How to migrate to the US?

>>67464617
>how do I do that as a eurofag?
Marry an American
Get sponsored by a company
Pray that you can win the lottery

>>I don't have a Austrian citizenship though, just EU visa
I don't understand this

>>67464716
>I don't understand this

I'm not austrian, but live long enough in this country to have basically all the right except for voting.
I think this might be a problem...

>>67464617
>Pros overweight the cons
>Overweight
Congratulations, you're already an American.

>>67464835
Where do you have citizenship

>>67464929
a shitty country called Kosovo

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>>67464953
>Kosovo
>country


You can probably find out through the State Department website
http://www.state.gov/

>>67465017
yeah, I should have said East-Albania

>>67464617
'We no longer accept migrants. Enjoy communist Eurabia

>>67465049
You should go back and post there so that I can get the flag

I don't know m8. You'll probably want to check with the State Department first and then try to get a sponsorship from a US company

>>67464953
muslim

hmm.... no thanks

>>67465149
kek
I left that shit called religion years ago

> Tfw we let Americans have a working holiday visa but it's not reciprocal.

JUST

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>>67465235

Please don't be mean to him, I might be around if he blows up ;_;

>>67464953

Kosovo isnt a country

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>>67465256
IT'S NOT FAIR

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>>67465349
Let us bring nukes into your harbors then

>>67465282
glad to see you were able to inspire such loyalty and gratitude in someone your nation took in

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>I left that shit called religion years ago

>>67465415
>>67465415
I bet if actually manages to get into the US the first thing he will do is complain about not getting some thing he wants for free. Typical for those people.

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>>67465384
Nuclear Weapons?

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>>67465545
An issue of sovereignty?

The wall isn't up yet.

>>67465017
>>67465126
looks like the easiest way to do so is to find a job in the US and apply for the *Employment-Based Immigrant Visa Second Preference (E2)*

>>67465427
I don't get this Britain

>>67465487
you just feel pissed, that I got education for free and all that shit and payed only like 10k taxes

but don't worry, I'll be gone soon ;D

>>67465653
>looks like the easiest way to do so is to find a job in the US and apply for the *Employment-Based Immigrant Visa Second Preference (E2)*
You could always marry an American

>>67464617
we're full. sending people back as we speak.

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>a mudslime
>turned fedora
No.

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>>67464617

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>>67464617
how did you even get a masters and have 3 years work experiences at 25?

>I'm 24 and only have a bachelors degree with a year experiences

>>67465696
Fuck off with this Facecuck tier shit

Austria is better than the US though. I'm perplexed.

The US is shîthole compared to Austria. I'd gladly immigrate to Austria than the to the US. No seriously the US is a shîthole and will always be a shîthole.

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>>67465848
>>67465804

Why would you move to an African country like America when you already live in Austria?

>>67465804
yeah nah, US have legalized those green stuff and god tier range of nature. You'll be bored with living in cafe in Vienna drinking overprice coffee.

>>67465696
Do people honestly think this is a bad thing? That whole graph acts like it's okay to illegally immigrate because "hurr durr legal immigration is hard", but it should be hard as fuck considering we're one of the top countries for business and almost every industry and we should be selective so as to get the most skilled immigrants possible.

>>67465718
min for bachelor is 6 semesters (3 years)
for master it is 4 (2 years)

I took me 6 years in total, I started with 19 and finished with 25 about half a year or so

>>67465848
At least we dont have cuck like trudeau

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>US have legalized those green stuff

>>67465804
>>67465848
Europe is a shithole

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>Europe is a shithole

>>67465908
It's OK

>>67465890
okey but you said you have a 3 years of experiences though. Basically what you're sayin is that you just graduate and 0 experiences bro

>>67465908
US is not better actually, just different countries for different people.

I'm trying to get out too after my degree. This place is lost

>>67465941
t. shittiest country in europe
>>67465955
the US is much better than europe, no contest. although we see how things will go with trump, as long as he doesn't mess up the US will remain better

>>67465960
I started working part time job at a company for engineering combustion engines and am now working full time there

so basically I am working for 3 years there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>67465992
Listen to Ivan here. The US is great if you want to make money and you take pride in and enjoy what you do. If not, Europe is good for quality of life in general.

