Brazil will be part of the Paris Club, whose objective is to

>noparistugal

>>68008218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8Z1Z-nRWg

>>68008218
Brazil will be the retard of the club and be made fun of regularly.

>>68008218
So you'll be the club's token black guy? What's the point of having a non OECD nation that's literally worse off than Mexico on every single economic metric?

The whole point of the Paris club is nations who loan money to the developing world meet to discuss how to finance these countries and handle their debt. Unless you're legit just sitting at the table to be a "voice" for others it basically means you'll be loaning out Brazilian taxpayer's money to countries like Argentina (who will soon be joining the credit market again) with a better HDI and less poverty than you. That's pretty generoud Brazil, especially considering you'll be dismissing any real chance of profit on unavoidable debt re-negotiation schemes for some countries, hell this is something wealthy nations generally do at a loss.

>>68008760
Brazil is a major creditor, investing a lot of money in many institutions.

Brazil joined the group because it invested a huge amount of money in Africa.

Brazil joined the group to be helped and recover economically

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>>68008760
I don't see your name on the list, shorty.
Now scram!

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That seems nice.

good.

Would you like a head pat? :3

>>68009134
>>68009109
Hello my French brothers.

>no zealand

>>68009247
sheep lovers

>>68009270
monkey lovers

>>68009190
What?

>>68009422
You know... Paris.

So, what else Brazil has to do to be respected as a superpower?

>>68009856
Be imperialistic and kill a few million subhumans, Argentina is a prime target.

>>68009856
Do not intervene in the economy, arrest bandits and encourage entrepreneurship

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>>68009028
You loaned money to African countries?

>>68009856
to send more of your tax to the fucked up shitehole countries

>>68009856
Have stable industry, water, and power, and regulate favelas.

>>68008218
I feel sorry for Brazil, they do their best to be recognised as a superpower but nobody takes them seriously as half their population are savages who make Brazil's statistics on HDI, GDP per capita, etc terrible on paper.
If it wasn't for the favela monkeys Brazil would be recognised as a first world great power.

>>68010020
Not just for African countries. We did port in Cuba, hydroelectric in Nicaragua, metro in Venezuela, port in Uruguay, power plants in Bolivia, we built things in Ecuador and Africa

We forgive Venezuela 20 billion

http://politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/eleicoes,petrobras-abriu-mao-de-cobrar-calote-da-venezuela-em-obras-de-refinaria-imp-,1144316

>>68010003
You will have to intervene at some point.
For entrepreneurship you really need to up education and poverty reduction to make it work as well as some safety nets.

>>68010020
yes so they can be our coloni- cof cof- under our sphere of influence just like Latin America

>>68008218
>only industrialized countries
>russia is in it
kek

>>68009856
Sadly you've done everything to be considered at least a great power, except half your population are favela monkeys that are impossible to civilise, which drastically bring down your average living standards and well being.

>>68010159
Brazil's problem is that it intervenes too much.

>>68010128
>>68010200
So you are saying the only way to become a first world superpower is to genocide niggers like Britain did?

>>68010159
But the intervention here is so much that it needs to be said this way. To give you an idea, private schools need to follow the national curriculum, they do not have the autonomy to teach.

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>>68010155
>Cuba
>Nicaragua
>Venezuela
>Ecuador
>Bolivia
>Africa

meh, Uruguay may actually pay, that's 3-5 decades late tho

>>68010217
>>68010237
If it wasn't for government intervention we would probably had gone in 2009 just like everyone else, meanwhile we grew like 8% next year

>>68010313
Did you know that the agenda of the PT was to destroy the Brazilian economy on purpose to implant socialism?

This is part of the socialist tactic. We would be transformed into a Venezuela

>>68010233

no, you just flush their communities with drugs like the americans did then segregate them

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>>68010370
So Dilma's impeachment was also part of their masterplan?

>>68010194
Brazil usually tries to join every group that Russia is in, because Brazil wants to surpass the Soviet Union in both influence and military power and nuclear weapons.

>>68010433
well but we got no nigger community, so what should we do?

