Mexico

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lmao who cares gringo

The Mexicans from /pol/ might know

>>68015061
I don't think he's going to do it as he said he would ,Obama deported millions of migrants and nobody gave a shit, he's probably going to deport less than obama, he's backing up from what he said as I expected , politicians are liars no matter from where they come from

>>68015061
Deporting such a large number of working people (the people that actually make the world run) would damage more your country that ours

>>68015061
would be glad to see all of them shipped into the middle of the Atlantic and just park the boat there.

>>68015169
When an autocrat says something, believe him.

>>68015061
imo we should deport them to canada

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Why do americans like to suck cocks?

They will go back to the US

>b-but the wall!

lmao, all you need to do is give 1k dollars to the agent at the door

>>68015061
Actually yes, the president and several agencies have made it clear they're working on such. It isn't going to be millions tho, by Trump's own estimate of an intial deportation phase of in between 2 and 3 million undocumented migrants with criminal records only half would be Mexicans at most, as Central American mareros would be the main targets and VISA overstayers from lesewhere in the world are also likely a good portion of that.

Our economy can absorb a little over a million people a large part of whom do have relatives and homes to return to, yes. Central America you'll wreck and some industries in the US, mainly agro-business, construction and restaurant/hospitality, will suffer, maybe not as badly as we will but it should certainly be hitting your wallets.

>>68015088
I imagine you, as a citizen of your country, would care. Imagine the massive influx of Mexicans who will be looking for jobs, houses, education, etc. I feel like it's going to put a massive amount of stress on your society. Furthermore, imagine all the violent criminals they will also deport.

>>68015289
>looking for jobs, houses, education
Their family can manage that.

>>68015289
The violent criminals are already here. Why the fuck would violent criminals go to the US, where death sentence still exists for some fucking reason, when they can get away with anything here?

>>68015325
What do you mean?

>>68015277
Oh yea, and I forgot, that's going to be a lot of taxpayer dollars flying them all over, you can't bus non-Mexicans to our border

>>68015061
Assuming that a high percentage of these deportees are part of the US workforce and that they are kicked out in a short span of time. Do you have a plan to recover that loss of man power? Or is the plan just Trump propaganda of "we'll make corporations hire local people"? Without hows and a solid plan and without adressing possible consequences of said transition?

>>68015061
Plans? for a problem that is just about to come and we all can see that it is going to be a disaster?

JAJAJAJAJAJA

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>>68015061
who cares lol

>>68015524
They are stolen jobs from the middle class white poeple. We are going to give it back to them, they belong to our people because they were stolen. And we're not going to lose a dime because we are going to take back all the factories from Mexico and stuff will be cheaper.

The sacrificial pyramid's gonna be busy for a while.

>>68015622
>only white people are middle class
>implying middle class americans, regardless of race, want those jobs back

Lol yea sure they want to go out pick strawberries in the fields. What a goof ball. You really think middle class america is dying to get those type of jobs back? Janitorial work, dishwashers, prep cooks, etc? Yea, some might take the factory jobs, but majority think Mexicans take those jobs when the spectrum is much wider.

Who will america point the finger to when automation goes into effect and all the retard low education Americans can't take jobs they don't want anymore?

>>68015205
He may look like one but he's not really an autocrat, we'll just have to wait and see and if he does, I hope it teaches people from here that we need manos negras and militarism or true democracy that doesn't hurt the honest man and gives benefits to the criminals
>>68015622
I wouldn't call grassmowing , maiding and sweatshopping a middle class job ,I agree with you on the fast food chains but they are not exactly medics and they don't use medical or dental insurance, or anything for that matter , you'll have to compensate that too

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>>68015061
the mexican government didn't even care about the deportees.

i hate this country

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>>68015622
>They are stolen jobs from the middle class white poeple

Wait, wait, wait, wait a second...

From middle-class white people? Do you mean like, office jobs? Jobs that need at least a college education to get them? That would mean that those guys are more educated now than when they left Mexico without the elementary school completed!!

Man, wow, this could be the best thing to happen to Mexico in a long, long time then. And all this time I was lead to believe by /int/ that they all were working as gardeners, janitors or field laborers.

I mean, wow, just wow.

>>68015622
>And we're not going to lose a dime because we are going to take back all the factories from Mexico and stuff will be cheaper.
>and stuff will be cheaper
how

>white middle class working on the fields

>>68015752
Steve Bannon, Jeff Sessions, Mike Pompeo, Tom Price, Betsy DeVos.

Yeah man, lets wait and see what he does.

>>68015622
>middle class fruitpickers
Eh oh el. Prep your butts for seasonal workers.

>>68015833
Oh, yeah, and Mike Pence.

>>68015289
>marero and drug dealers looking for jobs
Yeah , I don't think you understand how our country works

>>68015833
Who?

>>68015876
His proposed cabinet. His minister of education is a complete cronyist pick as well which has left a taste of disgust in my mouth.

>>68015876
www.google.com

It is not good.

