Why is Western Europe so degenerate?

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>>68400851
Because it's the right way to live your life

>>68400851
What's wrong with gay marriage?

Our government isn't a religious institution.

>>68400947
What's right with gay marriage?

>>68400947

Gay marriage doesn't matter but gay adoption makes my blood boil.
It just shouldn't be, fuck "equality" if there's a victim.

All Serbs are gays and perverts

>>68401012
If two people love eachother and want to share taxes, ownership, etc. than it's none of my fucking business. They should be allowed to.

I rarely even got a receipt for purchases made with verbally quoted prices in your cunt. Meanwhile you soak up EU funds.

But we are degenerate, right ?

>>68401219
>british education

>the further from civilization you get the more anti gay it gets

>>68400947
Nothing in particular.

>>68401205
This. I'm ok with them too, unless they start to impose their ideology on others

>>68400851
That's an old map, Ireland allow fag marriage now, thankfully Northern Ireland is the last bastion of basedness in Western Europe

>>68401219
that has nothing to do with gay issue

you probably purchased something in some small grocery store, if you did it in any of the city stores or supermarkets you would get the receipt

>>68401205
yes but it's shouldn't be legalized nor encouraged

>>68401205
The only correct answer.

>>68400851
We are degenerate not because of it. First you give gays right to marry each other, then you make trans-friendly WC's and eventually mental people rule your country. Nothig good about it.

>>68400947
Nothing in particular.

>>68401205
This, all memes aside.

>>68401459
No, city centre bars and restaurants.

>that has nothing to do with gay issue

Fucking with the system on a grand scale actually harms people's quality of life. Accepting gays does not. If you want to see true degeneracy go to your local mosque/church.

>>68401459
>yes but it's shouldn't be legalized nor encouraged

>agrees with my point that gay marriage should be legal
>still doesn't want it legalised
I don't understand

>>68401205
They will never be able to have a normal family and raise properly their kids (doesn't matter how good their parents are) and that's what marriage is about, not just "love"

>>68401705
Are you saying that heterosexual couples that don't have kids shouldn't be allowed to marry?

>>68401026
You have to understand how leftists see this problem. If it's "equality" then being gay isn't worse than being straight. Now spend a few minutes trying to convince yourself this is a fundamental truth, also remember to disregard any information or statistics that challenge this idea. Now that you're done with that, you can continue. If being gay isn't any worse, then it isn't any worse for a kid to grow up with it in their parents.

>>68400851
gay marriage is legal here now

>>68401791
What's so good about being married? I would never marry anyone, especially in western countries, where women literally can fuck you up in case of divorce.

>>68401791
No, that would cause a lot of problems, but yes, if a married couple doesn't want to have kids they sould not have the benefits that married couples have

>>68401705
This. Gay marriage should be legal, but they shouldn't be able to adopt.

>>68401459
>yes but it's shouldn't be legalized nor encouraged

how else you gonna have them share taxes if it's not legal?

>>68401898
>имплaинг в Paхe жeнa нe мoжeт зaбpaть пoлoвинy "coвмecтнo" нaжитoгo имyщecтвa и peбeнкa ceбe
Come on now, anon

>>68401898
We aren't discussing whether marriage is good or bad.

>>68401916
>No, that would cause a lot of problems
Same with gay marriage being illegal.

>>68401609
no I meant if they find a way to circumvent the law by living together or doing whatever they want than I guess you can't do anything about it

but approving or supporting gay marriage on country level is insane

>>68401596
was it Federation or Republika Srpska? We in RS do everything by law :3 You will get the receipt

>Fucking with the system on a grand scale actually harms people's quality of life
on a grand scale yes

Eastern Europe doesn't fuck with the system on a grand scale, it's more like medium or low system fucking scale

>>68401916
There's a reason that marriage benefits and child benefits are separate things you know.

>>68401978
Yes, we are fucked up too mate. But I've heard that in some western countries things are even worse.

>>68401916
Wow... get a load of this wanker.