>>67466000
>this place is lost
>moves to the united states of mexicans and black presidents
ok

To all these yuros that think North America is better than europe, what parts are you talking about?

>>67466024
>the US is much better than europe, no contest
If you want to make and keep money, sure. If you want security, and Euros tend to overvalue security, Europe is better

>>67466104
The Netherlands. Massive shithole apparently.

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>>67466071
>the US is good if you want to take the money and run
Sounds like you need to be deported, anon.

>>67466101
United States of Walls and 100% White Populace*

>>67466101
Mexicans are fine
>black president
He was okay
>>67466104
More job opportunities, better to start a family, cheaper to live, more to earn, less muslims, less EU countries leeching off of you, less socialists, more nature.

>>67466162
>He was okay
He really wasn't

>>67466101
Americans have the option to seclude themselves from all this bullshit. What do we have?

>>67466179
the US is still going strong, and he was better than bush at least, another bush would have doomed the US

>>67466162
>>67466179
>He was okay

the biggest war mogul in the history of the democrats

So you're ethnic Albanian or what? Are you christian or muslim or ((them)) ?

It might make a difference. With Trump in power you might want to convert to christianity of ((judiasm)).

>>67466071
Pretty much. I love my country, especially for it's geography and beauty. And FREEDOM. And some of my fellow Americans are OK, but I don't care for most of them. Low standards are destroying our country.

But I also travel to Europe a few times per year on business, and usually extend the stay into a vacation. I've been to Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Germany, and Britain many times.

For culture and urban beauty it's hard to beat Austria. We're different and by no means better in all ways or even most.

That said, I've worked with lots of H1-Bs in my jobs (chemist, application engineer) from China, India, Britain, Ireland, etc --- even Iran and Canada. There's a way if you really want it.

>>67466104
Any part outside of some extremes really.
West coast seems great (stretching up to Canada), Colorado, Minnesota, most of the east coast, Canadian part of the big lakes.

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>>67466199
Randstad detected

>>67466162
Ok so you're aware that the only thing that the US beats Europe on is take home pay and purchasing power

>>67466071
Not only this, there are also cultural differences. For example I adore cozy old European cities, while some people think it's boring and want to live in NY.

>>67466069
That's a weird concept though, here in New Zealand or Australia your job experiences is based on continuous work experiences. People here might assume you have no experiences which I find really stupid to be honest. Anyway, goodluck finding a nice job OP. A masters degree with engineering would always be in demand anywhere

>>67466244
Groningen actually.

>>67466250
He's probably angry about the black pete discussion. So he moves to America so he can be a black pete in the American forests.

>>67466210
>the US is still going strong
After he threw away Iraq to AQI and Iran and caused the slowest recovery from a recession since 1945. He didn't do us any favors

>>67466250
And cancer survival rates

>>67466267
My condolences.

Well, at least I don't live in the UK, which is the biggest shithole in the West.

>>67466274

Republicunts are still mad that his eternally sustainable 2-3% GDP growth wasn't another fucking bubble. Because muh "Business Cycle" has to happen to be normal. Booms and busts are wonderful!

>>67466310
How about France?

>>67466324
France has very nice regions. The UK has none. They're all ugly and depressive, just like the people.

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>>67466310
>Netherlands

>>67466296
Its not that bad just there aren't any jobs and anything that isn't Groningen itself is completely void of young people, jobs and anything nice in general other than cheap houses.

The only good places left in this country are expensive as fuck towns around Utrecht and okayish places in Gelderland. Everything else is just trash.

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>>67466319
>basically negative interest rates
>QE is done for
>but it isn't a bubble
What did he mean by this

>>67466253
This also. American cities have a very different feel to them than Europe. It will not be like other Euro cunts in the slightest. There are some major differences that will not make themselves clear until you actually come here and see for yourself. Oh and unless you plan on living in NY, make sure you can drive a car.

>>67466274
>After he threw away Iraq
Bush set the timetable.
>caused the slowest recovery from a recession since 1945.
You mean the recession that happened in Bush's administration..?