>>68015897
Hillary was "pro" migrants
Obama was "pro" migrants
Trump is BUILDING THE FENCE now
Trump is going to make us all"go back"
Don't believe politicians and if it's true then read the last part of my post

>>68015959
I didn't make myself clear, don't believe them because they just say whatever you want to hear, hillary attacked migrants in the 80s and called us along with the blacks inhuman or something like that and she killed thousands of muslims but now she supports us, Obama made black people poorer and Trump has no experience ,he's going to deport the normal number of migrants and the media is going to exagerate it , they did the oposite with Obama

>>68016008
Nah dude, the people he's appointed so far are a bunch of cronies. The guy in charge of the department of defence was let go from his previous position because they thought he was too erratic for the job. Trump just gave that madman a position of power.

It'll be very interesting to see what happens since republicans are the majority in the house and the senate.

Fuck you gringo we don't want you garbage

>>68015959
>>68016008
Trump is not a politician. He is a con artist who has been sued thousands of times, who ripped off people with his University, who once lost 1 billion years in one year, who doesn't pay taxes. And he doesn't give a fuck about any of that, he even shows off about it.

Don't look at all of what he says "he's backing up from what he said as I expected", look at what he does:

He also said he disenvowed the alt-right movement, and at the same time he picked Steve Bannon, the head of breitbart and a self proclaimed alt-rightist, as his chief strategist.

He is an autocrat. And he very much intends to do what he says. It would be extremely naive to not believe that he will try to make everything he said during campaing. And every single one of his picks is showing that he meant a lot of what he said. And don't forget that Republicans have the power over everything in the US, and even the republicans who were critics of Trump are already kissing his ass, save a few exceptions.

Interesting read
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/11/10/trump-election-autocracy-rules-for-survival/

>>68016137
I didn't knew about that hitler part, interesting reading , we can't get any worse than the 200i crisis tho

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>>68016292
>2008 crisis

>>68016137
Trump just wings it, he's a con man yes, but the kind who thinks as long as you believe it is not a lie, he's gone on recors saying he never said things which there's video for, he gets called on it and dismisses it, the man has no sense of integrity or consistency, he's fucking shameless.

Trump's only moral compass as a president will be his naricisst ego, a desire to be admired and some warp ungrounded sense of self preservation.

He's very likely to become a cautionary tale of be careful what you wish for

>>68016292
>we can't

Yes we can, supposedly 175,000 Salvadorans will get deported here, all those people will come here and will not be able to find a job... and... yeah, that means a lot more crime and poverty.

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>all the spic butthurt itt

Love it. Love it.

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>>68015239
they're warm and rubbery

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>>68016701
We'll see who will be the last laughing.

>>68016701
Shut up cletus we are discussing shit , you just post kek memes

>>68016701
this will be an interesting year :')

>>68016732
Spoiler alert ; it will be me

>>68016815
lol sure nanny state

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>>68016701
I'm never leaving and you can only cry about it.

>>68016815
Yeah right, good luck with china and those protesters m8, at least we're use to live like this

>>68016859
Used*
Oh , and good luck with that recount boyo, it's just going to make the division bigger no matter the outcome

>>68016849
>I'm slogging through the US visa process
>mexicans like this faggot are skipping the line and living there illegally
Shoo, get out paco

>>68015061
so sad that milions of mexicans have already murican passport

trump should kick all brown people desu

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>>68016913
I was born here.

>>68016937
>implying trump won't revoke birthright citizenship retroactively for children of illegals

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>>68016949
The president can't do that.

>>68016949
That's literally impossible for the president to do.

>>68016949
>wanting to go through an amendment
Do you hate freedom Trudeau?

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GO TRUMP

Europe is always like 10 years later after US in everything

so in 2025 there will be huge deportation from europe too

>>68016996
She's hot.

>>68016965
>>68016979
>>68016983
but Trump will have judges in supreme court

>>68017037
and I have hairs in my armpit, what's up with that?

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>>68016965
>>68016979
>>68016983
>will have a large majority on the supreme court
>has almost enough state houses to pass a constitutional amendment
>he can do literally ANYTHING

>mfw America elected a white supremacist to power with all the tools to start a purge

>>68017037
The supreme court isn't in charge of that either.

So do people actually think Trump is going to deport all those people? Genuine question.

>>68017075
so who is?
>>68017076
I hope so

>>68017076
Obama already deported around 2 million. And out of the 11 million illegals in the US, around 4 are Mexican, so it is not impossible.

>>68017068
The senate can still filibuster it any amendment changes.

>>68017095
Congress.

>>68017076
Not really, it's going to be like any other president from my experience and if he does , they are just gonna go back via plane with the excuse of "turism"

>>68017037
>>68017095
KEK I bet half of the people that voted for trump have the exact same view of their own country.

>>68017135
but congress is republican...

mb not now...but after 2020 election Trump will own whole party

>>68016996
I don't hate you for being white and I hope that someday you understand that I'm a human being too, I work and I went to college, I play vidya on my free time

>>68017104
This includes those turned away at the border and they fucking come right back anyways, which is why folks are sick of it.

