What does /int/ know about Algeria?

>>68033010
Never heard about the place.

big guy

Qt girls

A shame this thread will be filled with racist FN followers very shortly when it is the fault of our nation for having colonized Africa and Indochina and exploited the labor of their people.

>>68033010
ayy lmao language

>>68033115
Fuck off Mohamed

i dated a qt grill from there in secondary school. her family were terrifying though

>>68033441

Yeah, maybe France is getting what was was coming right now.

>>68033010
T H I C C

>>68033441
The so-called "colonization" done by Europe throughout history was nothing more than rightful attempts to fight back against the constant savagery of the arabic pirates, taken too far due to the inability to stop them otherwise. Stop falling for incredibly obvious spooks.

Instead of fighting with each other, the French and Algerian proletariat need to join forces and overthrow the bourgeois class that colonized them and killed millions of us in two world wars.

>>68033822
C L A S S C O N S C I O U S N E S S

>>68033822
Hmm alain soral mashalah

>>68033010
i think we had a war with them and tunisia in the early 19th century? forget who won though

>>68033010
>that globe on upper left

so this is the true size of Africa

>>68033010
Sand niggers filled shithole, they deserve to be nuked, and their parody of a country turned into ashes.

>>68033010
bigger version of tunisia with sahara
btw our couscous still better

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>win independence from France
>start killing each other instead

Really fired up the ol' neurons

>>68040822
>win independence from France
They didn't win we btfo'd them into submission but then the Kikemericans and the Kikemunists forced us to give them the Independance.

Also, daily reminder that Russia and America are both kikes controled non-white shitholes.

One two three viva l'Algérie

>>68033441
>when it is the fault of our nation for having colonized Africa and Indochina
lol no

>>68042436
De Gaulle himself was tired of this.
Not making Algeria an oversea Collectivity with autonomy in local matters (kinda like Mayotte was before joining with us, or how Nouvelle-Calédonie is) was a mistake

>>68033010
The birthplace of 3/4 of Corsica

>>68033010
I hate kebabs in general but I feel a special kind of hatred for *lgerians.

>Be sandniggers
>Raid the coasts of Europe (including Southern France) kidnapping people as slaves
>The French decide they've had enough, send over a fleet and wreck their shit
>Being both good Catholics and good liberals, believing in their duty to act moral and the universal application of human rights, they do not commit genocide on these savages
>In fact they prosper and become more numerous than ever under French rule
>After WW2 France decolonizes (peacefully, with the exception of Vietnam because commies)
>Algeria, not being a colony, remains French
>I repeat: the Algerians had the choice to remain French nationals
>Instead they fight a bloody war to not be French
>France cuts her losses, De Gaulle gives his "no sandniggers in France" speech, France pulls out
>ALMOST INSTANTLY literally millions of Algerians move to France to enjoy its higher living standards and generous welfare state
>While at the same time complaining about "muh evil colonization"

Subhumans. The French should've just driven them into the desert or forcibly deported them all to Madagascar or something.

>>68042436
Just like how a few years before that, Eisenhower slapped your hand and said "Quit it." during the Suez Crisis.

>>68042436
>>68042743
>>68042899
>>68043069
kys desu

>>68033441
You do realize that the one single reason we went to Algeria was because of the north-african pirates conducting razzia on our ships and on our coasts stealing women to sell them to the Ottomans as slaves and killing Mediterranean trade, right ?

Also all the shit build in Algeria was not built by arabs, since their population only massively increased in the late 19th and early 20th century.

Did you also know Algerian national anthem has butthurt about France in it?

Wow Pierre is triggered.

I know this algerian bitch was trying to get my seed

she didnt get none of it

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>>68043138
The amerikike know !

>>68043069
>Algeria's history, source is my ass
Also
>>Algeria, not being a colony, remains French
>Takes land away from Algerians and gives it to french citizens who move to Algeria
>French people in Algeria were literally called colons
You REALLY need to kys

Biggest mistake we made was in cancelling missionary activity in Algeria. They could have been converted to Catholicism in a few decades, and then the fedoracore Troisième République takes over and withdraws missionaries.

>>68043069
The problem is when Maghrebi (moroccans and others) move to your and my country and complains ''muh evil colonization'' even if the Netherlands or Italy never held a single sqm of moroccan/algerian/tunisian soil.

Tunisia >> Morocco >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Algeria

Litteraly k*rd-tier
Prove me wrong.

>>68043069
FUCKING THIS

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS


>>68043158
If you annoy us i will tell the Americans about Lyautey

>>68043325
Catholicism is pretty shitty. Especially if used as a tool by a government.

Not sure if to shill for our berber frennemies or the franks

thieves and rapists from France.

I BOUGT WEED FROM THE NETHERLANDS AND NOW YOU MUST BUY IT! I"M GOING TO FOLLOW YOU ON THE HIGHWAY AND PUT A GUN ON YOUR HEAD UNTIL YOU BUY MY WEED LMAO.

France and Algerians are the same thing.
Pure shit.
I never seen a white Frenchman. They are always sandniggers. And i fucking HATE sandniggers.

>inb4 EU hate speech law

>>68043325
No, biggest mistake was not killing all those inbred savages in 1945 and not gassing all the commies in 1944.

>>68043468
Catholicism wasn't used as a tool by the government since 1905.

>>68043377
Italy used to have colonies in Africa, but the Netherlands never did.

>>68043173
No it wasn't, that a was poor excuse. In XIXth century France and the Regency of Algiers were allies. The Regency even lent wheat to France which France refused to pay for, so it was Algiers that had a casus belli and not the other way around.

The decision to colonize Algeria ultimately was the answer of a French king to a domestic concern: his own falling legitimacy. Attacking Algeria and seeking glory abroad was his way to gain that legitimacy back.

And it is this quest for glory that led France to colonize all kinds of countries in Africa and Asia who unlike the regency didn't have any history of piracy against France.

>>68042436
>>68043138
If France had given Indochina their independence peacefully like Britain did with India instead of stubbornly making a fight out of it, a whole lot of trouble would have been avoided for both their country and mine.

>>68043325
>Converting muslims

Good luck

>>68043478
Your berber frenemies o-of course

>>68043544
In colonies it was.

>>68033010
Great place. They have the best food and the hottest women.

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>>68043561
>muh we wuz good boyz we didn't enslave christians it wuz the evilz roumis who persecuted us

>>68043671
Spain pulled it off during the Reconquista.

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>It's another episode of French chimping out after getting schooled

oy this 1962 all over again

>>68043315
>Takes land away from Algerians and gives it to french citizens who move to Algeria
You know the Algerians were given the option to become French citizens, right? They were treated better than they treated their dhimmis unfortunately.

>>68043652
>And mine
Bitch please. Had France just done nothing the entire country would be under Vietcong control (as it was after America left). France, despite losing the war, managed to secure a non-communist South Vietnam.

What you're basically saying is "there's no war if you just give up".

>>68043561
>alg
Why are you even in France if you love Algeria so much?

