Quebec

Cold.
Don't come here.

>>68212121
well i am coming in only a few weeks

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>>68212090

Women from Quebec have the most attractive accent

Quebec City is awesome

Go to Montreal and enjoy the degeneracy. Also learn some a little french and insist on speaking it to them. My french is nightmare tier bad and I insist on speaking it when there and it makes them sick to their stomachs it's so bad.

Why does everyone talk about Quebec strip clubs?

>>68212389
because quebec women are the most beautiful in the world

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>>68212090

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>>68212415
>quebec women are the most beautiful in the world
Are you sure about that?

>>68212090
Hows quebec and the area compared to vermont?

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>>68212421
>Lévis plus européen que le basé Saguenay
?????????????????????????????

>>68212444
Quebec is the size of an entire European country.
Vermont is a tiny spec on the globe.

>complain about anglo-Canada but depend on them economically
>their businesses are super corrupt (with a particular emphasis on bribery, see SNC Lavalin)
>have an immigrant investor program that basically just gets free money from wealthy chinese people who don't move to Quebec but just buy a lot of Vancouver/Toronto real estate
>apart from Montreal, its almost exclusively french-canadian because of language barriers and insulated communities and a complete lack of job opportunities

>>68212467
How about compared to New England?

>>68212467
Quebec is the size of several european countries.

>>68212467
>Quebec is the size of an entire European country.
>Vermont is a tiny spec on the globe.
There are a lot of small European countries.
Texas dwarfs Quebec.

DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT VERMONT

>>68212538
>french
>blue eyes
cmon

>>68212090
>any Québécois want to tell me about Quebec?
Please stay away

We don't want you, nor do we want your attention. Please kindly delete this thread.

>>68212090
they like to bitch about how French use "parking", "stop" and wee-end", but in Québec, you can commonly hear shit like

>j'ai spoté une fille, elle était trop cute avec son fan, du coup j'ai cancélé mon trip avec ma gang et lui ai payé une can

>>68212467
m8, Québec is almost 3x bigger than France, that is already the biggest European country (if you exclude Russia of course).

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>>68212572
Lol

>>68212572
Quebec is twice as big as texas

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>>68212389
They are far and away the best, and Québécois girls are the cutest

>>68212607
>j'ai spoté
no

>avec son fan
???

I literally have no idea what you're even trying to say. Are you talking about an éventail ?

Also, you're completely and utterly deluded if you think European francophones are somehow immune to anglicisms. I could just as easily cherrypick a very specific sentence which would have just as many anglicisms. But it would be just like the sentence you posted: extremely cherrypicked and not at all natural sounding (not to mention probably wrong in some respects, just like the sentence you posted).

>>68212607
>Québec is almost 3x bigger than France, that is already the biggest European country

Yeah, and Quebec has a smaller population than the Paris metropolitan area, literally all of whom live along the St. Lawrence river in the south of the province.

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>>68212696
>mfw all of this empty clay full of wealth and ressources for us québécois

>>68212678
t.Westmounter

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>>68212090
Québécois are the best neighbors and an important part of Canada. Beautiful cities, comfy communities, good food, and great people.

>>68212678
>Are you talking about an éventail ?

Yes.

And if I say this, it's because I heard all of them when I was there (even if, as you said, I somehow blended everything to make it more caricatural).

My point is not to deny the fact European languages have some anglicisms, it was just to say Québec is bitching a lot about this while using MUCH MORE of them than any European country.

>>68212727
most of it is tundra and bogs

>>68212727
Good, I guess the rest of Canada can stop paying for your communist social programs.

>>68212757
Yes, there are a lot of liberal blogs in Quebec.

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>>68212675
I watch 19-2 whenever we get it here on the French channels in Ontario for Leboeuf. It's surprisingly good for domestically made TV.

>>68212671
I was comparing culture

>>68212675
I want quebecois gf

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>>68212090
>>68212253
Fuck off we are full mate.

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>>68212675
>Québécois girls are the cutest

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>>68212090

>>68212760
Fuck off with this jew "muh shekels" shit. Just shut up and do the only thing you're good at, sending Québec, the Maritimes, and Newfoundland, money so we can actually give Canada some culture and a unique identity that isn't just America North.

>>68212804
Funny how the top row of meme pictures are now of culturally insignificant people.

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>>68212574
dude have you ever been to quebec, most people here have blue eyes.

>>68212834
Ah yes, and here I thought every single one of the girls in a province of over 8 million would be 10/10.

