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How did Whites catch up and surpass the rest of the world? Is

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How did Whites catch up and surpass the rest of the world?

Is it because they got slaves to do all the work for them?
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>>67971200
Slavery wasn't exclusive to white countries
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>>67971248

Large scale slavery where they literally repopulated slaves onto another continent for labor... pretty sure only Europeans did that
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>>67971290
Slavery in Africa has existed throughout the continent for many centuries, and still continues in the current day in some countries.

Systems of servitude and slavery were common in parts of the continent, as they were in much of the ancient world. In most African societies where slavery was prevalent, the enslaved people were not treated as chattel slaves and were given certain rights in a system similar to indentured servitude elsewhere in the world.[1][2][3] When the Arab slave trade and Atlantic slave trade began, many of the local slave systems changed and began supplying captives for slave markets outside of Africa.[4]

How did white people get slaves? Who sold them?
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>>67971200
Slavery is a huge scam. Niggers don't work well at all and you have to feed and house them. Jews in the USA influenced policy to allow slavery where it was illegal, and then shipped a whole ton of the here to scam people and try to ruin the racial makeup of the country.

>yous exploited us
Imagine how much cotton they could have produced if they hired competent individuals who took care of themselves
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>>67971200
>that picture
what is rome
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>>67971354
That doesn't make sense..

Isn't it true that there's more slaves in Africa right now than there ever was in the US?

Why isn't the free labour helping Africa become prosperous? Could it be that whites created the institutions that made their countries great, and that slavery wasn't such a large component?
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>>67971290
Sort of yes; but the Islamic world captured and kept more slaves over a longer period of time. But Islamic countries aren't gripped with white, liberal guilt, either.
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>>67971290
>what is the arab slave trade
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Guys how did White people get slaves?

Who sold the Slaves? I'm just stuck on that part, is it true that Africans sold their people into slavery? I don't believe it!
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I know I'll take a bunch of murdering cannibals from another continent, feed, clothe and house them, deal with the occasional chimpouts, and they do all the work! What a genius economic model! Thank you Mr. Steinberg!

>yus exploided us
>we build dis cuntry
>rayciss ass craka
>muh mudduhland
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>>67971489
We wuz pickin cotton, we practically built dis country nigga
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>>67971200
if that were the case, Africa would already have space colonies in other star systems at this point
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>>67971458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NXC4Q_4JVg
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>>67971354
Except it barely cost anything to feed and house them, and even if they don't work well, they make up for it in hours. Also, the Christian Brits were the first ones to bring slavery to America, so if I were you I'd go back to >>>pol
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>>67971200
>How did Whites catch up and surpass the rest of the world?
jews
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>>67971570
>Except it barely cost anything to feed and house them, and even if they don't work well, they make up for it in hours

Why isn't Slavery making the countries where it exists to this day great?

really makes you think...
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>>67971290

>he doesn't know about the BIGGEST SLAVE TRADE IN HISTORY which still has some underground trade conducted today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

Don't blame you though, our western education only teaches us that Europeans practiced slavery.

Did you know that NA aboriginals also practiced slavery?

And who could forget about Japan's comfort women?
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>>67971570
>Also, the Christian Brits were the first ones to bring slavery to America

I... what?
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>>67971458
Niggers are cannibals and would probably sell their own family, captured enemies or anyone into slavery.

Tell me that these people would make good workers. In reality we got scammed into babysitting a bunch of cannibals, taking care of their children. Jews filled up their pockets and gave our country this nigger plauge
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>>67971607
because slavery (or gulag) is only good at earlier stages of development when you need lots of unskilled force (to build electric dams for excemple)

later it becomes useless (like slaves won't make cpus for you)
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>>67971642
rly makes you think...

Why are only Whites demonized as evil for slavery then?
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>>67971644
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
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>>67971650
>In reality we got scammed into babysitting a bunch of cannibals, taking care of their children. Jews filled up their pockets and gave our country this nigger plauge

Rly makes u think.

Is it also true that only the richest land owners had slaves, not literally every white person as if it was a household tool?
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>>67971570
complaining about /pol/ should just be a straight up bannable offense

if all you're going to do all day is bitch about another board because you disagree with them you're just a redditor trying to impose your shitty forum culture on a website you don't understand
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>>67971642
Comfort women were hired prostitutes. They were paid
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>>67971683
This board is only for posting porn and "easter?".
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>>67971650
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>>67971650
>>67971701
did theyz built this country or not?

