fuck this shiiiieeeeeeeeeet

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>>67942449
Nope, check any survey, our countrymates are cucks.

funny innit

>C*stellanos complaining about their nation's freedom

Gib independence nao

>>67942449
Sure lad. And what will you do after you're free? Join the African Union?

>>67942821
mercoSur or NAFTA

>>67942878
Brilliant idea. That will certainly help turn your economy around in a way EU would never allow you.

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Iberian Union when?

>>67943021
Never, one Extremadura is enough, we don't need their retarded twin.

>gets access to unlimited opportunities, free market, funds, etc from said union thanks to richer countries
>owes a shitton of money to said richer countries
>they're the only reason his country is still viable

>thinks leaving is a better option for his shit country
you're dumb

>>67943254
Nigga, we were allowed to join the EU to provide cheap veggies to the germs. That's all. Just if our stupid gypsies emigrated en masse as the romanians did...

We don't want to "be free" because we are already free, shithead. You anti-EU people are as pathetic as secessionists, but on a bigger scale. Fortunately, quitting the € isn't as easy as quitting the EU.

Does anybody actually have a reason to be against EU, that's actually structural rather than with the people currently in power?
I mean besides the euro which is flawed(with the current level of integration).

>>67943374
Dunno, the tons of bulgarian criminals that came freely?

>>67943346
>we were allowed to join the EU to provide cheap veggies to the germs

This is the kind of stuff that anti-EU "intellectuals" spew all the time.

Germany can buy our stuff without us being in the EU at all.

>>67943346
i wish our gypsies migrate there...fuck germs lad hahahha

>>67943346
germany could buy your stuff cheaper without you being in the eu
they allowed you and me into the eu because they were actually nice

>>67943539
they do right now

>>67943502
>Germany can buy our stuff without us being in the EU at all.

Actually the EU (Germany) signed a deal with Morocco so they don't need us anymore.

>>67943547
>they were actually nice

This is what cucks believe.

>>67943565
Source?

>>67943361
we are not free, you stupid guiri..i don't want to see Spain like a german colony for north cuks holidays

>>67943608
>gives you free moneys
>THEY SO EVIL YOU FUCKING KEK
ok
nice buzzword btw

>>67943625
>people spend holidays in your country
>this is an insult for some reason
not sure if stupid or troll

>>67943647
>gives you free moneys

This is what cucks believe.

>>67943647

Having a tourism-based economy is a special form of hell that all countries should seek to avoid.

>>67943672
have fun leaving then paying your debt with no way to assure your position within the EU
good job retard

>>67943625
>i don't want to see Spain like a german colony

We are not a "colony". This is the same bullshit that vatalonian/basque stupid secessionists say. If you think you are "colonized" by someone you are a dumbass.

> for north cuks holidays
We have been a tourist resort for decades before joining to the EU. Thank Franco for that.

>>67943647
I usually don't reply to moortuguese because most of you are mentally challenged and it's imposible to have a conversation with you but it's not a coincidence that the spanish areas with most tourisim are also especially shitty. So use your moorish brain cells for once and figure out why spanish people dislike being a cheap shithole for chavs and kevins.

>>67942878
>NAFTA
Yeah, no future problems for NAFTA in sight...

>>67943691
spain is far from a tourism based economy but ok

>>67943747
because they are shitholes with nothing better to offer retard

>>67942878
>mercosul
lmao

>>67943706
>We have been a tourist resort for decades before joining to the EU. Thank Franco for that.
Spanish GDP in Industry around 1970 was 30% , now 14%.THANKS MATE!!!

you can see that in wikipedia

>>67943819
>because they are shitholes with nothing better to offer retard

Well, your monkey brain almost got it. Tourism is cancer and not only it doesn't make any region rich but also destroys the coast and the environment.

>>67943819
>spain is far from a tourism based economy but ok
sadly no

>>67943868
depends on how you do it. also since when is tourism only beach-based? you can have interior tourism

>>67943896
then get your shit together retard. you people keep voting for the same idiots. germans keep tossing you money but you put it to no good use. and you tell me you actually think you'd be better off without them. lmao

>>67943858
Also the purchasing power decreased since Franco died and joining the euro was the last nail in the coffin. It fueled the massive real estate bubble that destroyed Spain. Where did that money come from? Yeah, from Germoney and now germans are giving us the money to turn the private debt into public. They even forced us to change the Constitution to appease Mama Merkel.

>>67943901
stop this shit, nobody wants to be a tourist shithole, especially in Spain.

i

>>67943974
you can have tourism without being the only thing you do, you know this right?

>>67943901
>you can have interior tourism

Come on, for a good reason everybody in Portugal lives next to the coast. They come to Spain for two things: beach and cheap beer. That's all. If they wanted cultural tourism they would go to France or Italy.

