WTF i hate europe now

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>>67690423
Euros can't get most consonants right m8

>>67690423
We pronounce r as you do though.The RR is pronounced as Italian r

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>>67690545
>when you realise walloons only ever use the 'w' when saying the name of their region

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>>67690545
Continue posting interesting pronunciation maps

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>>67690796
I'll dump what I have, but I think I only have like 8 or 9 of them

>>67690545
we also have english "w", it's "ł" in polish

>>67690897
Barbosas, gypsies and t*rks got it

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>>67690923
I think these maps are just talking about what sounds the letters themselves actually represent, rather than the sounds themselves

>>67690897
Ah yes, the "united" state of Italy

>>67691057
gz.

>>67690545
>that feel when East Germanic

>>67690423
Currently learning Norwegian... so there's an accent where R is just like English?

>>67691016
The classical pronounciation of Latin guys who say Kikero for Cicero promote ugliness.

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This map seems a bit retarded to me

I don't know why the whole of the UK isn't orange, /h/ dropping is an irregular feature and not part of standard pronunciation

>>67691098
no

>>67691098
w-where do you think norway is exactly, anon?

>>67690690
Wallonia is litterly Old Dutch for land of foreigners.

>>67690423
Portuguese roll their Rs? They always sound like the french but a bit softer. Or maybe because most of them live in the blue area. It made me think desu.

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>>67691100
>Kikero
now that you mentioned romans did have fairly big noses..

>>67691258

There are blue parts in the southwest there.

Is that a different language?

>>67690980
Gheada mixed with the seseo sounds cool to be honest.

>>67691348
England is covered in green.

>>67691348
English /r/ is green, not purple

it's just scots and welsh people that roll their /r/

>>67690423
>Latin rolled r in France
Not anymore.

>>67690423
>90% of red
>having proper rolled r
Lmao

So, we don't have a X, Y, C or Q.. you learn something new every day.

>>67690897
Thank you friend

>>67691121
Probably foreign mongs thinking all Englishmen are Cockneys

>>67691439

Oh, I see. When it said neither rolled or flapped I thought it meant those speakers where non-rhotic, and I thought the blue (I must be colorblind) R was our "normal" one.

Whoops

>>67691553
nah those maps are certainly anglo made

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>>67690897
>j
>the correct sound is [j], as any logical person would expect
Really makes you think how some languages managed to get it wrong

>>67691324
Everybody speaks like in the blue area,the only ones who roll their R's are the alentejo people,this map is fucking bullshit.It's not like we can't roll our R's it's just that we don't use it

wtf i love europe now

tfw can't take a short bus/train and expose myself to a new language

>>67691799
Do you also make a distinction between 'r's in the middle of a sentence and the ones starting it?

>>67690980
>the Icelandic "g" is too complicated to summarise here
I'm curious now

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>>67691057
didn't think we were so different from danish and norwegian

Rolled R is the only R

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>>67690423
>bornholm (denmark) rolled r
>scania (sweden) guttural r

>>67691532
Well obviously it doesn't count loanwords, if it did all the maps would be massive clusterfucks

>>67692216
no idea about bornholm, but I would imagine Scania's pronunciation having to do with the fact that it was Danish until the late 17th century and not completely integrated into Sweden until 1720.

>>67690423
>the whole world has to speak this language now
I cringe every time

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Lmao we cucked the Frogs out of their R

>>67690545
Flanders uses the same w as we do.

Only niggers use the English w when speaking Dutch

>>67691532
Does this seriously surprise you? Have you only learned how to read yesterday?

>>67691121
>(h)onest
>(h)onour

>>67691532
Q and X are pretty uselss letters to be honest.

>>67690897
jajaja
(hahaha)
does portugal actually use a different J pronunciation than us ? i had no idea
i know the small grey corner in spain uses X instead of J for everything other than loanwords

>>67692734
(h)ello m80

>>67692579
I thought we got it from them? (And then sent it further north to the Danes and partially Norwegians)

>>67690980
You can have soft g in Danish, so we should be same color as Sweden here.

>>67690545
Actually, in some german words the "v" is pronounced like an "f".

>>67692579
Guttural R actually comes from France, more specifically from Paris, back when the court got tired of the endless rolled rs, so they started by completly skipping them and eventually adopted the guttural R in the end.
Now bow before your french masters.

>>67692015
whoever made these maps has no fucking clue

>>67691932
it has a hard g, soft g (like swedish) and a kind of breathy one similar to h.

>>67690423
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>>67690897
no wonder why we cant pronounce other languages and other people cant pronounce english for shit

can someone please explain how english people don't pronounce 'r' and give examples of when this happens

I still have no idea when we do it

for example in 'pronounce' the r is obvious

what the frick ??????

