American nationality

>>67694350
I consider regional and state identity to be the most important.

>>67695603
This, although I live in the most relevant area of the country, so people know what I'm talking about.

>>67694350
National identity is all that matters. States are pretty much just bureaucratic administrative subdivisions. Only people from really poor, shitty areas care about their state, because they have nothing else to be proud of.

Before the election it was American, but now it's Californian first

>>67695931
This

>>67694350
I might be proud of my state if it were more famous. No famous girl goes "Oooooh you're from Illinois? That's so exotic and sexy" like they do with Texas.

>>67696128
For me Viriginia, Kentucky, and Texas are the coolest ones. You should just lie.

>>67694350
none of your damn business.

>>67696791
California is objectecly the best state in the union. North Dakota is a close second.

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I've lived all over the midwest and have family on both coasts. That's the beauty of such a large and free country - we get just get up and move any time we feel like it. Sometimes quite often.

I'm American.

>>67695931
You could say that about nations too.
Only poor people care about countries or culture. The rich are only interested in preserving their moolah.

>>67696864
California is shite.

>>67696890
And also because your home got seized by the bankers who got a bailout from the Congress

Such is life in freedomland

>>67698617
10/10 post hahahaa LOL

>>67696791
>Kentucky

What exactly do you find cool about this state?

>>67694350
American first and foremost. Everything else is secondary to be honest. If you are an American and you are a citizen then I'd fight to protect you. Having been in the military you learn that racial, social and economic differences before don't mean jack shit when you're busting your ass and working to a common goal.

Point in case I worked with a guy whose dad was a KKK grand dragon and another guy who was a Gangstas disciple out of Chicago. After our first deployment everyone else got along. You learn real quick everyone is in it together and that when people get over those things they think divides them that we're a great country and unified. Too bad it seems to take something dangerous to drive people to get past shitty extremist rhetoric.

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>>67698617
>>67698814
This from Colgate max whiteness and Aquafresh the country.

>>67699216
Chicken.

>>67699216
That's where all the Scots moved to. They are muh kinsmen.

>>67700215

Colgate doesn't even understand that I'm 7 payments away from having the mortgage paid off. Seriously.

Haha! Joke's on you, Yurpoor.

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>>67694350
I consider myself to be an American first and foremost. Because of the people running my state it's hard to feel a close connection to it.

Pic related

Yes. I have french, Brit, German and finno-swed heritage so I'm pretty much stuck with American.

>>67702794
come home yellow man

Depends who asks.

>>67702858
Gibs passport pls

>>67694350
I am a red-blooded American. If states have more power than the federal government, what's the point of being a country? Just make the states their own countries.

I do enjoy state vs. state and regional banter though

>>67699886
I found exactly the opposite during my time in the service

>>67694350
American first and foremost. Way back when, when the individual states were a lot more independent, people identified primarily with their state because back then, like before the Civil War, a lot of them almost were sovereign countries. But the Civil War and the following Reconstruction Era brought unification and by 1880 basically everyone identified themselves as American above any state identity.

>>67703380
So the good guys really did lose in the civil war?

Childhood is calling yourself an American. Adulthood is realizing State Identity makes more sense.

>>67703509
Only if you live in a state worth identifying with.

If you are from west of the Mississippi you probably identify as American first. East of the Mississippi you probably identify as your state or region first.

This is often the same in Canada where the line is the Québec/Ontario border instead of the Mississippi River.

I'm a proud Marylander

Fuck the USA

>>67694350
A bunch of germans speaking english and worshipping jewish god. Nothing special, just americans.

>>67704456
My state exactly

>>67704456
>A bunch of Germans

Irish and British are the predominant ancestry of white Americans.

>>67704532
No, it isn't. Anglo is the largest single ancestry in every U.S. state, not German.

I'm just happy I'm not from California

>>67704617
Not true. The plurality of whites in my state are German

>>67703509
See >>67702785

>>67705337
No, they aren't

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>>67705601

>>67694350
Nobody save for maybe some edgy Texans think of they're belonging to their state versus the country. The end of the civil war marked the renewed sense of unity as a nation we've since enjoyed.