>>68212727
lolno

1) it's full of injuns who live worse than fucking Africans and cost us a fortune compared to what they provide

2) it's extremely remote, thus making it very difficult to actually turn any sort of profit on it (just look at the insane amount of money they initially wanted to spend in the Plan Nord just on building a single fucking road)

3) Our politicians are corrupt spineless fucks who give away our ressources to foreigners in exchange for extremely temporary gains. In fact, it's been like this for pretty much our entire history (which shows just how much of a fucking colonial mentality we've always had), and it's the main reason why nowadays all of Mauricie is a shithole, as well as towns such as Gagnon, Schefferville, Thetford Mines, Asbestos, etc.

My honest opinion is that we should just entirely give up on all clay that's just populated by injuns (while still keeping our glorious hydroelectricity, of course). It would solve quite a lot of problems.

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>>68212834
>pansexual unicorn

What the fuck is this supposed to be?

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>>68212903
Is that Justin Bieber pretending to be Jessica Bieber?

>>68212903
>La Quebecois """"""Anglo""""""

>>68212752
>it was just to say Québec is bitching a lot about this while using MUCH MORE of them than any European country
Much more? Not really. I agree that in colloquial speech it's definitely more, but if you look at more formal speech Europeans use quite a bit more. And it also depends on the exact topic, for example when talking about auto mechanics, Québécois use way more anglicisms, but when talking about clothing French use way more.

Point is, don't overestimate your own linguistic situation; you aren't good by any means, even when compared to us (which is saying a lot).

>>68212939
That many exclamation points makes me think French
Francophones use them a lot more than Anglos

>>68212979
Jokes on you, I'm from Mississauga.

>>68212752
>he thinks Québécois use a lot of anglicisms

Try listening to some Acadien-Chiac from Nouveau-Brunswick

https://youtu.be/h4n5FPwpfcY

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>>68212898
>Asbestos, QC

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>>68213035
>J-o-u-e-t
>Toy

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Je veux une femme québécoise.

Je ne aime pas le québécois accent cependant, et c'est un problème.

(Nah c'est un mensonge)

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>>68212839
>quebec
goddamn I could watch these people all day

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>>68213088
>Je veux une femme québécoise.
Moé itou

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>>68213088
Prendrais-tu celle là ?

>>68212090
It's a great place for francophones to live, not so great for anglophones

the fact that it isn't bilingual, and the only official language is french, while under a british monarchy and in a majority anglophone nation is a good symbol of how cooperative and counter-productive they are for the nation

Quebec City should have an NHL team

>>68213344
You're just butthurt that you failed to assimilate us after 256 year

i didn't read this thread yet i bet there's a ton of angry albertans in here already

>>68213435
why would we assimilate after that whole plains of abraham thingy

>>68212427
>montréal

>>68212607
wesh la mifa, cimer pour les critiques

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>>68213344
It's something I respect about them TBQHWY. Considering how cucked the rest of Canada is we sold out everything we are for multiculturalism. Considering we dont have thousands of years of history from which to draw upon we quickly destroyed or commercialized what identity anglo Canada had for bullshit made up by leftists.

>>68213471
why would we assimilate after centuries of being told to speak white?

fun fact: most anglos are unaware of this

>>68213514
>speak white
This is reddit tier victim complex kek

>>68213514
>why would we assimilate after centuries of being told to speak white?
because those years have past, it's that same train of thought that has led to many native tribes rejecting any sort of government intervention to better the reserves
just because the government used to intervene and it was bad, doesn't mean that years later and after many prejudices have been broken we are just going to treat you like shit

>>68213503
2bh look east of quebec and you'll see people who were willing to assimilate into canada and keep their unique identities

>>68213591
really? because if you would listen to the anglos living in montreal, you would think they were being moved into concentration camps

just because of laws that dictate that french on signs is a requirement, top kek

>>68213294
Les blondes femmes avec yeux sombres sont les meilleurs!!

>>68213503
Newfoundland and Maritimes are Anglo and didn't sell out. But you're right about it being a commendable part of Québec and New Brunswick.

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>>68212090
Atlantic Canada = Québec > Praries > Ontario > B.C. > Territoires

>>68212727
If you leave you lose all that clay. Just be wary of that.

>>68214019
i heard that statement parroted by every anglo yet i never saw any evidence of that

>>68213435
ça, c'est drôle

>>68214080
It's irrelevant because Quebec will never become independent.

Quebec has its chance and now most of those people who could have made a difference are dead or not willing to risk their retirement.

