R.I.P. ESTONIA

who cares lol

>>67233983
Get the fuck out of Finland, Thomas

gingrich isn't in charge of anything.

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>>67234058

I'm not Estoian.

Fuck Estonia and Fuck NATO.

>>67234075

Secratary of State, Hillary's old job. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/07/why_newt_gingrich_would_be_a_perfect_secretary_of_state_for_trump.html

>>67233983
In europe , uk has always been the biggest power against russia. There's this belief in the public that the eu is against russia but it's not really founded on much besides conspiracies .

In reality germany depends on russian resources. Without the uk and romania,poland,slovakia and hungary all having claims on ukrainian land that russia can at least "partially" satisfy in case of a war against ukraine. The only states "against" russia remains the baltics and putin's not going to risk fucking up what is essential a unwritten peace agreement with the EU for the baltics.

>>67234113
Go back to Estonia

?Fun? fact: Newt wrote his dissertation on Belgian control of Congo.
It's...serviceabe. He has at least some perspective and has actually studied world history and policy.

Newt is also not a fan of Putin at all.

Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania could do a lot worse than Newt "put zoos on the moon" Gingrich.

>>67233983
Kek, i love Americans now.

Would the loss of qt esti grills really be that much of a loss?

>>67233983
>that cownt section

First the rest of the world bitches and moans that we need to stay out of other their business and now they expect us to give a rat's butthole about them?

>>67233983
ESTONIA BTFO

>40% RUSSIANS
>just a suburb

HAHAHAHAHAHAH WAR HAWKS BTFO

>>67233983
>JUST SAINT PETERSBURG'S SUBURBS
ESTONIA ON SUICIDE WATCH

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Estonia is a goner, let Russia have it.

The country is the main access point for Scandinavian bullshit into Slavland; they couldn't pierce through the endless savagery of Poles and Czechs, so now they've decided to take the longer route through Finland, Estonia and finally reach the master race countries from there.

>>67234294
>Estonians
>cute
If you like finngols that much, why settle for the runner-ups? Go to Finland.

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>>67234223

I am not Estonian

>>67234639
>american space capsule in the hammer and sickle

literally what the fuck did time mean by this?

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We will protect Estonia.

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>>67234710

You're not even part of the EU anymore

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>>67233983
>Russian Diaspora
They are defective. They have Baltic genes and a greater likelihood of occurrence of multiple sclerosis.

>>67234729
It's all about NATO.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36739781

>>67234733
In the near future those genes can be pulled out of babies anyways

>>67234729
NATO's far more anti-russia than the EU

Germany depends more or less on russian resources.

>>67233983
>Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania
>places that us Americans may not know about

kek

>>67233983
what the hell is that fattie saying?

now that they got a reality tv star as president america is just going to ignore all their alliances when it suits them?

>>67235063
Maybe you should have paid denbts

>>67235107
we are not estonia and not in any danger of invasion from anyone

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>>67234747

TRUMP WILL DISBAND NATO

Suicide watch in full effect

>not even 1 estonian ITT
they can't even reply hahahaha

>>67235839
Maybe It's because It's a weird ass time to open this thread?

>>67233983
Jesus, no one is going to invade Estonia, dont even compare that with Ukraine, in the ukranian case there were absolutely different situation and reasons why Russia organized the war in Donbass and annexed Crimea. And no one is going to invade Finland as soos as you're not in NATO.

post more russian qt's

>>67233983
Fuck this shouldn't be happening. Trump is just putting neo-liberal retards into cabinent postions.

These guys are the same fucks who've been fucking us over the past 30 years.

Trump is supposed to be against globalization and interventionism.

>>67234145
The more I see of the people that will make up Trump's inner circle the more I start to think buyer's remorse is coming in hard and fast down south.

>>67235905
- asked the Dutch.

>>67236032

Praise Kek

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-updates-on-the-2016-election-voting-and-race-results/rnc-chairman-trump-is-not-calling-for-mass-deportation/

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/muslim-ban-statement-disappears-trump-website/story?id=43433347

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/dick-bove-for-banks-trumps-election-is-a-grand-slam.html

>>67235927
t. putins mom

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>>67236163
So it begins.

So much for the perfidious anglo "world police".

these fucking spawn of british turd frauds.

AHAHAHAHa


roman empire collapses

>>67236236
you must be reatrded believing in things like Putin invading countries for no reasons (or for fun)

>>67235927

Finland has 0 reason to join NATO

>>67236334
I mean you invaded georgia and ukraine so why not?

