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Why is this allowed?
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>>68460456
Cause it was ours in the first place, nigga.

Real question. Why do you give enough of a shit to post this but not enough of a shit to let at least a few Syrian refugees into your country? You got plenty of land and resources dude. Help your Muslim brothers.
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>>68460482
>Cause it was ours in the first place
You mean it belonged to King David?
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>>68460482

exactly, this.
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>>68460482
I'm assuming it's because the people fleeing Syria are jihadists or sympathize with them and al queda and isis have threatened to kill the al saud family
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>>68460508
>ours
What did he mean by this?
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>>68460482

are you a hooknoser?
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Because Hamas, the only negotiator for palestinian rights refused the two-state solution, encourages voilence, fires missles and commits terror attacks against civilians on the daily so it's hard to side with them.
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why is Saudi Arabia allowed to violate every human right on the planet? You are literally as evil as Israel and far more fucked up. It really goes to show that you can get away with anything being a US ally
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>>68460482
>ours
הול אף. סו יו בי סאיין
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>>68460456
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>>68460600
>Kings loss of land 1,000 BCE to another King
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>>68460456
That's rich, coming from a goatfucker financing a retarded sect so all the clay can be yours.
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>>68460600
"Jewish" no such thing, all of the land in palestina belonged to the King and nobles not to "Jews".
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>>68460519
>I'm assuming it's because the people fleeing Syria are jihadists or sympathize with them and al queda and isis have threatened to kill the al saud family

Okay, so it's okay for SA to not take in any Syrians because of politics: however, we're supposed to answer to every butthurt Palestinian that is mad he can't go to Jerusalem because he was throwing rocks and fire bombs at civilians? They're not even the same religion as us, we can't feel obligated to help those monkeys out.

>>68460496
Not King David, the People of Israel (עם ישראל). Kingship wasn't instituted by God for any other reason that the people wanted a king (to be more like the other nations).

>>68460539
דאת וויי וואס קאיינגס אנד שיית?
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There is no direct evidence of a united Kingdom of Judah and Israel in the 10th century BCE.
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>>68460456
because Arabs can't into war
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>>68460693
>Not King David, the People of Israel
The land didn't belong to the Jews, it belonged to the King.
It was a Kingdom, not a "Jewish" landium.
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>>68460456
Kys
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>>68460698
Yeah, but there is definitely evidence for a Kingdom of Judah as far back at 700 BCE and most evidence points to a Kingdom of Israel as well.

Maybe not 3000 years old, but archaeologically much older than whatever Muhammad shat out.
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>>68460701
>arabs have to fight Jews who have access to Europeans, Arabs do not have access to Europeans.
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>>68460721
>but there is definitely evidence for a Kingdom of Judah as far back at 700 BCE and most evidence points to a Kingdom of Israel as well.

uh huh, proofs pls.
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>>68460725
Well, they HAD access to Europeans, and then they wanted independence.
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>>68460708
>It was a Kingdom, not a "Jewish" landium.
There's a place in the bible where David actually wanted to just take some land adjacent to his palace (to extend his garden... I can't remember) and the court basically told him to fuck off (it was an overextension of his power).

The king was always an administrative power and this was fully solidified when the Greek (and later Romans) came in and started installing puppet rulers.

If anything, just read the bible. The land was distributed to the various tribes and any land sold or bought had its title reset to the original tribe after every 50 years.
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>>68460526

it belongs to the western world. not sandnigs. i hope is what he meant.
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>>68460693
No you just do the same thing and ignore them. Like the us has been doing. Plus the arabs hate Palestinians anyways. So they ain't going to help them
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>>68460757
>
There's a place in the bible where David actually wanted to just take some land adjacent to his palace (to extend his garden... I can't remember) and the court basically told him to fuck off (it was an overextension of his power).

Yes, the land belonged to the King and Nobles not to "Jewish" people who were majority slaves.
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>>68460737
Ancient Assyrian and Egyptian steeles
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>>68460757
>There's a place in the bible where...
Are you being serious?
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>>68460737
Just look at Israel's wikipage. Archaeological support isn't really there until around 700BCE. It probably wasn't even really a kingdom, but it was core identity.