How much reparations do we owe them
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>>67971742
Niggers received a huge upgrade in quality of life, they got to live in a houses with advanced technology and agriculture, and they were under the rule of white people with laws instead of eachother. In return they gave us nothing and occasional murder rampages.
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>>67971688
Jap warcrime denial is one of my favourite /int/ memes.
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>>67971644
This guy.
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>>67971772
>Niggers received a huge upgrade in quality of life, they got to live in a houses with advanced technology and agriculture, and they were under the rule of white people with laws instead of eachother.

Ok okay ok that's all good and all.

But what would have happened to Blacks if they stayed in Africa without the racist white man?
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>>67971692
hey i'm just saying

want mean hurtful words and controversial comments filtered so you never see them? want to have approval intravenously injected with a karma system that rewards stupid referential humor and meaningless comments like 'i love science'? want trigger warnings in case reading the content of a post could be so harmful to you that you might die? there's already a website for you and it isn't this one
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>>67971785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6g-Yj6c-Hg
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why americans buy nigger-built cars?
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>>67971803
The Black man created modern medicine

ur time is counting down white boi
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>>67971803
why is russian banter always the worst
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>>67971642

The Russians found black slaves in Alaska when they were exploring it
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>>67971792
nothing
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>>67971683
I disagreed with his points and provided valid reasoning. Also, there's a containment board made especially for his ideologies, I simply guided him to the right destination.
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find white.. oh theres none
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>>67971802
All these opinions, fuck this is taking so long. At what point does this weeb start debunking shit?
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>>67971861
see
>>67971799
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>>67971874
Be patient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4T5U4zTbJ8
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>>67971830
>banter
because its not banter, silly albino nigger
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>>67971200
1. lots of moeny from trade with east, banking, and loot from the new world
2. industrialization
3. exchange of ideas and technology

slaves have nothing to do with it, in fact slaves would have hindered the industrial revolution
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>>67971909
Just tell me at what point in the videos and I'll watch them. I'm not sitting through some dickhead's take on things, I want the facts. I'm not saying he doesn't have them or can't support what he says, I just want to cut the shit.
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>>67971943
That's the only way it comes cunt. Why don't you download the video and speed it up 5x.
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>>67971980
Nah, I really can't be bothered for something I have zero investment in. I'm just killing time for a little bit before I head out.
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>>67971788
there was slavery in Murrika way before the Brit came
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>>67971830
Slav mentality
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>>67971911
>>67971803
>>67971829
Is this autism?
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>>67971200
Slavery was used across the entire world. Including in "China", also this "China" and "Germany" you speak of were not these images. If you just mean the land they encapsulate now, then you're still completely wrong.
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>>67971358
>We wuz empers 'n shit
Pisshairs don't get to steal Rome's achievements.
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>>67971200

Superior brains.
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>>67971248
Yes, pretty much everyone practiced slavery throughout the millenia, but the way the Anglos, the Dutch and some other did it was disgusting and criminal.
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>>67976834

Lol why? It wasn't any better during classical times.
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>>67976849
Ancient slaves were treated better than American plantation slaves though. They had the possibility to buy their freedom and not all of them worked to death in salt mines. Some (especially Greek ones enslaved by Romans) ended up working as effectively private tutors or engineers. The modern image we have of slavery mostly comes from plantation slavery anachronistically slapped on ancient slavery.
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>>67976888
Yeah, they rebelled repeatedly because of how nice they were treated, because all of them had the education of a few select slaves owned by philosophers and mathematicians.
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>>67971200
That is the shittiest labeled pic ever. Anyone with half a brain can figure it out, sure, but why would you put the labels there in the first place?
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>>67976920
>nice
Except I never said that, you fucking gypsy. I said they were treated better than American plantation slaves, which isn't exactly a high bar.
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Jesus
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>>67976888

Depends what kind slave, slaves working in mines like Laurion mines had very short life expectancy.