>>68043798
Barbary piratery was merely a response to the reconquista

And mena slaves were treated 10000 times better than westerner slaves

>>68043834
The vast majority of andalusians didn't convert and simply came here and to algeria

>>68043860
>Bitch please. Had France just done nothing the entire country would be under Vietcong control (as it was after America left)

Assuming it was inevitable, at least nobody would have died except some gooks.

>>68043325
You didn't cancel your missionary activities, they miserably failed

ISLAM STRONK

>>68043554
I've yet to see or hear one of our former colonials (except Quadafhi followers or ethiopians, of course) who criticize us for ''muh colonialeezm''. We arrived later in the Colonial race, we took some lands and we tried to improve the quality of lifes of the natives. When the british troopers took Mogadiscio in WWII, the city with our architecture mixed with somalo-arabic one was called ''the Pearl of the Horn''; now it's a shithole. The same goes for Lybia (the only land with massive italian colonizations); there they still use many of our infrastructures as waterworks, highways, etc.

France and Britain did the same but their former colonials are always creaming ''muh eevil whitey'' even if thei live in the countries they deeply hate.

>>68043561
Algeria wasn't a colony and I will quote Lamartine here:

>Abandonnerions-nous ces mers à leurs pirates ? Les côtes de France, d’Italie et d’Espagne à leurs insultes ? Repousserions-nous les bénédictions de ces rivages que nous avons affranchis de leur terreur ? Laisserons-nous repeupler d’esclaves français et européens ces nids d’esclavage que nous avons détruits pour jamais ?

And French colonization was beneficial to all the places we went, since we never commited massacres or genocides, unlike the anglo or the belgians.

>>68043783
from 1905 in France Catholicism and the Government were completely separated and the left government we had from that point carried on a war against Catholics and the clergy until 1914.

>>68043860
>You know the Algerians were given the option to become French citizens, right?

Rotting_skull_with_a_dick_in_it.jpg

>>68043554
>but the Netherlands never did

South Africa.

>>68044016
>>68044016
>to improve the quality of lifes of the natives.

LOL
JUST LOL

>>68043834
That was back in the Middle Ages when you could just kill and torture people into converting. You couldn't do that shit anymore in the 19th century.

>>68043923
>Barbary piratery
Yes, a "response" that hit countries not involved in the Reconquista (France, Italy, there are even tales of English women being kidnapped into sex slavery) and laster for 300 years after the Reconquista had already fucking ended.

>And mena slaves were treated 10000 times better than westerner slaves
Do you know why America is full of black people yet the Middle East is not? Because black male slaves were all castrated (and due to shitty medical care only 1/6 survived the procedure) and the children of black female slaves were instantly killed. How very humane! And let's not forget that it took white people to abolish slavery in kebab lands.

Seriously, fuck you. Fuck you fuck you fuck you. MENA are the worst of peoples, not the kuffar like your precious book written by a fucking pedophile tells you. You are horrible and the only reason your otherwise wealthy lands are shit is because you're horrible people ruled by a horrible ideology.

The French should've burned every mosque they came across.

lol @ cathoshits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbQ7R7rZjwE

AHAHAH LOSERS

>>68043860
>You know the Algerians were given the option to become French citizens, right? They were treated better than they treated their dhimmis unfortunately.

lol they didn't. France only gave citizenship to Jews. Algerians had to ask for it and they were jailed when they did so.

>>68044027
Yes it was a colony
No it wasn't beneficial. You brought maghrebi countries back to the stone age.

West African countries who are still under French economic sovereignty and heav handed political influence are still utter shitholes.

>>68044027
i thought your government was separate from catholicism since the revolution?

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>>68044180
>You brought maghrebi countries back to the stone age.

holy fuck

Algeria has the highest ratio of fair skinned Nordics in North Africa. Most shitskins are confined to wild camel fuckers in the desert.

>>68044163
>France, Italy, there are even tales of English women being kidnapped into sex slavery)

Citation needed

>yet the Middle East is not?

Average maghrebi is 1/5 black
Google jing

>>68044244
Racialists confirmed to not have a fucking clue what words means

>Mediterranean skin tone
>Nordic

>>68044016
>I've yet to see or hear one of our former colonials (except Quadafhi followers or ethiopians, of course) who criticize us for ''muh colonialeezm''. We arrived later in the Colonial race, we took some lands and we tried to improve the quality of lifes of the natives. When the british troopers took Mogadiscio in WWII, the city with our architecture mixed with somalo-arabic one was called ''the Pearl of the Horn''; now it's a shithole. The same goes for Lybia (the only land with massive italian colonizations); there they still use many of our infrastructures as waterworks, highways, etc.

We do criticize though. Italy is just purely irrelevant.

> we took some lands and we tried to improve the quality of lifes of the natives.

Hell no

>>68044195
the constitutional separation of state and church only happened in 1905

>>68044244
blatantly wrong, Pieds Noirs are dark as fuck by French standars and they look like Finns compared to the average Algerian

>>68044202
while the French were sipping their tea in the big towns they built for themselves, Maghrebi were eating grass in the rural side. Daily reminder that the literacy rate of Algerians was 15% by 1962, it was barely 5% in Morocco.

Daily reminder we only enjoy your infrastructues because we kicked you out. Infrastructues that you tried to burn in 1962 because you are petty like that

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>>68044180
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Algeria
>. Within a generation, a class of well-educated, gallicized Muslims — the évolués (literally, the evolved ones)—had been created. Almost all of the handful of Muslims who accepted French citizenship were évolués; ironically, this privileged group of Muslims, strongly influenced by French culture and political attitudes, developed a new Algerian self-consciousness.
Fuck off back to your precious desert mahmout.

>>68044195
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordat_of_1801
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Constitution_of_the_Clergy

>>68044014
The benefit of going Muslim to Catholic was non-existant compared to going Pagan to Catholic elsewhere in African (and even in that case it didn't do shit in regards to upping social status).

>>68043923
>Barbary piratery was merely a response to the reconquista


>Barbary pirate was a reponse to native taking back their land

Religion of peace everyone

>And mena slaves were treated 10000 times better than westerner slaves

Lmao

The women were sex slaves and the men were castrated, we weren't as near as evil as you are.

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>>68044342
Oran and Algiers at their peak European population were only 30% European and 70% arabs

>>68044027
>we never commited massacres or genocides, unlike the anglo or the belgians.

Lol really you gonna say that?
Madagascar rebellion and the Kongo-Wara_ ebellion for one example

>>68044369
Those evolues were like 1% of the population, nothing to fret about, and they were still second class citizens, which is why they did everything to kick the French out.

>>68044342
>Daily reminder we only enjoy your infrastructues because we kicked you out
And what have you done since to improve it? Fucking nothing, that's what. Even the fucking Cambodians, who went so full retard they killed every intellectual in their country, managed to improve upon the infrastructure that was left behind.

You live in squalor, too dumb to improve your lot, and then move to France to enjoy the benefits of a competent government. And then, fed and dressed by the French taxpayer, you whine about how evil France is.

You ungrateful desert rats mistake kindness for weakness.

>>68044163
Blacks exist in the Middle Eats in pretty decent numbers.

Only men who got castrated were the ones dealing with people not labourers or soldiers.