>>67705601
You know fuck all about American demographics.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas#Demographics
Germans are over 33℅ while Scots and English are not even 20℅.
A more extreme example is Minnesota where 70℅ of whites are German and scandi and not even 10℅ Anglo.

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>>67704537

in a lot of ways I want to claim my state because it feels too progressive to fit in with the rest of the country, but then sometimes I feel more american than the conservative parts because some "american values" are practiced more here than there.

>>67705893
That doesn't really prove him wrong.

>>67705601
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/largest-ethnic-groups-in-america-2013-8?client=safari

No it's German

>>67694350
In country I identify by state. Overseas I say Im from the United States

>>67703509

Hurr durr I'm a Hoosier
Hurr durr now I'm a Buckeye
Durr

Seriously, only people from meme states who never relocate do this. Most Americans move at some point in their life, often hundreds or thousands of miles.

I feel mid-Atlantic first. Everyone outside the tristate region are weirdos.

>>67694350
American first and foremost, as with the vast majority of Americans. If it weren't like that we'd probably have another Civil War tbqhwy

>>67696128
Chicago's a pretty good city, but Illinois as a state is the most average out of all of them.

>>67703509
No you're retarded. The only people who do this (within the US) are politically disenfranchised socialists or rednecks who like their extremist state's politics more than the nation's.

This is just as retarded as people who live and die by the nearest state universities football program, despite having never gone near the school.

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>>67694350
National identity comes first. Anyone who says otherwise is a traitor.

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>>67703509
You live in ONE country.

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>>67706758
not so fast snake

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>>67705890
>>67705893
>>67706087
Yeah, that's when you allow self-reporting, when you rely on genetics instead of "we wuz" you find the Anglos are the most common in every U.S. state.

According to one of the largest ever U.S. genetics studies, published January of 2015 in the American Journal of Human Genetics:
>"British/Irish ancestry is found in European Americans from all states at mean proportions of more than 20 percent, and represents a MAJORITY of ancestry in each state."

Of the 49 million Americans that claim German ancestry only about 16 million are of mostly Germanic background.

>>67705893
maps like this one, even when accurate are very misleading considering the amount of moving many american do over time. oftentimes shows only how things were once.

>>67694350
It think it depends on the state, I think southerners have much more regional identity. Things have become so globalized so regional identity is dying here

>>67694350
At this point everyone is so divided I'd say race and political affilation are more important.
I live in Texas, but I have much more in common with a white conservative from Wisconsin than I do some nigger democrat in the Houston inner city.
The "American" identity has essentially been destroyed by the msm and the left.
About half the people in this country i wouldn't mind sending to forced labor camps.

>>67696066
Every time I see a wildfire or earthquake engulfing your cesspool of a state i busy a fat nut

>>67699886
Completley full of shit.
I can't think if ONE person who joined the military and didn't leave more racist than when they joined. Especially if you got deployed to the middle east.

>identifying with a nationality
>identifying with a state

desu the only polity worth identifying with is a city, that only makes practical and logistic sense. every city is different, it's retarded to base one's identity off of artificial borders and group yourself with people who share different physical and cultural spaces

while within states and nations there can be vastly different physical spaces and modes of navigating those spaces, the inhabitants of a city share common experiences, cultural spaces (concert halls, plazas, restaurants, bars, etc.), and these concrete experiences bind people together more than arbitrarily drawn borders ever could hope to do

fuck nationalism

>>67696791
Aw thanks, I'm from ky. I only play that shit up on the west coast for college girls and cops everywhere. Works equally well on both.

>>67708813
>fuck nationalism
Yeah you're just afraid 1st world countries will start closing their borders before you're lazy spic ass can make it across

>>67694350
I've lived and worked on 3 continents.
Just about everyone I've spoken with at any length self-identified by their professional and marital / parental status, regardless of country.
Leads me to believe that where they live is not as important as what they do.

Sorry; not to dodge your question, but I just don't see the point.