>>68213946
your opinion isn't wrong

>>68214080
it's mostly said because there would need to be the native reserves' agreement to leave also, and many like things how they are

so if quebec ended up leaving there would be so many native bands resisting that most of the borders above the st lawrence would turn int oa jackson pollock

>>68214137
>anglos speaking for natives/any other minority
typical

>>68214162
why would natives choose to join a newly forming nation that has an uncertain future and rejects multiculturalism, when they reside under a government that already pays them handsomely?

>>68214191
i don't know, try asking them about it first and maybe you'll know

>>68214200
>what is oka 2.0

>>68213756
Le nom est avant l'adjectif, mon ami

>>68214215
how is oka related

the oka crisis happened because some people were trying to build golf courses on their land

>>68214200
http://www.thesudburystar.com/ur/story/870815

http://global-economics.ca/dth.chap7.htm

here are some pieces on why they wouldn't leave with you

but seriously, what would quebec offer them that the canadian government couldn't?

it would seem totally out of character for natives to join a nation that wishes to retain a singular identity and culture

>>68214299
>what seems to be an opinion article
>web 1.0 era site
good job

>>68214322
can you offer any reason why they would want to join a nation seeking a singular identity or culture?

>>68214260
I mean I really don't care either way but you really think they'd separate from the rest of the First Nations? What would they gain?

>>68214341
not having to deal with the RCMP anymore desu

>>68214363
>not having to deal with the RCMP
....really? having less policing in regions with high domestic abuse, drug abuse and high level corruption?

>>68214408
>he says as the RCMP spends their time raping their women

>>68214711
>police stop countless law infractions and arrest countless people for breaking the law
>a single officer breaks the law
>"GET OUTTA HERE POLICE!!!!!"

yes, how much better society would be without the rcmp

>>68214806
did i mention the time the RCMP committed arson?

>>68214826
no, but my point still stands

how will removing a police service from an area make it a better place?

>>68214843
you do know that the natives have their own police forces on the reserve right

>>68214850
which usually don't work as well as outside police forces, and often are corrupt themselves due to lack of outside oversight
t. have had first hand experience on reserves (labrador) and have relatives who spent years teaching there

>>68214879
still better than dealing with the RCMP which spends its time spying on citizens and committing various other crimes

>>68214900
except not really, have you ever had any account with native policing before?

there is almost no professionalism to them, ignore large scale drug abuse and drug trafficking, make almost no attempt at solving domestic abuse, etc etc

if you have spent any time in or near native reserves you would be humming a different tune

>>68214933
>except not really, have you ever had any account with native policing before?
yes, my dad had to work on them many times before

they don't fuck around

>>68214944
by on them i mean the reserves, of course

in any case, why would we even want the native land? they're africa-tier

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>>68212090
very nice place.

there's plenty of jobs, free healthcare, beautifull landscapes, hot weather during summer and lot of snow during winter (less than before tho)

Because we have some socialist habits, by paying lots of taxes and by getting plenty of free services provided by our government, we are very open minded and treat eachother equally.

We are a relatively small nation in a ocean of anglophones (Canadians to the west and Americans to the south) so I dont think that theres something that could make a Quebecer more happier than to so see someone that decided to move to Québec/ came to Québec on vacation / or when a company from Québec succeed around the globe or when our culture do. We are always happy to meet new people.

Pardon my shitty english by the way.

But like everywhere, nothing is perfect.

We are francophone, but we (unfortunately) are still part of Canada.

Being a small nation of 8 million people surrounded by nearly 380 million anglophones scares the shit out of us. So we are always stressing about our culture's future.

That being said, when we see immigrants that does not integrate our society, some of us might get irritated. Especially when those people are anglophones, because that gives us the feeling that we're getting infiltrated by our supreme ennemy; the anglophones (lol, but true). Reason why we are overly happy to see immigrants speaking french.

anyway, i think that we are cool people, not worse or better than other, and that Québec is a very nice place to live or to visit.

and if i have one advice for you if you wanna have a good opinion of Québec: ask anybody but not a Canadian (they hate us more than we hate them), especially on 4chan cuz everybody is always mad here lol.

Longue vie à tous et vive le Québec libre sti

>>68214944
well, with any reserve, due to their near-autonomy, its definitely a case by case basis, but still, the few reserves ive seen have high levels of crime and asymmetrical wealth distribution to say the least
>>68214965
it's not particularly that you would want the land, it's the headache of firmly agreeing with each and every native tribe in your province on land disputes, whether or not some would stay, if they stay writing up a new set of laws dictating native rights and autonomy, etc

there are at least 11 distinct native groups in your nation, each with several reserves, so it would be a long process of going over this

>>68215013
i was too lazy to write something so i'll just agree with this

>>68215013
>(they hate us more than we hate them)
well for one we don't view you as the "supreme enemy"

>>68214711
there is no RCMP in Québec (or just symbolic). We have la Sûreté du Québec our provincial police

>>68215104
They still do things in Quebec, like burning down barns of people they don't agree with.