>>68010442
You are not supposed to tell them that...

>>68010233
Tone done with socialism, as socialism doesn't work when half your country isn't interested in contributing to society.
Adopt a more American model that is a mix of socialism and capitalism.
America manages to be have one of the highest living standards in the world despite only being half white.
Brazil is like USA in how you are both multiracial societies, so what works for USA should theoretically work for Brazil.

>>68010628
>Tone done with socialism, as socialism doesn't work when half your country isn't interested in contributing to society.
which half are you talking about? The poor people or the rich people?
>Adopt a more American model that is a mix of socialism and capitalism.
>Brazil is like USA in how you are both multiracial societies, so what works for USA should theoretically work for Brazil.
But our cultures are completely different m8, shouldn't we mimick Portugal, Spain or Italy?

retards this country has literally no salvation
repent

>>68010628
The power of Brazil is centralized in the capital. In the United States, federal entities can legislate and have much more power

>>68010742
>In the United States, federal entities can legislate and have much more power
Yes the south shall save Brazil!

>>68008218
>whose objective is to help countries in economic crises

Like Brazil?

>>68010628
>Tone done with socialism, as socialism doesn't work when half your country isn't interested in contributing to society.


They do contribute but not enough due to poverty and inefficiencies in the state,federal level and laws.

>>68008218
I for one welcome our new Brazilian overlords

>>68010865
PT's mismanagement robbed us of a whole decade of economic growth, and I'm not even talking about the recession.

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>>68010901
>PT's mismanagement robbed us of a whole decade of economic growth, and I'm not even talking about the recession.
Doesn't look like it

>>68010701
>which half are you talking about? The poor people or the rich people?
niggers
>But our cultures are completely different m8, shouldn't we mimick Portugal, Spain or Italy?
You can't mimic Spain, Portugal, and Italy economically as they are monoracial societies while your multiracial. You are culturally like them but that doesn't mean you can economically be like them.
Economically you would be better off adopting American economic system.
So what I'm saying is don't change your culture, you are culturally Mediterranean so keep it that way, what 'm saying is economically change as you are a multiracial society therefore a socialist system like the Mediterranean nations wouldn't work in Brazil.

>>68010924
Read this in its entirety before ever posting here again.
http://www.econ.puc-rio.br/uploads/adm/trabalhos/files/td626.pdf

>>68010936
Don't bother responding to him, he's a notorious shitposter with the most nonsensical arguments you will ever see.

>>68010978
>http://www.econ.puc-rio.br/uploads/adm/trabalhos/files/td626.pdf
What's a summary of what that's talking about?

>>68010936
>niggers
niggers literally contributed for half of our population and literally gave birth along with whites to brazilian culture m8. We aren't america in that sense, niggers got the same culture as whites here, think the same way, follow the same religion and do the same shit as everyone else. A favela here isn't like an american ghetto where you only see people of one color on the contrary you see poor people there of all colors m8.
>So what I'm saying is don't change your culture, you are culturally Mediterranean so keep it that way, what 'm saying is economically change as you are a multiracial society therefore a socialist system like the Mediterranean nations wouldn't work in Brazil.
So I don't get it really, you say that niggers hinder our progress but at the sametime you say they behave the same as whites here? So why should we treat them different and not really follow a Mediterranean way to progress which envolves a strong government and state capitalism like Italy in 1880s

>>68010978
>read this

Not an argument

>>68011082
>on the contrary you see poor people there of all colors
el favelito srs jkjkjjkskjks

noooo jkasjaskjasj>>68011112

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>>68011082
We need to adopt a liberal system, not an interventionist model

Why did they let in a country that underwent like 10 years of consecutive negative growths?

Are they desperately looking for countries to bail out? Are they saints?

