Why is the middle-east and balkans cultures so similar? Music,

Baba Osman

What the turk above said

>>67374018
that's not near east..
near east is grecia+anatolia+levant+egypt and optionally mesopotamia

>>67374073
I'm not a Turk.

>>67374104
>grecia
for Turks mayby.

>>67374018
Literally all Arabs

https://youtu.be/fyjuqteJFgk

the balkans don't have common culture
same goes for the middle east
both "regions" are just conceptions of western armchair experts who pretend to know anything about non-western countries

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Greek dancing

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Turkish dancing

>>67374018
>>67374018

Did you get bullied by balkanites at school little faggot?

>>67374195
For the Turks the near east wouldn't include Turkey too, shouldn't it?

The Ottoman period obviously influenced the cuisine and music, but saying the Balkans have the same culture as the Arabs and Iran is ridiculous.

>>67374385
>turkish
bravo

>>67374272

This.

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Serbian national food is kebab

>>67374603
That's just because they gotta remove it

>>67374258
>Slovakian song representing Slovenia

that's pretty funny

>>67374603
They aren't. They were common in Muslim areas only until the communist Yugoslavia. And ćevapi share nothing but a name with the Akkadian meal kababu

>>67374682
Slovakian is the language, Slovenia the country right?

>>67374511
>>turkish
>bravo
What do you mean by this?

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>>67374709
Every Serbian loves cevapi why are you denying this

And you even eat it with pita bread

>>67374784
The Mevlevis aren't Turkish. The very word darwish is Persian

>>67374709
Yeah, čevapi are actually an appropriation of Turkish koefte, not kebab. But čevapi definitely are a Serbian national dish and the mainstay of every Serbian ethnic restaurant, at least in Slovenia.

>>67374018
You would be surprised how much of the "turkish" culture was stolen from all the neighbours, especially Greece.

>>67374845
>word is persian
this doesnt mean anything.
Mevlevi tradition lives in turkey not in iran

>>67374845
Damn, the one thing they had and it turns out to be Persian...

>>67374748
No, Slovenian and Slovak are two different languages that are about halfway mutually intelligible.

>>67374018
all raped by the eternal turk

>>67374890
turkish food
you mini turks

>>67374980
Wait, so were do they speak Slovak? Slovenian in Slovenia, Slovak in __?

>>67374018

Balkans have the most interesting culture in the world, not that you'd understand being the most vapid uncultured society to ever exist.

>>67374999
all turks are rape babies

>>67374840
No he does not, ćevapi are notorious for having worst parts of meat. It's a poor man's food. If any Turkish dish is the national dish of Serbia, that's sarma. As for the pita bread, it's not the same thing as somun,

>>67374890
Not a single ethno restaurant in Serbia that I visited has ćevapi on menu.

>>67374934
The Mevlevis evolved in Turkey, but are originally Persian

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>>67375032
>Balkans have the most interesting culture in the world
jump in you retarded subhuman

>>67375081
you animals sell tehm probably in stands like bulgarians

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>>67375081
>order ćevapcici in beograd for lunch
>it's only €3,80 the portion cant be that big
>tfw

>>67375022
Čevapi are great for picnics. You just shape some mincemeat into oblong meatballs, rub it with salt, pepper and spice mixture and put it on the grill for a cheap, quick, tasty dish that goes well with any condiment from mayo to ketchup to kajmak cheese. Don't see a fault here, m80.

>>67375112
>retarded subhuman
>says the ill-educated unterschicht

Negře, prosím

>>67375112
>you animals sell tehm probably in stands like bulgarians
Yes.

>>67375180
>€3,80
Why were you eating at the centre of Belgrade. You could've gotten far bigger portions for like 1 Euro outside the capital

>>67375081
sarma is bulgaria

>>67375031
You're pretty uppity for a speaker of a standardised High German dialect desu.

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>>67375191
>m mayo to ketchup
disgusting slav animals
your food looks like it was made by a 10 years old girl

>>67375255
>sarma is bulgaria
Well as the name is Turkic, that might as well be true

>>67375255
Sarma is Turkish but it's the national dish of every country south and east of Slovenia, and of Austria as well.

>>67375302
>german
>talking about food

>>67375230
get fucked you subhuman

>>67375237
yes those shitty stands are everywhere in bulgaria
nothing else in this shit country
both countries have also a lot of whores and gypsies on the streets

>>67375255
its not you slav subhuman

>>67375237
You do realise a barely sustaining, shitty ham and cheese sandwich costs almost £4 in London ?