Hell, the claim to the Land of Israel could be as early as the day before Muhammad's army conquered Jerusalem and it'd still be legitimate.
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>>68460763
>it belongs to the western world. not sandnigs
considering the 180s the "western world" does every 10 years I have no clue what you mean by that, one minute they are colonizers taking shit from savages the next they are egalitarians.
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>>68460641
jews bought the land from said kings and nobles in the 1800s
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>>68460725
???
Arabs were massively supported by Soviets in Israel-Arab wars
Israel had a bunch of embargos on them
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>>68460456
t. Worst of the Muslim countries
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>>68460827
Jews got an illegal mandate from an illegal authority, the British Empire is as valid an authority to mandate something for natives of a land as is the Saudis to mandate something for a land.

If you view the British Empires colonial empire as a valid authority over conquered peoples then the British Empire has a valid authority saying that all its African colonies and Indian colonies belongs to them.
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>>68460863
What diaspora are you?
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I stand with Israel

:DDDDD
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>>68460886
Fuck off you lowlife shitskin

>>68460893
Finnish German
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>>68460898
You stand with colonists and colonization policies by a conquering empire.
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>>68460790
The bible is a relatively decent source when it comes to traditions, geopolitics, language, et cetera. Everything I've said isn't isolated to the bible only as well: it has to connect to external records to be verified.

Rather Sabbatical years actually happened or not is probably implausible (because who will just voluntarily agree to undo 50 years of buying and give all their land claims back to the other tribe?) but it's obviously emphasizing that land was tied at a tribal level and not like some Yuropoor vassal economy.

>Yes, the land belonged to the King and Nobles not to "Jewish" people who were majority slaves.

I guess? But that's the same with every other political domain until the Age of Enlightenment. Rome's land assets were essentially only controlled by a few dozen different families.

I guess you could argue that Greece wasn't necessarily like this, but Greece is a mountainous shithole that can't grow anything besides grapes and olives for more than a few feet.

I don't know, dude. It just sounds like semantics at this point.
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>>68460910
Boo hoo hoo. There isn't one nation on Earth that wasn't founded by killing people and taking their land.
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>>68460809
>every 10 years
> one minute they are colonizers taking shit from savages the next they are egalitarians.

its been a decades long pattern of one to the other.
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>>68460886
I was talking about jews buying the land from the ottomans
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>>68460456
Why is what allowed? Jews rightfully defending themselves from Arab aggression and their baseless claims?
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>>68460945
And in return commit another holululululu against Arabs with support of Western imperalism because of guilt of genociding Jews now they can do anything and everything and everybody turn a blind eye
Now being against a criminal state means you're nazi
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>>68460944
Like, OP should be aware that his country was founded by the al-Saud family conquering and killing all of the neighboring tribes.
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>>68460886

didnt realise the u.n. posted on /int/
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>>68461030
Those two are completely separate issues, and Israel didn't need or even get to play the holocaust card when repelling first wave of unwashed savages.

And if you think that whatever is happening to palestinians is even comparable to what happened to jews before then you're either retarded or a very evil person, possibly both.
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>>68460945
do great, great grandparents qualify enough for me to get reparations?
>>68461030
>genocide
Palestinian refugees in 1948: 720,000
Palestinian refugees in 2015: 5,149,742
being able to live in a country that has a kike majority: priceless

also, pic related makes you a nazi
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>>68461093
What happened to Jews?
Some Jews died?
How many recorded deaths and corpses?
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>>68461113
the yad vashem hall of names currently has over 4.5 million names.
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>>68461113
You can literally visit Auschwitz today to see how it was organized. Some people who survived it are still around to give testimony, although to great glee of neonazi scum they are gradually dying out.
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>>68461136
>the yad vashem hall of names currently has over 4.5 million names.
Show the corpses and evidence.

