What do they think about each other nowadays?

Poland and polish immigrants are okay, polish posters here are butthurt fuccbois though. I don't think that they represent the majority of their country though.

>>68184058
German gov is fucking pooland in the ass, pooland is losing shitton of money because of that.

That we need to get along no matter what because history shows that both countries often get fucked over the most if theres a war.
I got nothing against germans and the only thing that annoys me is their refugees wilkommen thing forced on the whole eu just by this country alone.

>>68184058
butthurt krauts keep shitting on Poland and they get mad when we respond with truth

poland/goymen relationship

(poland is the male)


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1ba_1480747768

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I just wish they stopped trying to colonize us via EU already.

That being said, Germans in general are kind, nice and hardworking people - unlike R*ssians.

Historically, Poland ans Germany never were enemies, not really. It was Prussian warmongering that constantly pushed us to conflicts with Germanic people. Now, since Prussia is no more, we can go back to good old days when we used to bro up against Muslims with >H>R>E.

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>>68184058
I honestly wish we were friends, but with our geopolitical positions, historical background, and recent tensions in the EU I don't think it's possible ;_;

>>68184703
>Germans
>needing to get along with poles

lmao xD

Germanics - a race of warriors who civilized the world

slavs - slaves

just because you suck dick of your western overlords doesn't mean they share the sentiment

>>68185016
you're retarded we were never friends and modern Germans are descendants of said warmongering Prussians what makes you think they suddenly like you just because the country has different name?

>>68186296
Is it spooky having a border with Russia?

>>68186397
Not really, just look how small they are.

>>68185016
lol, you where fighting back then as well, remember the teutonic order?

>>68186353
And where do you fit in, in all of this? Comedy releif? Asylum patient?

>>68186353
>Germanics
>Civilizing anything

we where savages who rolled around in the mud while the rest of the world built great civilizations.

Stupid pollock

>>68185016
>Historically, Poland ans Germany never were enemies
I wish I could agree with you, but this is nonsense. We were enemies since day one, long before Prussia was germanized.
The very name "Niemcy" tells a lot about our relations.

>>68186566
>we

sure thing Jamal lmao

>>68186615
Hohol detected

>>68185016
Sorry man but we were to you what the french were to us most of the time.

>>68186614
our first king literally grew up in Germany and was friends with the king

>>68186705
Except you never managed to beat the Poles in battle. Meanwhile France scrubbed the floor with you for hundreds of years.

>>68186734
And that somehow invalidates all the wars we had?

Kill yourself you're a typical dicksucking polack.

>>68184058
if you dont ive near the border then poland might as well not exist

except for carstealing jokes

>>68186391
And you are historically illiterate.

"Holy" "Roman" "Empire" was a long time ally of the Commonwealth. We were always at least neutral with them, in worst case. We supported HRE Catholics during 30 years war, as well as sent troops to defend Vienna in 1683. There was no hostility from HRE against Poland since the times of Bolesław Krzywousty.

>Germans are descendants of said warmongering Prussians
Wrong again. As I said, Prussia ceased to exist. The only descendants of modern day Prussians would be Branderburgians, at best. Inhabitants of vast majority of German lands - Like Saxony, Hessen, Bavary - never were considered enemies of Poland.

>>68186493
Again, wrong. Teutonic Order was a precursor of Prussian state. At the time when were at war against Teutonic Order, we were on good terms with HRE.

You have to remember two things:
1. Concept of nationality didn't exist in Middle Ages. Teutonic Order was more of an international corporation rather than an ethnic national state, though most of its members were of Germanic origin.
2. Germans never were really considered a nation, not to say one nation, not until unification of Germany by Prussians. So telling that we were fighting "Germans" because of our wars against Teutonics is stupid.

>>68186614
>We were enemies since day one
See posts above. We started fighting against HRE after Bolesław Krzywousty. And again - these were feudal wars, not a "national" wars, since, as I said, concept of nationality didn't exist in middle ages.

>The very name "Niemcy" tells a lot
It only tells that Slavic tribes found it hard to communicate with the Germanic tribes, which is no surprise since they were the first non-Slavic language speaking peoples they encountered during their expansion to the west.

>>68186734
>our first king literally grew up in Germany and was friends with the king
and I have a German friend on Steam. So fucking what?
We're talking about states and wars, not about aristocrats and their friendships.

>>68187058
>this entire wall of text

you're all the same people, calm down.

>>68187128
The basic problem is, historic imbeciles like you percieve middle ages politics via modern day standards of national states.

Middle ages wars and states were ALL about aristocrats and their friendships, since the state was considered a property of the ruler. Ethnicity didn't matter that much back then.

