How did communism fuck over your country, /int/? Communism didn't

*whistles in the wind*

we fought them for a bit and the later we did business with them and made some money

>>68470844
Your country just has always gotten fucked up by neighbours until now

we let a lot of innocent people suffer and die under strictly anti-communist dictators in latin america, who were supported financially and trained by the united states

oops

Nice to see Chen Du-xiu for once.

it wasn't real communism though

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>Trotsky
Kill yourself OP

>>68471097
Trotsky should've inherited the USSR from Lenin instead of Stalin

>>68471153
If so, where would have been the difference ? He refused to take this path precisely because of this.

>>68470792
Actually pretty positive actions considering they only allied to left parties to support laws that actually still benefits us.

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>>68470989

in 1970 Allende (socialist) wanted to deprivatize the copper and to do so he started the due process that consist on taking the private companies and paying them indemnizations
the thing is that in 1932 the socialist government in power made a law (decreto ley 520) that basically let the government deprivatize without paying indemnization.
both international courts and the usa didn't like this because it was pretty much illegal so they made Chile pay a giant indemnization by giving the copper for free.
this basically caused an economic crisis because copper was and still is our major moneymaker
and you know what happened in 1973

>>68470792
Ruined our economics to the Zimbabwe tier.
Starts Multiculturalism and Internationalism.
Fucking Lenin's dead body lies at the Red Square Mausoleum.

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>>68470792
It took over our education

>>68470792
The communist party was very strong in the 40's, but couldn't beat the government party. As a result, to assure its own hegemony, the officialists made a deal with the commies, granting a large series of social guarantees to the workers, such as universal healthcare and the right to vacations. Then this officialist party was involved in fraudulent elections, wich led to a short civil war, and the stablishment of a new constitution. To avoid further trouble, the new government agreed to ban the old parties (including the Communists) but keeping the social agreements they got.

tl;dr: We got our social benefits from them, then we banned them.

>>68470792
They used to be cool. They goufht the Japanese during occupation. Then Kim came and fucked everything up.

>Communism didn't affect us in the slightest
Karl Marx finished Das Kapital in London.

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>>68470792
>Communism didn't affect us in the slightest, our party never took off :^)
That's where you are wrong, kiddo. Communism WON in your country, via pick related.

hmmmmm

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>>68473381
>posting conspiracy theories

>>68470792
Same, we genocided them 1965

>>68470792

JUST

it took our slowly-recovering-after-Trianon country and made it into a futureless shithole

thank dog it's over

>>68470792
>How did communism fuck over your country, /int/?
It didnt actually.

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>>68470792
>fascists and fans of Germany react agaisnt communism
>big capitalists and fans of Britain react agaisnt communism
>they all sperg agaisnt eachother plunging the country to a shitty pseudofascist government
>system evolves into the shithole we are in right now

>>68471897
>Fucking Lenin's dead body lies at the Red Square Mausoleum
I've always wanted to see it.

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>>68470876
Don't forget the civil war of 1918

Lost a bit of land to them.

>>68474760
It is questionable if the Frankfurt school and "Jewish intelectuals" are the root cause of progressivism and were funded by the KGB. Literally everything else checks out.

>>68470989
Well "a lot" was greatly exaggerated by the commie propaganda. Various estimates differ by a ridiculously large margin to make any sense.

>>68471897
>Lenin's dead body lies at the Red Square Mausoleum
kek, that sounds awesome. We should do the same with Trump

>>68474938
>pseudofascist
Huh? I thought you were more like socialist

>>68470792
My country fucked over communism :)

Badly sad part from our side was we elected them in 1948 reasons were simple democracy what did ? leave us in Munich Soviets liberated us if only Americans would free Prague they were 60 km from it but they had to stop at that stupid line which divided Europe so thank you west world and also USSR thank you for 1968.

>>68475887
You're welcome.

>>68471897
>Ruined our economics to the Zimbabwe tier.
the change to capitalism did that

>Starts Multiculturalism and Internationalism.
a little bit true

>Fucking Lenin's dead body lies at the Red Square Mausoleum.
also true lol

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>>68475644
Ah yes I can see that in this picture here

>>68475276
>High Crime Rates
>Poverty
>Inflation
>Shrinking Middle class
>Affirmative action
>Research on biological differences is prohibited
>Etc
None of that is a problem in my country, even though we are one of the most progressive countries in the world. I could name dozens of "brave countries" who "rejected progressivm" and struggle with those problems.