>>68401898
this is true
Gay marriage is legal in the west because marriage as an institution is dead. Nobody sees the point in it anymore because there is none so why not let them get married

>>68401894
my condolences

I'm ok with fags when they keep it quiet. Once they start making muh hurr durr look at me parades or wanting adopt kids, fuck them. They cannot say that it's good for a kid to be raised by a gay couple.

>daddy wheres my mommy

>>68400851
I'm glad cockroachland isn't europe

>>68400851
Why do Bosnian Muslims drink alko and eat prašič?

>>68402020
>no I meant if they find a way to circumvent the law by living together or doing whatever they want than I guess you can't do anything about it
>but approving or supporting gay marriage on country level is insane

I really don't understand.
Marriage lets you have shared ownership, pay taxes together, etc. How can anyone circumvent the law in those cases?
Allowing the gay marriage spares those people a lot of hurdle so I think it's worth it.

>>68401992
That's true, but that doesn't mean gay marriage should be allowed

>>68402032
Marriage benefits exist to encourage people to have a family and have kids, or do you think they exist just to make people "happy" with their partner?

>>68402069
What an argument

>>68401459
>If ain't illegal it's encourage
Third world shitlord mentality desu

>>68402159
They learn how to be a future slovenian :^)

>>68400851
They've run out of real problems to solve so they're making artificial ones up.

>>68400851
marriage is such a bullshit christian concept i don't even know why the faggots want to get married. it should be civil union for everyone: straight people, faggots, zoophiles, necros, what ever. just agree on how you'll divide wealth when you decide to say 'fuck off' to each other and be done with it.

>>68402204
>Marriage benefits exist to encourage people to have a family and have kids
Explain child benefits then.

>>68401026
They adopt orphans. Better some kind of family than nothing

>>68402209
the western attitude of legalising everything isn't going to end well
people are animals and need to be told what they can and cant do

>>68402204
>That's true, but that doesn't mean gay marriage should be allowed
Why not? Isn't law supposed to create order and help citizens?

>>68402081
Yes. This is the last nail in the coffin of the idea of a family as a unit of production in favor of the idea of it as a unit of consumption.

>>68402272
>need to be told what they can and cant do
not that i don't agree with you, but isn't the purpose of law precisely that?

>>68402259
Also this

>>68401205
dis

>>68402272
>people are animals
Nice, you did your homework, congrats
>and need to be told what they can and cant do
By whom? Other animals?

>>68402159
>prašič
pig? svinja?

>>68402423
a large enough group of similarly minded animals come up with a social agreement

>>68402264
They exist to encourage people even more, if you already are married but still think having kids it's too much of a problem (which happens a lot), child benefits help you with that

>>68402275
But you're missing the whole point, marriage is not a "religious" or "cultural" thing, it's about raising normal citizens in a normal family, that's why people who are married and have kids have many benefits from the government, by allowing gay marriage to exist, the concept of marriage losts its whole purpose and people will just marry for the sake of doing it

>>68402187
>Allowing the gay marriage spares those people a lot of hurdle so I think it's worth it
but why would we allow something that's degenerate and could have bad influence on rest of population? Plus people are really not comfortable seeing gay pairs in public, it's fucking disgusting

It's like you would allow 2 people to beat each other to death just because they want to (both of them). It doesn't matter if it will cause trauma on people watching that scene

>>68402333
Yes, the yank was saying that not having laws encourage doing something which it obviously does considering laws are the only things that stop people doing most things

>>68402423
>Nice, you did your homework, congrats
always nice to see an american who actually believes in evolution

>By whom? Other animals?
Yes, other smarter animals who don't want to change things on a whim or because it makes them feel less selfish

>>68402020
Zara ir duvara on dzenetica cikma and some shitty place for nargile in the old town, so both in Sarajevo. Such violations of ordnung really fuck me off, especially since I really liked your cunt.

>We in RS

I entered through RS in a car with alboshit license plates. The border guard wanted to check all through our suitcases.

>>68402426
Da, eto tak
>>68402478
but if you don't have kids the gommies will surpass your population in your cunt

>>68402609
>alboshit license plates
fugg :D why the fuck did you have Albanian license plates?