Also abuse was common, including sexual abuse.
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>>67971200

real answer: culture
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>>67976935
Getting castrated sure is being treated better.
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>>67971650

>muh jews
>muh niggers
>muh infograph

fuck off /pol/
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>>67971358
Rome is not in Germany.
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>>67971358
In 200 BC, barely washed savages.
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>>67977038

Those were Scipio times, he wasn't exactly a barely washed savage.
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>>67977038
that's not true
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>>67977053
>>67977059
To China yes. White pigs never catched up.
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>>67977059
Honestly speaking how do you feel about millions upon millions of people trying to steal your ancestor achievements as their own?
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>>67977065

Means little, you know nothing about both civilisations.
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>>67971200
Fuck off cuck.
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>>67971200
>How did Whites catch up and surpass the rest of the world?
an era of stability due to the inter-connectivity of the greco-persian trade allowed wealth to flow into the eastern Mediterranean
this allowed for certain concentrated regions of trade to form city states, and from there came public institutions, centralized and bureaucratic governments, etc
the phoenicians ended up leaving the levant, travelling across to north africa and spain to further push trade westward in the mediterranian and bring wealth to the west mediterranian
and then rome, then no more rome, then franks, then hre and large centralized kingdoms, then nation states and then present day
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>>67977065
>

>>67977078
It is not stealing. Their civilization has their roots on them. They are kinda like their own ancestors as well.
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>>67977104
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>>67977118
and it is not only that they have roots on them, based on those achievements they accomplished their own, which are as great and greater
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>>67977143

Strangely I don't see many whites fleeing to Africa for benefits.

That's probably due to the fact it's a copper age ultraviolent backwater where white colonisation is the only source of the very little civilisation they have.
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>>67971200
If you want a serious ancestor:
>quarter of a millenia ago europe is ripping itself apart from constant inwars
>mughals, ottomans and savavids reign supreme
>Ottoman empire blocking European access to the Indian and Chinese trade (sea borne and overland respectively) pushing the Europeans to find alternative routes thus kickstarting the age of exploration
>1600 things start to change rapidly for Europe as the spanish conquer latin america
>mughals decline and the brits take over 250 years ago finally cementing euro dominance

It's important to remember that these things change as often as the course of a river. In half a century Latin America may be ruling the world for some reason. Who knows.
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>>67977221
>>quarter of a millenia ago europe is ripping itself apart from constant inwars
Whoops. I meant HALF a century.
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>>67977118
>It is not stealing. Their civilization has their roots on them.
You literally gave them civilization. They're Africa and you're Europe. Be proud of it mang.
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>>67977221

Throughout history many cultures have gone through golden ages that last 100-200 years

Europe is the only exception
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>>67971290
>Large scale slavery where they literally repopulated slaves onto another continent for labor... pretty sure only Europeans did that
it's strange cuz there are no slave decendants here.
You're talking about america you stupid tumblrina
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>>67971200
Culture of smart, individualistic, hard working.
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>>67971200
Silk road, divided and competing realms, and the rebirth of classical thought propelled Europe to the seas while Asia reverted to an extremely conservative isolated state.
Slavery was only an effective tool for economic growth in the colonies.
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>>67977279
?
I'd say our Golden Age is long dead. The rest of the world is industrializing. In a few decades we'll finally see some real change in the world.

Of course whether you agree this is a good thing depends if you're a humanist or Europeanist desu.
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>>67977279
Europe superiority started around 1750-1800.
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>>67977221
>ancestor:
* And I meant answer...
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>>67971200
Japan caught up China in the 9th century, and stop to send students to China in 894.
After that, Japan began to go on our own way.
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>>67977330
Holy shit what did I write. I mean
"You can be shocked only if you think that /pol/ is intelligent board."
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>>67977403
t.netouyo
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>>67971290
That was in America though, and in the 1500s Europeans were pretty much more advanced than the rest of the world already.
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>>67977452
>and in the 1500s Europeans were pretty much more advanced than the rest of the world already.
That's why you lost half your land to Turks.
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>>67977463
LEAVE SOUTHERN EUROPE ALONE. THEY'VE SUFFERED FAR TOO MUCH ALREADY!
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Great China is the Song Dynasty and before.

The Great Wall was a nation border for Han-Chinese.
The Mongol empire and Qinq Dynasty came from the outside of the wall.
They were foreign government for Han-Chinese and oppressed Han-Chinese.
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>>67977463

Turks have gotten constantly BTFO since they reach Vienna.

