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i want bolivian,peruvian and ecuadorian opinion about spaniards especially because their countries are more native americans and less mestizo
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>>68164662
>>>/h/ispachan
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>>68165132
U WOT
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No

t. Peruvian
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I heard that Spain is still the official enemy of Bolivia,side by side with Chile and the US.
Sounds quite retarded desu.
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Just give me some of your gold and we will be ok
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>>68165439
We spent during the civil war
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>>68165479
>We spent

NO, FUCK OFF

IT WAS THE COMMIES THE ONES WHO GAVE IT FOR FREE TO THE SOVIETS

MOST OF OUR RESERVES!
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>>68165439
>El Salvador
>gold
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>>68165479
You seem nice. Don't go to Madrid tomorrow.
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>>68164662
no
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I'm Costa Rican and I want qt hairy brown spanish bf :3
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>>68164662
Everybody hates the stereotypical and negative image of Spain and Spaniards, even I do. Reality is quiet different, however.
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B-but I'm a mix of native and european... You should've asked ME. ME, you fucktard.
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Send qts and we will forgive you
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>>68165821
'Torrente' is the stereotype that all Latin Americans have of Spaniards.
>racist
>balding
>ultra-conservative
>ugly
>hairy
>funny accent
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>>68164662
Why do you call us "mestizo" if your people is "mestizo" too?
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>>68164662
The only people who gives two fucks about Spain are the ones that go there.
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>>68166345
mestizo means half indian half euro.
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>>68164662
Meh not really to be honest, I make fun of your accent but it's actually kinda neat.
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>>68166523

Half indian half euro

stop using columbus meme vocab plz
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>>68167217
that is what mestizo is you retarded mestizo, half amerindian half european.
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>>68167217
Burgers sometimes forget that English is not the only language in this world. Mestizo is a spanish word and we will use it forever.
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>>68166523
Meztiso literally means mixed. Nobody says "mezclado".
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>>68167575
Mestizo means half indian half white
that is its definition
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>>68167575
Raze Mesclada means race mixed, Mestizo is a specific race mix.
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>>68167799
Mestizo means "mixed".

It's true that during colonialism it was used to describe 50/50 euro/native and the name stuck with that description, however it is still in use for other "mixings".

A crossbreed of dogs is a "mestizo" dog.
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>>68168021
Mestizo means half indian half euro, using it for other things is a corruption.
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>>68165310
you have to go back
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>>68165382
>Sounds quite retarded desu.
That's Bolivia for you
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>>68168021
crossbreed of dogs should be pero mesclado.

mixed dog.
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>>68167834
>Raze Mesclada
CHI
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>>68168193
Raza.
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>>68168209
cANO
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>>68168275
I hate chicanos.
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>>68168052
Using it in other contexts in English is a corruption, other contexts in Spanish, not so much.
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>>68168052
>>68168140

Look.

Originally the word meant just "mixed-race", the races didn't matter, it could be black and white or yellow and brown.

Mestizo comes from late Latin "mixticius" (mixto, mezclado) meaning mixed.

Because of Spain presence in Latin America and the subsequent race-mixing the word mestizo became the most prevalent word to describe the product of European and Indian race mixing. Furthermore, Spanish colonists created a casta system with different gradients of mixing, and "mestizo" became one of it, this is why it became one of the meanings of the word.

But it still maintains its meaning as a description for mixed people "in general".

Don't forget that some words can have more than one meaning or implication, especially given the context.

In this movie, for example, they call the mixed offspring of Britons with Saxons as "mestizos".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9EhTxRKPMY
29:30-29:45
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>>68168634
Yes, corruption of the word.
Mestizo means half indian, raza mesclada means race mixed, ethnica mesclada means ethnic mixed, this has nothing to do with casta, it is simply describing half indian half euro.
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>>68168695
The real corruption of the word is giving it the exclusive meaning of "half native, half white".

The word "mestizo" existed in Spanish before we discovered America.

Stop being so dummy.
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>>68168784
Since it was used officially by the government to refer to half indian half euro, that became its definition.
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>>68168823
"Lobo" was used also in the casta system

Has "lobo" lost its meaning as "wolf"?