>>68187142
Sure thing arab

>>68187142
I am merely trying to explain my fellow compatriots that they are wrong.

>>68187058
>these were feudal wars, not a "national" wars, since, as I said, concept of nationality didn't exist in middle ages.
Do you seriously think there were no prejudices against foreigners speaking different languages?
>Yeah we're just killing each other because the king was pissed off, aside from that we're best buds :^)
Maybe national identity wasn't the same thing it is nowadays, but saying it didn't exist at all is a massive overstatement.

>>68184586
It's not just Germany it's entire Western Europe which is treating us and the rest of former Eastern Bloc as their colonies.

>>68186493
>>68187058
Fun fact about the Teutonic order.
They got a lot of funding from Bohemia, named Königsberg in honor of a Bohemian king and got support from Bohemia in many of their conflicts with Poland.

>>68187304
>Do you seriously think there were no prejudices against foreigners
I didn't say that, however, such "prejudiced" were never an indicator of friendship or hostility inbetween states.

>>Yeah we're just killing each other because the king was pissed off, aside from that we're best buds :^)
Again, you are using the false assumptions as if there was any "we" back in the day.

There was no "we" in the middle ages. Your average Joe was a farmer who considered himself a subject of his king, ruler of the realm. Yeah, there are farmers speaking other language on the other side of the balk. There are also other kings ruling them. From time to time, these kings start stupid wars that ravage our farmlands. That's all.

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>this whole thread
>3 German posts
>20 Polish posts
really made me think

I like polish people but I don't like Poland.

>>68184058
They hate us for no reason.

>>68187185
>sweden

>>68187537
>Implying he's a Swede and not a Pole

>>68187499
Germans don't care about Poland and their relations with Polish state, most of them didn't notice if Poland suddenly stopped existing.

In Poland though, Germany and our relations with them is one of the most important topics in political discourse as they are our richest and most powerful neighbour and largest trading partners.

>>68187537
Yes we have a lot of dirty arabs like you here

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>>68187528

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>>68187528
I wanted to say that about germans

>>68187528
You launched an industrial scale genocide in Poland it's not really "no reason".

>>68187557
>>68187562

t. Pavel Boulistani

>>68187488
Well while it is true that the house of Luxemburg wasn't especially friendly towards Polish state and supported our enemies - as I said, there was no direct conflict between Poland and HRE at that time period.

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>>68187583
more like his ancestors did
ty śmierdząca dupą gówno

>>68187499
Same with us, they want to steal our historic treasures.

>>68187583
That was 70 years ago, the people in Isreal don't give a fuck anymore, why do you?

>>68187626
>they want to steal our historic treasures

You mean take back what is rightfully theirs?

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>>68187644
you should NEVER answer to koriab

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>>68187560
>most of them didn't notice if Poland suddenly stopped existing.
Actually that's bullshit, because
>largest trading partners
this works both ways.
Nobody in recent years has invested as much money in Poland as Germans did, so their businessmen kinda have to give a shit about what happens here.
Then again that doesn't mean an average Hans gives a shit.

>>68187644
70 years is nothing, nor was that the first time you fucked things up... or the last.

No offence but can all of you Germans please die?

>>68187644
Only the countries with no identity forget about the past.
>>68187644
>the people in Isreal don't give a fuck anymore
Yeah that's why Israeli youth is so heavily indoctrinated on the topic of Holocaust...

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>>68187663
Lies!
Sweden and Poland are historical allies, we never did anything against them.

>>68187583
>You launched an industrial scale genocide in Poland it's not really "no reason".
>>>/x/

>>68187695
You cucks supported us so you aren't allowed to complain.

>>68187751
Again, that's a Pierogi, not a Swede.

>>68187695
Also it's always the culprit saying such things.

>just get over it it was 70 years ago dude lmao XD

The thing is what you did in WW2 and it's consequences are still easily noticeable in modern day Poland and it won't go away for the next few decades probably.

>>68187710
Netherlands and France are friendly towards us and we also destroyed them pretty good. The Jews also don't really care anymore, sure they learn a lot about the holocaust but they aren't nearly as butthurt as poles.

>>68187695
>this is bait
Take this (You), Sven.

>>68187644
Well, Israel is far away, and we are not.
Who knows how will you guys sperg out this time, if you run out of patience with rapefugees?
>>68187695
How about you move to Poland already if you're so padriodig, huh lad?

>>68187751
You would have invaded us if we hadn't. Might as well profiteer from the stupid wars that you keep starting.

>>68187774
Yeah they expect people to just forget about it and ignore the German culture and mentality that enabled things like that to happen.