>>68017161
Every senator has the power to create a filibuster which can stop any bill ever passing.

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>>68017188
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/20/us/more-mexican-immigrants-leaving-us-than-entering-report-finds.html?_r=0

>>68017176
just stay in el slavedor and we are cool

like Trump said...only the best of your kind can come to US

we need something like this in EU too

>>68017176
Just stay where you are and keep doing what youre doing :)

Enough of you here already, many many many illegally

>>68015061
>implying Trump is going to deport all the illegal immigrants
>implying Trump is going to build a wall

It requires a lot of money, Mexico isn't willing to pay the wall.
As far as I know, Trump only wants to deport the criminals, gang members (chicanos) and faggots with a criminal record. Mexico is a shithole already so they will be fine with it.

nothings going to happen, Bill

You think jews will deport their cheap labor stock because youre not happy by their presence in your shitty "country"?

Just ask the russians how that went when the soviet majistrat were importing shit fucktons of Kazaks to moscow

your only hope is to purge the kike from government and institutions and hope they havent done enough damage from the inside out.

[spoiler] They did [endspoiler]

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>>68017235
>NYT

Are you serious?

>>68017235
how they know the exact numbers if they are illegals?

>>68017273
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/20/more-mexicans-leaving-us-than-entering-study-says.html

>>68017292
They actually pay some taxes, because it is impossible not to do it. Plus reports from the border patrol.

>>68017292
how does trump knows how many illegals are if they are illegal?
I could say that currently there are 0 Mexican illegals living in the US, how can you prove otherwise?

>>68017292
Well, if they calculated more in 2000, even if those are not the real number ,it still means a huge decrease

>>68017292
Can you even read?

>apprehensions at the southwest border

>>68017292

Why do you care so much, retard?

we are going to deport them and then cry like a bunch of bitches because nobody is doing all the jobs no one wants to do.

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>>68017356
We can just hire the blacks right?

>>68017325
so gang members are paying taxes?
>>68017327
trump have his own sources, not fucking new york times
>>68017329
370k is still a lot

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>>68017384
>hire the blacks

>>68017248
>>68017249
Why do you hate illegals so much? It's not like they steal the jobs you do ( read the first parts of the thread) and they don't kill as many people as blacks and they are legal there, and I'm going to canada legally ,I don't like the US, they are too racist

>>68017399
>his own sources
>his own sources know more than the oficial border patrol

>>68017399
>so gang members are paying taxes?
They have to get their money into their bank accounts somehow.

>>68017399
If the buy anything, yes.

The pic is from the Washington post, not the NYT, and you can see the same report from fox news (those liberal bastards)

I feel like I am arguing with a teenager, so I'll stop desu.

>>68017408
idk but I just like the concept of white countries, borwn countries, asian countries and arab countries

just stay with your race and everything is nice...no tension. lower criminality etc.

its just better for all

we can still play videya via internet or travel but just stay in your cultural enviroment

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>>68015330
>The violent criminals are already here.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421673/nearly-2-billion-spent-jailing-illegal-immigrant-criminals-america-2014

We spend about $2 billion each year jailing your violent scum. 130,000 in Texas from 2011-2013 and 72,000 in California during the year 2014.

If they were successful law-abiding people they wouldn't be resorting to illegal border entry, human trafficking, and all that stuff. They'd be living a good life in Mexico.

Every country has to deal with its criminal retards, and we're giving them back to you to deal with.

>>68017459
Stormfront fag go back to your shelter

>>68017408
>why do you hate illegals

Question answered right there. Top tier educated immigrants who go through process = good. Illegal/refugee 3rd world welfare trash = fuck off and die. We owe nothing to these people, their arrogance in their disregard for law disgusts me.

And btw, theres tons of illegal spics in gangs, pushing drugs and trafficking/killing people from coast to coast. There should be none

>>68017459
why do you care much about our country?

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>>68017479
>We spend about $2 billion each year jailing your violent scum.


Thanks bill, you're a real hombre,

since yous got that much pesos then surely yous can build a wall y yourselves.

aye gringo?

>>68017486
I am actually jewish
>>68017498
bcs I care about every white country with judeo-christian tradition

>>68017459
I don't like that idea , and most of the US doesn't like that idea either ,trump lost the popular vote and what you are trying to suggest is segregation of legal minorities, even trump said (at least to the press) he's against that, and you are probably not 100 percent white

>>68017479
If you call violent the fact that you jail them from smoking pot and not stopping at a red light, then yes.

http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/immigrants-underrepresented-californias-crime-rates-5604

>>68017491
Do you realize how long it takes to enter USA legally? It takes 10+ years average. You'd be wasting time, time that you can use to work and make money.

Also there are plenty of immigrants who did enter the USA with tourist visas but they decided to stay. What about those? They did enter legally, yet they decide to stay and work.