>>67703130
>>67708786
I can think of several and I was even stationed at Bragg. Ethnic polarization isn't a thing in the 82nd, not so far as any of the infantry battalions are concerned and certainly not by my experience. Maybe you two just got hosed and that sucks.

>>67709093
>you're
>american education

there has never been a meme this close to reality

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as a new yorker I must make myself known in every state, country and planet
I'll stomp my timbs on mars even

>>67694350
If I am in another country than It's my nationality as an American, but if i am in the US than it is my state.

>>67694350
American first, regional identity second

I am African American yes

>>67694350
I think people really don't differ that much from state to state here. People really take state identity way too seriously.

>>67702631
There's some good local chicken, but I'd be wary of KFC. You should look up how they make their chicken.

>>67702720
That's fair. A lot of Scots settled in Appalachia.

Kentucky also has a LONDON.

>>67714752
>Kentucky also has a LONDON.
Dropped

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If you grew up in the heartland, you will always associate yourself with your region more.

State identity is only important when Americans ask each what state they're from.

>>67711555
I agree with you desu but he actually didn't use that wrong

>>67694350
American first, but if the federal government broke apart I wouldn't feel bad about looking to my state.
>>67696066
Don't you have a local business to loot in the name of peace and love?
Seriously though, if you can't admit that liberalism has a big problem with hugboxing, and dismissing of others then you're part of the problem with why Trump won.

>>67694350
I'm not a yank.

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>>67714919
>West Virginia
>Normal people

I identify with my country first.

My area is nice, but I've lived in other parts of the country.

>>67715409
then hes not talking to you pedro

>>67714919
This is true though.

>>67715409
They don't care if you're a northerner or southerner. They just call all Americans yanks.

>>67694350
I'm from Virginia, same as Robert E Lee, and feel the same way he did. I honestly don't actually care very much about the rest of the US or even like most other regions or states or peoples. I just like the constitution and the US style of government so that's why I like being a part of it.

>>67717263
How do you feel about the part that Virginia is a shell of its former self? The Virginia before the split was a really respectable state, but without the west you've deteriorated over time.

>>67717446
Why was Virginia split? Was it devious democrat tricks?

>>67717446
I doubt we would be that relevant even with them. Only reason anybody talks about us on a national level anymore is because we got YANKEE'd so badly that we're a swing state now.

Also every time I've interacted with one of them on here they were really butthurt at us for some reason. Like actual butthurt, not interstate muh college football team is better than yours banter.

>>67717706
Ignore the flag change, I'm on vacation and switched from mobile data to hotel wifi

>>67717747
I hope you get your ass kicked proper you fucking yank cunt

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>>67696864

>>67717678
Basically, we seceded, and they seceded from us because they wanted to stay with the union. It was all based on a bogus referendum pushed by Lincoln that tons of union soldiers from out of state stationed there were ordered to vote in by their officers.

>>67717678
the civil war

West Virginia stayed with the union

>>67702785
the people running your state literally brought it back from the dead you dumb fuck. Made it one of the strongest economies in America.

Maybe you should move your dumb and broke ass to texas where the rest of california rejects seem to be able to make a living.

>>67717797
I'm going to false flag a bad British post in another thread just because of you, buddy

>>67717678
Basically Virginia was ruled by a bunch of spoiled filthy rich planters making mad money off of slavery, which devalued the labor of poor white yeomen living in the western part of the state. So they seceded and decided to fight for the Union.

>>67694350
I am a Korean American. I don't really identify myself with Korea, the US, or the states I have been living (CA and FL). I just find wherever gives me best job/business opportunity and go there and live as a law abiding citizen who doesn't leech off of welfare. So far I like living in FL. Might as well move somewhere else for other opportunities.

>>67717811
yep and our economy is the 6th lagest in the world, who are you again?oh that's right, just a fly over.

you're existence is meaningless. please kys

>>67717932
>muh 6th largest economy
India is 7th largest, your point? That California is pretty much India tier?

American means political entity of Whites, if not then define what is American and why anything past the provincial level even matters.

>>67717960
the fact that california is the 6th largest and its a damn state, NOT A COUNTRY, speaks volumes of how well the california government has been running the show the last few years.