>>68044195
Nope

We simply stoped killing heretics after 1789, but the State religion was Catholicism until 1905, and it was re-established as the state religion in Vichy France.

>>68044384
>Native

Cleansing hispania of b*rbarians

> The women were sex slaves and the men were castrated
Yet better treated than african slaves in europe and the americas
Not to say these castrated males were given high ranking titles, altering political life and even replacing rulers like they did here and otto empire

they are our brothers, together with spain and morocco, I think we should unite(the four of us); build a bridge in gibraltar, and control all the west mediterranean, in an agressive manner

>>68044388
lolwut

>Oran est la première ville d’Algérie où la population européenne dépasse en nombre la population musulmane. En 1961, les statistiques donnent, en gros, 400 000 habitants, dont 220 000 Européens et 180 000 musulmans.

180k in a the second biggest city of the country out of 9 millions algerians in 1962 is fucking nothing.
Algerians in Algiers lived in the old Arab city not the European one.

This is the worse about you, you don't know shit about colonisation and you open it with all your arrogance

>>68044436
keyword here being rebellion

you do realize that from 1871 to 1945, any kind of protest in France was repressed by shooting the protesters, right ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune is the more famous

>>68044318
Its irrelevant nowadays (even if we're still in the top 10 economically) because since 1945 we are an american colony, having lost a global war; at the beginning of XX century we were among the ''great powers''.


And yes we tried. We abolished your stupid tribal system, the same system that caused centuries of wars betwen your tribes...you were all equals; we opened schools, shops, we created plantations... contrarily to your same people who were under british rule, almost slaves... I'm not talking about the fascist regime, which was obviously a ''catastrofe'' both for us and for the colonianls, i'm talking about the early stages of colonialism.

>>68044450
Algeria's infrastructure and construction is pretty decent. Meanwhile Cambodia is still a shitty commie state with low as fuck growths and little jobs to work with and irrelevant in it's region

>>68044450
t. doesn't know jack about Algeria

>>68044526
>these castrated males were given high ranking titles
So
You're saying that if someone offer you a high ranking job you would accept to be castrated ?

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Cruel maghrebi slavery

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Humane yuro slavery

>>68044730
No, but

Catholicucks performed castration on prepubescent choir singers until the renaissance

>>68044136
> the representer of maghrebi people in Italy said that Morocco is a land ''blessed by Allah''
> those blessed people are still here, growing fastly as a group (almost 700.000 people), and not in their blessed land.

Logica ineccepibile.

>>68033010
I know that nuking the whole place would have been the best choice for Charles "le cocu" De Gaulle.

>>68044872
dude libya was a barren shithole when you left it

>>68044620
I should have said French, rather than European, since during the 30's and 40's there was a massive influx of Spanish people.

>Après les Massacres de Sétif et Guelma, le 8 mai 1945, les familles oranaises adoptent des orphelins venus de l’est du pays. À la sortie de la Seconde Guerre mondiale, et à la veille de la guerre d'Algérie, Oran est démographiquement la ville la plus européenne de l'Algérie ; c'est aussi celle où la population d'origine espagnole a la plus forte prépondérance numérique. En 1948, la ville compte 352 721 habitants. La population oranaise originaire d'Espagne est estimée à 65 % du total des Européens, eux-mêmes plus nombreux que les musulmans68.

>>68033010
ZIDANE

>>68044628
The Congolese there were being worked to death. the rebellion was the reason you were forced to sign ILO No.29.

The number of native laborers killed were massive during the construction and exposed many issues with the Frenhc colonial system.

>>68044926
Those spanish were naturalised French, because you're so shit at colonizing you needed other europeans to come in.

>>68044872
Because italy is a better place to live in?

what's your point here

>>68044664
Lol in Eritrea and Libya you guys were pretty crappy. Somali too but in that case you have meme stuff yo guys point to as your example of "progress" while sweeping the many ugly shit under the rug

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>>68044664
>the same system that caused centuries of wars betwen your tribes...

Do you guys have any idea what's happening in Libya right now?

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>>68044664

>>68044963
literally irrelevant since people were worked to death in mainland France as well, you're projecting the state of the world at the time onto a very specific situation trying to create issues that, mostly, weren't there.
Sure things weren't perfect but they were not nearly as bad as what you are pretending.

>>68044845
>Catholicucks
Catholic crusaders conquered the entire Africa, North Africa included.

>prepubescent choir singers until the renaissance


They were only a few, while castration in Islamic slavery is the normal standard even today.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/167540/saudi-offers-castrated-african-slave-sale-facebook-daniel-greenfield .

>>68044526
Good point. Islamic slavery was not based on race, only religion. The Koran states that you may not keep a fellow Muslim as a slave. This is unlike European slavery which was based entirely on race. Most black slaves in the United States were devoted Christians, but despite that they were half a full human being due to being born the wrong skin color/

>>68045188
please, French workers gained massive social and labour rights in between the two world wars which the congolese never enjoyed. Congolese were as good as slaves.

>>68045301
>Saudi arabia
Lol

>>68044916
The coastal cities were a good place... before the war and the british bombing, at least.
The centre was never pacificated btw. Even if most of the trubal chiefs declared Mussolini the ''sword of Islam'' and acclamated him, many other from the desert remained hostile.
BTW Italo Balbo as Console Generale did a great job to connecting the cities with the interlybian highways and with the creation fo idric and plantation plain.
Oil was discovered later.
...and then Quadafhi and then the hypershithole home of ISIS and human trafficker

>>68033010
France's main source of BBC

>>68045188
Due a fuck ton of people died in the Kongo. and those was Africa back then when it's population was small as fuck so a high % were killed due to the actions of the French state. Central Adria Republic where most of the conflict took place has 4 million right now which is VERY small for a country it's size.

You were pretty much working them to death

>>68045486
Big Berber Cock*

>>68045325
>The Koran states that you may not keep a fellow Muslim as a slave

Nor anybody, it's just we deviated 'a bit'

There was this big judge guy that-i-forgot-his-name wipped a fellow muslim for insulting and beating a copt

>>68033010
france's india

>>68045396

Same goes for Mauritania :

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-david/20-percent-of-a-country-e_b_5490693.html

>>68045092
Nof because of us or our colonial govenment. Blame the former president of the nation where are you living now for the current lybic situation.

Italian-Lybian relations were good under both Berlusconi and Quadafhi (and they're both gone... how hironic...)

>>68045560
Apart from gulf countries and memetania

>>68045327
Also ILO No.29. Was signed AFTER the Rebellion in 1946 after WW2.

No.20 states

>Obligation for members to "completely suppress such forced or compulsory labour", with exceptions for military, civil service, court orders, for emergencies and minor communal orders.

>>68045512
the forced labor there was 130k at most and only like 25k at most died due to labor conditions, which seems pretty reasonable to me.

>>68045651
>1/7

"""""Reasonable"""""

>>68045580
YOu can't claim you ended tribalism since it still remained. Italy did what every ruler in Libya did, coopt tribe and play in betweent their rivalries.