>>68011161
>hes still replying to the MAV
stop hell post the same images with the same shit everytime

>>68011112
>Fomos melhor no
mercado de trabalho, onde avançamos na margem mais fácil: colocar
as pessoas para trabalhar. Em suma, o Brasil avançou, mas poderia
ter avançado muito mais. Neste sentido a década foi perdida
KEK

>>68008218
Isn't Brazil in an economic crisis though

>>68011176
and by that i mean everything you say hell go NUH HUH LOOK AT THIS GROWTH

>>68011173
We are less than 5 years in recession. Brazil will grow again in 2017

>>68011173
>Why did they let in a country that underwent like 10 years of consecutive negative growths?
lol wat

>>68011225
yes cause you know GDP Growth means nothing haha

>>68011031
tl;dr: Brazil grew 10-20% less than it could in pretty much every single aspect during PT's reign, with many things like market competitiveness and education getting worse relative to other countries.
Subpar investment in both economic and human capital also left us with little "real" growth that translates to a sturdier country in general.

tl;dr tl;dr: populist shortsightedness

>>68010978
>>68011363
>>68011031
>http://www.econ.puc-rio.br/uploads/adm/trabalhos/files/td626.pdf
kek I am reading it, and it's basically saying from the beginning trying to prove before everything how Brazil hasn't grow as much as it should like Chile and other countries disregarding the sizes and politics of those countries and simply analitic comparing graphs and saying: SEE THIS IS HOW MUCH BRAZIL SHOULD HAVE GROWN SEE BRAZIL IS SHIT CAUSE IT HAS DONE NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS TINY SHITTY COUNTRY WHICH SOLD ITS SOUL FOR A BETTER GRAPHIC

>>68011312
>>68011411
see, not a single argument

Já que vão falar entre brasileiros que falem em português

>>68011363
>Subpar investment in both economic and human capital also left us with little "real" growth that translates to a sturdier country in general.
yeah, it's not like they have invested in universities or education at all amirite or had the biggest budget in education of all time

>>68011458
Yeah, you sure proved I am right by comparing GDP growth of totally different countries

>>68011507
im not even him but you literally have no argument but THIS BLOG TOLD ME THIS THEREFORE ITS GREAT
didi tu fez o enem mes passado oque que tu sabe

>>68011173
>>68011195
Brazilians genuinely believe Brazil is a superpower and first world.

>>68011458
>>68011544
Stop replying fucktard, I just posted the pdf and explained shit to the other anon that asked about it, not to argue with the delusional MAV.

>>68011544
>im not even him but you literally have no argument
you haven't point out a single argument but your shitty pdf, and you haven't even explained to me what from it proves I am wrong, I even had the patience of reading it and analyzing it for you

>>68011576
>Stop replying fucktard, I just posted the pdf and explained shit to the other anon that asked about it, not to argue with the delusional MAV.
Yeah I am sure you will understand how things work by sheltering yourself and not engaging in discussions and by simply posting a pdf and saying how wrong I am

>>68010249
Our government knew the risk. The only ones that could actually have an economic boom and be able to pay us quickly were Venezuela and Angola. Ironically, they're both far worse nowadays.
Also, Mexican GDP per capita surpassing ours is only a very recent event, 2014 IIRC.

Did you know that there is a faction (vide liberal) wanting to overthrow the Brazilian Republic and instituting a new one?

Now bring back the Empire of Brazil, Portugal and Algarves; kill every single favelado, rebuild our navy & military and we're ready for Mars.

>>68011680
Yes and we used to export as much as the whole of Mercosur combined, we still do more than Brazil today.

Say what you will but Mexican living standards were higher through much of the 20th century

>>68011944
Export =/= GDP

It's retarded to compare it to development.

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>>68011944
Mexico isn't nearly as divided as Brazil though. You simply cannot cluster the entire country into one mainly because of said division.

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>>68011944
Don't you worry Trump is going to destroy NAFTA

>>68008760
Why are you here, lad? The hue is not bothering anyone.

This other thread would have been more fitting for this https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/67922046/#67922046

But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

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>>68012002
>Mexico isn't nearly as divided as Brazil though

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>>68012002
By divisions you mean this, not the crap you posted.

>>68012065
We're talking about real economics, not teenage /pol/-themed garbage.

Brazil does not export practically anything, it does not import almost anything.