Again, who are you? whats your economy like?

you're literally a flyover, a nobody. If your state disappeared literally nothing would chage, probably relief the welfare system from trash in the midwest.

>>67717811
The Mexicans stole it from the natives in the first place. You can't steal something that was stolen from someone else. If you steal something, and then someone else steals it from you, you can't get all morally indignant over it. Any Mexican who unironically thinks California and Texas were "illegally, wrongfully stolen" from Mexico or that this is a terrible crime even remotely comparable with what we did to the native americans really should just go fuck themselves imo.

>>67718029
Mexicans never had a political entity larger than central mexico, everything else is land conquered, and even within the political entity there were multiple enemy nations that were essentially slaves.

I'm a Chinese-American guy in California and I'm pretty proud of my state. The rest of the country, especially the South, hates our guts and I don't really blame them. We have a different culture in California than the rest of the country for better or worse.

I grew up going to the skate park every day after school and went to the beach every weekend to surf. I like Mexican food almost as much as Chinese food and I say "dude" IRL way too much. Outside of Hawaii, it's hard to find a place that supports a similar lifestyle. I love living in California tbqhyf

>>67717446
What ruined Virginia was being hijacked by NOVA.

>>67718064
Agreed. So basically fuck La Raza and their whiny indignant pretend-victim bullshit.

>>67718008
>running the show
>economically in the red
>agriculture subsidized by the federal government
>supplied with water by other states
>supplied with power by other states
>prices so high that a peasant in buttfuck Indiana is relatively wealthier than you are

>>67717919
>Basically Virginia was ruled by a bunch of spoiled filthy rich planters making mad money off of slavery
ebul rich Virginian planters are why you're able to shitpost under a US flag on 4chan today while enjoying historically unprecedented freedom and luxury whether you're white black purple or magenta.

>>67718080
The liberal tumor that is NOVA shouldn't even be a part of Virginia, it should be just annexed by DC.

>>67718129
>happy to keep the fellow white man poor
And this is why nobody likes Cuckfederates.

>>67718008
California wouldn't be shit without the rest of the US.

>replying to obvious b8
I know im dumb

>>67717678
Fun fact - the Democratic Party used to be the party of poor white men before the 1960's.

The Democraps and Republican'ts switched bases but kept economic policies. So now the Democrats are the party of rich liberals and poor blacks who fuck over rich people (lol just kidding not really), and the Republicans are the party of rich conservatives and poor whites who fuck over poor people (which is about 75% of the GOP base).

This is why nobody should take American politics seriously.

>>67718129
What do rich people tainting our soil with niggers have to do with the white worker having his work done by a nigger?

>>67694350
I'm originally from Connecticut so American and then I consider myself a New Englander. I'm pretty much 100% Yankee by any definition.

>>67717865
>West Virginia stayed with the union
But not Virginia is blue and West Virginia is red. Wish you would make up your mind.

>>67718162
No, the South just had an aristocratic culture because that's what works down here (case in point: most of the South is shit now because it's gone). It's not like the malnourished potatoniggers you were hurling at us picked straight fresh off the boat from Europe had it any better.

>>67718185
Identity politics kinda fucked up both parties tbqh.

>>67718214
Red doesn't mean you're pro Confederate. In fact Republicans were the Unionists.

>>67718229
>malnourished potatoniggers
Most white southerners were and are malnourished potatoniggers, descended from Celtic hinterlands of England, Ireland and Scotland. Read "Cracker culture" from McWhiney.

>>67718214
There was a party swap during the Nixon era. The republicans were the north in the civil war.

>>67718133
I agree.

North Carolina seems to be resisting, but I fear it could also go the way of Virginia.

American, but I think my region is underrated and I feel a connection to the land here.

I care more about my state than the federal government kikes who wouldn't, then again I am from arguably the best state I think only hick states or shitholes like Missouri or new jersey care about American identity

>>67718368
Which region is that? I think the most underrated region is the midwest and the most overrated by far is the south, especially Dixie.

>>67718388
The Great Lakes.
Agree with Dixie being overrated.