There is an Italian historian of Libyan colonisation, Angelo Del Boca, and he doesn't say nice things about it desu

Their French diaspora is the most hated of all. I don't know much about the country though, except that it was considered a part of France as opposed to a regular colony(or am I misstaken?)

>>68033441
You have to go back, Bilel

>>68045754
Correct, it was even part of the EU for a while

>>68045560
and Mauritania has a big movement to stop that.

and it's not slavery per say but the aftermath of having a society post slavery that's a the problem.

>>68045637
and the thing with forced labour s that you an throw them at any construction project or force them to labour as borderline slaves for concession companies and if they die no big woop. More unskilled people where he came from and there's basically no such things as workers rights since it's either non-existent or barely enforced.

In many places since men were pulled from their normal line of work and family that meant family/village farms lost a huge part of their labour and farm yields since the only workers left were old men and children.

>>68045754
Formally it wasn't colony, in practice, it was.

just to compare
French Algeria had 900k settlers
Morocco, a protectorate and not a french department, had 500k settlers.

>>68045754
Of course it is the most hated, they can't assimilate for shit. They are litteral savages. Worse than actual niggers, at that.

You can see successful morrocans or tunisians, never a succesful algerian.

>>68045794
Fucking kek and they threw it all in the bin. Imagine if they had stayed, it would probably be on par with or close to the west by now.

A great place to try out A bombs

>>68045604
>Apart from gulf countries and memetania
There is also Sudan, the Sinai peninsula, and Iraq(thanks to ISIS).

Anyway


We are the one who ended-attempled to end YOUR slavery, but which pretty much tell us everything we need to know about Islamic slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world#20th-century_suppression_and_prohibition.

>>68045868
French Algeria was more advanced than Portugal, Spain or Italy

>>68033010
home to the hardest dialect in the world
apparently they alongside morrocans are despised in europe

terrible allies as the 3 barbary wars proved

and so far the only maghreb country with an actual dictator (morroco's king doesnt count since he has a constitution etc)

>>68045888
TOP KEK
The biggest JUST move in recent history desu

>>68045844
that's becasue you wouldn't let them succede or assimilate

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_Zerhouni

this dude got his degree from France

France has a shitton of Algerian doctors trained by France, yet none of them accessed a function as high as him.

really makes you activates your neural cells

>>68045888
In select parts.

>>68045967
>that's becasue you wouldn't let them succede or assimilate
kek

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>>68045967
you're insane

Why is it impossible for yuros to understand colonialism was bad? Were they all taught we wuz da gud boyz in school?

>>68045967
Then why don't you fucking morons move to America? Oh right, because it has a less generous welfare state. And that's all you care about: French tax money.

There's a thing called "voting with your feet", it's what your sibling-parents did when they left Algeria.

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>>68045888
>>68045927
you do realize there was a genocide done there right?

>>68045967
>yet none of them accessed a function as high as him.

France is for French it is normal that only French have the right to rule the country, you shouldn't even be allowed to be in the Army and the Police imo

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>>68046069
yes, the genocide of Europeans

>>68046069
Sauce me up senpai. I don't know much about their history as I mentioned so I'm taking this at face value.

>>68046025
/pol/ did


Reminder that colonialism
>let hassan II rule tyranically over morocco
>made algeria go in a state of insurgency for 20 years
>Left libya a barren autocratic wasteland

i hope North Africans take over France, except the southern parts

>>68046011
nice ad hominem

>>68046115
>>let hassan 2 rule tyrannically over Morocco
Holy shit sounds almost as bad as what the British did to Iraq

>>68046069
Nice cliché

But it is taken from the Rif war which involved Spain and Morroco.

French tortured but didn't mutilated, we aren't barbarians, unlike you achmed.

>>68046115
>libya
>a barren autocratic wasteland

Libya was much better off with Gaddafi than it is now. Gaddafi was a ruthless dictator, but he greatly improved the standard of living of libyans.

>>68045651

>Then why don't you fucking morons move to America?

Because immigration to America is super hard no matter how educated and skilled you are bro.

>>68046184
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Morocco)

Not as bad as iraq but still bad

>>68046110
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sétif_and_Guelma_massacre


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4u3C1VC7E

>>68046115
t-this


even the ottomans were better to libya 2bh

>>68046115
>let hassan II rule tyranically over morocco
As opposed to...? In fact it was French colonial kindness to merely puppet the local ruler rather than destroying and taking over the established system.

>made algeria go in a state of insurgency for 20 years
They could've opted to remain French, you know. Like Guiana, which is by all means a good place to live unlike *lgeria.

>Left libya a barren autocratic wasteland
Was it ever not an autocratic wasteland, other than maybe prior to the conquests of Islam? Don't forget that the Sahara expanded as far North as it did because the Muslims were too stupid to keep the anti-desertification measures the Romans left behind intact.

>>68046273
Everyone's standard of living improved from 1980-2000 from sheer technological progress.

Libya under Gaddafi was shit. Not enough to justify deposing him - but still shit.

>>68046273
>Gaddafi was a ruthless dictator, but he greatly improved the standard of living of libyans.

That he did but he did a lot of fucked up things.

>>68046299
>open video
>one million algerian killed by french army
>close video still laughing

You realized that the army only intervened when Algerians started raping and killing women and children Haiti style, right ?

>>68046273
oh screw yourself will ya?

>>68046202
>They could've opted to remain French, you know. Like Guiana, which is by all means a good place to live unlike *lgeria.

Guyana is an aids ridden shithole

>>68046373
I mean you were in their country kinda ahem treating them as second class citizens in their own soil

>>68046344
ah he had it coming 2bh

the only problem is that we were too excited to govern ourselves and shouldve let the UN deploy peacekeepers

>>68046334
>In fact it was French colonial kindness to merely puppet the local ruler

Actually it's worse in other ways.

>>68046334
>Like Guiana, which is by all means a good place to live unlike *lgeria.

Guiana is a shit though. It's only real worth to France is training for the French Foreign Legion and rocket launches. Asides from that it's poor as fuck.

>>68046344
at least gaddafi kept the terrorists under control.

>>68046411
Still better than Algeria

Says a lot about it.

>>68046440
Since when are arabs native to north-africa ?

>>68046477
a quick glance at HDI proves otherwise

>A final key dimension of the Franco-Algerian migratory dynamic is directly linked to colonial legacies. In 1962, up to 100,000 Algerians (harkis) who had served - often against their will - in the French security forces, arrived in France fleeing massacre in Algeria by nationalist sympathisers. (16) Although having French nationality, they and their descendants have often grown up in isolated camps in rural areas, and have experienced the same forms of discrimination as Algerian economic migrants. Additionally, their presence in France has constituted a source of tension between them and those migrants having actively supported Algerian independence: in some small French towns, these hostilities pervade social relations. More generally, as sociologist Saïd Bouamama has argued, the descendants of Algerian migrants have often become the 'involuntary inheritors of the Algerian War', unwittingly caught up in the lasting conflicts of their parents' and now grandparents' generations. (17)
>Force them to fight for you
>blame them for running to safety from your actions
>hate their progeny and force them to be ghetto niggers
All this hypocrisy just makes me want to vomit
https://www.history.ac.uk/ihr/Focus/Migration/articles/house.html

>>68046334
>As opposed to...?
if they were truly kind they would have intervened when hundreds were getting killed each day


French algeria wasn't all roses and wine like they claim, it was a major shithole due to corruption, pseudoslavery and rape conducted by french troops

> Was it ever not an autocratic wasteland, other than maybe prior to the conquests of Islam

Nope actually, it quite glorious

> because the Muslims were too stupid to keep the anti-desertification measures the Romans left behind intact.