pic related soviet soldiers.
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>>68461030
بلدك علاقات دبلوماسية مع إسرائيل. إذا كنت ترغب في معرفة من هو المساعدة والتحريض صهيونية، يجب أن ننظر في المرآة.
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>>68461166
>You can literally visit Auschwitz today to see how it was organized. Some people who survived it are still around to give testimony,
I can see a Jew being murdered?
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>>68461166
>give testimony
So they weren't killed?
They are a holocaust "survivor".
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>>68461202
are you retarded?
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Mortal remains of Soviet soldiers who fought in World War II lay in an unearthed mass grave in Alt Tucheband in the Oderbruch region near the Polish border, ...
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>>68461219
>>68461235
You'd be talking differently if it was your loved ones geting imprisoned and mass murdered because of who they were born.
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>>68461237
pic related proofs of dead people.
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>>68461204

nice squiggles.
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>>68461259
>You'd be talking differently if it was your loved ones geting imprisoned and mass murdered because of who they were born.
I doubt it matters why someone was killed, and many people died to ally bombing just because they happen to be German.
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>>68461277
there you go, pic was found in a photo album of ss guy with the label on the back of the photo as "last jew of vinitsa
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>>68461259
>b
You were killed because some people who were Germans killed some people.

You were killed because some people didn't like Jews.

You're dead either way.
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>>68461334
<photo album of ss guy with the label on the back of the photo as "last jew of vinitsa
Not proof.
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>>68461334
Show the 6 million dead if there is no evidence for 6 million murders then there were no 6 million murders, common sense.
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>palestinian land
>was actually ottoman then british
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>>68461259
>A Jew killed my uncle
>Fuck all Jews
>A German killed my uncle
>Fuck all Germans
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>>68461292
There's a difference between dying because ideology says you must be murdered and being killed as casualty in a war. I'm not one that would advocate tactics of carpet bombing civilian populace to erode enemy resistance, but if you are drawing on your nihilism to justify ideological murder of someone whose only "crime" was being born as certain ethnicity then you are the lowest form of scum.
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>>68461393
>palestinian land
>was actually ottoman then british
If you support the rights of conquerors to mandate policies for conquered people.

>>68461406
There is no different between dying for arbituary reason 21
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>>68461386
sure, I will just get you 6 million, 70 year old bodies, many of which were cremated.
I will send them to you through the mail.
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>>68461406
>There's a difference between dying because ideology says you must be murdered and being killed as casualty in a war.
There is none, you an innocent are murdered either way.
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>>68461344
>>68461395

Tell that to yourself when a delusional manchild of the day decides that your country would be better if you were killed.
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>>68461413
How the hell were the Nazis able to cremate a body every 10 minutes when it takes 2-3 hours with the newest technology of the 21st century?
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>>68461413
No evidence for murders then.

>but if you are drawing on your nihilism to justify ideological murder of someone whose only "crime" was being born as certain ethnicity then you are the lowest form of scum.
They weren't murdered is what I'm arguing, and their is no difference from being murdered by your ethnicity and being murdered by some other reason, you're murdered and that's the truth.
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>>68461451
>Tell that to yourself when a delusional manchild of the day decides that your country would be better if you were killed.
Same thing when a bunch of world powers decide to bomb where I live to kill me.
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>>68461451
>[
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a lot of jews were killed in ww2, but they werent fighting against germany much except some minor groups. but soviets did fought them and LOST 26 MILLION people but they barely get any credit compared to jewish 6 million
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>>68461469
because you aren't cremating starving people.
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>>68461470
>you're murdered because your face is ugly
>you're murdered because of your race
no difference.
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>>68461515
>because you aren't cremating starving people.
People starve in 10 days without food or water, why feed "starving" people?
Those skinny pictures obviously were bathed and ate but there were food shortages.
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>>68461434
Yes, there is. In former case you're dead because an authority passed judgement over you for something you had no influence over.
In the latter case you die because you happened to be near military objective when it was being bombed - and if you're talking about deliberate bombing of civilians, you can go cry about bomber Harris or about what Assad and Putin are doing in Syria to at least show some consistency.