It happens the same with mestizo.
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>>68165629
Upset comrade?
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>>68168695
>Burger trying to teach Spain its own lenguage
>>68164662
I don't have any strong feelings towards irl spaniards. I'm interestted in visiting Madrid one day, because it seems like a cool city.

/int/ spaniards tend to be one of those countries that continuously try to make clear that they are white. Someohoy cringier than Mexico and South Brazil.
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>>68168878
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_gold

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oro_de_Mosc%C3%BA

NOS ROBARON EL HORO!
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Because they all wish that they are colonized by us instead of you, including Chile, especially Chile.
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>>68168897
No, no pretendemos ser blancos por que no lo somos
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>>68168964
Germany was irrelevant when spanish empire
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>>68168972
>no lo somos
>blacks in egland
>white english people aren't white
???
kek
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>>68164662
We need your King to come back
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>>68169006
You don't need shit, stay in your indio land.
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>>68168964
It's still not too late, senpai, we would really like those gas chambers in our prison system right now
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>>68168964
There are Germ communities in Valdivia
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>>68168925
Fue nuesteo oro primero, compañero.

ERAMOS
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>>68166073
I think of you as gallegos
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>>68169059
>current year
>not funding la sombra negra
Explain yourself.
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Me pregunto como es estar rodeado de gente con complejo de superioridad como este nota>>68168964
, salgo de allí echando ostias y de vuelta a España rápido
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>>68169154
Muh human rights
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>>68168972
>>68168897

>/int/ spaniards tend to be one of those countries that continuously try to make clear that they are white.

People gets confused over this constantly.

Spaniards don't care about being white, you can call us Moors and we shrug it off.

People don't know that in Spain we learn Moorish culture and history as part of our own, and Moorish heritage is held in high regard.

The problem we have is about being confused with american spics, wetbacks, chicanos, indios... and their loathable attitude, crime rate and overall degeneracy.

This is our constant effort and struggle, to differentiate us from (you).

A thing most people mistakenly confuse as us giving a crap about being >hwite
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>>68168964
As far as colonizers go it seems to be
England>[power gap]>Portugal>Spain>>Germany>Netherlands>>Belgium>[spoiler]USA[/spoiler]
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>>68169366
English are awful colonizers, no natives of their colonies are well off.
They are good at exporting their shittiest people (religious nutjobs, criminals) and those turn out better than expected.
But actually colonizing natives, they are pretty bad.
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>>68169319
Spic means spanish speaker so you are a spic like me
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>>68169427
>>68169366
Even the Boers suffered under the English.
I would put the Dutch over the Germans, and you forgot the French.
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>>68169319
> that in Spain we learn Moorish culture and history as part of our own, and Moorish heritage is held in high regard.
You are a moor, Spanish people aren't moors.
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>>68169106
REYES
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>>68169319
You do care about being white
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>>68169319
And there is no "we", Moors are Moors, they are your we, pure European Spaniards are Spanish, you are as Spanish as Obama is English.
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>>68169502
We don't care about race in Spain lad
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>>68168964

that is a historical impossibility because the German State is younger than most Latin American Republics. Almost all Latin America became independent in the 1810-1820 period.
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>>68169471
This is why I specifically said "american spics".

You guys need to be spoon-fed.
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>>68169552
>we
You don't.
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>>68169550
>>68169502