>>68212277
Meh

>>68215153
that was 44 years ago, and they states that was an unlawful act afterwards

>>68215193
It still happened in Quebec 44 years ago.

We're not talking about something that happened 200 years ago.

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>>68215013
>and if i have one advice for you if you wanna have a good opinion of Québec: ask anybody but not a Canadian (they hate us more than we hate them)

Pourquoi tu mens ?

>>68212744
>>68212792
>>68212825
>>68212839
>>68213344
>>68213503
>>68213791
>>68213946

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>>68215180
Try Québec City

Quebec would implode as an independent country without the benefit of all that Western Canadian "equalization" welfare money.

>>68215310
t. Albertan who lives really close to the border

>>68215273
comfy

>>68215319
I'm from New England and I like Quebecois culture tbf

>>68215329
Massfag master race?

>>68215329
btw
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-02/canada-jobless-rate-unexpectedly-falls-as-labor-force-shrinks

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>quebec give you a (You)

>>68215385
Yeah, I am from Boston, and you?
>>68215390
A lot of jobs are being added to make the unemployment rate better here and in Canada, but those include part time jobs.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3102173/canadas-unemployment-rate-dips-to-6-8-as-10700-mostly-part-time-jobs-added/

Your own article also says, "part of the reason the jobless rate fell was 20,300 dropped out of the labor force, the most since since December 2014."

At the end of the day, Quebec has never been a net contributor to equalization payments and I don't see how it could stand on its own as a nation even if the majority of people wanted it, which they don't.

>>68215211
a sole incident isn't really reflective of an entire organization, just as I don't generalize the entire separatist movement in quebec as FLQ or FLQ sympathizers

>>68215484
A sole incident? Come the fuck on, it's been happening for decades.

>>68215310
An independent Quebec would collapse immediately, it would be a failed state from day one. This is why I have no respect for the Quebec separatists. It isn't a real nationalist movement, they are incapable of standing on their own two feet and taking care of their own shit, Quebec nationalists are just whiney children stamping their feet and crying for more gibs from the rest of Canada.

>>68215518
>almost separate
>cheat like crazy at the referendum
>whine that we didn't separate
lol canada

>>68215499
after the FLQ terrorism that killed several high ranking individuals within the province, proactive intelligence actions were even justified by a french canadian prime minister

the only reason that the FLQ even died out was because of the mass arrests during Pierre's administration, which gave him thorough and broad information about the terrorist activities

whether the acts or justifiable or not, they usually end up saving lives and stopping domestic terrorism

>>68215586
>several
one
>french canadian prime minister
scottish

still though i guess burning down the property of people you disagree with when you're the law is a great thing to canadians

so is breaking and entering

honestly trudeau's shit was just a taste of things to come with the whole police state climate we live in now

>>68215646
>still though i guess burning down the property of people you disagree with
they burned it down because they thought separatists were meeting with a known militant extremist group called the black panther

>scottish
"Pierre Trudeau was born assisted by a midwife at home at 5779 Durocher Avenue, Outremont, Montreal, on October 18, 1919,[8] to Charles-Émile "Charley" Trudeau, a French-Canadian businessman and lawyer, and Grace Elliott, who was of mixed Scottish and French-Canadian descent"
yes how scottish indeed

>>68215831
yes, "thought", that's the key word right there, they also did it because they couldn't get a warrant

it's honestly disgusting how willing canadians are to defend their ONE remaining cultural symbol, and it's the symbol of oppression more than anything else, while claiming that they're some multi-cultural wonderland and SO much better than america (pro tip: you're not)

>>68215876
it just feels so weird to me that someone that hasn't seen barely any first hand anglo canadian oppression over francophones can develop such a victim complex

you have your own legal system
you have your own language rights
you have your own cultural rights
you have your own schools
etc. etc.

and yet you still feel persecuted today? wew

>>68215958
>changes the subject
incredible tactic desu

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>>68212090
How good does my French have to be to get by in Montreal? Je connais francaise ecrite et quelque francaise diré. Je veux a ameliorer mes francaise et devenir bilingual.

Also, I know that there are a few officially English municipalities in Montreal (15% of the population are Anglophones) where everything is in English, but the rest of the city outside those Anglo enclaves is French.

pic related are English/Bilingual municipalities of Montreal.