That still doesn't change anything about fact that if you advocate murdering innocents on ideological grounds then you are a monster.
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>>68461515
in WW1 Germans were starving in berlin.
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>>68461564
>Yes, there is. In former case you're dead because an authority passed judgement over you for something you had no influence over.
You have no influence over any murdering force, you retard.

All murders are murders reasons don't matter.
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>>68460456
rightful turkish clay
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>>68461564
>That still doesn't change anything about fact that if you advocate murdering innocents on ideological grounds then you are a monster.
If you advocate murdering innocents on any grounds whatsoever you're a monster.
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>>68461515
They weren't starved first in the camps, they were, apparently, sent right to the gas chambers at arrival.
But let's be generous and say that the average jew weighed 35-40kg and the average person of today 70kg. It's still impossible and I haven't even included the time it takes for the germans to transport them from the gas chambers to the ofens, or that you only could have gassed 12 jews a day.
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>>68461564
Advocating murdering Germans because of what other Germans did is atrocious, having to pay the price of what others did but you yourself had no role in being born German is evil.
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>>68461334
You and your six million.
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>>68461544
pic related is not just "food shortage
>>68461565
I fail to see the connection to the current conversation
>>68461655
>They weren't starved first in the camps, they were, apparently, sent right to the gas chambers at arrival
you are forgetting about the ghettos and work camps that they went to before they extermination camps.
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>>68461726
So they were prisoners of war who were used as laborers but then gassed?

Where does the murder competent come in other than testimonies and other falsifications?
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>Backstab Turks and all with brits.
>Get Balkanized
>Get cucked by Jews.
>Get rekt by small Jewish army led by womyn.
Arabs are so pathetic.
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>>68461579
Reasons do matter because they determine context and response of people who observe it.
But as for murders, dying in a bomb blast is not a murder unless the bomb was specifically meant for you as an innocent civilian. When you're in a war that your country started and work in arms factory, well, sucks to be you.


>>68461598
I don't.

But in attempt to rewrite history to suit your ideology, you do.

If you want to learn about holocaust, go out and fucking read. This is not a platform for spoonfeeding you.
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>>68461748
>Reasons do matter because they determine context and response of people who observe it.
>I am murdered and I did nothing wrong
>I am murdered and I did nothing wrong
No difference.
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>>68461746
You just described the western civilization. Pathetic indeed.
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>>68461748
>If you want to learn about holocaust
There is no The nor any special credence to any Jewish deaths.
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>>68460456
Jews are doing gods work by killing arabs.
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That land is all the rightful clay of the British Empire.

As to your question: what are you going to do about it? That's why.
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>>68461657
And who's advocating murdering germans?
Or are you saying that a country should not fight against the aggressor at all because it might harm civilans in crossfire?
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>>68461739
>prisoners of war
prisoners of war are enemy combatants who are then captured.
what we are discussing are civilians who were persecuted for being born to a certain ethnicity.
>>68461684
>You and your six million
if you look at the thread, the first time the holocaust is mentioned was by the danish guy's meme. it was the anti-Israel side that brought up the holocaust. I wuold much prefer talking Israel-palestine than the holocaust, ess depressing.
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>>68461814
Okay, wallow in your opinionated ignorance.
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>>68461829
>rightful clay of the British Empire
>balfour declaration.
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>>68461858
>prisoners of war are enemy combatants who are then captured.
>what we are discussing are civilians who were persecuted for being born to a certain ethnicity.
Are saying there weren't any Jewish powers in the influence of armies of other countries?
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>>68461885
>implying that things which I consider inconvenient may be valid
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>>68461862
You're the one giving special credence to murders of a certain race, seems pretty racist.
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>>68461314

nice doll.
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>>68461858
http://ask.metafilter.com/136029/Who-were-the-highest-ranking-Jewish-officers-in-the-World-War-II-militaries

educate yourself.
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Right now at page 107. Hasn't really bettered my perception of the jews
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Jewish Soviet Generals during WWII:

Major-General (1944) Mikhail Efimovich Litvin (1912-1978)
Major-General (1943) Izrail Aleksandrovich Shapiro (1901-1981)
Major-General of Aviation (1940) Isaak Senderovich (Aleksandrovich) Levin (1896-1956)
Major-General of Artillery (1944) Efim Moiseevich Varshavskii (1892-1983)
Major-General of Technical Troops (1945) Naum Abramovich Rabinovich (1893-1958)
Lieutenant-General of Technical-Engineering Service (1944) Viktor Mendelevich Sorkin (1899-1978)
Major-General of Technical-Engineering Service (1943) Iakov Zalmanovich Kronrod (1909-1986)
Major-General of Technical-Engineering Service (1943) Boris Lazarevich Livshits (1909-1986)
Major-General of Medical Services (1942) Lazar Moiseevich Moizhes (1903-1943)
Major-General of Medical Services (1944) Boris Samoilovich Sigal ( ? - ? )

Jews were prisoners of war from the war against the soviet state which was entirely Jewish in its formation, leaders and armies.
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>>68461838
>Or are you saying that a country should not fight against the aggressor at all because it might harm civilans in crossfire

Germany did not declare war on Britain and France, they declared a border dispute with Poland, and they fought the military only.
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>>68461992
Border dispute with diving bombers and panzer divisions :DDDD
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>>68461969
The Soviet states purposes and goals were Jewish, it's morals Jewish, and its power Jewish.
The soviet government was as Jewish as the German Government was German.

Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish
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>>68461890
are you saying the majority of jews were involved in the military?
>>68461969
leader of the soviet union during ww2, joseph stalin, was not jewish
majority of jews were not involved in the rise of communism in russia
if the USSR was so jewish, why did they side with the arabs?
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>>68462022
Poles had tanks and bombers.
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>>68461909
kek
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>>68462040
>are you saying the majority of jews were involved in the military?
proportionally higher Jews in Soviet Government than Russians in government.

Jews were 0.1% of Russia yet 99% of soviet government.
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>>68460456
Palestine is a meme country that only existed under the Ottoman and later British empires. If they want palestine so bad than it should be under proper British or Turkish rule, as is true to their """history"""
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>>68462047
How does that make Germany any less of an aggressor?
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>>68461953
>reading a book by an amerifat
>>68462083
>bullshit statistics
let's see some names of soviet leaders between 1938 and 1945, not counting anyone from any other dates.
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>>68461953
Getting mad at Jews for being successful is the same as niggers getting mad at whitey for working harder.
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>>68462119
>reading a book by an amerifat
Problem is not that he's amerifat but because of his emotional and ideological bias.
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>>68460456
Inchallah, Israel must die
Allah Is Great, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jews, Victory to Islam !
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>>68462281
For the chosen people slavery to all Goyim, Death to Goyim armies and power, victory to the chosen people over filthy GOYIM!
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>>68462163
That's not what the book is about. The book is about jewish involvement in Soviet Russia, the civil rights movement, feminism and about the anti-Gentile mindset taught to jews by the zionists and the Talmud etc.

Pic related is the next book I will read.
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>>68462378
>feminism
they are anti israel
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>>68460456
Because only america's freinds are allowed to grab their rightfull clay. For others it is banned even after arranging referendum.
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>>68462378
Try reading this instead of the Protocols, It's an entertaining look at why they're all garbage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prague_Cemetery
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>>68462400
What the hell is wrong with your Talmud? It's disturbing.
It says that every Gentile is an animal, that Gentile women are whores, Gentiles should be killed, virgin Maria was a whore, Jesus was a bastard who fucked his donkey, jews are gods chosen people etc.
No wonder nobody likes you.
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>>68462443
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
>>68462489
>eurojew is talking trash on jews
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>>68462378
Just read the Talmud to know why Jews advocate for what they do.
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>>68462443
>arranging referendum
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>>68462554
Why America didn't go to war to prevent countries being annexed to EU?
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>>68462554
So? I am not surprised germans in Czechia wanted to be part of Germany. And unlike Sudet Crimea was mostly russian too when it eas attached to Ukraine without its population being asked.
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>>68462526
Should I link to you a map of UN partition of Palestine?
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>>68462575
Sure thing buddy.
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they didn't agree to it, so it doesn't actually have any legality.
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>>68462588
>>68462626
FUCK
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>>68462591
Do you believe ukrainian government would allow to arrange referendum? Do you believe crimeans would vote for Ukraine in any ither way of doing that referendum? Jeez, you are deluded. Yet again, this thread is exactly about how jews while being friends of the US didn't bother themselves even with such formality, they just grab land and don't ask anyone. 0 sanctions were done to Israel by far
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>>68461204
I know about it and I don't approve.
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>>68462549
I'm not saying that christians were angels who never did anything wrong. The old testament was evil beyond imagination. I'm not even christian myself.
The new testament, however, talks more or less nicely of the jews and so do most christians.