Imagine if Brazil become an anarcho-capitalist country? We would grow 20% a year

>>68012095
>real economics
>not intertwining with the way taxation and legislation in the country works
You are pathetic.

>>68011944
It has always been a back and fourth ride. We were better in the 19th century, between 1935 and 1970 and from the early 2000s up to 2014. In all timeframes left we were either tied or you were ahead of us.
Also, our economic history has been mostly about self-sufficiency for the last 90 years, it's only logical that Mexico would end up exporting more.

>>68012131
>You are pathetic.
2bqf you are for falling for such a weak bait

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>>68012157
>It has always been a back and fourth ride.
Because of the political instability and the lack the rule of the law, due to the retarded amount of centralisation inherited from Portugal. No country that had more than 7 constitutions in 150 years can have a stable and steady economic growth.

>>68012114
>Brazil does not export practically anything
>unironically having one of the largest transcontinental markets in the world
Brazilian teenagers: the thread.

>>68012065
>Piauí
>aquele PISA
>aquela taxa se assassinatos
O que deu tão certo?

>>68012203
BRASIL É UM MERCADO FECHADO

FECHADO

F
E
C
H
A
D
O

SABE O QUE É ISSO?

>>68012226
Não tem assasinato se não tem habitantes.

>>68012199
>>68012157
>Because of the political instability and the lack the rule of the law, due to the retarded amount of centralisation inherited from Portugal. No country that had more than 7 constitutions in 150 years can have a stable and steady economic growth.
Everything will be solved when the South has its rightful hegemony!

>>68012266
E o que isso tem a ver com exportação?

2 SOLUÇÕES PARA O BRASIL

1 - DESMEMBRAMENTO DO PAÍS

2 - MONARQUIA PARLAMENTARISTA


QL É MAIS PROVÁVEL?

>>68012273
The mistake was thinking that colonies that were colonised like Hispanic America and had no cultural similarities could live under a centralised government. It's bound to fail. We are just delaying the inevitable and what should have happened already. Brazil being a political unity is as absurd as the former Spanish America being one too.

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>>68012114
Does not import anything right? 5 billion dollars in cellphones, but it does not import anything!

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>>68012343
>The mistake was thinking that colonies that were colonised like Hispanic America and had no cultural similarities could live under a centralised government.
Yes, the South is the most different region of Brazil, it's singular, unique, you can even say it is its own country! Hence when the South get its hegemony it will be a superpower and show Brazil how much better we are!

>>68012341
NENHUM!

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>>68012203
>>68012393
Brazil's trade-to-GDP ratio is extremely low, dumbass.

You are amazingly ignorant on every aspect of Brazil's economy and politics and yet you come to shit up every single thread with your nonsensical retardation.

Please for the love of God educate yourself a little bit because it's fucking embarrassing to share a flag with you, you are Dunning-kruger syndrome personified.

>>68012400
It's about the rule of the law meaning jackshit in the country and this turning against the productive states. Brazil as a political union has failed all its citizens and I want a solution, so I don't have to pay for the their mistakes and get a maybe get better future for the kids I intend to have.

>>68012461
>their mistakes
Fix'd.

Brazilians on /int
>bashing Brazil
>Hating Brazil
>Brazil sucks
>"We could be a lot better"

>>68012425
>It's about the rule of the law meaning jackshit in the country and this turning against the productive states.
Yes, and that's the difference between our glorious South and the inferior untermensch Brazil. Our country is a bastion of morality, production and law abiding citizens! Hence when we get our hegemony everything is settled and we won't have this dead weight for us to carry around anymore!

>>68012484
You get to see how much of a "union" Brazil is with that crap. We are the Austria-Hungary of the southern hemisphere. At the blink of an eye we are at each-others throats.