>>68216028
i think most people would be happy to see you try at least

don't feel bad if they switch to english

>>68215999
i didn't change the topic, you were complaining about anglo oppresion over quebecois and i pointed out you guys have pretty much all of your own institutions, francophone rights, and you have most likely never seen this oppression first-hand

The Prime Minister of Canada is an MP from Montreal.
Does that mean anything to Quebecois?

>>68216076
no, because as soon as they represent a population that isn't exclusively french canadian they view it as some sort of betrayal

>>68216076
He has French blood, but his soul is Anglo.

>>68212090
its a Sabbat city. Last thing I heard Alfred Benezri was runnin the joint.

>>68216062
yes and i was talking about a part of the federal government behaving unlawfully multiple times on quebec territory

>>68216076
he and his father are both traitors, he enacted martial law over a kidnapping and got 400-500 people arrested

>>68216109
>yes and i was talking about a part of the federal government behaving unlawfully multiple times on quebec territory
which was stated as unlawful by the federal government and isn't even an issue today

please direct me to any abuse of power by a federal official towards pro-separatist individuals in the past 5 years

>>68216146
>please direct me to any abuse of power by a federal official towards pro-separatist individuals in the past 5 years
The National Hockey League didn't give Quebec a hockey team

>>68216146
>it didn't happen in the past 5 years, therefore the quebecois shouldn't complain
typical federalist mentality

>>68212090
>nice place
>stop signs say ARRÊT
Pretty good neighbors tbqh

t. Vermonter

>>68216158
if quebecois persecution doesn't happen anymore, and the incidents have been recognized and apologized for, why do you still feel persecuted?

>>68216218
the canadian government didn't apologize for rigging 1995 though ;^)

but yeah, have you seen any anglo media otherwise? it doesn't have to be federal

>>68212572
>There are a lot of small European countries.
True. Several European countries are smaller than Vermont.
>Texas dwarfs Quebec.
Nope.
>DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT VERMONT
That's a kinda unchill reaction for a Vermonter. Are you ok, buddy?

>>68216259
>rigging
good luck finding a reputable source to have any evidence of that

>but yeah, have you seen any anglo media otherwise?

what do you mean by this

>>68212090
the company I work for subtitles tv for deaf people and from time to time I have to do Quebec stuff like something called Roulette that's hilariously bad. these people are cartoon tier

>>68216326
>good luck finding a reputable source to have any evidence of that
look up the sponsorship scandal, there's more to it than that but that's a big one

there's also the countless amount of propaganda that still exists to this day (muh partitioning, muh collapse)

>what do you mean by this
go read the montreal gazette

>>68216346
what the fuck is roulette

>>68216358
>"Controversy arose over whether the Deputy Returning Officers of the Chomedey, Marguerite-Bourgeois and Laurier-Dorion ridings had improperly rejected ballots. In these ridings the "No" vote was dominant, and the proportion of rejected ballots was 12%,[121] 5.5% and 3.6%.[122][123] Thomas Mulcair, member of the Quebec National Assembly for Chomedey, told reporters that there was "an orchestrated attempt to steal the vote" in his riding.[121] A study released months after the referendum by McGill University concluded that ridings with a greater amount of "No" votes had a higher percentage of rejected ballots.Directeur général des élections du Québec (DGEQ), Pierre F. Cote, launched an inquiry into the alleged irregularities, supervised by the Chief Justice of the Quebec Superior Court, Alan B. Gold. All ballots of the three ridings plus a sample of ballots from other ridings were examined. The inquiry concluded that some ballots had been rejected without valid reasons, but the incidents were isolated. The majority of the rejected ballots were "No" votes, in proportion to the majority of the valid votes in those districts."
aka, more "no" votes were rejected than "yes" votes in the ridings suspected of rigging

>go read the montreal gazette
what would i be looking for? im not sure what you're implying

>>68216426
>what would i be looking for? im not sure what you're implying
literally any article about the french language in quebec

>>68216377
some kind of local news show (there's one for Quebec, one for Saguenay, one for Mauricie and one for Estrie) that's "presented" (it's just an off screen voice) by Laure Desjardins-Dufresne
there are a lot of local people interviews and most of the time I don't even understand what they say, be it because of the accent or the ridiculous phrasing

>>68216470
jamais entendu parler peh

>>68216470
Someone told me once that they speak more proper french in Quebec than in France.....
is this true?