>>67375283
that's low german btw

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>>67375191
>any condiment from mayo to ketchup to kajmak cheese
jesus fucking christ

>>67375363
>Gjermani
>talking shit about food

>>67375356
I am a Greek croatshit

>>67375399
I am a Greek serbshit

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>>67375302
Whatever that is, I've never tried it before. But here's a bread spread all of our own, for real men only, so the saying goes.

>>67375363
Take your pills, angry man-child. I'm not even slavic but you're just awkward as fuck.

>>67375390
No, I am poor

>>67375419
Sure you are, Mustafa-beyefendim

>>67375425
fuck you and your bread

>>67375446
i take your mother you subhuman
whenever i see a comment of yours in a thread i feel ashamed for being a human like you

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>>67375347
Sarma is so good...

This guy makes by far the best vegetarian version, literally one of the best things I ever ate

>>67375449
How easy is to tour the Balkans in a few weeks? Let's say I wanna visit Slovakia-Croatia-Bosnia-Serbia-Montenegro. Can I do it by bus or train? Will anybody in those places hate me for being dutch (especially bosniaks and serbs)?

>>67375449
He is Ikibey the Circassian, which effectively makes him a Mustafa effendi, yeah, since Circassians are an even faker nationality than any in the Balkans.

>>67375617
I have no idea, sorry

>>67375449
I am a Geek, not a turk.

>odgovarat grgljokurcu
>Ikad

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>>67375449
>No, I am poor
checks flag

say no more f@m

>>67375598
Are you stamping your feet as you type that m8 ?

>>67375638
cekeshits are some of the lowest humans in the planet
shit like albanians or gypsies
even an arab looks like a human near those dogs

>>67375652
geeknes doesn't exclude turkicness t b h

>>67375675
yup

>>67375617
I rented a car in Tirana and drove all the way to Sarajevo stopping at places in between. Al, in a week. Ask your questions if you wish.

But yeah I highly recommend both Slovakia and BiH

>>67375708
Are you that chechen subhuman?

>>67375687
i would like to stamp them into your face

>>67375718
nothing about turkey is turkic
except the language

>>67375777
and what is more important than language my tengrist friend

>>67375617
>I wanna visit Slovakia-Croatia-Bosnia-Serbia-Montenegro
only two of those countries you mentioned are in the balkans

>>67375770
I am a Greek, not an animal.

>>67374018
you have to go back

>>67375613
I never really liked sarma until I tried it oven-baked instead of cooked and with raw cabbage rather than sour. But I guess it comes down to the fact that a Croatian would be used to sarma as home cooking whereas I only first tried it as an adult and don't associate it with anything in particular.

>>67375753
1. Both me and my buddy are 21, will they rent us a car?
2. How are the roads? How is traffic? Will it be difficult to drive through?
3. How are the grills?

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>>67375804

>>67375819
All of those are Balkan countries m8

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>>67375845
stupid westerners
only stupid things in your heads

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boza

>>67375881
There aren't strong evidences that the Ottoman dynasty was of Turkish origin to begin with

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>>67375895
Slovakia is Central European tho.

>>67375955
turkey is a country full of shit history
like serbia, but better at everything

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These niggers have been in the same empires since the Persians. It's a cultural era in its own right. The Greeks had more in common with the Phoenicians and Egyptians than the Celts of Europe.

>>67375929
GOD-tier drink to have with banichka in the morning

i'll thank Allah for inventing this drink

>>67375922
The edgy chechen subhuman who posts 24/7 also posts edgy copypastas

kill yourself chechen, get a life

>>67376020
That conclusion is mostly the result of your poor education

>>67376027
celts werent considered human at that time

>>67376027
The "Persians" - if we can call them an empire - were controlling only the Aegean and the Black Sea coasts.

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>>67376036
I am a Greek

>>67376039
go and live among turks
and you will understand
turkey is a worthless shit country like serbia
both must be destroyed for a better world

>>67376028
agreed

>>67376122
Both are still far better than Chechenya from which you had to emigrate into a developed country though,

>>67376111
because only subhumans were living north of greek cities
like today
nothing changed

>>67376111
The upper Balkans didn't really get enriched until the Byzantines.

>>67376180
chechens are lesser people
they get called subhumans by subhumans (russians)
something must be wrong when trash like russians call you a subhuman

>>67376210
The archaeological evidences do not agree with your statement. They were just protected by mountains.

