foreigner and only 0.00003% of greeks in greece are true greeks you are just ridiculous. we should get new word for your ideology - panblondism
>>68593420
because wikipedia doesn't belong to turkish government and it's international ???
dude ancient georgian kingdom was called lazica which was huuge from abkhazia to klarjeti. look up old books and none will say that you are turkish or turkic lol you were part of kartvelian race.

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>>68593346
>the things they taught you in your schools and universities is lie to gain your loyalty.
Again I'm not Laz, just from Blacksea region, and you should tell that to Laz people, doubt they'll accept it tho. Just wanted to mention it because someone said they should liberate Laz people, and if you want to liberate them from Turkey good fucking luck because you don't know shit about them.
>>68593348
>how do you think they became "hardcore nationalists" if not by state-sponsored initiatives?
I don't think Blacksea region needed such thing in the first place, My great grandfather lived there, my grandfather lives there, my father grow there and I still visit our village almost every year. I know these people, I've listened their WW1 stories. I think if anything the religion plays big part rather than supposed state sponsored nationalism.
>do you think Ottoman peasants, Christian or Muslim, were that passionate about nationalism-qua-nationalism rather than say taxation and how much the local authorities mistreated them?
If you're talking about around WW1 yes, see Armenians and other nation related revolts.

>>68593468
>if you disagree with me you are brainwashed by the people I don't like
pls stop

you do realize wikipedia articles can be edited by anyone right? there are sections called "talk" on every article, check them to see how debatable those articles are

again, the term you are looking for is kartvelian

and fyi, these issues are not even discussed in schools and media here, they have more pressing issues like getting raped by terrorists

>>68593674
>look up old books and none will say that you are turkish or turkic lol you were part of kartvelian race

no one here is saying that either lol, read again

>>68587973
>Implying we are dead.
only the christian version of us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EID-xA6Nj8

>>68593711
I do agree that Muslim-Christian antagonism was one factor as well but it still didn't necessarily create "Turks" rather than "Ottoman subjects". you needed something extra for that that was top-down

>>68593827
yes kartvelian in english it's georgian goddamit
they can be edited but won't be published without proper citations and controling by admin i have posted on wiki it's not as easy as you think -_-

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>its another "turkey-related thread ends up with cancerous shitposting" episode

>>68593930
again see this guy
>>68592892
>1) ataturk's definition of being a turk
>any citizen of the turkish republic is a turk, "turk" is like "american", merely a demonym
>people with common sense believe in this because otherwise it is fucking chaos, and lies because in a land like anatolia no race is pure

>>68592747
chernobyl resident

>>68594067
I don't see where I disagree with this guy

yes, obviously post-Ataturk Turkey is very nationalist (more so than even most of the Balkans I'd say) and part of that nationalism plays on pre-nationalist sentiment

>>68594094
Ayyyy lmao

>>68594067
ne mutlu türküm diyene ???

>>68594118
>I don't see where I disagree with this guy
I meant for this
>I do agree that Muslim-Christian antagonism was one factor as well but it still didn't necessarily create "Turks" rather than "Ottoman subjects". you needed something extra for that that was top-down
that thing you don't disagree was the something extra, unless you mean all history of Ottoman which was about 700 years and before that there was Seljuks so non Turk people who were alive in Anatolia knew Turks more than Greeks, I'd assume that might also help.
>>68594203
İyi günler arkadaşlar.

>>68592747
>tfw I was a part of the funeral convoy

He was a real human bean.

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>>68593298
>Georgians should stop this pathetic attempt to play "imperialism", a shitty attempt at emulating bigger nations.
They always come up with that kind of shit, it's the same with them claiming that Abkhaz people used to be Georgians just because they were under Georgian control.