>>67236338
as Russia has no reasons to invade it

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>>67236023
>he thinks kikes will give up power without a blood and shit all out goyim revolution


democracy turned the west's brains into puddy

>>67236360
There were reasons why it happened.
But why should Russia invade Estonia? Just 'coz ebil Putin wants that?
I'm actually not his fan and not trying to justify his actions, but you should be at least objective. The same way I can say the US wants to invade Russia since it already did it in Afghanistan and Iraq, for example.

>>67236399
I hope /pol/ doesn't go full retard and just defend trump for everything because of memes.

If he sells out they better switch gears.

>>67236432
>There were reasons why it happened.
Yes muh opressed Russian minority.

And what's stopping Putin of creating that same reason for Estonia?

>>67236460
Minority can be only a formal excuse, as it was in Donbass, but not the reason to invade since Putin doesnt really care about Russians. Seems you have very naive views regarding politics.

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Did you know that Gingrich is an alternate fiction novelist?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0671877399/

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>>67236363

We know but the globalist military industrial complex keep pushing the meme. Our president even had to make a statement about it this week.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/president_niinisto_security_discussion_in_finland_sharply_divided/9276865

>>67236432
what reasons did putin have to anex it? he had no ownership. if a bunch of latinos start bitching about wanting to be mexican again does that give mexico the right to anex california?

>>67236688
also, check them double dubs.

>>67236711
and then check those, bitch.

>>67236688
>>67236711
Dubs of American truth.

>>67236517
What was the reason?

>>67236777
you got a nice set on you too.

>>67236688
It was the response to the pro-western coup in Kyev and losing Ukraine from Kremlin's sphere of influence. He didnt really care about the Russian population, but its support and disorganization of the Ukranian army and security services made that annexation extremly easy.

>>67236848
>he had a reason:it was easy
my sides are in orbit, by that logic the us has the right to anex most of africa

>>67236778
this>>67236848
And the Kremlin created the war in Donbass just to weaken pro-western Ukranie as much as possible and to have an instrument to put pressure on the West in possible negotiations over the Ukranian crisis.

>>67236881
>>67236848
none of this is making you sound less evil.

>>67236871

too late, africa is rightful chinese clay

>>67236871
The reason is:
>It was the response to the pro-western coup in Kyev and losing Ukraine from Kremlin's sphere of influence.

Also it's worth mentioning Ukranian Crimea had russian military bases and any possibilities of losing them werent good for the Kremlin.

Russia invading Finland is stupider than US elections. This is some best korea tier brainwashing.

>>67236893
Look who's talking about being evil.

Anyway, I'm not even trying to make us sound less evil since I dont support Putin at all; I'm just stating what things really are.

>>67236923
>>67236923
it was an act of war. none of the reasons you're giving make it sound less evil or make it seem justified in anyway, i wish your country would just say what it was doing and stop being such a little bitch about it.

>>67236946
True. But Russia "invading" Finland can happen at any time. And you'll be all like "where's proofs" and "just protecting ourselves" while tanks are squishing Pekkas in Helsingfors.

>>67236848
so suppose we have a coup? is putin now the guardian of democracy in former ussr?

>>67237015
Well, US invading Sweden can happen at any time. And they'll be like WMD and somalian terrorists while tanks are squishing cucks.

There is no fucking logic here, comparing Finland and Crimea is literally like comparing Sweden with Iraq.

>>67236966
>>67236966
you were arguing about it as though it was ok for russia to do it, it was a batshit move and russia can't be trusted to not doing something like it in the future. i think a lot of people are concerned that your country was just testing the waters. see >>67237015 you do w/e you want and then just pretend its not happening and hope the world is too scared of ww3 to do anything. its not the cold war anymore this shit will be world-destroying if it goes further.

>>67237019
Of course not. He reacted in such way since it was pro western coup which led to Ukraine going out of Russian sphere of influence.
I cant believe that it's not so fuckin obvious for you.

>>67237088
so if a former ussr state leaves the russian sphere of influence putin is going to invade? because it seems like we'll be seeing a lot more of that in the coming decades.

>>67237019
He is the guardian of the only Russian Black Sea fleet base, which is something that allows Russia to get to Syria and other places. Every politician knew that Russia is not going to just let it go. They just feigned shock and outrage.

>>67237077
Can you or any other country conducting imperialistic policy be trusted? The problem here is what from your point of view Russian actions are seen as evil while from Russian point of view your actions are evil. Almost everyone is biased when it comes to this.

>>67237120
What states are you even talking about? Baltics already left "russian sphere of influence" or did you miss it?

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soon

>>67237120
Basically this. The US just shouldnt try to destabilize and influence countries in Russian sphere (esp. Belarus).

>>67237042
>Memes instead of arguments

Wow, you sure convinced a lot of people.