Open your mind negro. I've to admit we need to get those illegals with criminal record out of the country though. They're parasites.

>>68017549
>Trump lost the popular vote

How many states did he carry you faggot? Winning big cities doesnt mean shit, represenative republic working as intended.

>>68017537
Go back to Israel. What are you doing in Czech?
Go back to your own community and stop race mixing.

That's your logic

>>68017586
gerrymandering wasn't something that the founding fathers wanted.

>>68017581
Thats the law, I dont sign them I just obey them. Also visa overstayers need to be deported.

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>All this hopeless gringos

>>68017586
Yes, and that means that even though he won , the majority of people is not happy with the outcome and they are rioting, i wasn't talking about his presidency you retard , I was talking about the division in your country and how most of them support diversity(not necesarily illegal immigrants)

>>68017479
>The statistics don’t back up his claims,” he tells NR. “We have a limited snapshot into the actual problem of undocumented or non-citizen incarceration. We don’t have any breakdown of the crimes that are being committed. We certainly don’t have any basis for saying they commit more crimes per capita than any other demographic of the population. There’s no statistically valid basis for saying that, at all.”

Uh... did you read your own article?

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>>68017600
>Go back to Israel.


them kikes are currently taking a hike back to yurope and russia because Ahmed is getting quite furious over their hutzpahs in that region

they're fearing another holocaust


and they should. :^)

>>68017616
Trump broke the law when he made deals with cuba but it's okay for him to do it....right?

>>68017600
my logic is deporting all illegals including people who were illegals and now have citizenship

than US needs huge educational program and change the attitudes of minoritiies

integrate 100% or BTFO

>>68017459
You do realize Latin American countries are already bi-racial don't you? The term "brown" doesn't exist in Spanish, that's just some made up American tripe.

>>68017600
Kikes already made Europe their home, have you seen the state of Sweden?? :^)

>>68017648
>change the attitudes of minoritiies
how does that even.... Jesus Christ I just give up man
Be happy Kike

>>68017616
>I obey the law
Some laws need to change, there are families working and paying taxes here. They're not harming anyone.

You know who are the real leechers? US citizens themselves. Check our welfare system

imagine being mexican/brown/ugly and waking up and looking at your ugly skin and face in the mirror every morning, day after day

the absolute state of your mental health

>>68017632
>the majority of the people

You are literally a little brainwashed mud creature. A few thousand leftists and paid agitators burning down their own cities means literally nothing, they did it all electoral season. Their candidate lost in a landslide.

Again, lefties in cities are not representative of our country

>>68017665
Hey no me esperaba a otro de la turba blanca

>>68017682
>55% of the country doesn't represent the country

>>68017648
You're a fucking minority yourself. Go back to Israel your white washed kike.

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>>68017648
But Czech is a country meant for white people, and you aren't, you said that you like the concept of white countries and brown countries, etc. so follow your logic and go back to Israel my friend. Or am I seeing a double moral here??

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>>68017672
what I fell everyday desu, feels nice :v

>>68017672
Damn son, who mexican hurt you? who hurt you?

>>68017719
>But Czech is a country meant for white people


lol'd

>>68017698
Correct. City folk are absolute scum and I'm so thankful our Founders created the electoral college to check them and their faggotry

>>68017648
and does any of your plans have you going against the banks and corps that hire them and send jobs to china like Trumps...oh wait. Opps, no one ever talked about tackling about wall street in any of there plans on capital hill. At trump may fulfill his promise to challenge the top .01%. maybe.

>>68017632
I would love to see referendum aboout this

Lots of people hate Trump, are democrats and still will be voting yes to kick immigrants

Liberals just wants to look good on facebook etc, so they are all "refugees illegals welcome" but at the on of the day they lock their car when they see black or latios person

>>68017734
t. hernandez diego rodriguez

>>68017737
They created it before cities became the norm for civilized nations.

>>68017682
>a few thousand
>more than 52 percent

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>>68017684
Hay como cinco salvadoreños en /int/... no somos raros.

También deberías de dejar de responder las respuestas a los /pol/tards, aunque les hables con lógico ellos nunca van a entender.

>>68017672
In mexico you wake up hoping the government doesn't steal your money and fucks your wife, with the fear of inflation and crime, hoping you won't get diabetes and your mamá will die in her sleep...thinking about bringing food and giving education to your family.

In Australia:
You wake up and hope a kangaroo doesn't kills you or fucks your wife.

>>68017741
typical commie

>>68017748
if you are talking about legal immigrants then that's inhuman , even your ethnic group was kicked out of like 100 places ,hell, even when our country was doing ok in 1930 we received jewish refugees

>>68017796
Mierda tanto que hablo inglés que mi español ya me falla kek

>>68017796
Esto, básicamente.