>>67464953
Green card lotto, possible refugee status ( the amount of refugees allowed in from Europe is on the rise) or get sponsored though an employer

>>67466432
Because of policies enacted under Clinton

>>67466504
Policies set by the Gingrich Congress under their Contract On America.

>>67466395
As I know it's nearly impossible to live comfortable in the USA and don't have a driver license.

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>>67466385
I live in a village next to Utrecht with my parents with an entire 4 room floor for myself. I'm still single so I can't buy a house here. So when I move out I'll have to let my luxury lifestyle go and probably end up in some shitty apartment in a place where I don't want to be. Or I could get a house in bumfuck nowhere, which basically feels like admitting defeat.

>>67466395

Yeah, our cities for the most part are pretty new and we don't value aesthetics and history as much as un-bombed Europe. Our cities glisten and sparkle, but don't really evoke any emotion other than "Oooh - shiny!" And like a lot of other cities in the Americas, venture a 15 blocks down the wrong street and get murdered/robbed/raped.

"The wrong side of the tracks" is a patently American idiom.

>>67466551

Yes, outside of a few major urban metropolis' it is. We are a car culture. Two reasons: we are huge, and we value independence. That said, many of our cities have acceptable light rail systems.

>>67466553
I come from a huge 'herenhuis' in the countryside, had all the luxuries in life and now I live in a room inside a rotten 30s building with old people and black people for neighbours. Everything is grim over here and the idea that this might be all I'll ever have depresses me.

Row houses in places like Zeist already cost 300k+, and the only places that offer good housing for people with our job prospects are in post-industrial sleeper towns and villages in the middle of nowhere. It sucks.

>>67466551
Very much so, growing up here is a bit annoying as a kid and teenager until you get a driver's license because it takes fucking forever to get anywhere on foot or with shitty public transportation. I imagine slavland might be similar since your cunt is huge.
>>67466581
Depends what city you're at though. East coast colonial cities have a soul to them, not like some of the major cities out west and in Florida.

>>67466707
The problem here isn't only the price itself. Houses in lower price ranges also sell within a day.

>>67466712
Yeah it's pretty much the same here, except may be for Moscow or St. Petersburg.

>>67466712
All cities have a "soul". You are just to autistic to realize it

>>67466753
Not to mention the social housing bullshit going on.

Seriously, the people who house refugees in overpopulated areas with a housing shortage here should be second amendemented.

>>67466821
Is 'second amendment' slang for shot in The Netherlands?

>>67466761
Do you guys have the same kind of car culture we have here? We have tons of young guys driving lifted pickup trucks, muscle cars, japanese imports, bmws etc. It's really one of the best things about America, highway drag races late at night are great.

>>67466913
No, that would be illegal. It means they should be able to carry weapons to defend themselves.

>>67466821
Not just refugees. They're the icing on the cake.
So many undesirables have houses in areas with huge demands. Single moms with all sorts of negroid children, old people (no offense but plenty of smaller towns have great support for them, why stay in Amsterdam?), unemployed people, the list goes on.

Who don't actually have social housing in areas with housing shortage: Normal working people or people that might actually contribute something.

>>67466916
This is one of the reasons, why I want to immigrate
our car culture is shit and will continue to get shittier

I honestly regret buying a e46 M3...

>>67466947
True. I actually said the same thing to someone else a few weeks ago.

>>67466916

Yes, car culture is huge in America. Always has been since at least the 1950s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kndOZHfKCs

>>67466916
Yeah, but pickups cars aren't really popular here though some people like something like gelenvagen or land rover. Also we don't have many Americans cars, they're pretty expensive here, especially old and cool ones. Instead we have ours, but they're pretty shitty tbqh, maybe you've heard of Lada.

>>67466947
>Single moms
They got property just because they have fucked with a stranger and haven't used contraceptives?

>>67467210
Is that the car that hasn't changed appreciably since 1954?

>>67467210
Not him, but I've only heard of it from Top Gear and maybe some other British shows.

>>67466250
>Ok so you're aware that the only thing that the US beats Europe on is take home pay and purchasing power
Those two things are pretty fucking huge

I love it, how this thread became a car relatet topic now

>>67467210

AFAIK Lada's since the 1980s are basically FIATs.