The problem with being dishonorable, untrustworthy scumbags that nobody's going to trust you, ever. You'll invade whoever you want for whatever reason you want and deny it ever happened.

>>67237189
I wish but he has access to the best medicine unlike the average Russian.

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>>67235223

I unironically hope to God he will.

>>67237234
Yeah I know... But he must be quite stressed all the time, that can't be good for your health

>>67237189

he is young as fuck.

>>67237225
What memes? I literally used your logic as an argument to absurdity. I understand that you can't see the difference between Crimea and Finland but it doesn't mean that there is none.

>>67237225
>russian submarine

>>67235223
I hope.

>“Many countries are not paying their fair share. That means we are protecting them, giving them military protection,” Mr. Trump told an a crowd of about 650 people at the Racine Civic Center. “They’re ripping off the United States. And you know what we do? Nothing. Either they have to pay up for past deficiencies or they have to get out. And if it breaks up NATO, it breaks up NATO.”

>>67233983
who cares lol

>>67236848
>install puppet president
>local people get tired of this bullshit
>call it a coup
>invade
It's not a new course of actions. Invasions are always """justified""" by some bullshit like that. That's not sopping it from being an invasion.
Also, you know what, ukraine could probably be still under russian influence if the puppet president wasn't a fucking DUMB IDIOT EX-CON.

>>67234030
We should care.
Estonia is both strategically important, and an actually great country unlike the other shit holes we have been protecting in the middle east.

R.I.P. Estonia

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I'm going to Estonia before Trump is inaugurated and before they close Marks&Spencer to buy all the cheap goodies.

>>67237518
>strategically important

Nope. There are only 500k ethnic Estonians in existence. They are the memest of meme ethnicities and their country's location is of no significance.

>>67237225
And you still cannot find that russian submarine.

>>67237468
>Russia install government by legal means
>not ok
>USA&EU install government by unconstitutional coup
>ok

>>67237640
That's what you don't get.
At least yushenko and poroshenko aren't ex-cons.
Also, they aren't as corrupt as yanukovish and his team. That stupid idiot just couldn't stop.

>>67237691
>At least yushenko and poroshenko aren't ex-cons.
>Also, they aren't as corrupt
+15 grivnas

>>67237640
>unconstitutional coup
Yeah, right, whatever doesn't suit russian view is unconstitutional.
>>67237718
Nice argument here, idiot.

>>67237468
He wasnt obviously pro Russian; in fact he tried to get benefits from both sides but failed miserably. And yes, it was a coup (overwise what else?). I'm not trying to morally justify what happened; as I already said it 100 times, I'm just assuming the true reasons which are (or can) be behind things.

>>67237774
Jesus, you're acting so edgy tho I get that you just cant be unbiased regarding this.

>>67236460
Which minorities are you taking about? Watch less TV. The reason of invading Georgia was shelling of our peacekeepers in Tskhinvali.

>>67237774
i'm joking. i actually love Ukraine and hate russian subhumans.

PRAISE PUTIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN8ifx6r3W8

>>67233983
Estonia does spend 2% though

>>67237819
>The reason of invading Georgia was shelling of our peacekeepers in Tskhinvali.
Again no. The real reason was the attack against Russian satellite, SO.

>>67237819
>Tskhinvali
Its Thskhinval, Gogi.

>>67236848
>coup

>>67237778
>He wasnt obviously pro Russian
Is this a joke?
>he tried to get benefits from both sides but failed miserably
Agree.
>And yes, it was a coup (overwise what else?)
>is the illegal and overt seizure of a state by the military or other elites within the state apparatus
There are similarities, yes, but, president left the country without any notice. And elected parliament voted to kick him out of presidency following by re-elections. No military leaders were capturing anything. It's not a coup. What happened in turkey a few month ago was a dictionary definition of coup. While of course western leaders used the situation, as did the russians to both push their agendas, it wasn't a coup.

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>>67236460
More like muh falling ratings. Ukraine deposed a pro-Putin president that he invested a lot of money into, his prestige in Russia would crumble if he didn't do something about it. And Russia's entire political system stands on the shoulders of Putin's personal prestige. If he wasn't there his entire ruling party would currently be dangling from lamp posts.
So he sabotaged the new Ukrainian regime by starting a civil war and payed lip service to revanchist imperialists by annexing Crimea. Antagonising western countries also gave him an easy way to boost his power with "whole world hates us all and who want me to step down are western agents" rhetoric. It wasn't about some minority, it was about preserving his personal power at any cost.

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>>67237309
It must've had some state of art stealth tech

>>67237774
>Constitution of Ukraine
>Russian view
okay

>>67234710
Go and fuck your sister, Aragorn.

