British class system

>>67522873
The working class no longer exist, they've been replaced by a dole scrounging underclass.

Thatcher, rather than replace the economies of the northern communities she ransacked, simply put them on a form of life support.

Corbyn will put the council estate wankers back to work.

Yank with a Wank father here...

I was considering moving to england and buying up cheap northern real estate single family houses and renting them out...

Will places like liverpool be shit holes forever, it seems like I can buy a cheap house for about 150,000 pounds and rent the shit out.

>>67522873
>I was talking to a group of Danish girls today
>girls

This information is not needed.

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>Corbyn will put the council estate wankers back to work.

a true leafpost.

>>67522980
You would have been better off buying up all the niggervilles in London 10 years ago - you would have had a huge return lad. In terms of up North, it's always been a shit house, and even in the 21st century shows no sign of improvement.

>>67523092
what did you mean by this?

I get all of my information of britain from downtown abbey and keeping up appearances and they've taught me that the entire british life revolves around class and that people with peerage are superhumans who are above us lowly mortals.

more like cuck system

i don't know much about that, but if it's hard for a talented kid born to a working class family to get higher education to join highly skilled workforce it would be a loss to the UK.

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>class system
Bourgeoisie wank, bring back caste system

>UK and India have class systems
really makes you thing

>>67522873
High class are the normans
Lower class are the anglo-saxon scum

This is why you need such a strong nanny state that bans forks due your lower class tendency to chimp out.

>>67522873
I think it is very strange that Britain still has this 19th century class structure, and I think it weakens your democracy

>>67522926
Corbyn will never be PM, he is not popular even among his own party.

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>>67524720
>he is not popular even among his own party

>>67524657
You think wrongly.

>>67524811
elaborate please

>>67523966
well the difference was that the violence on the left was state sanctioned and therefore "OK"

>>67524720
Corbyn has amazing support in the Labour Party. You're thinking, or rather not thinking, of the Parliamentary Labour Party.

>>67522926
Corbyn is a massive Paki-lover

>>67522980
>Falling for the English meme

Houses in Scotland are much cheaper and so is the cost of living. The best thing about it is we make more money that the English on average

>>67524866
The class system is not '19th century'; it has existed arguably since the Roman invasion, but certainly since the Norman invasion.

Democracy is unaffected by the class system. The plebs has as good a vote as the upper class.

>>67524939
alri, where in scotland should i move to? The big two or something else? glasgow has a subway which i like

>>67524939
> Scotland cheaper than northern England
Complete nonsense.

>>67524975
>The class system is not '19th century'; it has existed arguably since the Roman invasion, but certainly since the Norman invasion.
I don't think I would agree with this.
Pre industrial revolution, most people used to be peasants.
Its only after that event that the class structure changed to workers, middle class and upper class.
And I think for democracy, the society has to be as homogeneous as possible, and having three distinct classes is no help.

>>67525073
Nope.

The 'merchant class' has always existed too; first called 'villains', 'yeomen' or 'burghers', then evolved into the middle classes.

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>>67525210
>'merchant class'

>>67525210
sure, but they didn't have nearly as much influence as capitalists have since the industrial revolution.
And before that change, Aristocrates were the upper class

>>67525073
Different classes have no effect.

Britain has had the most stable government in the world despite the class system. Everyone knows their place in the hierarchy, and everyone mostly gets on with it.

>>67525474
>. Everyone knows their place in the hierarchy, and everyone mostly gets on with it.
Only if you are complacent, there is nothing stopping people from changing classes if you work hard enough.

>>67525544
True, but 99% of people don't.

>>67525474
>Everyone knows their place in the hierarchy, and everyone mostly gets on with it.
let me guess, you are upper middle class

>>67522873

continental Europe is seen as a very igualitarian middle class place, while the UK, while being seen as a very developed first world country, like Germany or Japan, is seen as almost as classist as a latin american third world country.

a place where the difference between social classes is huge, and even people from different social classes have different accents.

>>67525991
Accents tend to be regional rather than class based.

>>67525778
Not him but I'm working class and i can't really imagine what's it's like without a class system. Why's it such a big deal? Germany still has poor people that's we'd call "working class" and well-off people that we'd call "middle class". We just gave them names. It has no effect on your ability to move between the classes or make more money. Unless you're trying to crack into the upper classes

>>67526133
sure, germany has rich and poor people, but those people don't have a culture on their own.
They all belong to the same culture, and participate in cultural events like Oktoberfest, no matter if rich or poor

>>67526171
What makes you think the working and middle classes have different cultures and events? Only the upper class have their own cultures purely because the others cannot afford it.

>>67524159
India has a caste system, not a class system. Now clean my toilet

>>67524284
Tbh, this is mostly true. Working class generally have Anglo-Saxon names in my experience, Celts and Normans end up being the middle class, and then Normans are at the top

>>67526133
It does have a massive effect on the rest of your life, stop being an idiot

>>67527753
Explain how though?