Yet that started before at Lepanto, they could destroy eastern european kingdoms, but Turks have gotten constantly BTFO since they besieged Vienna (and failed to take it).
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>>67977537
>but Turks have gotten constantly BTFO since they besieged Vienna (and failed to take it).
Does it refute his point of Southern Europe being the Ottoman's bitch for 500 years? They're equally as useless as niggers.

>>67977530
Where did the Qing dynasty come from?
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>>67977463
Ottomans were on the same level as Europe though, after all they occupied Byzantine
Also they had 10 times the area and resources. Not to mention the peasant rebellion devastating the country before the turk invasion, plus power vacuum after the death of the king and the civil-warish situation with nobles and the Habsburgs fighting for the throne didn't help the cause either.
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>>67977279
The only exception is that we united the world culturally and technologically and developed modern institutions EVERYONE uses and follows as well as the biggest technological leap in human history I know of.

That is the big western achievement that nobody can ever replicate.

If anything could rival it, it is the establishment on working and self sustaining colonies on other planets.
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>>67977559
>Does it refute his point of Southern Europe being the Ottoman's bitch for 500 years? They're equally as useless as niggers.

Balkans have been.
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>>67977573
People forget that the big mosque in the temple mound in israel or the one in damascus were built by christian architects.

What made Islam and the Turks great was that they were willing to learn from the people they conquered and used them.

My ancestors just shat on rome, in comparison.

I believe the arabic tribes just were mroe accustomed to high civilisation as they so long lived close to it (sumer,babylon,egypt etc etc etc).

Also, does anybody know what turks contributed to the sciences except military music?

I tried to find some stuff that was not done by greeks or armenians, but it seems to me that ottomans/turks were mostly good at fucking shit up and thats it.
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>>67977575
>That is the big western achievement that nobody can ever replicate.
>If anything could rival it,
What if a nuclear apocolypse happened and the world in general got sent back into the stone age and our knowledge was lost or destroyed :^)
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>>67971661
becuase we are actively being destroyed by our media and our "intellectuals". Any discourse in the west today will be infected with our past "crimes" to excuse the flooding of our countries with illiterate baboons
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>>67977622

Arabic tribes were nomadic plunderers.

>Also, does anybody know what turks contributed to the sciences except military music?

Nothing.
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>>67977622
>Also, does anybody know what turks contributed to the sciences except military music?
Ottoman Indians did a lot iirc. But

>What made Islam and the Turks great was that they were willing to learn from the people they conquered and used them.
>but it seems to me that ottomans/turks were mostly good at fucking shit up and thats it.
Contradiction?
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>>67977629
Well, that would be shit I guess.

But I refuse to worry about that to much, similar to the earth getting hit by a big ass meteor.
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>>67977631

WTH can be Sweden's crimes by the way. Your country colonised none beside Finland and it stayed out of the two world wars, what can they reproach to Swedes?
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>>67977559
Qing came from Manchuria

Therefore Japan supported the founding nation of Manchu before WW2.
Real reason for Japan was that Japan wanted to make Manchuria as a buffer area against Russia and China.
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>>67977652
Shit I meant Mughal Indians. Not Ottoman wtf.
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>>67977652
Not really, my argument is that they supported big communities of educated ethnic and/or religious minorities that were unproportional prominent in the cultural and scientific and even military/administrative elite.

Please convince me by providing turkish achievements, as I asked.

>No worries janissars count as turkish as they were never able to pull a mamluk..
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>>67977708
I do not know to much about the Mughals, what cool stuff did they do beside being muslim indians?

I do know one of their Sultans founded his own wierd religion.
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>>67977737
>Please convince me by providing turkish achievements, as I asked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

>>67977759
>what cool stuff did they do beside being muslim indians?
It started off as """Central Asian""" (Afghani's are genetically a mix between Persians, Asians and Indians tho) but turned into an Indian empire later.

And idk too much about this myself, All I know is stuff I asked from poo-in-loo's which is
-they invented the first use of the gunpowder in cannons
- rebooming the Indian economy to become the first in the world (it became become second place after 1000 AD and they had a constant rivalry with the Chinese)
-and religious tolerance

That's all I know.
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>>67977674

White guilt pushing.
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>>67977909
A lot of this is very interesting but that the article mentions that big gun that was used to conquer constantinopel even though it was made by a hungarian is interesting.