>>67237961
>other elites within the state apparatus
This is exactly what happened.
>There are similarities
If not a coup what else? He left the country but just without any reasons?
>Is this a joke?
Why should we think of him as being pro Russian if he almost signed EU association agreement?

>>67238073
>This is exactly what happened.
I don't think you know the definition of the word seized.
>If not a coup what else? He left the country but just without any reasons?
Yes he did. This can be swayed both ways. Constitution doesn't have a rule about what to do if president just flew away on his private helicopter. That makes it unconstitutional I guess. But it's just a bullshit excuse because parliament was elected one and had the power to vote.
>he almost signed EU association agreement?
Wasn't this the WHOLE point of euromaidan that he decided NOT to sign. At this point people realised that he's just buying time and not going to sign anything cause he went to russia asking $15mil and to join trade union with them.

Hey Americans can we finally take back Wilno and Lwów ?

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>>67233983
i hope Russia takes us after they are done with the baltics

>>67238160
Yea, but first you must travel to Moskau and shout DOKDO JE SRBIJA

>>67238145
It is hard to be Ukrainian President, any helicopter flight may sweep you from your seat...
Still good riddance, but Poroshenko not any better

>>67238180
We done with getting new clay for now, it is just uneconomical.
But you can join in some military alliance with us, like CSTO, and we will taught you about dealing with jihadis hard way.

>>67238160
>Hey Americans can we finally take back Wilno and Lwów ?

I never understood what good these cities, even my favorite great writer Stanisław Lem left this scumtown.

Now it is 70% filled with the poor rural racists. If these towns will be yours, I hope you will be drop the shame, which lies on them.

>>67233983
I wonder how can such uneducated people take positions of such importance, then again, it is America.

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>>67234113
fuck off ryssä

>>67234294
fuck off fatty

>>67234330
>40% russians
good one

>>67235107
estonia pays the NATO requirement

>>67237865
this

PS, eastern ukraine is bolshevik invention

>>67238446
>PS, eastern ukraine is bolshevik invention
>Ukraine and bolsheviks is German invention

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>>67238486
the eternal kraut

>>67236566
>I really enjoyed this book. It was the first alternate history book I had ever read. As a history buff, I found it entirely plausible. The Isolationist factions in the U.S. at the time were doing a very good job at keeping America out of 'Europe's War'. If Germany had not declared war on the U.S., we very well could have continued to support the British and the Russians with what material we could send, but our military force would have been centered on Japan as fighting a one front war is much easier than fighting on two fronts. Some of the characters were a two-dimensional in their make-up, but for the most part believable in composition. This wasn't heavy reading, by any means, just an enjoyable story for those of us that like to think 'what if?'. The only down-side to '1945' is after the fast pace at the end of the book, there's NO SEQUEL! Give us a break, the story was left hanging in mid-air. What happen's next? Do the surviving Nazi commandos get out of the country or do they have to set down in the mountains to be possibly helped by Charles Lindberg and sympathizers from the German-American Bund? Does former-Sergeant York hunt them down with the help from the gang from the VFW hall and then have a final sniper-on-sniper confrontation with Skorzeny? Will the A-bomb fall into Hitler's hands? What, check back with us about five years later to find the answer to these and other questions? Throw us a line guys! Where's the next one?

>>67238310
no please make us a puppet state.
kill our politicians

>>67233983
this guy also loves atatürk, some were saying that he try to push for a kemalist coup/takeover

>>67238651
Erdogan needs to go though.

>>67238514
Actually the krauts involvement is much bigger then just Marx and Engels. German intelligence were nurturing Lenin and give safe haven, money and weapons for Bolsheviks.

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>>67238687
it's a bit ironic that they funded these bolsheviks to collapse russian empire, but then it leads to their downfall

>>67238743
Kraut existence steps
1.destroy everything
2.obliterate himself

>>67238868
lel this must actually be true
in fact it is still happening today

what happened to them to make them hate themselves so much?

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>>67238180

Same

>>67233983
>"Oh no! America isn't defending Estonia. Sorry Eesti, looks like you're going to be annexed... Yup, nothing we could do to stop big mean Russia. Good bye Estonia!" - Euros right now.
If any of you actually gave a shit you would be jumping to their aid if Russia invaded, but then again I guess you all have a good history of backstabbing each other.

>>67239122
Well, it's not like you didn't try to be everyone's dad, now bear with your spoiled children. Hopefully they will undergo a strict diet now.

>>67239122
Pooland had a survey in which an overwhelming majority said they would fight for the Baltics

>>67239472
Somehow I'm not surprised. UK and Poland always seem to be the only allies worthwhile in all of the EU.