>>68017719
I'm white...I'm cultural jew

>>68017768
Tremendous foresight :)

>>68017774
Has the coke disentegrated your brain? Are you implying these are large riots where average joe Hillary cucks are out in droves? It's shitskins and commies just destroying stuff, small numbers. Dont speak on what you dont quite have the facts on. Not a good look

>>68017850
A veces me pasa también, y mi inglés ni siquiera es bueno. Maldita sea.

>>68017857
It was designed to stop rural retards from running the country.

>>68017796
Solo te voy a decir algo, necesitamos a alguien como martinez

>siguen discutiendo con el racista judio.

kek why even bother?

>>68017847
only illegal+all kids of illegals+all who were illegals and somehow get the citizenship

>>68015341
They've sent money right?...

>>68017887
Mine have.

>>68017847
w-we didn't let that many Jews in tho, our president was a Hitler and Mussolini fanboy so he didn't like the idea of having Jews here, the boats filled with Jews were sent back to Europe.

>>68017836
>calls me a commie after I voted for trump and johnson
everytime with your lot. I say something against your ideaology nore disrespect you and you go to name calling and eventually iand nothing to refute it. Now tell me will lord trump go against the lobies that control washington and make an example by bringing his businesses back on short, or is he all words? Do I need to post a pic of one of his ties I have in my bedroom that say made in china?

>>68015622
After all that sun and low melanin levels they won't be white anymore. Jajajajaja

>>68017867
Lefty city boy mad as fuck. Enjoy bankruptcy when your federal funds get cut, all to protect trespassers who dont give a fuck about the country or you for that matter.

>>68017863
Igual yo, la verdad es que necesito urgentemente socializar con personas reales...

>>68017909
Negro no one cares, your country is a shithole. Filled with mareros.

>>68017863
No te preocupes. Te entendí perfectamente.

>>68017929
Federal funds have always gone to rural areas.

>>68015680
Blood for the blood good!...sun needs bloods to fight the darkness and so another day will come

>>68017909
auschwitz is better than el salvador

>>68017870
Exacto, puta que bueno fuera que le prendieran fuego a todas esas carceles. Pero bueno que se le va a ser, nos toca aguantarnos.

>>68017950
So you wont be needing them then hey Slick? :)

No complaints from you allowed in the coming months

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>>68017981

>>68015757
They've never cared of deportees, they just care of themselves (and jews). They are weorried because now people will notice how many problems the country has.

>>68015622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cfDqEJ8RP0

>>68017857
Small numbers...if you say so

>>68017997
>They are weorried because now people will notice how many problems the country has.

Wait are you saying mexicans can't tell how fucked their country is?

>>68017996
Nice taxfoundation image from 2005 bro

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>>68017942
Don't be mad my Jew friend, I'm in no way related to that guy nor I share his views.

>>68017979
Sure it is my friend

>>68016633
Oh!...maybe you will notice that your country has problems to solve! (like us)

>>68017980
De donde sos ?
No me digas que vas a votar por el cerote de nayib
Ahuevo , esos pendejos le dan mala fama a mi pais

>>68018012
It is small numbers, all in leftist strongholds and i challenge you to prove otherwise.

Pro tip you cant

>all these salvadoreans in this thread
Since you cerotes are here. What's your country doing to solve the problems with the maras?

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this is whole problem with brown countries

look at el salvador

they are breeding like rabbits even when they economy is africa tier

mb US army should go to Central America and enforece birth control? idk

>>68018075
>the typical jew sticking his nose where it doesn't belong

Who gives a fuck? El Salvador was always a shithole and it's infested with gangs.

>>68018038
De Santa Ana. Mierda pero yo no sé por quién votar, ósea, hay alguien que merezca mi voto?? Todos los partidos son una mierda. Por quien votarías vos??

>>68018070
Our government has killed lots of them this past two years so uhh that's something

>>68017901
Great, majority should have a family waiting for them.

>>68018060
https://www.google.com.sv/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/heavy.com/news/2016/11/trump-protests-list-which-states-cities-have-anti-trump-protests-riots-today-tonight-where-photos-videos-philadelphia-ohio-portland-chicago-texas-iowa-new-york-california-live/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwip_LKfwc3QAhVD5YMKHW8nC7EQFgg5MAY&usg=AFQjCNFu-uT71tVQM_VeyRSee9JHaOLQHg&sig2=HvaUigAyyTUGI7YySHYWsQ
There are protests in canada too, not even in my country does that happen and they are still protesting

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>>68018116
>Our government has killed lots of them this past two years so uhh that's something

I wonder why they don't just use their military force to clean the parasites.

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>>68018075
We used to breed like rabbits. Not anymore.

Also you're the one who started all this banter but now you're the one getting butthurt kek

I'm not antisemitic by the way, it was all banter.

>>68018116
They don't kill anyone don't lie, they help them!
Yo votaria por arena , son con los que nos va mejor

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>>68018021
They can tell but try to hide the problems instead solving them: because reality is harsh, and even more harsh when you look at your failed government with no moral lead.