>>68187829
>Netherlands and France are friendly towards us and we also destroyed them pretty good.
The things you did to France and Netherlands aren't nearly comparable to the things you did here. According to the Nazi ideology, Western Europeans even non Germanic were still quite "human-like", occupation in France or the Netherlands wasn't nearly as bad in Poland. You treated us like cattle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_looting_of_Poland

>>68187881
I am not Polish

>>68187488
Another funny fact - there were Poles in Teutonic order during centuries till the secularisation.

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I'm fucking glad that german vermin is dying out and their country is getting trashed by niggers and sandniggers.


Fuck them, they were always scum and inferior niggers destroying everything they don't understand. The only germans I have nothing against are based Bavarians.

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We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
Where they belong

We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
They oughta get the hell out of Europe
And leave the Poland alone

They don't like this, they don't like that
They're never satisfied and that's a fact
They more we give, the more they take
The more we fix, the more they break
The europe's in an awful mess
With a whole lotta civil unrest
I got one thing to suggest
They outta leave, and get gone
Gather up all the krauts
And go away

We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
Where they belong

We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
They oughta get the hell out of Europe
And leave the Poland alone
They want their way, it ain't no doubt
They just keep pushin', they never stop
They don't like the way things are done
They outta go to Africa where they belong
So white people I'm askin' you
Let's buy us a boat or two
And here's what we need to do
Help 'em pack, and be kind
Make sure we don't leave
One kraut behind

And send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
Where they belong
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
They oughta get the hell out of Europe
And leave the Poland alone

Life in Europe would be so great
Without krauts here to demonstrate
'Bout this, and that, and that, and this
And you, and me, and gettin' lands free
Won't you listen to me?

Let's send 'em all back to Africa
Send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
Where they belong
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
We oughta send 'em all back to Africa
They oughta get the hell out of America
And leave the white man alone
They oughta get the hell out of Europe
And leave the Poland alone

>>68188143
10/10

>>68187606
And it wasn't some racial conflict with Slavs vs Germans or Germans vs Poles, as some like to say.

>>68188116
Didn't know that.

Poles are like annoying flies. You tolerate them, but if they annoy you too much, you wrap a newspaper and beat the fly.

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>>68188289
Why is everything a "shit" allegory to the germans?

That pathetic kraut nation should be genocided right after first world war. Did we really need more evidence they're ultimate threat to civilization and peace?

As long as krauts live, as long humanity is in danger.

Solution is simple, Gather all Fritzes, Hanses whatever their kraut name is, send em to showers and then fire up the ovens.

>>68188121
Bavarians are barely German anyhow

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>The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, about equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of German extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000. [...]

>Concerning the males subject to sterilization the army groups, as organized units, would be the easiest and quickest to deal with. Taking 20,000 surgeons as an arbitrary number and on the assumption that each will perform a minimum of 25 operations daily, it would take no more than one month, at the maximum, to complete their sterilization. Naturally the more doctors available, and many more than the 20,000 we mention would be available considering all the nations to be drawn upon, the less time would be required. The balance of the male civilian population of Germany could be treated within three months. Inasmuch as the sterilization of women needs somewhat more time, it may be computed that the entire female population of Germany could be sterilized within a period of three years or less. Complete sterilization of both sexes, and not only one, is to be considered necessary in view of the present German doctrine that so much as one drop of true German blood constitutes a German.

>Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordingly in the span of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplished fact."

>>68187058
>we supported

as usual polacks licked someone's ass and got nothing in return

nice friendship

>>68187644
>Israel don't give a fuck anymore

you're retarded

>>68188420
That's the right idea, although mere sterilization is still way too kind for these monsters.

Every 20 years or so Germany should be carpet-bombed

>>68188429
>as usual polacks licked someone's ass and got nothing in return

why is this such a common pattern throughout Polish history?

>>68184134
I'm so glad you think this way. Also I think that most of 4chan users can be much representative to their countries. Or at least I hope so. I meet and talk with Germans all the time. Obviously I am aware every country has its fair share of idiots. Thankfully I have never met a mean German. We are more alike than others (and sometimes ourselves) think we are.

>>68188665
Polacks are cucks

>>68188680
Being nice is just kraut Taqiyya

>>68184586
Our own current guvernment is fucking us more than anyone else. German policy is not Poland oriented for sure but it's not like we do much to help the situation. Sorry but this is as it is.

>>68188257
>Didn't know that
Yes, as someone mentioned it before - Teutonic Order was more of an international corporation rather than an ethnic national state

Moreover battles between Polish and Teutonic knights were very civilised, there were praising together before battle, duels and common feasts.