>>68476295
>no high crime rates in germany

yeah, cologne didn't happened baka

>>68476253
If we didn't weaken Russia, they would have won the cold war.

America fought against a very injured bear, not the whole deal.

The Soviet population was close to 300million close to their collapse. Without us it would be 400 or even 500 million.

>>68476818
Without you they wouldn't have taken most of eastern europe

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>>68470792

>Communism didn't affect us in the slightest

if only you knew how bad things really are

>>68470792
>Communism didn't affect us in the slightest
If it wasn't for Marxism, you would be still be working in a Manchester coal mine.

>>68476797
Statistically speaking, cologne is happening 10x daily in other countries. We still have one of the lowest crime rates ever.

>>68476295
The effects of 'progressivism' are a proces. It's not like you can suddenly flip a swich and have a 'progressive society' with all it's consequences.The you mention problems in "brave countries" (I think you mean Eastern Europe) are getting smaller, as these countries develop and recover from communism. Whilst these problems are only getting bigger in western countries, like Germany.

>>68477110

Nigger, no one works in those coalfields because they are empty.

>>68477149
The problems you mentioned*

>>68476944
SU had plans to take over europe long before germany did.

>>68477110
>Thatcher was a marxist

>>68477110
*syndicalism

>>68477215
Yes but they gave up those intentions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country

It wasn't until they liberated Eastern Europe (or counter invaded) from Germany, that they were in control.

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>>68470792
The average state salary in Cuba rose 1 percent in 2013 to 471 pesos ($20) a month,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzZlOKnYlw

>>68477373
>Your country
>Cuba
You're an American

>>68477478

nonwhites cannot be American.

>>68477136

>We still have one of the lowest crime rates ever.
Wait until you get more "German men of different ethnic origins"

Japan practiced communism, enriching all classes.
thank you, communism!

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>>68470792
INSTALL

>>68477110
wat

>>68470792

Labour parties are the 1st step to communism.

The Labour party fucked your country beyond belief.

Better open your eyes OP and learn some history.

>>68470792
>:^)

Fuck you.

>>68479015
He has a point. Soviet communism was great motivation for western countries to adopt welfare state policies to placate the working class and prevent them from going full retard.

>>68470989
>pinochet was bad
burger education

>>68479405
And stanlin industrialized the country, and Hitler boosted the employement amirate :^)

>>68479508
fuck off commie

>>68479850
He's right though. Just because pino got some things right doesn't mean he wasn't shit.

they financially ruined the country, also 1956

>>68480267
well it didnt exactly work out but he had the right thing on mind

besides he got rid of commies so thats a dealbreaker there pal

>>68480536
Don't cut yourself on that edge son.

>>68479508
Chile is by a long shot the best south american country for a reason.

You can talk about human rights and freedom of speech violations, but realistically, communists are better off dead, and they don't even deserve as expensive executions as heli rides.

>>68481404
>edge
lmao you shouldnt use words the meaning you dont understand

fucking commie

>>68477110
>>68479216
Horse crap. That was inevitable with rising living standards.

>>68471272
I honestly think Trotsky would have taken an approach of spreading the revolution. Probably done more invading, and less purging. Also funding of communists abroad.

He also would have pushed for industrialization quicker as that was originally his idea.

If it wasn't for WW2 Stalin would likely be seen as one of the greatest blunders for the Soviets.

>>68475276
No, is not questionable unless you are an illiterate educated on 4chan with stormfront and /pol/ stupidities.

>>68479091
labour hasn't been socialist leaning since the 70s

don't talk about politics of countries you don't understand m8

>>68482158
>You can talk about human rights and freedom of speech violations, but realistically, communists are better off dead, and they don't even deserve as expensive executions as heli rides.
I'm sure Stalin said the same thing about his rivals while committing his purges.

>>68480510
Didn't someone exhume Janos Kadar's bones recently?

