Kek the second airplane in a month just fell off the Russian

A FUCKING RAMP

just a ruse to conceal their underwater carrier, don't believe the propaganda

>>68270205
Now they're talking about dismantle it in ministry
SAD

How old is that carrier? I'm sure Russia could make a nuclear powered one

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>>68270205
Aren't the Chinese using an old Soviet carrier? And their new one they're building is basically just a copy of it?

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>>68270205
>curved landing deck

>>68270396
30yo
Also csrriers are irrelevent

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Oh, it's that one...

>>68270517
Your picture is out of date. Britain has 1, soon to be 2, carriers which are bigger than the Chinese one.

>>68270490
>carriers are irrelevant
Sure lol

Who needs power projection

>>68270639
Russia is literally half the world by size.

>>68270542
>posting refueling
Why

>>68270757
1/6

>>68271483
>refueling an aircraft carrier with diesel
why

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>>68271863
I think they are refueling coal

>>68271863

What they supposedly refuel it with is only technically diesel, but effectively it is heavy, black oil. Just a step above sludge.

>>68270434
>same carrier
Nope

>copy
Nope

>>68270600
Britain has 0 carriers in service, of which neither carry more aircraft or displace more tons that the Liaoning.

>>68272207
>Liaoning - 58,600 – 67,500-tonnes, max
>Queen Elizabeth - 70,600 tonnes (69,500 long tons; 77,800 short tons

Hmmmmmm.

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ffs Russia.

At least do it like we do, just dock it.

>>68270317
putputputputputputputputputputputput

>>68270317
>>68270205
toot toot :3

>>68271921
The american redneck can only dream of rolling so much coal.

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>>68270517

>can only carry helis

Tecnically we have two then. Idk how are the procedures to be considered "carrier".

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>>68270317
We've all sailed through storms just like Steamboat Willie, but this time we actually might drown. Besides cash in my pockets and girls I think are pretty, there's four things I need before I go down

I'm sayin,
Pack a couple bowls for my boys tonight, and give me the chance to kiss my bike goodbye, give all my records to all my best friends, and tell mom I'm sorry I drove her insane.
So wet your lips dear, and sing like the ships going down. We've been here before and we came out laughing, but this time I think we actually might drown.

I've been from private school polos to sweet jail of Canada, and slept on the most random couches and floors. I'm a spoiled yuppie punk and maybe thats not all I'm after, but I've seen things people pay calendars for.

I would say piece another heatstick but god I'm just tired. And all my friends say this cartoon's life expired. Some of them ran off chasing corporate grins, and some of them left me for oxycotton.

So whats the point dear, to build up what only breaks down. I'm leaving just as mixed up as when I got here. They'll find me in Morro Bay floating face down.

>>68270205
Sure, you can laugh about it, but it's the first time Russia uses aircraft carriers in a real battle.

>>68272207
>>same carrier
Almost yes. It was under construction in Ukraine at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, independednt Ukraine had neither the money nor the interest in finishing it, so they sold the uncompleted carrier to the Chinese who then completed it.

>Britain has 0 carriers in service, of which neither carry more aircraft or displace more tons that the Liaoning.
please be bait

is naval battle a meme or still a valid concept

>>68273613
This.

>>68273704
yes and no.

You still need boats to carry troups and equipements, to carry planes and to carry missiles.

Though dreadnought canon fight is a thing of the past.

I wanted to believe those were good because we have several.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frOqRHbfX5o

>>68273799
This is belorusian

>>68273799
>>68273918

What's the difference between the S-300 and 400?

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>>68274178
100 times more memein', 400 times the bleeedin'

>>68274234

Makes sense.

>>68272398
>They will have a displacement of 65,000 tonnes on delivery, but the design allows for this to reach over 70,000 tonnes as the ship is upgraded through its lifetime.[5]

Why are you trying to lie to me?

>>68273645
>almost yes
In general design the unfinished hull was similar. But the reconstructed Liaoning is significantly different. Just compare to the two designs on wikipedia. The Liaoning has no giant missiles, an extended hangar, a modified flight deck, and redesigned engine room, and a new radar tower.