+

Our relationships with Germans (means HRE) were good till the unification of Germany and thats because Prussian ethos (which was naturally against us) dominated new Germany.

Fun fact that the mirror of German past relationships with Poles is Bavarian attitude to Poles. North of Germany was always disapprovingly set to Poles.

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>>68188808
>Yes, as someone mentioned it before - Teutonic Order was more of an international corporation rather than an ethnic national state
>Moreover battles between Polish and Teutonic knights were very civilised, there were praising together before battle, duels and common feasts.
?

Whenever a German thinks of Poland there are only two words in his mind:
MUH
CLAY

>>68188722
it is English Taqiyya

>>68186353
>I have no idea where name Slavs comes from but it sounds similar to Slave lol xd

See? >>68188870

I told you! It is us or them,

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>>68186353

>>68188665
slavs = slaves

>>68189022
you = retard

>>68188808
>there were praising together before battle, duels and common feasts.

that's bullshit

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>>68189046
>responding to Marcelek

>>68188665
being between two empires

>In the 7th century, the Frankish merchant Samo, who supported the Slavs fighting their Avar rulers
>Avar rulers

slav = slave

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs

>>68186493
Connecting teutonic order directly with Germany is more or less XIX century propaganda. Not a bad propaganda though. We were strugling with German occupation back then so we invented a myth of defeating Germans in the battlefield. Later on Communist guvernmant strengthened that myth even more.Teutonic order was not Germany though. Historian Jan Gancewski estimate that ethnic germas were about 10 to 15 % of the Theutonic order knighs. Also we should all realize that back then there was no suck thing as a nation. There were only kingdoms and kings subjects. Even King Jagiello had german speaking mercenaries on our side... Nevertheless it was a great victory and it is a way better thing to remember and celebrate than all of those sad events that we are force to recall every year for some reason - like Warsaw uprising for exemple.

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>>68189122
Germanics were used as slaves in Rome.

as bad as mudslims

>>68189252
And Slavs were used as slaves by Germanics. Really makes you think.

>>68189294
Slavs ruled over Germanics.

So I don't really see your point.

>>68189304
No they didn't. Slavs were shit and always will be. Go charge tanks with sabres or something.

>>68189401
>No they didn't.
Except Scandinavia was united under Western Slavic dynasty, you illiterate monkey lmao.
Ever heard of Kalmar Union?
>Go charge tanks with sabres or something.
That's shit, even for you.

Your baits are getting weaker. I think you burned out.

>>68189502
With the same logic Sweden ruled over Poles because of Sigismund Wasa.

>>68189577
Except he was just another Jagiellon when he was in Poland. lol

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Polacks are subhuman.

>>68189401
t.Slav with inferiority complex

Slavic posters are the most hilarious on /int they are the most selfhating and the most patriotic at the same time.

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>be polack
>such german dick
>they shittalk you
>suck dick of your ''slavic brothers'' who were never your allies at any point in history
>they shittalk you
>f-fine fuck Europe USA san let me give you a handjob!
>they shittalk you


polacks = shit

slavs = slaves

>>68189633
>>68189737
nice flag

>>68189602
And Eric was just some German lord considering how he reigned.

Germans are west slavic.
Poles are East Germanic.

>>68189689
I may be cause we are not happy with how thing are but we feel we could do and deserve better.

>>68189828
seems like east germanics are subhuman then

>>68189857
>deserve better

lmao no you don't Poland is shit because Poles are idiots

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>>68188949
lad did you even bother looking up the etymology?

>>68189962
he is shitposting, don't bother using reason

>>68184703
>>68185016
>>68186296
>>68186734
>>68187058
>>68187174
>>68187205
>>68187490
>>68187606
>>68187615
>>68187674
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>>68188116
>>68188680
>>68188784
>>68188808
>>68189226
End your pathetic life you fuckin cocksucking cuck faggot

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>>68187644
>, the people in Isreal don't give a fuck anymore

>>68189962
Your pic is 19th century propaganda still widely repeated in western world. This manipulation that slave comes from Slav was possible because of unfortunate similarity of latin words Sclavinii (coming from slavic Słowianie) and sclavus, which has totally unrelated, different etymology.

>>68190342
>The origin of σkλάβος has been disputed historically. Modern etymologists accept that it refers to Slavs (Old Slavonic cлoвѣнинъ, cлoвѣнe),
Are modern etymologists wrong?

>>68190161
Thank you for your contribution. Now go and fuck yourself tiny dick shit head.