>>68486850
t. mccarthy

>>68470792
I honestly don't get the people who support communism tho, everyone one off them who does always seemed über beta tier. If you want to go the extrem, I've 10x more respect for the people who support national socialism than whose who support communism. Since those who support communism is 90% off the time self hating twats whom doesn't have a single radical thought to what ever bullshit they are sprouting.

>>68476295
But research on biological differences IS prohibited
You do have affirmative action
You do have high crime rates now

>>68487929
In France only nationalists are self-hating twats and it's pretty embarrassing.

>>68488014
>research on biological differences is prohibited
wtf thats true? Prohibited where?

>>68488097
Care to explain?

>>68470792
I don't know what to think about Marxism.
I don't believe in hurqa durqa red scare shit like the avrage cattlenigger (US-American).

In general the Idea of the abolition of family seems very scary to me. I think people need to develop a theory that kills marxism.

>>68488669
>need to develop a theory that kills marxism
I don't think so

>>68488690
Why do you reply to me?
Cattlenigger should not reply to human posts.

Local commies wanted to destroy the country, so patriots slaughtered them all.
Then some foreign communists tried to destroy the country so patriots slaughtered them too.
It's very sad how the only cure to communism is a bullet between the eyes.

>>68471897
>Ruined our economics
You were eating shit in Czars times, it made you into 2nd world power alongside hungry giants like US, Brit, Fr.

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>>68488621
The one saying we're decadent, that France is utter shit, that would like to be back in 1942 when french women were sucking german dicks.The French nationalists.

>>68475306
You drive world into shit you pax americana scum.

>>68488690

resource scarcity? Never read kapital btw, just think it's a natural phenomenon in an finite universe

>>68488797
I'm sorry, but what are you even talking about? Surely none if the nationalist parties ever wanted to be occupied. Do you even have the sligest clue what the fuck you are saying?

>>68489279
French nationalists are nostalgic of Vichy France m8.

>>68488841
wow! please, calm down. Have a seat. Let's have a coffee and a smoke, maybe something to eat. No need for angry words.

bump for interdasting thread.
Let's keep it civil, c/int/izens. Thank You :DDD

>>68470792
>1,5 million of mostly educated people exiled from Soviet Union in very first 5 years
>Several millions of people die of starvation so that the USSR could buy factories most of which served only the buerocrats and ministers until the very end
>Most of population made into slaves with slave mentality
>Traditions of oppression hardened with no hope of change until the communists go away or are overthrown
>Human life lost much of it's value for several decades

>>68489804
Forgot that they also destroyed religion in Russia so people lost whatever moral restraint they may have once had against stealing and exploiting their neigbors.

>>68470792
Communists biggest mistake is they didn't stop within RSFSR borders, they wanted more and more, they chimped out in Germany, then we got Hitler, they chimped out in Ukraine, then we got UPA, chey chimped out in Baltics and EE, then we got enemies for life and a few civil wars out there.
All that subconscious nationalism raised by soviet national politics detonated after Union's break up. Everyone started hating eachother for made-up miserable reasons created solely by communist party, but the hate turned towards russkies, and russkies started haing others too. This is like some cheeky plan made-up together by tsar's secret polise, swiss and british bankers and meiji gowernment 110 years ago. Fucking joos.

>>68490342
Bah. They were just continuing tsarist expansionism. What do you think was with all the attempts to purloin Constantinople?

>>68490418
First they declined tsarist expasion and gave out lands to Finland, Balts, Poland.

>>68490510
That was mainly Stalin because he was determined to get back all the clay Russia had had in 1914.

People's mentality is fucked up. People still hate the wealthy here. If you're rich, you're a criminal and you should feel bad. Corporations are all evil and so are foreign products. Foreign investments mean that you're a cuck. The very terms "private ownership" and "privatisation" still trigger a lot of people. Capitalism is evil. It doesn't even matter if we're talking about left-wingers or right-wingers, they're all stuck with these attitudes.

>>68490784
It'll have to wait until the older generation has died.

>>68470792

Marxist posters all over melbourne

>>68488841
wtf is this flag. i don't even know you exist lel

>>68476295
You didnt have millions of niggers either, Hanz. You will soon know this pain.

>>68488841
>implying world wasnt already shit