The 001A is a design based upon this one that completely removes the old unused missile space on the Liaoning, changes the mast completely, and expands the hangar.

>please be bait
The Elizabeth won't be launched until late 2017 at the earliest. Furthermore, the Liaoning carries 48 aircraft whils Elizabeth carries 40.

Kill yourselves

>>68276649
>chinks have to rely on some refitted old soviet ship

Can't make this shit up lmao

>>68276864
How many carriers does Britain have in service?

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>>68270517
Why is Invincible such a qt.

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>>68276649
>Furthermore, the Liaoning carries 48 aircraft whils Elizabeth carries 40

Since we're being pedantic here, the Queen Elizabeth's full capacity is 50 aircraft (pic related). You shouldn't compare full capacity to optimal capacity. Compare apples with apples.

>>68276906
Britain's unfinished aircraft carrier >>>> China's old and busted soviet bodged effort

>>68277006
So essentially the same?

>>68277051
Pretty confident a F-22 with no weapons is worse than a Mig-21 with a gun.

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>>68270205
>just fell off
Maybe they jumped to avoid the fire

>>68277051
>britain
>superpower
pick one

>>68270639
> power projection
> with aircraft carriers

Aircraft carriers only exist because of navies' Freudian complexes. No modern aircraft carrier can survive a saturation attack, they are a waste of money.

Give me a submarine-based navy with some amphibious assault vessels and keep your expensive aircraft carriers.

>>68277560
Don't you kill their hopes. Let them try and raise again.

>>68277648
Let's see your amphibious assault vessels land without air superiority.

>>68277317
>So essentially the same?

Yeah, in terms of aircraft capacity. Although, personally, I'd rather have the 5th gen fighter-bombers which will be able to launch the best missiles around than some Su-33 derivatives

>>68277317
>>68278119
I'd also rather have the 19,000km range (compared to 7000km), the S1850M + Artisan 3D combo, and the 679 crew (compared to 1960 crew for Liaoning)

Etc

>>68277006
>a fucking ramp

>>68278024

Let's see ours....oh right...

lmao, sail all the way to the Med without practicing deck landings like white countries do when sailing and then be surprised when this happens.

>>68270377
NO
it produces too many memes.
/int/ must help fund it

>>68278482
make memes great again

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>>68277558
Ah yes, the Russian stealth technology at its work

>>68278482
Get a Kickstarter going and I'll contribute £20 if the pledge rewards are decent

>>68278351
There were serious concerns Kuznetsov won't make it to the Mediterranean, the fact that it did is already a miracle itself. 2 aircraft crashed? Who cares, that's not as bad as we expected anyway.

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>>68278731
oh god russia this is why i love you

>>68278731
Basically this

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>>68270517
Japan has four helicopter carriers, two Hyuga-class and and two Izumo-class (of which only one has been commissioned, the other has been launched but not commissioned).

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>>68278731
Then what did you expect to happen, for it to sink?

>>68279822
No, just broke down and get towed back to Russia. There was a tugboat in escort for a reason.

>>68280145
Didn't you send a few nuclear subs to the Mediterranean as well?

>>68280541
You've got to send at least one nuclear sub with an aircraft carrier otherwise you may as well commit sudoku before leaving port

>>68280718
Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they had a few Kilos dicking around as well.

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>>68270205
Can your western homogay aircraft carriers block out the sun in small nations?
didn't think so

>>68276649
>>68277006

In actual fact, QE's unofficial capacity is 72 aircraft, although the configuration of aircraft on-board and caveats for that is unknown as documentation for this number is extremely scarce, practically nonexistent.

I only know two sources that have stated this, Jane's Fighting Ships and Peter Roberts from RUSI.

>>68278249
how fucking autistic does one have to be to even waste a single thought about shit like this?

I swear, military guys are the biggest bunch of fags

>>68281217
Seriously? Can you post one of the sources?

>>68270205
They're not falling off, those planes are 6th gen multirole fighters so they can dive too.