>>68018148
That's a lie, we haven't killed anyone and the military is full of gangmwmbers like the police, the gov supports them and has oficial pacts with them

>>68015475

http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

Illegal immigration costs the US $113 billion per year, so forking out a few million (let's say 30 million, 3 million people * $100 plane ticket) is just fine. Hell, even one billion, let's assume that rounding them up requires a huge temporary budget spike to ICE. That's 1/113th of the penalty we waste every year.

>>68018147
Again, each of those cities is blue as fuck and full of subhumans like you, yet only a few thousand pieces of complete worthless detritus actually go out and riot.

Have a good night and try not to die. I know how shitty El Salvador is via a LEGAL immigrant who spoke of it firsthand.

>>68018148
Well, the police and military force are kinda in a war with them right now, in a year they (our police and military force) have killed like 1250 mareros and gangsters have only killed like 60 police men, so they're winning, obviously, but yeah, 1250 is still too little we need to wipe them out completely, but muh human rights

>>68018206
>military is full of gangmwmbers like the police, the gov supports them and has oficial pacts with them
Jesus christ, your country has no chance then.
You should get out there unless you believe a miracle is going to fix your country.

>>68018116
>vos
Don't tell me you also use "usted"

>>68018175
>arena

Los tipos que negocian con las maras. Nah este país está perdido

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>>68015718

>the magical strawberry was invented in the 1980s and was never picked by anyone any year prior

that's how dumb you sound. and yes, a person who is unemployed and given an opportunity to work a job that pays the bills and puts bread on the table will take that job (so long as welfare isn't more attractive).

due to the role of the US government in ruining these citizen's lives with NAFTA, relocation costs of unemployed workers should be funded by that same government.

the time of the Gilded Age robber baron is over, my friend. either accept it or put your head over the guillotine of inevitability.

>>68018243
He is lying, there is no proofs of that. Not saying our actual government is not corrupt but there is no proofs of that

>>68018232
You call me subhuman, yet, you are here doing the same thing I do minus the exrcise and you probably watch little kid's shows and you are probably a weeb or a brony

>>68018271
We use "vos". But we use "usted" in formal occasions with people you don't know (like a job meeting).

>>68018279
>so long as welfare isn't more attractive
JAJAJA, you're fucked

>>68017670
>and paying taxes here.

Yes, clearly paying that 7% sales tax and nothing else (income, property, etc.) is totally paying taxes.

Are you underaged? Serious question

@68018328
I call you subhuman because your iq is probably around 70 just judging by our conversations, nice projections btw. I really must be going now though.

ya se enojo el americANO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ

>>68018345
I knew it, I don't get why though you weren't as secluded as the southern cone during Spanish rule.

>>68017638

I don't give a shit if it's higher or lower per capita compared to our own citizens. In fact, I never made any claims relating to that.

Foreign nationals who commit crimes in our country should be kicked out, no ifs or buts. Especially since housing them in jail costs more money than executing them.

Same goes for retard Americans who commit crimes in other countries. Those people should be deported right back to the USA. It isn't rocket science.

>>68018405
I remember my professor saying that we received a lot of north spaniards during the XVIII century, and they influenced our speech a lot, so that's why we use "vos" and our accent is very similar to the one from that region, too.

>>68018378
>illegals don't file taxes meme
You're obviously uneducated and uniformed.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/general-itin-information

Plenty of illegal immigrants file their taxes because they're looking to fix their legal status.

>>68018373

Yes, you're not wrong about that

But I prefer that we fuck ourselves instead of letting other countries do that for us. At least we can claim it's our own fault

>>68018428
What's up with the memers that say jail time is cheaper than execution?

>>68018472
PLENTY
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>>68018484
It kinda it's because it's a long and pricey process to exucute someone

>>68018484
Not him but death penalty it is more expensive.
Prisoners wait 10-20 years until the execution day/

>>68018472
Read the source in >>68018215

>Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury.

>much of the revenues collected are refunded

Nice. Next thing you'll be arguing is that a 5-10% sales tax is clearly supporting our glorious country when in fact the most burdensome tax (unless you're some ultra rich property developer) for the average citizen is in fact the income tax. The same one that is seldom paid and frequently refunded.

That's why I asked whether you were underaged.

>>68018384
Whatever you say boyo, and it's not a projection, you guys do that all the time, and you are not gonna get rid of illegals that easily , maybe we are relatively peaceful but blacks are fucking you over you can shitpost and insult me all you want but your country doesn't aprove your ideology and the media supports BLM

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I don't know about you, lads, but this thread has been very comfy.

>>68018472
>lets pay taxes and not get any benefits from it and give the place in squatting in illegally my info

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>every spic in here hates trump
colour me surprised

>>68018466
AFAIK what caused the difference was the constant travel of Spaniards to the viceroyalty of New Spain, the poorest regions that were not often visited didn't get the trending words used in Spain hence the use of Tu and Usted in both Spain and Mexico, the use of Vos was actually formal originally.

You can see this in Brasileiro and Portuguese and some French words too.