>>67693770
The real origin is probably unknown
I like the story where one French king/duke or whatever had a speech impairment and couldn't roll the "r", so everyone around him eventually followed suit as to not offend or to have a "noble" pronunciation, and it spreading from there

>>67692975
I always tought you said J's like Ruan and not Huan.
We say Juan like it should be pronounced

>>67692734
anglos do not know of these concepts

>>67690980
>The Dutch and Flemish ''g'' mentioned as the same sound
delet this

>>67693864
In the ending of words usually, like in "writer" for example. There's a term for it, can't remember what it's called though

>>67691283
>Wallonia
is that related to "gaul"

>>67693864
Car -> Cuh?

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>>67691229
I thought we were more similar to German
Neat

>>67694083
No, it's related to Wales.
Gaul probably comes from Latin.

>>67690980
mfw tuscany is france tier while rest of italy is romania tier

>>67694119
your more similar to cancer

>>67694243
>coming from literally Netherlands 2.0
:^)

>>67694093
Cah

except if you're from Manchester/Birmingham, then it's more like Ceeeh

>>67694278
>2.0
damn right we're an improvement over negerlands

>>67694381
>Languages sound just alike
The only thing you do better is having more snow than us

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>>67694381
not much though

>>67693770
Guttural R is also present in Inuktitut and Zhuang. It is no big deal unless you believe that Danes picked it up from the French and then taught it to Eskimos.

>>67694452
Kek, if the Danes are Netherlands 2.0, then they must be Sweden 14.0 or something

>>67694419
>>Languages sound just alike
sure if that malkes you feel better

>>67694452
sweden is unironically 0.1 beta version of denmark

>>67694278
>have 4 years of german lessons in school
>school trip to Amsterdam
>maybe I can understand some of what they say
>can understand the written language to some extent
>arrive in Amsterdam
>rrggggghhhhhhRRRHRGHRHGRGHHGHRRRRRRgrhghghggggggrrrrrRRRRR

>>67694523
Guess thing really were better in the past then

>>67690423
limburg purple ffs amateurs

>>67694527
>arrive in copenhagen
>rrrröRærååröråææååårrrRRRrröörööæææåårrr
Of course no one has to be as autistic as the finns when it comes to pronouncing words as they're written. But you've taken it in the complete opposite direction and just swallow half of the words.

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fixed

>>67694676
this oetz

>>67694527
> tf
> tp

Danish is language terrorism ffs. Luckily we have bokmålsnorsk to correct that mistake.

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>>67694816
oh wait...

it's still a bit more nuanced than this.

>>67694886
add to that the soft d and throat R

>>67694527
works in both ways, to an annoying extent. everything sounds very familiar, yet nothing is remotely understandable

I've this with Luxembourgish and Danish.

>>67694972
And the stod
And the retarded orthography
And swallowing half of the words

Btw the worst book I've read lately was written by a Danish author.

>>67694784
our written language is a zealandic curse

>>67694886
>> tf
>> tp
what?

>>67694972
>english /r/ in continental europe
u wot

>>67693864
Things like "bar" are just "baa"
But many dialects/accents here also drop the r in such situations, or the "r" just alters the preceding vowel

>>67692822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzAABMozs0

>>67690897
>fucking anglos always add DZ to my name.
Tbh, Jovan is just our version of John
>>67691121
The letter H is not native to Serbia proper, and was adopted from Herzegovinian dialects

Also, why are Bulgaria, Greece and the East Slavs not considered Europe by these maps?

>>67695452
Map is only about Latin letters

>>67695452
I guess because of the Cyrilic/Greek alphabet. But that wouldn't explain Serbia.

>>67690423
wtf i hate england now

>>67695244

believe it or not.

It used to be part of a small number of local fringe dialects, but it unfortunately became mainstream due to the Dutch media centre (i.e. where television is made) being right inside a town which uses the "english R".

The R only sounds like the english R at the end of a word, if it isn't followed up by a vowel.

Hoorn (Horn) sounds like Hoo (english R) N

Horen (to hear) sounds like Ho (Dutch R) en.

Rood sounds like (Dutch R) ood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNLhL6XbZ2w

>>67695504
Serbia uses both alphabets, both of which are the best alphabets in Europe.

>>67695496
>>67695504
The actual sound H wasn't present at all in the beginning of the 19th century. Hleb was called Leb (bread), but it was used in Montenegro as a sound.

>>67695567
GOOISE EWJ

>>67691016
>Hebridges and Wales coloured, Gaeltacht isn't
trigged tbqh

>>67695434
Very good video.

>>67695434
Make C always /k/ and remove k, like God intended.

>>67699654
Nah, this was actually the Latins being too stupid to import the Greek kappa for some reason, they only imported gamma for some reason which then (in the form of C) got to represent both /g/ and /k/, later on G was added for the /g/

They simply should have imported both, I mean they got it right with D/T and B/P as well

>>67695567
Echt een tragische ontwikkeling.

>>67700109
zeg dat wel

>>67691324
>>67691799
I've anecdotally measured this recently.

It's completely random, and not region-based. Both sounds are interchangeable, so people will just pick one for most words, but not even necessarily all.

My parents both roll their R's but I use the French one.

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>>67691229
Kek, we're always going against Spanish.