>>68012273
>>68012341
Eu não apoio exatamente a secessão em si (como muitos sulistas também não apoiam a secessão absoluta), mas maior autonomia para os estados. Se pudéssemos reinstaurar o Império do Brasil ainda seria perfeitamente normal, como no caso do Rio Grande do Sul, tornar-se uma república independente porém súditos ao Imperador, daí retornando exatamente ao que éramos no Segundo Reinado. O mesmo deveria ser feito com Pernambuco (agregando Paraíba e Ceará), daí teríamos legitimamente o Império do Brasil como realmente deveria ser. Cada província/república teria sua autonomia política e econômica porém visando soberania e defesa mútuas.

Em uma nota lateral, possuir um arsenal nuclear e uma possível dissolução das (((Nações Unidas))) no futuro também facilitaria todo o processo para colocar não apenas o Brasil em ordem mas o mundo como todo, o que puramente ideológico.

>>68012526
>>68012484
>You get to see how much of a "union" Brazil is with that crap. We are the Austria-Hungary of the southern hemisphere. At the blink of an eye we are at each-others throats.
Yes, hence why the South should show its might and its cultural differences, because we are indeed different, white europeans and the best this inferior brown country has to offer, hence why we should separate ourselves to show how inferior they are!

>>68012022
I'm here to make a fair point man, anytime you make one of these "we 1st world now" threads it's fair game to point out the holes in that, Brazil is a great country and they certainly have the full capacity of becoming a force for good in the world.

>>68012549
>maior autonomia para os estados
Isso não passa no Congresso com metade da câmara sendo do Norte/Nordeste e 2/3 do senado sendo dessas regiões. A secessão absoluta vem crescendo como ideia justamente por isso, a impossibilidade do Estado brasileiro sair desse nó em que vem tropeçando desde 1824, quando D. Pedro I dissolveu a assembléia constituinte. Conseguiu-se a façanha de se escrever uma constituição e em 30 anos ela já está caduca.

>>68012039
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>>68012549

thanks for creating /luso/ 2...
Btw,nobody cares aobut brazil so you can go talk about this on /luso/

>>68012549
Nações Unidas não precisa ser extinta e sim desaparelhada e ser colocada para o seu objetivo principal que é manter a paz mundial

Eu sou a favor da Monarquia Parlamentarista com Estado minimo, autonomia estatal e municipal, voto facultativo e economia extremamente liberal com poucas regulamentações

Mas isso é quase impossível de acontecer. Eu acho mais fácil a secessão do que isso acontecer de fato.

>>68012582
Brazil can't even make it's own citizens tolerate each other, let alone become a world player. Brazil is a geopolitical frankenstein.

>>68012610
Não estamos falando para os estrangeiros e sim para os brasileiros portuga idiota

>>68012549
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>>68012611

Sim e assim o Sul seria uma potência invejada pelas outras federações sem cultura e sem raça. Porque o Sul é superior na sua gênese, porque nós somos descendentes de alemães, italianos, pessoas com capacidade intelectual muito aquém daqueles pardos com baixo quociente intelectual!

>>68012648
Vai ganhar mais (Yous) com isso no /luso/ do que aqui.

>>68012425
15% is a lot. The reason it can't export more is because Brazil doesn't produce anything worth exporting.

>>68012625
So is the US and while admitedly "force for good" is something they've been miserable at, they certainly are an complished nation.

>>68012610
Actually I've been reading this thread. So funny to finally see a /luso thread in English. You should do this more often. Post a few qt's and name the next thread /lusoeng

>>68012671
Você acha que estou brincando? É o que acredito piamente a tal ponto de postar todo dia isso para o mundo inteiro.

>>68012685
Because of their political system and somewhat established culture(WASP) being shared across the country. Think about living under the same flag as a Chilean, Argentinian and Uruguayan with a centralizing and power hungry capital and an incompetent political class that shat 10 constitutions in 150 years. That's the way I can explain how Brazil works to Hispanics, because it's hard for you guys to get a grasp on how this country works.

>>68012484
Don't forget the "South Brazil is white and first world" meme.

>>68012683
No it's not a lot, a country with Brazil's economy size would have around 4x more than that.

>>68012697
how about you go fuck yourself and go to sleep,it's probably 5:16 am in finland right now

>>68012610
We English speakers are learning alot about Brazil from this thread

>>68012685
>>68012721
That's why when the South secedes everything will be settled, because like america we are germans and have a really strong culture different from the rest of Brazil.