These negroes anti-illegal immigrants should look up the welfare system. Who are the real leechers? US citizens or illegal spics?
What are we going to do after we deported all the cheap labor? Who's going to take their jobs? Niggers? You gotta be jokin

>>68018637
NEETs

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>>68018573

Anyone with a brain cell would be, because they realize that their country is going to be destabilized in proportion to how much they've been cheating the US labor market the past 40-odd years. Who knows how much of an economic boost was granted from being able to discard your criminal human trash on the US border, and then focus resources on middle-class and upper-class citizens while having less crime.

It's comparable to the 23 (of 27) members of NATO that don't pay the 2% target funding. Freeloaders will eventually see their chickens come home to roost. "B-b-b-but Russia will annex us." Should have paid your 2% so that the US didn't have to foot an unnecessarily large portion of the NATO bill. Sweet dreams pupper.

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>>68018637
>What are we going to do after we deported all the cheap labor?

Boo hoo, you might have to raise wages for farm workers to attract them, awww, I'm so sorry you corporate shill

God forbid wealth inequality is stemmed by having to pay workers attractive wages instead of cheating the system by breaking labor laws.

>b-b-b-but muh veggies will be more expensive!
So long as it removes one unemployed person from the welfare pool, it's a net gain to the country. Furthermore that one previously-unemployed person can now spend his wage on rent, food, entertainment, whatever -- which drips through the entire economy.

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We're finally getting our jobs back, familia!
I can't wait to get our well deserved jobs back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg3WFt72RM8

>>68018655
A lot of countries have just dumped their prisoners off at the us while pretending they are political refugees. Then they wonder why people have a bad opinion of those countries

>>68018702
They act like life would be worse when in reality jobs will be back to what they were when i was Leaving highschool.

>>68018702
>So long as it removes one unemployed person from the welfare pool,
>implying niggers want to stop sucking the milk welfare titties and work

Nice delusion you have there.

>>68018758

Have you even read the thread?

>>68018279
>(so long as welfare isn't more attractive).

>>68018758
Deport them to the bottom of the oceans were the remains of the boats that brought their ancestors are.

>>68018600
Yeah, the size of my country also explains why it was easier for the Spanish language to properly spread.

I remember there was this Mexican kid in high school that used "Usted" and "Tu". I never minded his use of "usted", but hearing him say "tu" was the funniest thing ever

>>68018787
>implying Trump will touch the welfare system

Like I said nice delusion you've there.

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>>68018718

Why do you think this would happen? Jobs are here not because we stole them or anything. Your own greedy companies are outsourcing them because it's cheaper to produce things over here. Cry all you want to your president, if your greedy companies say no trump will have to follow their instructions like the little bitch he is.

What a joy to work on a sweatshop as a form of modern slavery. Thanks god and the bible. Fuck jews.

>>68018653
Yeah nobody has better work ethic than NEETS

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brown people ITT are trying to act cool but their are really nervous :D D

>>68018858
>Cry all you want to your president, if your greedy companies say no trump will have to follow their instructions like the little bitch he is.

>what is an import tariff

kek, I love talking with foreigners on an international board who know nothing about basic international trade

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I know 5 illegal immigrants

2 mexicans
1 chinese
2 koreans
1 russian

Why dp people just focus on the mexicans?

Both mexicans that i know went to college and work decent jobs

The koreans work in a restaurant as servers

Chinese guy got a degree too, but all he does is play videogames, and probably posts on /pol/

Rusian guy is just like any other white person


My question is:
Would you keep immigrants that have an education and no criminal record?

>>68018899
Isn't their crime overstaying their visas?

>>68018891

I agree, because americans are totally not brainwashed and oblivious to the world. It's fantastic to discuss economics on an anime board filled with normal fags since 8 years ago.

>>68018899
>Would you keep immigrants that have an education and no criminal record?

They want all the illegals out even the workers with no record. Because muh jobs

Just /pol/ being /pol/

>>68018858
I was being sarcastic, you autistic weeb.

>>68018891
You do know they can just raise the prices on their domestic products to compensate. It's far cheaper than rebuilding your entire manufacturing structure and hiring new/ paying workers more.

>>68018946
but beiing illegal is a crime

>>68018971

Yeah, i'm not. Fuck this place and everyone that was an enabler. The fuck is this board anyway, just erase it and make a NGE one.

People have to drop the "tax card" bullshit
We pay more taxes in a year than whar Trump has paid in his whole fucking life

>>68018946
>jobs should go to trespassing foreigners instead of citizens

Blow your fucking brains out

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>>68018899
>Why dp people just focus on the mexicans?

In terms of gross numbers its central Americans, but those people still cross over the northern Mexican border (ironically, Mexico invested in a southern border wall to keep them out).

But yes, anyone and everyone who entered illegally should be kicked out. They skipped in line, bypassed our vetting process, and proved themselves to be selfish. No, you're not entitled to live here. If the US government deems you to be a good fit, whether it's politically, economically, educationally, whatever, you can immigrate here legally through the normal processes.