CHI
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>>68169637
MO
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>>68169594
Me suda la polla que me llamen spic
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>>68169661
BAYO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWze_Kv-ozw
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>>68169661
RO
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>>68169711
CA
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>>68169548
I just don't want my country being flooded with foreigners, I want Spain to remain Spanish. I don't want Spain to be "blacked" by a gazillion of african border-jumpers but I don't want a bigger percentage of blond hair or blue eyes either. I want to keep Spain the way I grew to know it and love it, with our particularities. Are we white whatever that means at this day and age? Idk, I just want Spain to remain Spanish.
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>>68169427
>>68169481
>English are awful colonizers, no natives of their colonies are well off.
But they leave behind much stronger institutions. Since I wouldn't exist anyway given such a strong change in the history of my country, I consider better nation at independence to be a better indicator of best practices.
>forgot the french
Yeah, don't really know where to place them. Reviewing their former colonies, they seem to be consistently shit (Haiti, Vietnam, western Africa).
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>>68169801
>Spain to remain Spanish
>I want to be a racial parasite to the current whites while devouring their race for my inferiority while denying it to the other moors down south.
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>>68169819
>Since I wouldn't exist anyway
You would be an Englishman living in a priviliged white country like Australia or Canada.
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>>68169848
Honestly we are not white but Who cares?
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>>68169819
>you are born in colombia
>you were born as indionegrospan mix
>if england colonized it
>all colombians would be white europeans
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>>68166073
I only think of spaniards as brutos. Stupid and harsh but not in a bad way.
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>>68169848
I'm in the extreme North of Spain actually (Navarra)

I think you have created yourself a false image of Spain through your personal experiences in the USA.
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>>68169923
>we are not white
There is no "we", you are not white.
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>>68169819
The English are responsible for:
Kenya
Sudan
Zimbabwe
Mauritius
Bangladesh
Sierra Leone
Zambia
Ghana
Afghanistan
Belize
Tanzania

They have some good colonies, and they have some awful ones.
The Spanish at least have them all around the same level.
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>>68169801
>I don't want Spain to be "blacked" by a gazillion of african border-jumpers

You are 1300 years too late
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Imagine how different the world would be if the British Isles weren't separated from the rest of the continent.
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>>68170079
You would be French clay
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>>68169707
Justo estába escuchando makina del 1996

Esto es de Gérard Requena
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7fDueckNad4
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>>68170052
This is why we must learn from the past and stay vigilant.
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>>68169962
>Afghanistan
Wrong.
You forgot the Falklands, che
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>>68170052
Fuuck Coquimbo has a cool flag. Nice fleg
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>>68170199
bunch of irrelevant sheep fuckers.
Afghanistan was shit on by the Brits for around two centuries, partly their fault it's as shitty as it is.
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>>68169879
>>68169932
I would be biologically and culturally different. Not to mention my ife experiences. So much different would mean "I" would be another person. Or not exist.
>>68169962
Good point. You are right but I tought Belize was good.
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>>68170287
Belize is the best of all of those
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>>68170146
El dj skryker que paso con el? Ese hombre desapareció de España, me gustaron sus temas
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>>68170287
It's actually the shittiest one in Central America
Lots of crime
Homosexuality was illegal until this year
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>>68169594
but american spics would be sudacas.
there are lots of overlapping/redundant terms.
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>>68170480
I think he meant Sudacas.
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>>68170287
you would be english.
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>>68170369
Ahora solo hay trap de mierda, desde que cerró tempo music,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ojlE3DUcmaA
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>>68170287
you are human born in colombia
if enflish colonized colombia human born in colombia would be english.
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Not Hispanic myself, but my girlfriend's parents are Colombian and Bolivian, but she mostly visits family in Bolivia and identifies with that side of her family.

Her family seems to worship Spaniards. They even seem shocked when they see white Mexicans and stuff, it's like it doesn't even occur to them that there's a lot of white people who are Hispanic. They're mestizos themselves, and my girlfriend gets very pissy when I tease her and call her an Indian.
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>>68169962
>Kenya
>Zambia
>Ghana
>Belize
>Mauritius
They're decent enough.


>Zimbabwe
>Bangladesh
Neither existed when the British were there.

>Sudan
Destined to fail as an independent, united country. Too many different ethnicities within the same, large region.

>Afghanistan
Not really a British problem, though they wished it was ever since the late 18th century.

>Sierra Leone
>Tanzania
Only ones I agree with, specially Tanzania since it was far better during German rule (ironically it was also the only decently run colony Germany ever had).
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>>68170896
Kinda sad
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>>68171001
>Zimbabwe
>Bangladesh
Neither existed when the British were there.

Neither did Bolivia when Spain was there, it's still a Spanish ex-Colony.
They were still ruled by the Brits-
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>>68170896
>calling your gf a filthy spic and sudaca
that would be very 4chan ish :D
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