>>68009856
Put a man on the moon.

>>68012747
No you aren't, you are learning how autistic people think

>>68009856
Feed at least 50% of your population

>>68012751
We are putting an orbiter there with some microbes, is that enough?

>>68012748
/\ Just warning that a lot of the people who say this are not from the south

>>68012747
You are just getting a glimpse on how we can't tolerate each other.

>>68012734
Rude!
>>68012727
It should be replaced with "California is white and first world" meme

>>68012781
But even if they are it's irrelevant.

>>68012748

>muh south
>muh country

>>68012803
>>68012794
>falling for this obvious bait
Stop.

>>68012794
If the south of Brazil were a country, it would probably be on the level of Chile the same day that it separated.

That is, above Portugal

>>68012611
>Nações Unidas não precisa ser extinta e sim desaparelhada e ser colocada para o seu objetivo principal que é manter a paz mundial
É exatamente este o problema. Imagine que, futuramente, "descobrimos" que a única solução para países se desenvolveram de forma sadia não-ironicamente envolveria métodos de "genocídio" para manutenção da população. Alguns indivíduos simplesmente não enquadram-se nos padrões intelectuais de uma sociedade civilizada, é simplesmente o cérebro de cada um, e estes indivíduos existem em todos os países, porém países subdesenvolvidos possuem um número vezes maior em comparação aos países desenvolvidos.

A ONU NÃO TOLERA quaisquer atos de violência contra uma população, mesmo que esta população esteja em um território soberano, e é exatamente isto que deve acabar. Esta mesma ONU hoje discute a proibição da pena de morte, enquanto Israel está livremente esterilizando Árabes e Africanos e utilizando testes genéticos para confirmar que é legitimamente Judeu.

O ONU é um câncer mundial que visa controlar nações, e nenhuma nação soberana deveria ser subordinada a uma instituição. O papel único e exclusivo da ONU deveria ser: diplomacia para que países não declarem guerra uns aos outros, e mesmo que haja guerra, diplomacia para que os conflitos não escalem para uma guerra nuclear. Apenas, e nada mais além disto.

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>>68012803
>>68012781
>>68012817
>>68012870
Yes don't you know how different the South is from Brazil? We are so different that we have to post how white we are in every thread, our culture consists of a shitty copy of Oktoberfest, autism, getting drunk with shitty wine and copying American culture and getting double europea citizenship to say how much of a special snowflake we are

>>68012879
A southerner fucked your mom when you were a little by?

>>68012817
In terms of what?

Wow Brazilians talking about politics are the only form of political discussion of 4Chan that doesn't make me want to blow my brains out.

>>68012870

A ONU ataca Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1hBIvXHP2c

>>68012896
>boy
Fix'd.

>>68012905
Esse é mais longo, 10 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1ST_YRvZ28

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>Didi e Caxias no mesmo fio

>>68012772
Gonna need land reforms and I don't really trust the government on that in Brazil.

>>68012902
Every Brazilian believes himself to be a diplomat. That's why they talk so high and mighty.

>>68012937
It can work but way too much special interests.

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>>68012941
I am not Brazilian, I am Southern Brazilian, it's totally different, hence why you should acknowledge me

>>68012937
There is no hunger problem in Brazil anymore. They stopped existing in the early 90s and even then they were restricted to the Africa tier areas of the country.

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We were supposed to behave ourselves in front of the guests, we just got in the Big Boy's Club after all.

>>68012977
>>68012937
>They stopped existing in the early 90s
you mean the 2000s?

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>>68012879
WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITEEE!!!

>>68013004
No, the early 90s.

>>68012902
It's pretty cringe.It's the equivalent of 4 monkeys talking with a british accent and discussing about wine

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>>68012905
Da mesma forma como George Soros financiou embargos e manobras socio-econômicas contra Israel. A ONU é uma organização globalista que faz mau não apenas à política mundial mas o próprio desenvolvimento natural da civilização humana.