But I guess thats why the murricans invented atomic bombs as well, even though most scientists were foreigners.
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>>67971570
>Also, the Christian Brits were the first ones to bring slavery to America,


????
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>>67978033
People do not care about truth, it seems.
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So, which one is which?
This image is kind of shit.
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>>67971200
Short answer: capitalism

Long answer: The Great Divergence (look it up on Wikipedia) happened ~1500 AD and likely happened in response to the plagues that had recently ravaged Europe. The combination of a diminished labor force and relatively poor farming conditions lead to increased wages for individual workers along with increased technological innovation to make farming more economical. The decentralization of capital in European economies lead to booming mercantile and later industrial capitalist systems that innovated at an exponential rate. This went hand in hand with the increasing innovation in agriculture that made feeding an ever-growing population of workers a reality. Basically, the west had the right conditions to create a feedback loop of constant innovation that simply didn't exist elsewhere in the world.
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>>67976834
All slavery is inherently disgusting and criminal.

We should be mindful of transgressions of our ancestors, but if we paint other peoples as unrealistically blameless, we're doing ourselves and our ancestors a great disservice.
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>>67976834
There was moderation all those forms of slavery until 1800.
Then shit got modern, and the extreme mass production was suddenly competing against malnourished Slaves in a economy where tools was improving.
Once Antibiotica and medicine got "reasonably" good, extreme work conditions could be a thing, which was previously impossible.

>>67971290
Pretty sure The Mongols did that.
The Mesoamerican tribes surely did it North to South and opposite.
Romans did it(empire setting on edge of 3 continents), and so did the Ottomans.
Pretty sure the Vikings did it as well, even if they failed their settlement.

Moving labor from continent to another is just a sign of economic size, and nothing more. If you try to make it into more than that, you failed to look at the prior examples.
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>>67981619
This is correct. Slavery was dying in the US until Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin.
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>>67971200

>“The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”


― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

Thank me later.
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>>67971458
>Who sold the Slaves?
Africans. Wait, you thought the Portuguese had the manpower to go into inland Africa, which is riddled with foreign diseases to them(malaria, its prophylaxis wasn't properly known until the nineteenth century), and forcibly enslave hundreds of thousands of people back in 1500? Yuros built trade posts along the coast at best.

African tribes squabbled each other and sold the losers to euros, I think some specialised on that
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>>67971607
Slavery is good when you need shit tools and 20-50 people to build a road, or to plant/harvest/maintain a field.
Slavery is bad once the road building tools is good, and you only need 3-10 people to do the same, faster.
Its especially true in Agriculture, foresting, fishing, line work, etc.

Heck, you started seeing reduction in enslaved peasants as early as 1600, because metallurgy improvements meant sturdier tools, and God Potato improved life expectancy enough to reduce mortality.
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>>67981777
Jokes on you, allready read it.
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>>67977221
>It's important to remember that these things change as often as the course of a river.
Only in local scale.
What made Euro dominance into what it was, was the fact they used Modern technological improvement to go from shitty Trade Posts around Africa, to literally taking over the world.
And global, split between several empires? That lasts a lot longer.

Meanwhile each region has borders that is barely stable, constant warfare of some kind, and a lot of things. Its true that nothing in the world is stable.
Except for globally.
And that might be why the achivement of European peace might last, because its not France or Englands peace, but the entire continent(except Russia and the Ottoman regions)
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>>67971200
They broke into Africa and stole all their science and achievements.
Which incidentally also left Africans with nothing.
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>>67977452
1500s? No.
1600s? No.
1700s? Only towards the end of it.
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>>67971200
Rome civilized "white" and then moors recivilized them after the dark ages
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>>67978711
The Great Divergence is at the least a nice collection page on Wikipedia.
A collection page of WHY Britain/France/Spain and the surrounding nations did go trough The Industrial revolution instead of just skimming the technological advantages without proper appliance.
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>>67971200
Only because house societies civilized the rest of Europe
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>>67977622
>My ancestors just shat on rome, in comparison.
Not really. Ostrogothic and Visgothic and Vandal rule wasn't any worse than the roman rule at the time. What really happened was that the ERE (When it really was the eastern roman empire) tried to reconquer Rome from the germans but ended up destroying a lot more, depopulating areas and bringing the precursor of the Black Plague.
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>>67982501

Dark ages are a myth.
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>>67982610
Hm, cool.
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>>67971200
>Mongols sack Asia and Eastern Europe
>Western Europe becomes the world's preeminent power

Not the only factor, but it definitely helped. The Mongol habit of destroying cities entirely, as opposed to pillaging and occupying them, meant centuries (if not millenia) of progress was lost in a good chunk of the civilised world. Western Europe ended up on top by default.
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>>67982689
The greeks weren't sacked by Mongols either, the Turks did that for them.