>>67467390

Honestly, if you want to become American you need to understand what it is to be American. And a lot of that involves cars, as Sergei pointed out.

It's really interesting that, instead of spending all that R&D money on efficient wind-powered high speed and light rail, the money is going into R&D on autonomous cars.

That's AMERICAN!

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>>67467333
They've changed recently and now it resembles a common shitty European car. You can't do something good when you have been doing shit since 60s and ignored progress in the industry.

>>67467278
In the Netherlands if you have a low or no income you get so many benefits, you are often better off than someone who does work.
For example social housing, money for rent, money for insurance, have to pay less city taxes etc.

In total single moms receive more than 2000 euros after taxes, plus they enjoy a lower cost of living in social housing.
They calculated that if they start working 4 days a week their purchasing power would drop with 1000 euros a month.

>>67465235
What's the point of working holiday visas? Great you get to work at McDonalds for 5 months and then we kick you out. You can't travel since you will spend 12 hours working in the ghetto just so you can afford food and water.

If you did that you would hate America, but you would get redpilled af having to deal with our lower class scum.

>>67467390
Cars are genuinely one of the biggest parts of our culture. Despite what shitty movies and such will tell you, there is an American culture beyond consumerism and action movies. Small town culture is a prime example of this, baseball, football, hometown highschool rivalries, 4th of july celebrations, the little things.

>>67467446
and that's exactly what I love about 'MURICA
In Europe all those stupid regulations make it almost impossible to own a decent powered car (more than 300 HP)
an also fuel is pretty expensive

it took me years to finally buy a BMW e46 M3 and now that I own it, it is eating away my money, but it is worth it.
Every time I start it up and give it a run around the track it makes me grind like a idiot
a happy idiot though

>>67467493
I think that social policy are totally fucked up when working people are in more trouble, than some degenerates or lazy fucks. Although as I know there are problems with property prices in almost every developed country.

>>67465883
But the skilled immigrants route is the longest and most difficult one

>>67467565
The good thing about America is the gas is cheap.

If gas prices go up we will invade a country and then it's back to being cheap.

>>67467493

Single moms get that today because your planners value the increase in population to prop up the geometric model of economic expansion that defines the west.

Now that you have all your new "Dutch" from the middle east and north Africa expect those benefits to begin to drop. They will blame it on "costs to support our new friends".

We actually did the opposite in the 1990s under Clinton of all people. We actually cut their benefits if they didn't work. Liberals lost their shit over it, but overall it's a helpful policy. Working builds self-esteem and a sense of ownership in the economy. It's the same reason conservatives give for everyone paying some level of federal taxes. In our last election about half of the country couldn't even be bothered to fucking vote - something most of the world would kill for. And coincidentally about half of America doesn't pay any federal taxes.

The most cruel bigotry is one of lowered standards.

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>>67467574
>Although as I know there are problems with property prices in almost every developed country.
No, we're unique snowflakes in that regard. We're like an expensive capital city where the prices get driven up artificially through shitty policies.

>>67467565
I think that's just a European thing. If I lived in Austria, I would never ever buy myself a car tbqh.

Muslims belong in Britain

>>67467704
yeah, in austria owning a car is considere a luxury rather than a need

I probably could live without a car, but I wouldn't want to.

>>67467674
There never really was any welfare reform. All of those people just found their way into Social Security disability
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/di_asr/2011/sect01.html

>>67467694
>House prices will rise in 2016 by 3½ to 5½% compared to 2015. In 2017 prices are expected to rise by 5 to 7%
Woohoo the banks are celebrating.

>>67467873
>Couples who jointly apply for a loan to buy a house are now able to get higher mortgages than before, which increases their buying options on the market
YES GREAT NEWS

>>67467694
>Portugal is second
Wtf

>>67467873
>>67467908
this might sound stupid, but why don't you build your own house?
If the price is so hight, it may pay off

>>67467908
Is it even real to but a house is your are alone and not a richfag?

>>67467964
>To buy a house if you are alone*
Sorry, autocorrection.