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>>68594378
bantları kaldıramadın galba kardş :DDDDDddDD

>>68593348
maybe they hated the people the next village over so much they turned to the only thing stronger than them

>>68594432
Sağol dicektin OOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOSPU ÇOCCUUUUUĞ

>>68594410
t. Ivan Ivanov

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That would be nice country shape desu

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>>68594410
Georgians = Mingrelians, Laz, Swans, etc.
Georgian is the generic name for all of them

>>68594525
ulan yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooş

>>68592716
>>68590763

>>68594410
listen you dumb immigrant. abasgians were part of colchis and related to colchis with blood(colchis - mingrelians) colchis are part of kartvelian race we didn't call them abasgians but abkhazs i am mingrelian myself mingrelians like abkhazians and lazs have their own language but they are stil lpart of kartvelian race nonetheless, you think that you are radically different becuz of your race mixing with muslim tribes - circassians in exact tehre are so many abkhazian refugees i ngeorgia without arms and legs who fought with other georgians against occupants, in abkhazian war for so called abkhazian side only 20% was ethnic abkhazia nand the ones which were were all muslim so you can shove your far stretched muslim theory right into your ass

>>68593906
>>68588501

>>68594552
I think that's map of Colchis. Amazing location, fertile flat lands of Batumi and Poti surrounded by mountains, only easy way in or out is the sea.

This geological advantage was one of the key factors in survival of Kartvelian kingdoms, you don't survive for a thousand years there without a defensive advantage.

>>68590969
ROFL
poor baby hahaha

>>68590969
Was the priest drunk or blind?
or both?

>>68594767
You can't read can you? Abasgoi and Apsilae were not Kartvelian speaking peoples.

>>68595856
let me get this straight, abasgoi was the name given by greeks to abkhazians in georgian we call them like in english abkhazians, there is written abasgoi because only ancient information about these lands is written by greeks and greeks write in their language duh.
there is no single kartvelian language there are many languages and dialects laz abkhazian mingrelian svan and so on. as it is written *there are still debates goin about that* there were no debates going about that 100 years ago until soviet shitty union conquered us and made *divide and conquer policies* after that started muh independence and shit not only with abkhazian people, oh no with svans mingrelians and others but abkhazians were most influenced by that because of geographical location and race mixing with turkic nations letting them feel special and different

>>68586345
Lazistan ends at Samsun. Sinop is central black sea masterrace, and samsun i believe isn't as bad as l*zstan

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>>68596240
I heard that Sinop is a new homeland for cerkez and apsua?

>>68596062
>there is no single kartvelian language
Never said there was.
> there are many languages and dialects laz abkhazian mingrelian svan and so on
Abkhazian is not a Kartvelian dialect. It's a different language belonging to a different language family. And the sources provided on Wiki are not Russian sources.

>>68596240
No it ends at the east of Trabzon, Surmene.
all left from there is Pontic with Chepni
Until Giresun

>>68587973
We killed them like the scum they are, further questions?

>>68596442
there are some circassians in sinop i believe, but it isn't anything noticable. i don't even know what an apsua is.
and no, at least circassians don't have a single homeland, they are pretty scattered.
>>68596533
>pontic
are you meming? there are only a handful of pontics left. and when one says "laz", people refer to east black sea "turks" too, otherwise laz people only number around some thousands, who live in mountains.

>>68596571
I digged quit a bit up these pas few years about this subject

i found a Governement ethnic popluation count
in the Pontic population of Trabzon only
The goverment stated that there were 65.000
Pontics in Trabzon alone in 1965
I callculated it with the Average growth rate and death rate of turkey from 1965 until 2008
i came up with 1.2 million pontics.
i am not in the sense of believe that i counted accuratly
but i can guarantee you that a lott of trabzon is still pontic
There is also the fact that your not gonna find your average hassan talk about how is grand father is
karadeniz rum or rum for that matter
if you can callculate the percentage then please do

>>68591369
You can't tell the difference between a mafioso or a norma person, they're literally anonymous

>>68596524
stop putting words in my mouth, i said that abkhazian svan miongrelian and laz are kartvelian languages

let this shit thread die niggers

>>68586345

Lots of Lazi people hahahahahaha

>>68597808
And that's where you're wrong. Abkhaz is and never was a Kartvelian language you turbofaggot.

>>68596442
Sinop is full of Turkmens

I'm from there

>>68598665
What about the turkwomens?

>>68586345
last bastion of the white race