>>67376236
Enriched by whom exactly?

>>67376257
Yep, you should meditate on that thought.

>>67376180
he's not chechen
he's the turk that spams "I am Greek"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastirma

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>>67375638
>>67375770
he is laz and thinks lazes are greek. Kill him on sight

>>67376291
>>67375638

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>>67376288
The Greeks

>>67376257
>self hating chechen

At least you know youre subhuman

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>>67376288
subhumans

>>67375845
>1.
I can't imagine why not, 21 is the standard international minimum age. I would avoid the bigger companies like Europcar, avis, hertz etc. as they'll charge you a premium, in addition to having really boring cars like hyundai and opel.
>2.
From Tirana to Kotor it took about 6 hours with 1,5 hours on the border (unusual I was told - all other crossings took 15-20 mins). From Kotor to Sarajevo via Mostar was about the same time but with an hour to see Mostar.

The roads are fine in all countries (we took the main routes though). They're all single carriageway though, except just outside Sarajevo where there was a brand new toll motorway where you could drive at 130km/hr. Driving standards are quite shit but Albania is 10 times worse compared to everywhere else. You'll need an insurance green card to cross the border in a hire care.

>3.

I travelled with gf but t b h Serbia has the best grills. Aside from that, for me personally Sarajevo was the best city, Slovenia the most all round beautiful (but then again Slovenia is the best country in the world), Montenegro had the best nature, Albania the best food, Serbia the most friendly people and I haven't been to Hrvatska or Makedonia. Dont bother with inland Montenegro/Podgorica - it's pretty bleak.

>>67376291
I am a Greek

>>67376307
where do you always find a working german proxy?

>>67376371
I am a Greek not a dog.

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>>67376338
The Upper Balkans were never really enriched by the Greeks. Romance languages were preserved until the Slavic invasion.

>>67376373
>Chechenya not even on the map

>>67376416
>where do you always find a working german proxy?
from low-iq immigrants like you

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>>67376427
chehens are shitty people
like balkanshits but worse

>>67376435
t. iq 85

>>67376494
Yes you are t b h

>>67376555
I am a Greek

>>67376494
Agreed, dirty Chechen, you are a shitty person. Now I will stop replying to you.
>>67376378
thanks mate. Both me and my buddy don't drive at all (we both have licenses) so if the driving is too hard I guess it's better to use buses or whatever.

Sounds good. I think I'll do this trip next summer. I've only been to the Croatian coast with my gf's family years ago, was alright but didn't see anything apart from sea.

>>67376427
Remember that the Jirecek Line applies to the Balkans during antiquity. But after the fall of western Rome I'd argue that the line is pushed up to Serbia and Wallachia as demonstrated by the use of Cyrillic and Orthodoxy.

>>67376683
get fucked shitskin

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>>67376416
>I am a Greek

Hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahha that explains everything. You should come to London, I've never had more frustrating or otherwise completely ridiculous conversations as with Greek men. Maybe then you'll realise what fucking clownshoes people from this indebted country are.

The whole arrogance + utter delusion thing they're such pros at really gets under your skin.

>>67374104
No one said near east you cockroach. He said Middle East

>>67376767
you write like a faggot

>>67376683
Honestly if you've driven in Paris or to a lesser extent London I wouldn't say there's anything stressful about driving in ex-yu countries. The only thing you need to be concerned about is dickheads of mopeds pulling out in front of you. I'm not the most confident driver but I never felt uncomfortable driving there. Plus you really should rent a car as driving in the stunning landscape there is part of the whole experience.

>>67376921
Good response, Yannis

>>67376378
>Driving standards are quite shit but Albania is 10 times worse compared to everywhere else.

Kek, can confirm.

>>67377504
t. brown subhuman

>Serbs remove kebab
>They have kebab culture

The irony, no?

>>67377696
kebab is Greek

>>67377695

>that flag
>Greek/Turk/Chechen whatever your subhuman self is
>calling me a brown subhuman

Sure thing Muhammad.

>>67377738

What's the difference between Turks and Greeks?

>>67377745
oc zazaaaa

>>67377797
Greeks are Christians

>>67376739
Cyrillic was invented in Bulgaria, the "Orthodoxy" didn't have a strong foothold in South Slavic countries for a long long time

>>67374018
How is afghanistan middle east? It belongs to central asia.

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This thread is surprisingly more civil than a usual thread that mentions Turkey

>>67375708
du kleiner hurensohn

>>67374018
Because that's where civilisation comes from.