>>68216536
there's no such thing as proper

africans don't speak it though

>>68216452
>literally any article about the french language in quebec
I searched up language and only see corruption and faction-based bureaucracy in your school boards, again, what am i looking for?
>>68216536
french canadians speak a dialect that no longer exists in france, as french settlers moved here before the french language was standardized in europe
i don't know if that's what you mean

>>68216566
i don't have time for this retarded argument anymore, it's clearly going nowhere

in any case, canadian news have always treated this province in such a disgusting manner that i wish their establishments would just burn down

>>68216566
yeah that's what i think
they were saying how quebec french is more french than france french

>>68213612

top kek

I actually had that conversation with two anglos when I moved to downtown montreal and had to go register to vote before the last elections. They were straight up telling me that the only difference between Marois and Hitler was that she hadn't moved them to concentration camps yet. I started laughing my ass off and they got offended and accused me of being francophone so I wouldn't understand. I continued laughing and registered and left.

>>68216601

That's just a hyperbole. French canadians are good at shitposting IRL.

>>68216487
ben regarde ta télé alors (je crois que c'est VTélé ou quelque chose comme ça la chaîne)

>>68216536
sometimes they have phrasings that are technically correct but that are never used anymore in France, sometimes it's pants on head retarded adaptation from english, like "bleuettes" from blueberries or "canisse" from canister

>>68216614
hah, yeah

the funny thing about marois' term is that the anglos have already forgotten that someone waltzed into the metropolis with a rifle and molotov cocktails to make an attempt on her life

then he gets arrested and goes "LES ANGLAIS SE SONT RÉVEILLÉS"

>>68216597
>in any case, canadian news have always treated this province in such a disgusting manner that i wish their establishments would just burn down
lovely facts you've given me, but if you want to take the sensationalist mindset rather than present any facts, then go ahead
i personally have seen very little articles on quebec from anglo news sources in general, nevermind ones that cast an unfair prejudice towards quebecois
but if you want to keep feeling butthurt among your french canadian hugbox by rejecting any anglo media's critique of quebec, go ahead

>>68216650
>critique
lol ok

>>68216665
oh im sorry, did i appropriate your language?

>>68216691
nah you're just a faggot for thinking the anglo media could ever be objective about quebec

>>68216739
and you as well for thinking quebecois media for could ever be objective over the topic of "anglo oppression" of quebec

>>68216765
>implying
all you have to do is go read the anglo medias to see it, it's not that hard

>>68216650

Remember when Montreal mayor Denis Coderre said that Enbridge hadn't done enough to ensure that the energy east pipeline wouldn't leak and pollute rivers and lakes around the Saint-Lawrence and a slew of anglo media plus Saskatchewan's PM got butthurt and said that equalization payments gave them the right to pass the pipeline whether we liked it or not?

That was classy haha

Ahh, a good old Canada battle.

Let me take a page out of Ralph Klein's playbook and say: «Let the western bastards freeze in the dark».

this is my most successful thread yet

>>68216765
>>68216790
by the way i actually think quebec's medias are pure trash as well, but at least they don't spend their time shitting on the rest of canada

they do get really annoying when they find a meme and stick on it for months though, like the whole pitbull thing

>>68216827

Québec and Canada are so tsundere.

You just have to start a thread with something like: «Canada would have no culture without Québec.» or «Québec would have no economy without Canada.» and you watch the shitposting begin.

>>68216790
>all you have to do is go read the anglo medias to see it, it's not that hard
and yet you still weren't even able to reference a single incident of federal (aka anglo) abuse of power towards oppressing quebec in the past 5 years
>>68216146
>>68216158
as referenced in above

>>68216811
>Remember when Montreal mayor Denis Coderre said that Enbridge hadn't done enough to ensure that the energy east pipeline wouldn't leak and pollute rivers and lakes around the Saint-Lawrence and a slew of anglo media plus Saskatchewan's PM got butthurt and said that equalization payments gave them the right to pass the pipeline whether we liked it or not?
remember the countless times you've strong-armed eastern power companies from being able to sell energy directly to the US?

>>68216883
>frog quotation marks

DELET THIS NOW

>>68216883
>>68216941
i love Québec and Canada

>>68212508
>>68212760
>>68213514
>>68213612
>>68215518
Can anybody explain the animosity between anglophone and francophone canadians to me?
Why is there so much hatred (that seems to come especially from the anglophones)?

>>68217008
i'm sorry to say that i don't think you'll ever get an objective explanation here

i don't even think i could do it

>>68216904

Hey we look out for our interests, as does everyone.

I have a doozy for you: Search for the David Levine affair. Read the articles about him in the Ottawa press at the time. Pretty great stuff!

http://montrealgazette.com/opinion/columnists/are-you-guilty-of-quebec-bashing-consult-our-handy-checklist
>tfw articles like this exist

>>68217008
It dates back in time from when there was Upper Canada and Lower Canada.
Lower Canada was basically land that the British gave to the French colonists to shut them up and not revolt despite having a distinct, non English culture. There was always a sort of animosity between the two.