>Aren't they mongol-ish?

Also, they didnt get the japanese either and all those island people down south and at the coast..right?
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>>67971200
I think its less about us catching up and more about certain parts of the world stagnating like hell. I mean look at the Arabs and Chinese. They turned from being incredibly civilized and culturally advanced into complete utter shitholes.
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>>67981777
>its superiority in applying organized violence

Sounds like a superior idea to me
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>>67982922

They didn't turn into that, they simply never evolved.
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>>67982930
Well, you were definetly one of the most tricksiest.

That won you the cup against other europeans, being perfidious and such.
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>>67982922
They didn't necessarily turn into shitholes. Japan stayed much the same for hundreds of years (unfortunately for them, the rest of the world kept right on advancing).
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>>67983105
The Japanese are different though. In a lot of fields they are more advanced than we are. Chinese and Arabs on the other hand...
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>>67983160
Modern China is unparalleled when it comes to stealing designs from other countries. How they went from the Tang & Song dynasties to the present day is beyond me.
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>>67983338
Communism
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>>67971200
everything in america is made out of cotton and tobacco
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>>67971200
Germans were always terrible
Here's what actual white people looked like in 200bc, now shut up
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>>67983626

>those clothes
>fail
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>>67971200
How did homo end cromagnon?
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>>67982689
Mongols was pretty based.
If you can't rebuild, why where you worthy to carry on the legacy?
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>>67971290
Gotta love American cuckolding ignorance.
All humans are shitheads regardless race or skin color, arabs and africans loved and still love slavery.
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>>67971650
>tfw sold my children into slavery for the lulz


>tfw /pol/tards actually believe this drivel because of their confirmation bias but can't tolerate a single negative stereotype about whites
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>>67971799
The same applies to /pol/, if you go against their dogma they immediately respond with ad hominem in droves to 'unsubstantiate your claims' (cuck!, achmed!, commie!)

Both are echochambers, none are impartial or enlightened
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>>67983654
Are you aware that the pantheon still exists and that people were using it at time the painter painted it?
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>>67984208

At the time the painter painted it, it wasn't 200BC anymore. BTW the Pantheon has been built around 100 AD
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>>67971200
>How did Whites catch up and surpass the rest of the world?
The short answer is Industrial revolution.
My favorite answer is beer and wine. The only thing that white people had different from other peoples was the taste for fermented beverages (yes, other people had their own fermented beverages, but was not hide spread). Without it, no city could maintain the huge population without absurds outbreak of cholera and other diseases that come from poisoned water.
Without a huge amount of people in a few cities, there was no need for industrial revolution. Why peasants need tractors if the workforce is cheap and everyone produce their own grains?
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>>67984373
My favourite answer is the perfect cup of Tea.
Brits fucked over China with opium because they had the monopoly over Tea, the British colonised India so they could grow Tea for them and then they brought slaves to America because some Brits like sugar in their tea.
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>>67984621
Tea didn't help them discover the world Beer did it.
Today you can store water in inox containers for months, but back in the glorious days, you could store water just for a few days. The solution was simples.
Ferment beer while traveling. Beer can be stored for 1 year after being fermented!
This is the only reason why Muslims did not reach the Americas. The did circumnavigate the entire Africa way before any European dream about it. But they could not keep going west due the limitation of potable water!
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>>67983626
>parthenon
>200 bc
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>>67984319
is it that hard to understand that the people from the 18th century that were using the pantheon in the 18th century were painted wearing clothes from the 18th century by this painter of the 18th century (Giovanni Paolo Panini)?
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>>67984807
Maybe the painter had no idea of what people dress back in the antique grece.
Could not blame him. All greek people in statues are naked...
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>>67984873
It's the Roman Pantheon, not the Greek one. Plus I doubt an artist wouldn't know how they dressed, it's not like they lack references.

He just painted the people from his own era just as they were using the building in his own era, simple as that. The building has always been in use.
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>>67985314
make sense to me.
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