E aqueles mesmos envolvidos na fundação da ONU também não-ironicamente estavam envolvidos na escalação dos conflitos da Primeira Guerra Mundial que eventualmente levou à Segunda Guerra Mundial e para o caos absoluto que havia se tornado em 1942.

A ONU é extremamente corrupta e não há nada de boas intenções nesta organização literalmente criminosa.

>>68013025
No, the 2000s

>>68013061
No, the 90s with the first land reforms and social programs.

>>68013052
Sabia que o Soros ta investindo na Petrobrás?

http://www.istoedinheiro.com.br/noticias/negocios/20161123/soros-volta-comprar-acoes-petrobras/434942

>>68013079
No, the 2000s with Bolsa Senpaiília and finally by getting out of the UN World Hunger Map

>>68013052
Vai pro /pol/ Caxias, antisemitismo é ilegal aqui.

>>68009856
Stop behaving like wild chimps in online games

>>68012721
* Think about living under the same flag as a Sonoran, a Oaxaqueño and a Yucatec with a centralizing and power hungry capital and an incompetent political class that shat 12 constitutions in 200 years.

Fixed it for you

Seriously man, our country had to go through some rather brutal history with wars against France and the US as a part of the deal

>>68012776
Why are you doing that while there are people living in shanty towns across your whole country, many without access to proper plumbing, and electricity?

O Brasil foi pro saco no golpe de 1889

depois foi moído na Era Vargas onde o cara PROIBIU A IMIGRAÇÃO EUROPÉIA NO BRASIL HUEHEU, proibiu os imigrantes europeus de se expressarem na língua nativa, centralizou o poder, tirou o poder dos entes federativos e criou uma Corte Superior aparelhada (como é hoje em dia)

2 coisas: Monarquia Parlamentarista e descentralização

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>>68013164
Mexico was ruled as a colonial entity, as New Spain even before independence. This is something Brazil never has experienced, since the first thing resembling a political unity was when the Portuguese court ran away to Rio in 1808. This was the first actual administration after almost 300 years of literal neglect. All the colonies dealt directly with Lisbon, much like the Viceroys in Spanish America. The comparison you have to make is with all of Spanish America being one country, not one Virreinato being one, which would be somewhat natural. Your comparison is off by a mile, mate.

>>68013231
>monarquia
Cresce um bocadinho puto...
E há mal em impedir que os imigrantes se expressem na lingua nativa?

>>68013205
Did you know that people living in favelas own electricity and treated water for free? Often with cable and internet for free as well.

>>68013271
Have you ever heard about portuguese brazil?It had a governor after all.Stop spewing bullshit you fucking pardo

>>68013205
They have no jawbs or dreams, and to have dreams you need to inspire young brazilians with satellites and rockets that don't explode.

Also our space program is completely forgotten so it's not like this a big investment or anything.

>>68013278
What the fuck? Brazil's nicer to be poor in the America than.

>>68013322
We also have free healthcare and education for all the population...

>>68013277
Sim, Monarquia. Se você é contra que diga o motivo.

O Monarca precisa garantir a credibilidade do país e bem estar da população, caso contrário ele cai. Ele sempre precisa pensar a longo prazo pois ele vai querer governar por centenas de anos. Ele pode dissolver o Congresso Nacional caso queira votar uma lei anti-população (a votação vai acontecer HOJE, vão estragar a Lava Jato).

Além da população ter um modelo a seguir, ele nunca vai agir como os políticos agem, vai querer sempre ser respeitado.


O herdeiro da senpaiília real estudou em Harvard, Yale, tem doutorado em Economia e várias outras especializações. É libertário e eu já vi streams dele no Youtube falando com americanos, o cara é extremamente culto e sensato.

Ele realmente sabe que existe um plano comunista na América Latina, sabe dos globalistas, burocracia como forma de centralização de poder, etc

>>68013308
You don't need a fucking space program your retards.Just join NASA

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>>68013306
The governor was powerless and there were two general governors, one for Maranhão and Brasil. They were literal decorative figures, since the power was help by the city halls and the General Captains. The hollow institution of the General Governor was only created in 1720, with little of no power compared to the city halls and local elites. He didn't even have control over the colonial militias for fucks sake. Go educate yourself, Manoel.