>>68277648

Dumb comment

Why are carriers vulnerable, but not amphibious assault ships when the amphibious assault ships are going to be far closer to shore, (thus more vulnerable) order in to deploy their loads?

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>>68281329
IDK about you but I'm pretty damn autistic

"welcome to /int/"

*punches in face*

>>68281385
they are both equally vulnerable to missiles. The difference is that aircraft carriers cost Billions of dollars to build.

Dumb comment

>>68270205
Is this ammunition just visible lying at the edge of the back of this carrier?

>>68281504
If it's ammo it can propably be thrown over the side in case of attack. Could be liferaft capsules as well.

>>68281352


2:26. You can ignore his whining opinion about it not being be CTOL, but the 72 number is factual and he's a very creditable source (give him a Google and check some of his writing and RUSI in general).

https://youtu.be/SEHIaerJbEk

>>68281465

You know that wasn't my point, I was asking him why one is vulnerable and one is not.

A carrier is not vulnerable if it has sufficient escorts and a sound mind commanding it.

>>68271921
lols

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>>68276991
Should have gone CATOBAR.
We literally made a plane for carriers.

>>68281743

Both C and B are made for carriers.

>>68281593
Thanks! Very interesting.

>>68281743
>We literally made a plane for carriers.

F-35C is made for a particular subset of carriers

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>>68280541
Nuclear battleship and 2 cruisers

>>68282072
>Russia has the only battleships left in service of any modern navy
Is this good or bad?

>>68282748
W-we have shittons of rocket cruisers

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>>68282748
>russian navy

>>68283018
Well if you're fighting an enemy with no air force or the battleship is loaded with a lot anti-air defences, then it could still be useful I suppose.

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>>68283118

>>68283018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77j4GEZVNWA

>>68283118
Still more impressive than the Polish navy.

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>>68283167

>>68283118
Every carrier have firetrucks/cars aboard

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>>68283221
Does australia even have military?

>>68273613
What battle? What war are you in that needs aircraft carriers?

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>>68283291
But not every aircraft carrier smokes like old coal miner

>>68283149
6x pic and 16x kinzhals

>>68283299
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Defence_Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Australian_Navy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Australian_Air_Force

Also more impressive than the Polish military

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>>68283394

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>>68283431
You australians are really butthurt, why?

When has a carrier ever won you a war, America?

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Russian aircraft carrier from space

>>68283457
Hi taras.

>>68283472
>t. germany

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>>68283522
>taras
Who?

>>68283507
Wow poles finally learned PS

>>68283554
Typical ukrainian name

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>>68283570
We were always 100 years ahead of you

>>68270205
>>68270317
>>68270542
>>68271921
>>68277558
>>68283299

I think we need HMS Margaret Thatcher to shut this thing.

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>>68283610
Good to know. Still, no ukrainian here

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>polish """""carrier"""""

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>>68283457
We learned it form Poland

>>68283623
Oh wow look polish standart rifle
Woh surprise its russian

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>>68283784
>copy everything from other nations
>wow, we wuz inventors and shieet
>>68283723
By allah, you people are dogs

>>68283944
>copy everything from other nations
Such is life in pooland

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>>68284053
>copy everything,but still too poor to manufacture it in decent quality

such is life in russia

>>68283638
The British navy can't even reach Syria.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/royal-navy-warship-hms-duncan-tow-plymouth-military-defence-a7438646.html

>>68281907

Not a problem. Just be careful if you want to use it in discussion.

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lads my mum made a dinner that was literally unedible, like I was eating something later on and the though of it was putting me off my food

I couldn't eat it and now I feel really really bad

She's gone to bed early too

>>68284957
oops

>>68284957
>>>/brit/

>>68285021
yeah I know

>>68270205
Ehhhhh...

>>68283723
kek is this real?
>>68284162
also poland everyone understands your huge butthurt over russia but you just take it over the line every time and stop sucking american dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4bIn_hrCz4

>>68285021
>>>>/brit/

>>>/brit/