Southern moroccan berbers had their own irrigation systems even before rome happened, making arid regions like Souss agriheavens

>>68046476
yeah cuz he was the terrorist himself
you realize we were a terrorist state right?

supporting islamists and pan arabists left and right and having sharia in our own country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Libya_under_Muammar_Gaddafi
the islamists had no reason to hate him they loved him
he had sharia and established a mufti office too

>>68046473
>Actually it's worse in other ways.
So the complaint is "the French didn't intervene enough"? So now you sandniggers are asking for more colonialism while at the same time complaining that it was evil?

>Guiana is a shit though
Oh? Let's compare HDI
> French Guiana - 0.816
> Algeria - 0.736
Yeah, what a shithole! It truly proves that being under French rule is hell! But of course HDI is not the end-all-be-all. Shall we move the subject of the conversation to civic liberties? How much of a say the average inhabitant of those regions has in his local politics?

>>68046554
the people living there were the natives of the land
the events of the arab invasion were more than a thousand years ago

if you want to trace all that shit back noone is native to europe and all of you belong in africa

>>68046440
>I mean you were in their country kinda ahem treating them as second class citizens in their own soil

This is what you are doing to Copts in their own land and they aren't native, Berbers are.

Anyway, it was merely a little pay back for hundred of years of islamic oppression.

>>68046559
Algeria is litterally poorer than the french Rhône-Alpes région despite having 7 times as much population.

It is a pue unadultered shithole compared to any part of France, metropolitan or overseas.

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>>68046559
You're mistaken

>>68046585
>Wh-why did those filthy Algerians want independence?!

>>68046673
shifting the goalpost I see

>or overseas.

kek

>>68046735
>Macememeia and yukraina better places to live in socialigeria

Hdi is a paki meme

>>68046745
>shifting the goalpost I see
Also see
>>68046735
>>68046612
You are right, Algeria is worse than the worst France has to offer, which is a jungle shithole in south America.

>>68046662
Copts actually did better in Libya then Egypt though.

>>68046585
>blame them for running to safety from your actions
You don't flee to safety to those who oppress you, fucking idiot. If that was really the case they would've fled to one of the literally 200+ other countries on the planet. They could've gone to fucking Morocco and they'd fit in just fine.

>Social movements led by those from Algerian communities challenged the fact that, while most descendants of Algerian migrants had French nationality (and hence citizenship), they were not being treated equally within French society. Antiracist movements in 1983 and 1984 produced a new collective political actor, the beurs, a term derived from the French word arabe and altered using the urban slang of the French working class. For those of Algerian (and Moroccan and Tunisian) descent, self-identifying as beur was a way of expressing being French and having North African heritage. Since then, in the context of socio-economic crisis, high unemployment, and widespread discrimination, many people of Algerian heritage have continued to feel excluded. Consequently, the counter-cultural aspects of trans-national Islamic identity have achieved wider appeal, although the media often focus on the tiny fringe of radical Islam. Nonetheless, a growing middle class has also emerged - the so-called beurgeoisie - and cultural production (notably film and fiction, but also music), associations and the media have flourished. (13)
There is nothing worse than a French

>>68046828
yeah cuz the locals of cyrene have a severe case of muh heritage

>>68046585
MUH WE WUZ FORCED *
Sure m8

Just like the Nazis "forced" us to hand over the jews kek

>>68046872
Let's both be realistic. They were gonna get killed anywhere but in France for what they were forced to. Also no what aboutism, just facts

>>68046874
>be algerian
>be a high school dropout
>be a criminal
>wonder why you aren't accepted within the french society

>>68046933
>They were gonna get killed anywhere but in France for what they were forced to.
Oh yeah? Even in America, muh land of oppertunity muh land of migration? No, they weren't. But America didn't have a generous welfare state.

>>68046874
I bet Bataclan made you really happy then, you piece of shit.

Guina's hdi is only that high because of space stuff and army personel

>>68046991
It's high because i's not a shithole like Alg*ria

>>68046735
I stand corrected. Still the difference is not too big and not worthy to lose independence for, I wouldn't trade independence with 10 ranks or so gains.


>>68046612
>How much of a say the average inhabitant of those regions has in his local politics?

How much of a say do French guineans have in French politics?

>>68046913
Pétain didn't hand any jew to hitler

>>68046986
>unrealistic what aboutism
Shame on you

>>68046986
>Genocide against algerians is ok begause they mooslim XDDD

>HOW DARE YOU KILL YUROS EUAKCHDODH HDIZJCVGXK

>>68047015
Nah l'algerie est 100x mieux que guiane, hdi est un mémè

>>68046959
>Accompanying the ever more restrictive French labour immigration measures, a policy of family re-grouping allowed the spouses and children of Algerian workers to come to live in France, subject to often exacting housing criteria. This process significantly transformed the profile of Algerian migration, marking the third 'stage' of migration described by Sayad, as many Algerian migrants decided to stay in France. However, Algerians continued to have severe difficulties regarding housing provision. The last shanty-towns were only demolished in 1977: during the 1960s, 1970s and into early 1980s, many Algerians spent years in segregated temporary accommodation in prefabricated buildings (cités de transit) since the authorities judged Algerians insufficiently 'developed' to accede immediately to council housing. Public housing agencies continued to prioritise housing for nationals, European immigrants, and the hundreds of thousands of European settlers who had left Algeria in 1962-3. Furthermore, former colonial police and welfare officers from Algeria or Morocco were employed to 'oversee' the Algerian community, bringing with them attitudes and practices that prolonged policies initiated in the 1930s and that had been intensified during the Algerian War. (12) Only by studying these policies can we understand the origins of the social and ethnic segregation in France's poor outer suburbs (banlieues) today.

>>68046991
Just like Germany's HDI is only that high because of the automobile industry and not being Islamic.

You know De Gaulle built the base at Korou to replace the one that was in Algeria, right? So the only reason that the armpit of France most Frenchmen don't even know about has a higher HDI than Algeria... is present in Algeria! The Algerians are just too retarded to exploit it.

>>68047046
>How much of a say do French guineans have in French politics?
Let's just say that the ministry of Justice was from guyane from 2012 to 2015.

So they have just as much as a say as any french citizen, they even have notable politicians.

>>68047116
that's dumb, the "ségrégation" only happens because arabs act like savage so white people run away

>>68046986
Immgration to America is very hard bro like I said before.

Algerian war ended 1962, Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 in 1965. Not sure Algerians would really have a chance back then. Hell a large mount of Harki movement was within those 3 years and they knew French at various levels compared to English.

>>68047046
You still live in France so I don't even see what the difference would be if you DIDN'T have independence, except for a better quality of life in Algeria(theoretically).