>>68190513
>Are modern etymologists wrong?
You mean modern western mainstream linguists?
Yes, they are.

Slavs -> Słowianie -> People of the word (słowo/ cлoвo - word)

>>68189962
Did you?The word "sclavus" derived from the word "clavus". In the midst of derivation, it first morphed to "inclavus", where the letter "I" was misread as "S".Medieval authors and readers have had a tendency of confusing "I" for "S", because these letters have once had a near-identical shape.

>>68190513
You mean modern mainstream linguists?Absolutely.

>>68186493
He is either a self-loathing Pole or a Polish German.

>>68186734
For political purpose.

>>68187058

>Teutonic Order was a precursor of Prussian state
Certainly not, Ducal Prussia wasn't officially a continuation of the Teutonic Order.

>Wrong again
Certainly not, because they've adopted the Prussian mindset and vehement anti-Polish dogma.

>>68186705
Highly unlikely, considering they've emerged victorious in most campaigns that you've led against them.

>>68187644
Because you've destroyed 64% of their material property and have caused the death of 5.8 million Polish civilians, including a good portion of their intelligentsia?

>>68187829
The things you've done to them are incomparable to your actions on the Eastern Front.

>>68189577
Certainly not, because he felt more Polish than Swedish, due to his mother's influence.

>>68190155
Reason has nothing to do with etymological neglect.

Good neighbours and great people

>all that polish (and swedish?) butthurt

Yeah, I don't mind you fuckers but get a hold of yourselves. I wouldn't even care if your batshit right wing nationalist government would outright prohibit people from speaking German in your cunt, but man, is it hard talking to you without getting you riled up because of some old-ass stuff in history. Calm a little down, Jaroslaw.

>>68192368
we are Good neighbours and great people*

Krauts are super-evil neighboors and terrible people

barely even human

>>68184058
poles stole my bike literally white niggers

>>68192453
Stop trying to fuck europe over, and for once in your entire existence try getting wealth by honest work and we'll think about peaceful conversation

why are poles so mad

>>68192461
No I was talking about Germans

With their savage irrational behavior Germans belong in Africa

They should be deported to madagascar or somewhere far away

>>68192519
>try getting wealth by honest work
Well, we build the cars you steal, so who's more honest there?
Also, I am not trying to fuck over Europe, Merkel is and I never voted for that cunt. And joking aside, Polish immigrants in Germany are mostly hard working, pleasant people.

>>68192351
>Certainly not, because he felt more Polish than Swedish, due to his mother's influence.
And?
Eric used Germans to administrate his realm, not Slavs, don't that make him as much of a Slavic ruler as Sigismund was a Swedish one?

>>68192588
Stop pretending to be me
>>68192581
nobody invited you

>>68192640
What? You replied to my post trying to correct me but I was talking about Germans not Poles

Let me reiterate:
Germans are good neighbours and great people

>>68192453
>Implying that's a Swede and not a Polish immigrant

>>68192620
>Polish immigrants in Germany are mostly hard working, pleasant people.
t. jakub

>>68192620
>krauts
>building anything
top kek
90% of your factories are outside of Germany. Other nations are building and you jews just reap the money

We should paint swastikas on all german-owned business so people know who they're dealing with

>>68192625
Good point.

>>68192680
No, that's what I posted before but then corrected myself because I accidenatle deletes some of my post

Now you pretend to be me

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Poles in Germany are like Niggers in America. Poles in Poland are some of the most amazing people i've met. They have great culture and food.

Also why is that swede trying so hard to bait ?

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>>68192754
Germans in Europe are like Niggers in America. Germans outside Europe are even worse.

>>68192696
t. Ronny
>>68192699
>you jews
>swastikas
>German-owned

See? That's what I mean.

>>68192794
so why are you trying so hard to be like us ? need to be invaded again and give up in 16 days ?

>>68184058
>What do they think about each other nowadays?
donandginsberg.webm

>>68192819
You are the real cancer that is killing Europe. Whole holocaust only happened because you don't like competition. You are the ones that should go into ovens.

>>68192845
You got that wrong. If you want experts on unconditional surrender you need to look in your own country. You guys have lots of prior experience.

>>68192711
Either way, neither Sigismund or Eric was the best kings so I dunno why anyone should feel proud about them.
Eric's diplomacy made him lose southern Jutland and later widespread rebellion and Sigismund did as I understood it put his country into a downwards spiral.

>>68192734
wut

>>68192958
His long reign coincided with the apex of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth's prestige, power and economic influence. On the other hand, it was during his reign that the symptoms of decline leading to the Commonwealth's eventual demise surfaced, so he's kinda controversial.