>>68009856
>Brazil
>Superpower

For starts, try having a GDP that's not literally 10 times smaller than that of the US

>>68013322
He is bullshitting you, of course.

>>68013360
>held
Fix'd of sleepiness.

>>68013347
We will never join fucking NASA because burgers are conspiring against our space program exactly because they want a monopoly, we are actually launching the satellite with an Indian rocket.

>>68013403
>We will never join fucking NASA because burgers are conspiring against our space program exactly because they want a monopoly

Kek, we don't even use our own shuttles anymore. The American people couldn't give less of a fuck about NASA.

>>68013322
>>68013374
What I said is true.

For Brazilians: Have you ever heard about "gato"?

People from the favelas illegally put the house wire on the power line and pay nothing

Same thing with the internet. In the case of Cable TV they have illegal satellite as well.

>>68013340
O herdeiro à familia real portuguesa e brasileira é D.Duarte Pio.Filho do herdeiro da coroa portuguesa e a da herdeira da coroa brasileira.

>>68013428
satellite receiver*

>>68013322
>Brazil's nicer to be poor in the America than.

Fucking hell, you're stupid

>>68013428
You don't live in a favela, you only read sensationalist media.

>People from the favelas illegally put the house wire on the power line and pay nothing

This is a gigantic crime, with a fine of 10,000 and prison for years.

>>68013322
The US poverty line is literally higher than the Brazilian median income. Poor in America=middle class in Brazil.

>>68013442
Mas tem outros herdeiros também

>>68013501
Ai já se escolhe herdeiros agora?

>>68013483
Can be. But you can not consider currency conversion, Brazil's currency is vey devalued.

>>68013483
Again people not understanding how currency works.

US living costs are also through the roof compared to most of the world precisely because we use American dollars.

>>68013635
Then compare by PPP GDP per capita, you'll see the same thing. The US's is $56,000, Brazil's is $15,000.

>>68008218
I don't get it. Shouldn't you improve your own shithole?

Is your plan to show the nations you "offer" money pictures of your favelas, so they feel bad and give you stuff instead?
>well nigeria we'd be happy to loan you some brazilinos, also here take a look at our houses arent they pretty
>we cant take your money mr. hue, here, take some of ours, you clearly need it more than we do
>HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>>68013678
That's surprisingly less embarrassing than I expected.

>>68013864
Yeah, Brazil isn't as poor as memes make it seem, it's actually richer than the global average ($11,000).

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>>68013271
Obviously I'm not claiming our histories are parallels of each other, the equivalency I have used in the past with Brazil is that your equivalent to our poorest southernmost states (in that they're mostly dfficult jungle terrain, ours is also very mountanous) is something like half your country, and I'll concede that's in and of itself a difficult scenario. Brazil grew up from the coast inland whereas Spain had the advantage of the infrastructure of the Aztec empire spreading from the historical center of our country already complete with roads that included frequent rest stops, even latrines, and large agricultural bases complete with aqueducts and irrigation works. Mexico had the first printing press in the continent as well as the first university and this was all but decades after the fall of Tenochtitlan.

But leaving that aside we were a much larger country then and we faced a series of destructive wars in the 19th century the likes of whioch your country did not experience. What is telling is that by the early 20th century your challenges were also largely oportunities (Brazil IS a resource rich country) and we were both on par in terms of economic development, as we roughly remain today.

While certainly history and circumstances specific to each country molded our dofferent societies and the choices each made, we largely succeeded through revolutionary socialism, the very recipe most South American nations here blame for their problems, and most of our issues today, from the drug war to the threat Trump has become to us, derive from free trade, openness and abandoning what was historically uncompromising nationalism.

It's the choices you made as a nation throughout the 20th century, in terms of a national project, that are mostly responsible for what you became today. And the exceptionalism discourse has little to do with that.