The Talmud hasn't changed it's attitudes towards Gentiles and they are still taught this anti-Gentile mindset in jewish schools. No wonder they want to destroy the west with their multicultural/ -racial, big government propaganda.
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>>68462680
The new testament says Jews are devils and that their blood is cursed.
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the question is WHY the fuck should we care about the arabs or jews
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>>68462662
>Do you believe ukrainian government would allow to arrange referendum?
It would after several years in EU if the Russians still wanted it and worked for it.

But this was never about people on Crimea or in eastern Ukraine, it was always only about the base in Sevastopol.
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>>68462626
And our parliament didn't ratificate Budapest memorandum. Giving Crimea to Ukraine would be a crime against Crimea and forcing the dicision crimeans don't want to become real.
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>>68462736
We had this base anyway, what's your point?
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>>68462476
I'm not saying that the protocols are legitimate, the might be fake. However, almost everything said in this book, written in 1897, explains the world we're living in today.
I would say that the protocols of the learned elders of zion is true-fiction, like Owell's book 1984.
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>>68462731
Because they squat their asses in white countries and take over our power.
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>>68462680
bullshit
martin luther, the founder of the protestant movement, wrote a book named
"on the jews and their lies"
the catholic church still maintains that Jews are responsible for the death of jesus
you yourself said that you are reading a book on how the jews are behind all evils in this world and, surprise, david duke is a christian.
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>>68462755
Well apparently your government was worried that after Ukraine associated itself with EU it would join NATO as well and the base would be removed (you had it on loan iirc) or just rendered useless because an american one grew next to it.

At least that's how some of you justified the intervention.
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>>68462827
Well, that makes sense but doesn't change anything. Crimeans got what they wanted, russians got what they wanted, historical justice happened. Everyone except ukrainians who had nothing to do with Crimea except it was given to them by commies are satisfied. win/win.
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>>68460456
Why not?
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>>68461113
>>68461219
>>68461235
>>68461292
>>68461344
>>68461365
>>68461386

Not sure if shitposting with a soft bait for which some newfags are falling...

...or literally retarded.
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>>68462810
While you learn that Gentiles are disgusting animals, not worthy of life, we were learned to love everyone.
The new testament is far, far less anti-Semitic than your book is anti-Gentile.
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>>68462873
Yeah, justice... tell that to the people in donbass.

Recently your agents there accused czech charity workers of profiteering off humanitarian aid and espionage, probably because the guy in charge was among notable characters of velvet revolution and some people are still salty.
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lmao fucking dumb goys

try and stop us faggots
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Who cares about some muslims and kikes?
Just kill them all and build a resort there or something.
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>>68460456
*checks flag*
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>>68463020
Jews are not human they are inter-dimensional and cannot be stopped
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Why is this allowed?
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>>68464508
Because everyone looks to Germany and Germany can't be rude or otherwise they'll get called Nazis
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>>68463012
We were talking about Crimea, not Donbass. Those are different cases with different situations.
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>>68460482
That's a dumb argument desu. Italians could conquer Iberia and use the same argument.
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>>68460944
>What is Iceland.
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>>68460456
It shouldnt be...
Israel is a more powerful country, and I would sooner invest in israel than palestine.
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