>>68402598
fair enough. i didn't really follow your discussion

>>68402611
what are you? a special kind of retarded? the commies will be outbred soon despite a lower than 2.0 birth rate

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>>68402712
Because I flew into Tirana

>>68401205
what if one of them is already married? that'd be polygamy. but then it's none of your business, because two people love each other.

what if one of them is a child? that'd be pedophilia. what do you say to that? it's none of your business?

>>68402714
>the commies will be outbred soon
why is it always that good kind of people get outbred?

>>68402749
I like your hair :3

>>68402542
>But you're missing the whole point, marriage is not a "religious" or "cultural" thing, it's about raising normal citizens in a normal family
Then again, why are heterosexual couples without kids allowed to be married?

>the concept of marriage losts its whole purpose and people will just marry for the sake of doing it
You say that it's not a religious thing but

>>68402558
>degenerate
>bad influence
Nice buzzwords. Seems you are going from a very religious standpoint. I value people's freedoms more.

>Plus people are really not comfortable seeing gay pairs in public, it's fucking disgusting
Not all people and not an argument.

>>68402844
>I value people's freedoms more.
freedom doesn't mean you can do whatever you want

>>68402714
why do you think so

>>68402844
>Then again, why are heterosexual couples without kids allowed to be married?
I already told you, they shouldn't, but it would be a big problem, many times bigger than not allowing gay marriage

>You say that it's not a religious thing but
Because it's not, people wouldn't marry to have a family, but just to take the benefits from it without accomplish the whole purpose of it

>>68402789
>what if one of them is already married? that'd be polygamy. but then it's none of your business, because two people love each other.
It's ok
>what if one of them is a child? that'd be pedophilia. what do you say to that? it's none of your business?
Kids have special protection under law as they are not fully able to judge like an adult. So in this case the law should not allow marriage.

>>68402844
*but by law marriage is only a shared tax and ownership institution, not about raising citizens.

>>68402967
you don't have to think all that much when the data is staring in your face...

>>68402952
As long the other part is a consenting adult and you don't limit other people freedoms you can do whatever you want.

>>68402982
>I already told you, they shouldn't
Then the only two just options are banning marriage of two people who don't have kids (and allow them and gays to have civil unions) or legalising gay marriage. Either is fine for me.

>>68403167
wrong

I can give you tons of examples that 2 adult people consent to and that don't limit other people freedoms which are completely wrong

>>68403284
go on

>>68402820
Hvala. Are you a gril ?

>>68403320

Ponzi scheme, ya cunt.

>>68403377
If someone signs a deal, it's his fault.

>>68403337
no he thinks you're a girl

>>68401205
this
I have no issues with anyone as long as they mind their own business

>>68403436

It's disingenuous and immoral, ya dense cunt. If you accept to the terms and conditions of wahtever shit porn site you go to without reading and then they post your porn info on facebook, it's still wrong even if you consent.
Consent is the best ally for exploitation. Machiavelli said if you make people think they consented to something you can make them do anything even things they're against.

>>68400851
Shit was great in my country, they were going to make a referendum on gay marriage, polls give a 86% that NO will win.

L-lets forget the referendum and approve it anyway...

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>>68401418
> ideology
Liking men is as much of an ideology as liking milk.

>>68403665
>It's disingenuous and immoral,
Should have read the contract and done some research before joining the scheme.
I have no pity for stupid and impetuous people.

>>68403533
That would be awkward

>>68403914
>would be

>>68403810

*tips*

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Why is Eastern Europe so degenerate?

>>68400851
outdated map

>>68406581
Damn Finland, control your mongol genes.

>>68406581
they're mongols in denial

>russia is somehow a bastion of tradition values because sometimes it's mean to gay people

>meanwhile it has higher rates of abortion, violent crime, drug use, rape, divorce, and corruption than the "degenerate west"

>>68406581
>Eastern Europe

You mean, former countries of the USSR?

>>68409690
Yes that's Eastern Europe