>>67522873
>So my question is how is the UK's class system seen by the rest of the world? More specifically Europe.

you're massive cucks, easily distracted by kneejerk nationalism, the sun/daily mail/express/other cancer and football

you export neoliberalism everywhere and are now doind the chinks' bidding by destroying Europe's steel industry

>>67527804
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37987166

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>>67522926
>the working class no longer exist

Fuck off yank

>>67528097
Nothing to do with the class-system though. Labour is near worthless and people are living so much longer and aren't retiring anymore
No one is telling you "you can't buy this house because you're working-class"

>>67525991
>a place where the difference between social classes is huge, and even people from different social classes have different accents

Only in very particular wealthy areas.

Both working class and middle class kids go to state schooling and residental areas are neighboring, there really is not much cultural difference.

>>67522873

It was apparent to me when visiting, but the "working class" don't seem to ever work at all so it's very confusing.

Classes have changed, but it's still there.

>>67525544
>there is nothing stopping people from changing classes if you work hard enough.

except public school boys with special privileges,'connections' and mounting university debts

>>67528234
Like that shit does not exist for the wealthy worldwide.

>>67528209
>"working class" don't seem to work

Then that isn't the working class, it's the low/under class.

>>67528268
private schools, """"public"""" schools in Bong, barely exist here, the rich send their children to state schools

we barely have students debt here

only the connections thing is true

>>67522873
it's simple, in England:

upper class : Normans
middle class: Anglo-Saxons
lower class: Celts

>>67528371
So your billionaires send their kids to the same school as someone on benefits? I find that hard to believe.

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>>67528093
Nothing to do with the question asked, Geert. Now piss off back to your windmill

>>67528415
they send them to the same public school system, though many live in London so they don't have to pay taxes thank to non-dom status
>>67528425
i'm specifically adressing the english working class in my post

>>67528499
>they send them to the same public school system
So do they send them to the same schools or not? Will a billionaires kid be sat next to a postmans kid in class?

>>67528390
Not really. It's more like this

Nobility : Normans/Anglo-Saxons
Upper class: Normans
Middle class:Normans/Celts (Irish immigrants from the late 19th century and early 20th century)
Lower class: Anglo-Saxons

>>67522991
Could have just got rid of the whole first sentence desu. And the first 4 words of the second sentence.

>>67528415
couple of lads with multi millionaire parents were in my year at school 2bh

besides the prestige of eton etc. private schools are no better than most states

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>>67528617
WRONG

I went to a private school and a state school - Private is much, much better

>>67523145
It's true, in fact the real Great-Britain died when the lower classes got uppity and good, reliable servants were impossible to get anymore. That happened after WW II, along with the fall of the Empire.

The last real Brit was Sir Patrick Moore. He died a couple of years ago.

>>67528557
>Will a billionaires kid be sat next to a postmans kid in class?
that's entirely possible, a guy in my old school inherited 50 million euros from his grandmother

>>67528695
So it comes back to money and not class.

>>67528688
sure, you probably went to a shitty state school then

just saying ofsted do a good job in regulating free education to a high standard for the most part

>>67528617
Private schools are great in Ireland at the moment but the new law for catholic schools is going to turn that shit upside down.

>>67528832
>government making laws for the Catholic Church
Seperation of Church and State my fucking hole

>>67528569
No m8 the indigenous Celts (Britons) are still a majority, of course they've adopted Anglo-Saxon names during the early middle ages (5th-11th century). They're faces show that they're Celts. Think Onslow of Keeping up appearances.

That was what the class system was all about, to keep everyone in place. The middle class was the old upper class, the Anglo-Saxons. Middle class bourgeoisie has noticable West-Germanic/North-Sea-Germanic (=Frisian type) facial traits. Lower class has Celt faces, indistinguishable from Scots/Welsh/Irish.

>>67528733
?
My parents both have rather modest incomes

>>67528997
>Lower class has Celt faces, indistinguishable from Scots/Welsh/Irish.
What the fuck are you talking about? This is /pol/ tier shit.

>>67528832
What law? Google comes up with a load of different shite.

>Well blimey mister 'Olmes, you mean to say that 'e suffered 'alluni.. 'alloci... I mean 'e was seeing pink elephants?

>Yes inspector, and if you would inspect the residu on the floor, of course that is, if your men hadn't trampled all over it

>>67529077
look at your average football hooligan

>tfw will never be a working class football lad

feels bad

>>67528997
>>67529333
So how do explain that my working class british father has blonde hair, blue eyes and looks nordic?

>>67528918
>>67529175
Public Catholic schools are funded by the government.
Catholic schools are the best schools in the country since non Catholic and Protestant ones tend to be universally shit.
Modern Multicultural Ireland has tons of Muslims and tyrones who want their children to get the best education but Catholic schools have a Catholic children first policy.

The Eu has been putting pressure on the Irish government to make this illegal for years and considering Ireland is so progressive, liberal and EU dick sucking it will pass.

I can agree to an extent that it is not fair but Catholic children get most of their religious upbringing in school and go through the most important religious sacraments such as communion and confirmation through the schools.
There is going to be a lot of Catholic children that will be left out and will make those sacraments solo outside of schools which sucks.

It is something that has been going on for years but this is the end, rather than making it illegal the government should make more non catholic schools outside of Dublin.
They have been putting pressure on RTE to get rid of the angelus even though it has had it religious imagery removed and some areas in Dublin have had cribs removed at christmas.