>>67467908
The thing is: the more people are able to loan, the more they ask for houses.
The government subsidizes the rent on mortgages, so people are able to loan more and more.
And the prices just increase along with them.

People don't wish to sell houses for less than what they bought them for, because then they'd be in debt.
If the government would stop subsiding rent on mortgages, people would go in debt. So they can't just ditch the system.

So all house owners win. And people who have yet to acquire a house lose.

>>67467953
Trouble with that is that the house itself ain't worth much. The land however, is very valuable.

>>67467997
I think there are also many taxes and regulations on building a house.

>>67467994
And the kicker is the government is trying to ditch the system slowly. So the prices will eventually decrease. And the new buyers will pay for that decrease in housing prices, as they will have bought their houses for too much money.

>>67468022
I think that is the main problem in Netherlands, since we have the same issue in Austria as well

>>67467997

It's actually not that much different in the US. That's how you can get a really nice 4 bedroom house in Texas for $200K, while a 2 bedroom condo in San Francisco goes for $1.2 million.

>>67467964
>Is it even real to but a house is your are alone and not a richfag?
Here yes, except for Washington DC, San Francisco and NYC. Even NYC has areas to buy if you are willing to ride the subway into NJ. DC is a sprawling nightmare with shit public transportation options so this is less possible but still doable if you are willing to drive 1.5 hours to work everyday. San Francisco, LOL get fucked poorfag

>>67468163
If you move to the east of the country you will get a lot more value for your money here as well.
But people in the Netherlands are used to having their entire life closeby (bike to work, family nearby, supermarket down the street). So moving to a village with barely any stores and only old people in it seems like a ridiculous idea to most people..

We're also very regionalistic. People in other regions also funny and have other mannerisms. In villages you might be looked at. So people don't want to move outside of the areas where they are born. But the economic situation will probably force them.

>>67468202
I don't have a clue how usual person can buy a house in San-Fran, even though you can be a programmer and earn 10k a month it's fucking hard to buy something under 500k, how do you suppose to earn that amount of money.

>>67467994

Meh. If you're flipping houses you should expect to lose your ass sometimes.

We bought a house in Chicago for $280K. Six years later we sold it for $405K and plowed that money into a house in Ohio. Then 2009 happened and our house lost 15% in value. Today it's worth about what we paid for it. So over 15 years we've gained about - what - 4% per year? And we put about $20K into the last house and about $30K into this house.

Nobody gets rich buying and owning houses. You get rich flipping properties and screwing people who don't know better.

>>67468272
*people in other regions talk funny
People can instantly hear where you're from. And many even speak in a minority language.

>>67468293

I used to work with a guy who lived in Mountain View, California. He was a successful salesman in biochem engineering products and his wife was a obstetrician. They had a tiny (1000 sq ft) house on a tiny lot they paid $800K for. Their monthly mortgage payment was about $7K, or about 40% of their take-home.

Five years later their house was worth $1 million. They got a divorce and each basically broke even after lawyers and real estate broker fees.

I honestly do not know how people in the Bay Area do it on less than $120K / year. I've been at it for 15 years and my house is almost paid for. My mortgage payment is less than 25% of my take home. But then again, I live in a "Flyover State".

>>67468293
Rent a house with multiple roomates. In expensive cities like SF the cost of a mortgage is considerably higher than renting. In cheaper parts of the country it may be cheaper to have a martgage payment than rent. You could probably get the rent down to 1000 a month or less if you are willing to live with a roomate.

>>67468543
The USA has relatively few areas that all people flock to. Thank doge Europe has language barriers so other Europeans don't flock here.

>>67468543
>Buy a house together
>Get divorced
Kek. I wouldn't even get married in first or second world countries. Usually men rights are fucked up. Also it's good when you count just on yourself.

>>67468630
Yeah I read that people(2-4) often live in one room, and even this may be pretty expensive

>>67468791
I remember one google employee that decide to live in a box truck
http://www.businessinsider.com/google-employee-lives-in-truck-in-parking-lot-2015-10/#-3

>>67469041
I've also read about a girl from Google or Twitter who lived in her car in a parking lot. But she also had big student debt. It feels kinda good to live in Russia sometimes, I got free stem-field education.