>>68047098
>Nah l'algerie est 100x mieux que guiane, hdi est un mémè
Si l'algérie est aussi bien que ça, pourquoi tous les alg*riens restent en France ?

>>68047046
>How much of a say do French guineans have in French politics?
Let's start with France's minister of justice being Guianan.

>>68047098
I'm making a post-facto judgement. I'm saying that because of how inhumanly Arabs behave, whether it's in their own lands or abroad, it would've been better to just get rid of them. Had Arabs behaved like fucking humans, I would advocate treating them like humans. The French don't behave like fucking Sharia enforcing savages so I mourn the loss of French lives as much as I would morn the loss of Dutch lives.

>>68047057
What is so "aboutist" about not going to a country where you know you will be persecuted, and fleeing from countries where you are persecuted? They made their way over to France in the first place, right? It's not that big of a jump from France to Germany. In fact, there are places in France where you can literally jump over the border.

>>68047149
One ministry from for three years is nothing. Most if not all ministries since the 1950's are metorpolitan French.

and Guiana is still an aids ridden shithole.

>>68047175
>excuses
Makes me want to vomit

>>68047248
>and Guiana is still an aids ridden shithole.
You know what's worst than that ? An algerian-ridden shithole.

>>68047117
Not the same thing since it's mostly uncharted territory

You really arent implying that some tribal cannibal is more developped and civilized than an algerian

>>68047261
it's not an excuse, it's a fact

>>68047248
>Most if not all ministries since the 1950's are metorpolitan French.
Metropolitan France has 65 million people living in it. Guiana 200,000 at best. No shit Sherlock.

If the Algerians hadn't behaved like subhumans on the other hand, about 40% of ministers would've been Algerian. And considering how savage Algerians are, perhaps it's better that never happened.

>>68047175
Catch-22.

>>68047233
The difference is that if they didn't have the independance we would ship them back to Algeria.

>>68047233
We actually did have a better quality of life than under the French, in the first couple years of Independence more Algerians were schooled than during the entirety of colonisation. More trained doctors were available to Algerians, Algerians accessed to more higher jobs and official functions. It's a no brainer

Guiana and overseas territories only got more development because France because countries like Algeria or Tunisia who leave out of its shitty colonial policy

>>68047289
>You really arent implying that some tribal cannibal is more developped and civilized than an algerian
I have yet to see Guiana's tribals pull of anything of the scale of France's various terrorist attacks. Or move to Metropolitan France to live off welfare and then complain about how evil the hand that feeds it is.

So yes, some tribal spearchucker is indeed more civilized than an Algerian in my eyes.

>>68047289
>You really arent implying that some tribal cannibal is more developped and civilized than an algerian
Of course he is. Anything is more civilized than an algerian.

>>68047316
there is no catch, you just refuse to see facts

>>68047246
That's not how people work, they were forced to learn French, they lived in shanty towns, and had to work remedial jobs to survive. Life isn't a video game where you can easily do what you want. Anyway discuss the facts not what abouts. Shame on you

>>68047246
>about 40% of ministers would've been Algerian

Lol no.
They'd never let Algeria develop and reach that level of influence on mainland politics if France had two braincells.

>>68047344
Wat? Do you do this with your guianese people or something?

>>68047298
Source? Because your statement is very emotionally charged

>>68047314
>200K

kek you bet they have higher HDI, Algeria is 40 millions.

And still they should be entitled to more political representation, at worse they have to include at least one ministry from any overseas territory in each governement. It's rarely the case.

>>68047379
>they were forced to learn French
Belgium speaks French too. As does Canada. Or, you know, literally every single country Algeria shares a border with?

It's almost like they had options but picked France for gibsmedats.

>>68047379
>they lived in shanty towns
No. They lived in commieblocks, along with italians, portuguese, rural frenchies and others.

But they were the only ones to lack the civilization level to get out of it.

t. grew up in a ghetto suburb

>>68047242
L'Algérie tout comme nous ou la Tunisie est médiocre, mais pas aussi mauvaise que vous essayez de nous faire croire.

>>68047451
La guyane n'est pas si mauvaise non plus, la côte a un niveau de vie très européen, largement au dessus de la décharge maghrébine.

>>68047451
This.

I'd rather live in any Maghrebi country than any French overseas territory or department.

>>68047417
France is 60 millions and they have a higher HDI. Brazil at 200 million has a higher HDI than Algeria too. Don't pretend population size matters.

>>68047451
Don't get me wrong, Moroccans are shit too, but they aren't hypocrites on the same level as *lgerians. The French offered them independence, they peacefully voted in favor, end of story. The Algerians fought to not be French and then moved to France en masse.

>>68047415
just look at Saint Denis

>>68047488
>New Caledonia
>GDP/capita 10 times higher than Algeria
yeah sure, you'd live anywhere for welfare anyway

>>68047487
Maintenant compare le mode de vie d'un guyanais abo est celui d'un algérien

>>68047496
No source. Shame!

>>68047425
>Belgium
Nope, they were only allowed to work in France
>Canada
Nope, Canada didn't want them
>other African countries
Nope still a chance that they could be killed as security for natives was never a priority
Shame on you

>>68047412
Guyaneses mostly don't come in France and those who come are pretty chill, anyway, we're shipping back people from Mayotte, the funny thing is that the Mahorans are themselves expelling Comorians who emigrate on their land.

>>68047597
Ethnic statistics are literally forbidden here but all the places that are "ghettos" now were built as middle class housing in the 50's and 60's, and for decades the government spent billions on those "ghettos" for no result, just to avoid riots.

>>68047592
Tout comme le touareg algérien.

>>68047643
>we're shipping back people from Mayotte
Why's that?

>>68047656
>However, living conditions, especially housing, were often appalling: Algerians, although now French citizens, were at the bottom of the queue for social housing, and many local authority agencies openly discriminated against them. Nothing exemplified Algerians' socio-economic status better than the shanty-towns (bidonvilles) that grew around Paris, Lyons and Marseilles in the 1950s. Although no more than about one fifth of Algerians in France probably lived in shanty-towns at any one time, they were often the essential first step for newly-arrived migrants, families especially, thus many more Algerians were familiar with them. Algerians recount the social stigma of living in muddy conditions - symbolised by the shoes one changed into and out of on entering or leaving the shanty-town. (9) However, shanty-towns were small communities of their own: the largest, in Nanterre outside of Paris, was referred to by Algerians as Al-Qahira (Cairo), and allowed for social and political solidarity, becoming a key base for the independence struggle.
Your source?

>>68047738
because they have a massive influx of illegals from the comors and black africa and it's causing massive unrest

>>68047116
Source ?

>>68047575
kek they don't have a well functiong university and they like other people of your overseas territory migrate to France.

And they still want independence from you, really makes you ponder.

>>68047489
it does, there is much more resources needed in the latter than the former to reach the same rank of HDI.

And really outside of these metrics indgenous guineans live in aids ridden shitholes, all reports from Guyana says so. Latin Ameicans would rather migrate to America than fucking french guyana

>>68047700
Il y'a bien plus de facteurs décidants ceci que juste m-ma race et m-ma religion

>>68047755
What source ?