>>67718410
I wouldn't say the Great Lakes Region is underrated.

It used to be the peak of US economic output. Hence "Rust Belt".

>>67718281
White Virginians are predominantly anglo and german, and I'm not interested in defending the entire South or the Confederacy. You were going on some tangent about how the West Virginians were being oppressed by lazy feudal overlords in the eastern half of the state and I was only pointing out that you are referring to figures like Patrick Henry, George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson when you say that.

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>>67718443
West Virginians are a mix.

Southern WV = agriculture + coal, mostly Celtic
Northern WV = industry, mostly German with some Italian and Polish admix

South as a whole isn't very Anglo though. Some of the aristocrat class were Anglo, but most white souterners were poorfags descend from Ulster Scots or Irish converts to protestantism. This is why the north is more industrious, analytical, frugal and hard working (Germanic traits), while the Celtic south is more agricultural, romantic, lazy and emotional (Celtic traits).

>>67718551
I'm aware of the huge impact of the Scots-Irish on southern culture. I was speaking only of Virginia where the influences tend to be more Anglo-Saxon.

>>67718667
Only on the upper class m8. Robert E Lee and Thomas Jefferson =/= average southerner.

>>67718677
or average Virginian for that matter

>>67718677
>>67718718
I think you are misunderstanding me, what I am saying is that there are literally more ethnically English people as a proportion of the population in Virginia than there are in other Southern states. Historically it was also far higher than it is now. I am not making some distinction between rich planters and working class people, I am speaking of the commonwealth's culture as a whole.

>>67694350
I consider myself to just be American since I've lived in every reigon and don't really fully identify with any of them. I could be at home just about anywhere in the states except Hawaii. I really want to move to Alaska though. I really wish Canada would just give us some of their tundra so I could go live up there. I love hostile wastelands but hate heat and love snow so I'd love to just live in the american equivalent of siberia.

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>>67696066
HAHAHAHHAA FUCK YOU

t. other Californian

>>67696864
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

California is actually shit. I hope we suceed so I can emigrate to AZ and we can cut off your water and build a wall around this fucking place.

>>67719004
m8 take your ADHD medication

None, I'm a social loser no matter where I go so I'm loyal to no one.

>>67708626
Quite true, actually. I'm a conservative stuck in a Democrat-Liberal zone. I get ticked off at liberals even more due to their low tolerance of conservatives. They hear someone is conservative and make some fucking face. Assholes, I've spent my whole fucking life dealing with you people and never complain.

>>67719976
and 'tolerance' is their entire supposed podium. sad, but funny

>>67694350
I consider my county and my local baseball team most important. I live in the Washington county. That noble name alone gives me an immense sense of pride and responsibility.

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WELL I'M A GOOD OLD YANKEE
NOW THAT'S JUST WHO I AM
FOR FUCKING ALL MY COUSINS
I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN
EIGHT-HUNDRED-THOUSAND REBKEKS
LAY ROTTING IN THE DUST
I GUESS THAT WHOLE "SECESSION" MEME
TURNED OUT TO BE A BUST

I identify most with those who call ourselves "Americans," as an ethnic designation. We're the leftovers from colonization but we don't have anywhere else to go. It's not like Britain will take us back.

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>>67717811
>>67718029
>>67718064
>>67718101

>>67694350
It wasn't just limited to Robert E. REE
In the colonial times people would've just said they're from Virginia or Maryland or whatever

>>67695603
This

>>67714919
Isn't that how everyone sees the country though

American first and foremost.

t. Northern Californian

>>67720614
Straya might take us. The wiggles and crododile hunter were part of the golden age.

>>67721603
*crocodile

>>6771767>>67717848
>>67717919
Ehhh the truth is more like the Baltimore & Ohio railroad THE east-west rail line for the north passed thru that weird eastern panhandle. Land grab to not completely fuck transportation, strategically crucial.

>>67714937
>before you're lazy spic ass can make it across
Yes he did.
>American Education.
Not even a meme at this point. Just reality.

>>67694350
Almost all of us consider ourselves to be American first. However, I feel that changing.