>>67943997
why do you defend stupid germans? are you idiot?they are fucking our countries you tuga nigger

>>67943997
>you know this right?

And you know our politicians never ever have planned anything in advance. As we say: pan para hoy y hambre para mañana.

>>67944009
everybody in portugal lives on the coast because for centuries that's where the money came from. people who lived in the interior just migrated there to stop being poorfags. if both portugal and spain invested in interior tourism (doesn't have to be cultural, can be just rural or landscape based), we would be better. but tourism isn't really a big money-maker anyway so who cares really. but honestly i prefer the interior of spain to the interior of france anyday

>>67944060
>why do you defend rich tourists?
because i like visiting spain, fuck you

>>67944067
our politicians are shit too. i know this very well

>>67943858
And your point is? Do you have something against a service based economy?

Do you think that not joining the EU would have changed the fact that the breakdown of the Soviet Union incorporated millions of very cheap workers to the western markets, which made Spain uncompetitive?

>>67943957
>It fueled the massive real estate bubble that destroyed Spain

People could have used all that money for investment in hi tech companies, but instead they decided to get mortgages. Why should germany be blamed for that? Again, this is the same kind of thinking that stupid catalonian/basque secessionists use, just substitute Madrid with Germany/UE.

>>67944085
who cares about tourism? tourism + agriculture sector = poverty and germans know that, they fucked our industry in 1980s

>>67944118
you are idiot mate, your country is poor the same thing with Spain and you dont want to change that.


nigger tier mind

>>67944120
>People could have used all that money for investment in hi tech companies

They could, but most people are idiots and the banks back then didn't even bother if you were a waiter with a three months contract.

>>67944141
tourism and agriculture aren't spain's main exports, i don't know why you keep insisting on this so much

>>67944189
>let's leave this union where people give us money even when we owe them tons
>yeah we'll be better off
please explain how an economy away from the EU would fixe spain

>>67944234
>>67944201
keep poor, portu bro....apparently you want to be a puppet for germans

>>67944301
good reply, you sure fixed all of spain's problems

I hate European Union!!! Go out of that shit soon!
And of course, we have to leave NATO soon too!!!

>>67948076
dude, the uk is stronger than spain and they took a toll from leaving the eu, what do you think would happen to us

we'd become a poor country for real, right now we're "poor"

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>>67942449
soon

>>67943625
>i don't want to see Spain like a german colony
We are helping you mates and I'm happy to do so. Spain is one of the countries which I generously respect. In what sense are you a German colony?

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Hmmmmmm

>>67948872

>Fixit

aah sounds so nice.

>>67948872
>PEXIT
sounds so stupid

>>67949300
>leaving the other countries with low unemployment out (Czech, Austria)

>>67949157
in the sense that he is gay and wants your germanic dick buried deep inside his ass

>>67949409
Meme countries.

>>67948872
this -xit shit has gone too far

>>67949633
It was just a meme until you made it real

>>67949686
I'm so sorry, I guess we just live in the meme era now so everything has to be given a mongoloid twitter name no matter how serious it is.

>>67942449

>we

There's no way someone other than a cybervoluntario or a nigel is behind this post.

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>>67942487
don't say that

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>>67951236

It's happening!

>>67942878
>Nuestro norte es el Sur

what the fuck does that even mean

>B-but you get so much money
Speaking as someone from the country in the UK that receives the most funding from the EU (Wales) this means nothing. The EU have done absolutely nothing for my area so I couldn't give a toss if the EU built another fountain or stadium down south. The amount of money that's wasted by the EU is outrageous.

>>67951236

Literally no party in the Spanish congress is anti-european.

And considering the massive clusterfuck of parties that is the Spanish Congress that is quite a statement.

>>67952600
You say that Congress is a clusterfuck? You should see the catalan parliament.

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>>67942449
join us

>>67951489
The South is our guidance. It's a pun.

>>67953117

Kek.

Possibly the only thing in this world that would have Podemos, the Socialists, Ciudadanos and Peperos coming together is a rough facefucking gangbang party of God-Emperor Farage and the Cons for hours and hours.

Glass England desu.

>>67951236
why do people hate the eu? i can understand not liking it but comparing it to a colonial power is so stupid

>>67951864
>The EU have done absolutely nothing for my area
it's not their responsibility anyway

>>67943706
Tbf you are getting colonised by old brits

There are like 1 million Brits in Spain now it's ridiculous

>>67954281
Take a moment to study how the european parliament and economy operates and you'll know

>>67957920
What's wrong with eu-parliament smartass?

>>67951236
>72% favorable
wew