Whatever you're quoting is heavily biased, but you don't know shit about France and I'm not about to try and dig up shit that you can't understand anyway because you don't speak French.

>>68047813
>kek they don't have a well functiong university
Algeria doesn't neither so...

>>68047777
Notes:
See Neil MacMaster, Colonial Migrants and Racism. Algerians in France, 1900-62 (Basingstoke, 1997). Back to (1)
Ibid., p.224. Back to (2)
See Clifford Rosenberg, Policing Paris. The Origins of Modern Immigration Control between the Wars (Ithaca and London, 2006), Part II. Back to (3)
See Benjamin Stora, Ils venaient d'Algérie. L'immigration algérienne en France 1912-1992 (Paris, 1992), Part I. Back to (4)
Mohammed Harbi, 'Entre mémoire et histoire: un témoignage sur la politisation de l'immigration maghrébine en France', in Mémoires algériennes, ed. Aïssa Kadri and Gérard Prévost (Paris, 2004), pp. 49-57, p.53. Back to (5)
Sayad, who died in 1999, is widely recognised as the finest sociologist of Algerian migration, and his interdisciplinary work including anthropology and oral history is of great relevance to historians of colonial and post-colonial migration. See the English translation by David Macey of Sayad's La Double absence (Paris, 1999) - The Suffering of the Immigrant (Cambridge, 2004). Back to (6)
See Rachid Mokhtari, La Chanson de l'exil. Les voix natales (1939-1969) (Algiers, 2001). Back to (7)
See Todd Shepard, The Invention of Decolonization. The Algerian War and the Remaking of France (Ithaca and London, 2006). Back to (8)
See Monique Hervo and Marie-Ange Charras, Bidonvilles, l'enlisement (Paris, 1971). Back to (9)
The material in this and the next two paragraphs comes from Jim House and Neil MacMaster, Paris 1961: Algerians, State Terror and Memory (Oxford, 2006). Back to (10)
See Vincent Viet, La France immigrée. Construction d'une politique 1914-1997 (Paris, 1997). Back to (11)
Alexis Spire, Étrangers à la carte. L'administration de l'immigration en France (1945-1975) (Paris, 2005), Chapter 6. Back to (12)
Alec G. Hargreaves and Mark McKinney ed. Post-colonial cultures in France (London, 1997). Back to (13)
Paul A. Silverstein, Algeria in France. Transpolitics, Race and Nation (Bloomington, 2004).
18 in fact 1/2

Well this thread unsurprisingly turned into a shit show

>>68042436
Classic France

>>68047592
>Maintenant compare le mode de vie d'un guyanais abo est celui d'un algérien


Maintenant compare le mode de vie d'un noir marocain et celui d'un marocain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV1rcEed3Hg


>>68047738
Because not only they want to leech our welfare but they want to invade us as well.

Anyway why are you defending shitskins can you stop being a cuck even for a minute you're a shame to your ancestors.

>>68047813
>Latin Ameicans would rather migrate to America than fucking french guyana
Well considering it takes the fucking navy to prevent brazilians to immigrate en masse to Guyane, you're wrong. But that's expected, you're algerian.

>>68047869
>>68047820
Paul A. Silverstein, Algeria in France. Transpolitics, Race and Nation (Bloomington, 2004). Back to (14)
See Hugh Roberts, The Battlefield. Algeria 1988-2002. Studies in a Broken Polity (London, 2003). Back to 15)
See Tom Charbit, Les Harkis (Paris, 2006). Back to (16)
Saïd Bouamama, Héritiers involontaires de la guerre d'Algérie: jeunes Manosquins issus de l'immigration algérienne (Manosque, 2003). Back to (17)
Étienne Balibar, 'Algérie, France: une ou deux nations?', in Étienne Balibar ed. Droit de cité. Culture et politique en démocratie (Paris, 1998) pp.73-88. Back to (18)

https://www.history.ac.uk/ihr/Focus/Minnesota gration/articles/house.html

>>68047859
It does. It's defintiely not the best, but the university are functioning, there are teachers for each discipline, classrooms and so on, There is even a university in the most remote desert city, Tamenrasset. this is not the case in Caledonian univeristy

Source: teacher commissioned to change the situaation there and still can't do shit, because eo colonialism

>>68047900
Light stuff compared to what libyans and tunisians do

>>68047900
Just trying to find out about French relations to former colonies and overseas terretories without being memed on so fuck off.

>>68047973
oh? what do we do?

>>68047950
Why are you there and not in Algeria then ? DO you accept than France is just vastly superior than your shithole ?

>>68047931
you're literally cherry picking biased shit without reading, and shanty towns haven't existed in France since the 70's but since you're actually refusing to make a point and just dump leftist garbage that is irrelevant it's impossible to reply to you.

>>68048015
That nigerian stuff you posted earlier

>>68048022
really? comparing france to algeria is overkill mate

ofc he'd rather live in france than algeria but i dont think thats his argument

>>68048022
Just finishing my postgrad, otherwise I was schooled in Algeria and had a better quality of life as an upper class :)

why is there more emotion here than in WWII threads

>>68048037
hey fuck you human trafficking happens everywhere
who the fuck goes through the uncharted desert in a fucking van?

>>68047931
>I know France better than French because i read a few books about it

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Is this some sort of subtil b8 ?

all that butthurt

>>68048077
because the french weren't really nice

if i were to say italy was better to us than france was to them before mussulini went full retard and started following hitler

>>68047755
Are you somewhat implying that those shantytowns were for immigrant only ? That's fucking outrageous, french people leaving the countryside because of mechanizations were housed there too. Then they built the commieblocks. You're fucking deluded.

>>68048077
French are still mad about 1962. Every time Algeria is talked about here, there is a massive French invasion. Feels like 1830 all over again

>>68048035
>decredits recognized university scholarship as "leftist garbage"
Shame on you
You use no sources
Make insidious claims
Move the goal posts
And discredits valid sources against your position by claiming it's false because it doesn't support your world view
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>>68048102
Sorry libya, just shilling for Dz :^{


>>68048121
Amirite
To think you butthurt cucks descend from based gauls and franks

>>68048153
>>68048103
See
>>68048165

>>68048077
because the Algerian war is still a gaping wound in French society due to post war Algerian immigration, the rewriting of history attempted by socialists and communists while people who lost all they had are still alive and the refusal of the french governments to acknowledge the fact that Algerians didn't du nuffin.

France didn't participate in WW2, we were the closest thing to a neutral nation that wasn't Switzerland.

>>68048165
no I'm telling you things that are factual but don't have legal representation because those statistics are illegal in France

>>68048153
>rench people leaving the countryside because of mechanizations were housed there too.

[citation needed]

>>68048202
>Sorry libya, just shilling for Dz :^{
i'm joking mate i know we're all brothers in being scum in the maghreb <3

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I know that when I look up """"""French""""" porn it's always an Algerian girl getting rammed in the ass.