Eventually in the post WW2 era Quebec started growing discontent with the way Anglophone businessmen were treating them.
There were the rich anglos and the poor proletariat francophones. Companies like Pepsi and Coca Cola highlight this devide where Coca would fail to Pepsi in highlighting the desires of the lower wealth income bracket.

At some point a nationalist lead Quebec through what many call the dark years where economic stability rained but human rights of city workers got worse.
He got into power and stayed there for something like 13 years transforming the province into a place that hates the anglo capitalist pig.
Sentiment like that has mostly died down since then, but there's still a sort of "Those guys over there" feel between the two provinces and anti capitalist sentiment.

>>68212090
It is just like France


Which mean a godless nigger-filled shithole.

>>68217318
no nigs outside montreal

everyone here is thoroughly disgusted by muslims but we keep getting shit on when we try to ban burkas

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/lisee-does-the-full-trump-to-sway-pq-faithful/article32174178/
man those anglo medias sure are objective

>>68217332
Still godless
Still filled with godless whores
Still filled with algerian-niggers
Still low birthrate

The quiet revolution was a mistake, fuck Kikegaulle, you should have followed the Duplessis family instead.

>>68217256
Thanks for the reply
Referring to this comment
>>68213612 and >>68213344
Why is the language thing such a big deal? It seems reasonable that people would want their official language to be the language of their region despite what they may speak elsewhere

I used to live 3 hours straight south of Montreal and I always regret not visiting

>>68217441
anglos can't stand not being #1

>>68217441
Francophones think Anglos are like this guy >>68217455
It's a fear based argument that if they let down their guard for anything their culture will be destroyed.

If you go to Montreal nowadays though, everyone is bilingual. Outside of Quebec, I wouldn't know the sentiments.

>>68217523
>It's a fear based argument that if they let down their guard for anything their culture will be destroyed.
because it very nearly happened, and HAS happened with other french speaking communities in north america
>If you go to Montreal nowadays though, everyone is bilingual.
keep misinforming people like that, can't wait to see them come back on here and go "wtf people don't speak english and they're rude xD"

>>68217550
You speak English though and you go to a highly Americanized website.
And while you say that some cultures have been changed by Americanization, you could also look at how resistance to change has caused them large economic problems.
Foreign investors do not like Quebec and our dollar is not strong enough to create large global companies to create lots of jobs.

>>68217008

1/2

1755 to 1764: deportation of the acadians

1760: conquest of Nouvelle France by the british

>Occupation; french elites go back to France, Catholic clergy stays

1774: Acte de Québec - Brewing revolution in the 13 colonies, the british want to prevent a war on two fronts and give french canadians almost everything they've been asking for ( french civil law and the right to remain catholic ) therefore french canadians don't join the united states.

1837-38 - «Rebellion of the patriots»: 4000 lower canada nationalists (mainly french canadians but scots and irish were among the leaders) lead a revolt against the british but are quickly defeated by a force of 33 000 loyalists and orangists (basically protestant supremacists). Hundreds are deported to Australia, the leaders are hung (not far from where I live actually...).

1840 - Act of Union (constitution adopted in Great Britain) abolishes legislative assemblies of Upper Canada (Ontario) and Lower Canada (Québec) and institutes one legislative assembly for all of Canada. Article 41 states that all legislative documents will be made only in english. This is later changed. East Canada (Québec) is now more populous than West Canada and majoritarily french but the executive council is essentially named by the colonial powers and has really most of the political powers.

>Only real position of prestige open to french canadians is clergy while other positions of power and wealth accumulation are held by english

1867 - British North America Act - basically the constitution of Canada but often amended

1885 - Execution of Louis Riel, a prominent Métis (mix of french and native) nationalist from Manitoba for rebelling against Canada. He was loved by french canadians and his execution angered many.

WW1: Canada institutes draft to fight on behalf of the british crown. Angers many french canadians including mayor Camilien Houde who goes to prison for telling french canadians to defy the draft.

>>68217613
Yes, in English territory I speak English. I don't go to Ontario and expect to get served in French.
>you could also look at how resistance to change has caused them large economic problems.
I'm not too smart politically, but is this what they call globalism? I don't want any of that shit.

>>68217349

hahahaha Holy Shit

I can't believe how disingenuous they are

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how mcuh is truth and how much bullshit?