>>67239472
What is the default mindset of Balkans? Do they feel three-pronged-squeezed between degenerate Europe, Communist threat from Mother Russia and Muslim enrichment from south?
And they still find the time to find between themselves?

>>67239589
>to fight between themselves
Fixed.

>>67239559
>UK
worthwhile to the US maybe, but when it comes to the rest of Euros the UK has always done all they could to sabotage them, there is a reason De Gaulle did not want them in the EU

>>67239589
>>67239589
>between degenerate Europe
I dont think the general populace cares about pol/int memes
>Communist threat from Mother Russia
they fear Russia and frankly are a bit irrational about it, as long as NATO exists there is no threat to them, and frankly even if NATO didn't exist Russia wouldn't risk invading Baltics, there is not much to gain there and a lot to lose
> Muslim enrichment from south?
"refugees flock to the rich western euro countries, Baltics are safe from that encroachment

>>67239721
>I dont think the general populace cares about pol/int memes
Of course I'm not talking about REEEEing about white privilege, I'm talking more about hating thy neighbor, think a South Vs. North hillbilly mentality in the US. "Those Germans need Jesus" or something.

>refugees flock to the rich western euro countries
For now. Bulgarians seemed pretty pissed to me when I spoke to some last year, not sure how it is nowadays.

>>67236848
Oh boy I wonder what will happen when kr*mlin decides funland has dropped from it's sphere of influence.

>>67240030
Finland isnt russian sphere.

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>>67234710
Like you protected Bolan right?
Several times you and your buddy France protected Bolan.:D

>>67240030
>>67240081
IT HAS BEGUN

>>67237309
>>67237604
It ran aground. The crew probably had too much vodka.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_on_the_rocks

>>67236023
>Trump is supposed to be against globalization and interventionism.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
He literally is part of the 1%. He was born into it and he'll die out of it. Why would he bother changing things?

>>67237120
If those states have russian military bases and could host "defensive" NATO missile systems, yes.

>>67237335
The US would lose dozens of billions in defense contracts. It will never happen. Although I hope he pressures Europe enough to increase military spending.

>>67240030
It hasn't been there since 1917

>>67233983
>Estonia
No such thing.

>>67237691
>poroshenko
Only in the "He пoймaн нe вop" sense

>>67240498
>It ran aground. The crew probably had too much vodka.
You'd be a nuclear wasteland by now in this case

>>67240805
Why waste nukes? three drunken sailors can literally conquer Sweden.

>>67240876
I meant reactor leakage

SUICIDE WATCH

>>67240849
>>67240849
>>67240849
>>67240849
>>67240849

First of all, Estonia has been a good NATO ally, we spend our 2%, we've sent our guys to missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, and if that doesn't matter to the US, then fuck it, NATO is dead. We really dont expect any help from Finland, since they have a history of selling us out. UK and Poles are more trustworthy desu.

Second of all, unlike the other balts, we've always had conscription, most of Estonian men know guerilla warfare and survival in the wilderness. The only option for russkis to attack and hold Estonia would be to nuke it to the ground, but in that case Russia would kill the 26% ethnic russian minority aswell. Would the Russian people really support a Putin who would kill 300 000 Russians for luls?

Chill the fuck out, everything will be okay, and if not, i will be hanging out in the dense woods with assault rifles and canned foods.

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>>67242484
>Second of all, unlike the other balts, we've always had conscription, most of Estonian men know guerilla warfare and survival in the wilderness.

>>67233983
I really hope this fag isn't made Secretary of State like some are suggesting.

Putin isn't going to invade the Balts so it's a stupid question though.

Nothing will happen, everyone chill out

>>67242484
> Second of all, unlike the other balts, we've always had conscription,
But Lithuania has it too, don't they?

>>67233983

>Places Americans may not know about

Even Americans think Americans are stupid

>>67242614
This is a Lithuanian army picture . Estonians made a response to this btw with our soldiers laughing.

>>67242838

Nope, and they posted pictures of crying men when their government tried to re-instate conscription.

>>67233983
Estonia is in Nato and follows the 2% rule.

>>67242484
>We really dont expect any help from Finland, since they have a history of selling us out.
What do you mean? Finns helped Estonia in your war of independence. Do you think Finland should have protected Estonia in WW2 while at the same time fighting our own war?

>>67244773

Nah, but you shouldn't have deported Estonians (even the guys who joined to fight alongside you in your Winter War) to the USSR to find their certain deaths in labour camps.

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>>67245563
As far as I know, they voluntarily returned to Estonia to continue the fight against the soviets