>>67529467
danish rape babby

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>>67529446
>You will never be able to raise your son to violently hate people based on a certain football team they support

Why even live?

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>>67529542

>>67529467
rape babby

>>67529507
Disgusting. How people willingly sacrifice their own culture and their own children's advantage in their native home is a mystery to me

>>67529542
>will never get in fights for no reason over a football team

fuck life

>>67529542
literally a Dutch child lmao

>>67529542
smelly dumb insular celtic scum

continental celtic >> kakapipi > insular celtic

>>67529589
Being called a buzzword is worse than death, luckily my boss is a huge catholic.
He was complaining that people protesting the mosque being built in the town next over were shut down by SJWs and he was happy Trump won.

I am putting up a huge nativity scene in the shop window next week.

It's basically British culture to have as big a wealth gap and as much classism as possible.

>>67529714
Good lad

>>67529610
>over a football team

football hooliganism got to the point where it had fuck all to do with football, they'd all be in the cells or A&E before kickoff

plus some were legitimate organised criminals. where italy has the mafia, we had the chelsea headhunters lel

>>67529633
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mikey-wilson-middle-finger-kid

>Kids name is Mikey Wilson
>Wilson is an English name

Pretty sure it's just a English kid who's dad bought tickets believing his team would get to the final of the champions league, but failed and ended up siding with one side

>>67529911
he's wearing a rotterdam jersey you mong

>>67529948
Read my suggestion to why he's doing that you mong. You can also support a team that isn't inside your country. The fact that he still has an English name remains

>>67529906
sounds great lad

>will never go down to the pub after a good fight and then fuck some ugly brittish slags

>>67529911
>Many Dutch fans, including young Mikey, reacted by flipping the bird
>including mikey

our underclass has anglo names desu

>>67530039
Do they also have Anglo surnames?

Tell me, how many Dutchmen do you know with the surname 'Wilson'

>>67530095
>>Do they also have Anglo surnames?
you sent your durka-tier puritans here in the 1600's, so yes
>Tell me, how many Dutchmen do you know with the surname 'Wilson'
not an argument

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>>67530205
>You'll never walk alone on his forearm
>Not an anglo underclass football hooligan

My original theory was correct lad

>>67528185
Well except it does, if you're born working class then you're much less likely to make decent money than if you're born middle class

>>67531114
That's because middle-class know other middle-class that can help their children get better jobs. This would be a thing whether we had a class system or not

>>67525004
glasgow is a fucking shit hole, even comparing it to parts of Northern England

Edinburgh is far nicer

>>67531170
If you read the article it was about education

>>67531342
>wealthy people can afford better schools
>wealthy people prefer to be around other wealthy people
Wooowwww
If England still had grammar schools this wouldn't be an issue

>>67531457
When did grammar schools stop being a thing?

>>67522873
I think they think it is a bigger problem than it is, but we think it's a smaller problem than it is

>>67531530
I was under the impression that England was considering reviving their grammar schools because white british pupils are doing terribly in school

>>67531457
Nah the issue is the mentality that working class people have about education. Although the fact that the wealthier classes are going to schools that working class people can't go to isn't really proving your point that the class system is irrelevant

>>67531757
They're going there because their wealthy, this is the same in every country
>mentality that working class people have about education
And what mentality would that be?

>>67528425
Mah Eels. I like to pet the horses in those paddocks.

>>67522873
You can see the class difference. Rest of Europe this doesn't really happen but elsewhere class differences are more visible.

>>67531652
Reviving them? They never stopped being being a thing in Hampshire.

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>answering any questions for an anglo whore

drop dead you piece of shit

>>67522926
awful post
the working class still exist (me) we're just not the bottom of the pile anymore
>>67528156
good post
was going to post that image

>>67532295
bored of your butthurt, piss off

>>67531877
Middle class people don't go to private schools as much in the rest of the world as they do in England

It's been a while since I read the studies, but basically a lot of working class parents don't value education because they see it as removing working class culture by imposing middle class values on their kids

>>67533174
Then that's just poor people being stupid

>>67533174
>english, maths and science are "middle class values"

not even poortherners are that stupid

>>67533564
No it's because they have an identify of being poor and they don't want to give it up. Which is why the class system is stupid in the modern day and is holding the country back

>>67533931
>they don't want to give up being poor
Like i said, poor people being stupid

>>67533855
The study was done in Kent iirc

>>67533975
I bet you voted to leave because you didn't want to become European, even though it was the economically better choice

>>67534118
No i voted leave because I'm a nationalist. I don't buy into the whole "Britain isn't European" thing.
What's your point?

>>67522873
the so called "classes" do not exist anymore, the class system was a reality in some point of european history, but nowadays it's just a meme

I found this book about it:
http://ilmk.khspu.ru/?wpfb_dl=171

>>67534239
Still alive and well though.

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>mfw society classes are basically non-existant here these days

BRING BACK THE CLAN SYSTEM

CAMPBELLS ARISE THE MACDONALDS ARE ASKING FOR IT AGAIN