>>68217008
>>68217656

2/3

WW2: Another draft. People are angry again although many french canadians went voluntarily like litteral supersoldier Léo Major ( read up on the guy, it's crazy). Angry draft dodgers are then ashamed of themselves when concentration camps are discovered. Fun fact: future prime minister René Lévesque was a war correspondent and saw first hand the liberation of the Dachau concentration camp while attached to the american army's 45th division. He was profoundly affected by it.

1950's: called «the great darkness» in Québec when a conservative nationalist politician called Maurice Duplessis reigned over the province. His campaign slogan? «Heaven is blue, Hell is red.» referring to the red logo of the opposing liberal party. He is often seen accompanied by the archbishop. Counties that voted for him would have their roads paved, counties that did not wouldn't so you would get paving, gravel, paving on the same road. Some hydroelectricity companies started popping up but the service was very uneven across the province with some regions still not having electricity.

1960: Election of Jean Lesage's liberal party. Slogan: «Masters in our own home.» One of the most transformative political mandates ever.
1961: Québec medical insurance
1961: First Québec delegation established in Paris
1962: Minister of natural ressources René Lévesque nationalises Hydroelectricity and forms Hydro-Québec which will become an enormously important and profitable State asset.
1963: Québec delegation to London
1964: Education is nationalised, secularized and mandatory until 16 years old.
1965: Quebec Deposit and Investment Fund created; Québec national pension fund created

> This period is called the quiet revolution and is characterized by extremely rapid modernisation, urbanisation and deconfessionalization. Historians sometimes extend it into the 70's up until the first referendum.

>>68218172

It's pretty true except there is no hard evidence of the «no» side cheating in the 1995 referendum. There is some evidence that they may have spent more money on their campaign than they were allowed but the election itself had so many international observers that I doubt there was considerable election fraud. Not 100% sure though. Canadian authorities likely would've wanted to «save» their country as it is by any means... Mostly, though, québécois were divided right down the middle. It separated some families and now people hate to think about another referendum. I blame french canadians in the Québec City region who didn't majoritarily enough for independance because they're bureaucrats and cucks.

>>68217656
>>68218316
>>68218510
Would it be accurate to say francophone Canadians have historically been treated like a colonised people?

>>68218999
i guess so

i can't believe france thought sugar was better than fucking north america

>>68217008
>>68218316

3/3

1970 - October crisis: federal minister of transport Pierre Laporte and british diplomat James Cross are kidnapped by the Québec Liberation Front. Pierre Laporte is later found dead in the trunk of a car. War measures act: rights are lifted. People linked closely or not to the independance movement are arrested for no reason. Students, professors, artists, writers, etc. Strong interrogations. Mock executions even. Dictatorial stuff in a modern democracy. Breeds even more resentment from nationalists towards Ottawa.

1976 - election of the Parti Québécois of René Lévesque, an openly separatist party. anglos lose their shit. Another terrific and transformative mandate.

1977 - Bill 101 officialises the primacy of french in the province of Québec. Everyone is now required to send their kids to french schools unless at least one of the parents went to an english school. Anglos lose their shit even more. They haven't stopped about this one since.

Pierre-Elliot Trudeau says to the american congress that a secession of Québec would be a «crime against the history of mankind». Pulling no punches there.

1980 - first referendum. 60% vote to stay.

1995 - second referendum. 94% of the population votes. 50,6% vote no.

>The rest of Canada obviously gets butthurt at those attempts at secession and amplify their denigration of french canadians which is best exemplified by the David Levine affair

>Lake meech accord fails, the québécois feel betrayed

2000's: A project to fusion all the municipalities of the island of Montreal in one city is implemented despite west island anglos being butthurt that they will have to live in the same municipality as the french canadians of the rest of the island. The now anglofied liberal party promises to defusion them, they lock down anglo counties forever and win and defusion them.

Now we again have a liberal government and they might be the shittiest that this province has ever seen.

>>68219100
>Bill 101 officialises the primacy of french in the province of Québec. Everyone is now required to send their kids to french schools unless at least one of the parents went to an english school. Anglos lose their shit even more. They haven't stopped about this one since.
I laugh at this one every time.

They're so in denial that they usually lose their shit when you tell them that teaching french in anglo provinces was outright banned, too.

>>68219123
>teaching french in anglo provinces was outright banned, too.


True. Kathleen Winne had to apologise in the name of Ontario for that not long ago. The damage is already done though. Just listen to Nathan Beaulieu, par exemple.

>>68213396
I love you

We stereotype them as being cool people, probably because their accent is fun and make them sound funny. Those I encountered were actually really nice.