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>>68047931
ALSO

>Silverstein

KIKE

>Hugh Roberts
ANGLO

>Tom Charbit

KIKE

>Saïd Bouamama,

SAND NIGGER

>Étienne Balibar

A FUCKING KIKE MARXIST ADVOCATING FOR FRENCH GENOCIDE

I would kill this guy if i have the chance

>>68048209
Are you the "american" "feminist" shilling for sharia law a few months ago ?

>>68047931
>Paul A. (((Silverstein)))

>>68048221
>>68048235
>>68048259
>ad hominem
>no source
>just claims
Go back to your kiddie forums

>>68048236
No I'm here to bring the truth to light

>>68048229
My grandparents lived in the shantytown of Lyon 8/Vénissieux before they built the grands ensembles of the east and south of Lyon.

>>68048235
That's because none of non leftists would talk or study the subject. That's the benefit of science allowing everyone from every political creed to make its point, now you either stop distributing ad hominem and bring facts to discuss their points or you get out

>>68048309
Still a whopping 43% of Algerians in France lived in shantytowns, can't say the same for rural French or other immigrants.

>>68048324
>>68048294

French academia is heavily biased to the left and contradiction is almost illegal due to our ethnic statistics and hate speech laws; especially on those subjects.

I could name tens of books contradicting you but:
1. you wouldn't read them
2. you can't read them
3. you'd disregard them because they don't follow your narrative

so whatever, facts are on my side, keep jerking it to your rhetoric believing the city of Saint Denis was built by Mohamed or something.

>>68048415
Lad you're totally deluded. All troughout the XXth century people leaving the countryside or coming from other countries lived temporarily in shantytowns. Algerians were the only ones to never get the shantytown out of them.

>>68048456
>hate speech laws
you know you're in no place to claim that bs considering front national is a thing

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>>68048456
>no facts
>just claims
Shame!

>>68048456
Yeah i'd rather not read books with doubtful methodologies.

And where you get the fact that it's heavily biased towards the left?


Ethnic statistics are illegals but you still have statistics by nationalisties which can give a window on the same reality.

>>68048515
???

The FN has been trying to appeal to arab voters for decades and never had a racist rhetoric but again you're talking out of your ass.

>>68048524
I already told you several facts that you disregard.

If you care about the subject read
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_France_p%C3%A9riph%C3%A9rique

>>68048557
Well, statistics give us that between 80 and 90% of criminals in France are muslims, that's not in your favor.

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>French FNer is butthurt because he can't argue outside of his jeuxvideo forum without bringing proper sources

>>68048611
>Wikipedia
Shame!

>>68048646
>your source doesn't follow my narative so it's invalid
Shame !

>>68048646
It's the wikipedia page about a book that gives you a rundown about its content, and you've literally been quoting wikipedia all thread

>>68048679
I read your source (Google translate and knowledge of Italian helps a lot) and none of it has anything to do with the causes of the French social situation from the period of decolonization but rather the effects of it.
Tl;dr you can't even read your own mother tongue

>>68048774
>I read your source (Google translate and knowledge of Italian helps a lot) and none of it has anything to do with the causes of the French social situation from the period of decolonization but rather the effects of it.
So you didn't read at all.

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S-sorry

>>68048774
I think you're the one having cognitive issues

>>68048415
Explain the Vietnameses are doing fine while you are barbarians ?

Both of your people were treated badly, but the Vietnameses don't do terrorism, are good at school, and calm, while your people is a bunch of terrorists and degenerates who can't even obtain the BAC, in fact your people is so bad at school that we must lower the standard of our BAC.

>>68048515
National Front is shit since Jean Marie was expelled, Lesquen is the basest politician, currently.

>>68048611
>https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_France_p%C3%A9riph%C3%A9rique

that's unrelated to French urbanism in the XXth and speaks of recent phenomena.

>>68048504
Still there was a bias disfavoring Algerians that was discussed by the authors previously mentioned. Algerians massively went there and left last. Fact.

>>68048801
Please direct me to where it says on your synopsis Wikipedia page where it says Algerian decolonization

>>68048817
>claims
Shame!

>>68033010
Blacks.

>>68033441
it's your fault for not killing them all.

>>68048826
>Explain the Vietnameses
Explain why the Vietnameses


>Lesquen is the basest politician
Lesquen is the most based politician

FTFM

>>68048857
I read the page in French, it's quite unrelated. It speaks of French working classes going back to rural areas in the last decade

>>68048857
Dont bother there has not been any algerian decolonisation.

>>68043069
ALGS WRECKED!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All Algs need to be indepednant from French colonialism and thus need to go to Algeria, decolonization.

>>68048826
>Vietnam

>Fine
Heiajdhdizkqjxhsjajshxh HHAHAHAHAHQHQHQHQBQBQHHHAHA

>>68048828
>Still there was a bias disfavoring Algerians
Yes, a bias disfavouring savages.

For fucks sake even tunisians, morrocans and blacks are doing better than you, what the fuck is wrong with you.

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>>68033010

Not much

>>68048828
>that's unrelated to French urbanism in the XXth and speaks of recent phenomena.

It backs my claims, that the retarded american keeps discounting while quoting biased sources that focus on a specific issue that hasn't existed in half a century and doesn't have bearings on modern politics.

Most immigration to France happened in the 70's and after, when the shantytowns had already disappeared, after the creation of the "regroupement familial".

>>68048946
it speaks about the white lower class running away from Peri-urban areas overrun by immigration.

>>68043069
This.

Anyone feeling pride for Algeria should be deported there. It's fair and square.

>>68048991
Holy shit savages coming to work and study, how horrifiyng put them in shantytowns.

>blacks

kek

>Tunisians and Moroccans

They had a better relationship with you, mostly.

>>68048826
I can't think of any Vietnamese notable personality while I can think of many algerians and maghrebis

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>>68048947


>>68048946
Oh shit I thought my summary of his synopsis was correct

>>68049050
>claims
Shame!

>>68049068
>Holy shit savages coming to work and study, how horrifiyng put them in shantytowns
Shantytowns haven't existed during the bulk of algerian immigration, in the mid 60s and onwards.

>>68048154
No one cares about your shithole, return to it and stop being colonized by france.

>>68049068
>They had a better relationship with you


Goumier_shedding_a_tear.jpg

>>68049068
He's right tho, blacks are less criminal than algerians.

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>>68049063
This.

>we hate french colonialism
>lets go to France to be ruled by French people
>I hate Algerians
>let me go to Algeria to be ruled by Algerians

>>68049092
see, I give you facts and and a solid source that literally all politicians in France from the FN to the commies acclaimed as relevant and correct and you keep just shitposting.

>>68048235
Lol so a person's race/ethnic group can entirely determine if a paper or book is good or to instead of the content? What kind of idiot are you stuck in some godforsaken early 1900 time bubble. According to your mindset Chinese/Japan can't write anything about their times getting owned by Europe/USA, Africans can't write anything about African history pre-or-post colonial or Americans on Vietnam?

>people still respond to "WELL AKSHULLY MY FEMINIST JEW PROFESSOR TOLD ME..." American posters
Just point and laugh, friends. Americans are a cancer and arrogance is endemic to their worldview.

>>68049107
re-read your history

>>68049131
please