Hell, the white person who bumrushed Trump's stage at a rally to try to assassinate him was an illegal Brit who overstayed his visa. Deport him back, he clearly doesn't value the USA -- so why should we value him?

>>68018946
>They want all the illegals out even the workers with no record. Because muh jobs

Man it's a really radical position to think that the social contract between US citizens and the US government should produce prosperity for those citizens.

Holy shit we've been doing it wrong, why don't we should give all of our resources and tax money to improving the lives of foreigners?

>>68018815
Entendiste mal, el uso de vos es mas antiguo que el de tu.

Vos=Usted originalmente.

Puedes ver esto en el Portugués Europeo y el Francés también.

En estos casos no existe Usted solo Tu y Vos, siendo tu el modo informal y vos el modo formal.

>>68019012

Good thing there aren't ~15,000,000 illegal Trumps running around not paying taxes, or your non sequitur might actually hold water

>>68019015
CHECK YOUR WELFARE SYSTEM, YOU IGNORANT NEGRO
Those "Citizens" DON'T want to work.

Are you telling me high school kids are willing to clean toilets and work in the farms?
The delusion you faggots spew is unreal.

>>68019016

If you are kicking everyone that's an illegal enjoy your 3% population of Indians.

Why would anyone value USA anyway's? What has come from that country that makes it so worth to value it over other's? If anything they've fucked everything for future generations. Hell even china being a shit hole might as well be american fault indirectly.

>>68019050
no wehn they are competing with mexicans illegals whos working for few bucs/h

farm work for 20USD/h is ideal as summer work for high school kids

>>68019047
He is still literally stealing from the country by aboiding to pay taxes
He is a criminal and a fucking traitor for taking money away from america

>>68019105
There aren't enough kids, willing to work those hours and living in those areas to make that viable.

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>>68019050
>The delusion you faggots spew is unreal.

Not him but your delusion is on an even grander scale.

>these citizens don't want to work

Have high school kids ever cleaned toilets?

Have high school kids ever worked on farms?

Have destitute people, chronically unemployed, ever done those things?

In the entire history of the USA?

Yes they have you goddamn retard, you're just so far removed from what economic suffering is that you have no fucking clue what people go through each day to survive. I imagine some prissy university-graduated retard hopped up on a computer in the expensive suburbs wondering how spoiled white brats living next door would ever deign to resort to low paid or manual labor.

But you know what? When dust is piling up on your plate and you can barely afford clothes, which is apparently something you haven't experienced, you don't sit there and thing "oh no, my fingernails will get dirty!" which is apparently what the human waste you surround yourself with think.

So no, fuck you. You are so far removed from the economic issues of the lower class that you, quite frankly, do not deserve an opinion. You are a low information voter sequestered away in a tower, pretending to know how ant-sized people on the horizon live.

>>68019125
>literally stealing

Nah actually, what Trump does is legal (at least currently, loopholes should be closed).

Where illegal entry into the country, not paying income tax, etc. is very clearly illegal according to all of our current rules.

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>>68019179
source?

and farm should invest more in robots etc. instead of cheap illegals workers

>>68019111
Ahí esta lo raro en España no se usa vos, se usa usted como singular formal y vosotros como plural formal.

>>68019226
Population densities in rural areas for one. Even here in Canada we bring over seasonal workers from the Caribbean to do that shit. Automation could replace the need for illegals in the US but it doesn't solve the issue of rust belt, Appalachians and Deep South whites staying even poorer and now even more unemployable.

>>68019185
>you have no fucking clue what people go through each day to survive.

That's ironic coming from you.

>>68019272
than bring seasonal workers to US too...and after seaon kick them out

I mean your whole argument that US need illegals was that otherwise hwole US ecomnomy will collapse

see...there is the solution

KICK ALL THE ILLGEALS MEXICANS AND BRING SOME OF THEM FOR SEASON(with gps chips)

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>>68019252
Me vendría bien ver unas películas españolas de actualidad, me acuerdo que en las que he visto ellos usaban el vos predominantemente, pero quizá es mi cerebro jugándome trucos.

>>68019331
Our agricultural industry isn't as all year round or big as Americas.
>gps chips
Jesus Christ, try to be serious.

>>68019408
actually it looks fency :)

but my whole point that there are millions of people areoud the world who would love to go US for 2-3 years and agriculture workers

plus you know whos these peoeple are and you have medical and criminal records and everything

so why keep illegals?

tell me one good argument

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>>68019472

>>68019347
Puede que te confunda su uso del presente perfecto en lugar del presente simple.
Cuando un mexicano diría: me dejaste
Un español diría: me has dejado

>>68019472
Because you start to run into same issues as you do with the majority of illegals (overstayed visas). Nobody in their right mind is going to sign off on tagging people like cattle using gps chips.

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>>68019514
Puede ser... de cualquier forma aprendí algo nuevo ahora, cuando vaya a España voy a tratar a todos esos putos de "vos" para que se sientan raros