Are Eastern Europeans getting nervous?

about what

>>67193931
>le Trump is going to let Russia annex half of Europe maymay
fucking kill yourself

>>67193931
not really

>>67193951
Trump said he wanted to reduce NATO and perhaps even abolish it

>>67193951
About the fact that you're about to become greater Russia?

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>First slavs in the White House are YUGOS
>V4's and Russians on suicide watch

>>67193931
Why? Trump was supported by all our countries, excluding Ukraine (ie. he was supported by all actual countries in the region).

>>67193931

>trumps wives are from ex yugo countries

nah

>>67194133
aren't you worried that Trump is not very enthusiastic about NATO and seems to want good relations with Putin?

>>67194060
nope, the election's over, you don't have to shill anymore.

>>67194060

Yeah, he'll reduce those that don't pay fees or send troops to NATO stuff. He lauded Poland at the other hand.

You're an ignoramus if you think Killary Clitdong would be better. Democraps in general are spineless.

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>>67194133
> Trump was supported by all our countries
Yeah, with words. Nice and cheap words.

Pls move CD Projekt Red to Australia - they'll be safe here.

>>67194070
I wouldn't mind

>>67194060
Good, fuck NATO

>>67193931
why? more than 90% of bulgarians support trump

>>67194212
Visa free travel and living in Australia for Poles and CDP is yours

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Us Balts are Northern European.

our relation with putler is good
its you, politically correct bullshitters shitting on russia who should be worried
we will guide them to you happily

>>67194263
no need to worry then ;^)

>>67194412
>literally surrounded by slavshits
JUST

>>67194474
t. baltoslavshit

>>67194060
>Shilling for NATO and Clinton to a Serb
Idiot

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>>67194683
>it's a slavshi, who speaks the most disgusting language in Europe, replies to me episode

>Are Eastern Europeans getting nervous?

lel trump would get 75% in Poland if you believe polls

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>>67194880
>lithuanian
>real language
pic one

>>67193931
Didn't Trump just say that he wants the cunts that payed less for their military than they were supposed to according to NATO to take responsibility? If that's the case, then we're fine.

>>67194984
nah, i'll pick both. Meanwhile, I will also try to contain the vomit that your vomit-inducing language induced.

>>67193931
Yes

>>67193951
Ofc, the little sister of russia isn't afraid.
Maybe it's time to start up your greater serbia plans again?

>>67194245
around 80% of bulgarians who voted also support a bydlo incarnate's retarded referendum without even knowing what they're voting for, so we aren't a good example.

Eastern Europeans probably no
We Central Europeans are

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>>67194152
>>67193931
>>67194060
thy time is over, Merkel.

>>67195256
Not yet but claiming Republika Srpska would be good for a start

>>67194165
3 states are still counting votes.

>>67194060

Oh no, the organization that bombed my country is going to become weaker! Whatever will I do?

>>67195256

t. Tonibler Hon Hon

>>67195476
It's actually over. I imagine hillary is having a nervous breakdown or something

Her entire life's work came to nothin

>>67195457
Good luck. Can't wait to shoot some serbs.

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>>67194060
It was all a bunch of hot air to get people to spend the agreed upon amount

>>67195583
>Oh no, the organization that bombed my country is going to become weaker! Whatever will I do?

invade Kosovo?

>>67194474
Sucks, doesn't it?

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>>67193931
Nope.

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>>67195659

>invade Kosovo

That makes no sense. How can I invade a part of my own country?

>>67195654
>Germany
>1.18

No wonder they use brooms as the form of transportation

>>67195632
yeah, I know he is now President Elect, but the final result in the E.C. hasn't been declared (the last time I heard).
>(it appears) she didn't prepare a concession–speech
>they needed to move her supporters out of the center by 2:00 a.m. Eastern standard time
>she thought she had states certain to vote for her (so she didn't campaign there) that went red.

what arrogant urban–liberal complacency.

>>67195698
back the fuck off??!?!
kosova is my gf

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>>67196040
not for long

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>>67196152
silly

Remember when western Europe proudly stood by and did nothing when everyone was getting invaded and annexed on the eve of WWII? Why would things be different now?

>>67196152
>Serbs claim Hague as ancient holy Serb land.

>>67194060
only if you're planning to keep benefiting at the expense of the American taxpayer

>>67194060
>he says to a serb

>>67196392
This
Pull your damn weight Europe.

>>67196261
Remember when Europe stood by while Serbia was invading Croatia and Bosnia, commiting mass murders od civillians in the 90s. Remember when no one cares or learns any of this in schools?

>>67196553

Serbia didn't invade anything.

Get your facts straight, Tonibler.

Local Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia wanted to secede and join up with Serbia. That's it.

>>67196553
Why do we let Muslims post here?

>>67194196
polish slavshit so nervous

so obvious

hahahahahah

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>>67195092
>vomit-inducing language
your ancestors who polonized themselves were of different opinion :^)

>>67196553
Well tbqh Serbia was an old war ally.

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worried?

WORRIED?

>>67194870
>>67195583
>>67196402
I meant eastern europe in general
I am well aware that serbia isn't really found of NATO

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>>67195775
And you are in a position to make fun of us Mr. <1%?

What I find most surprising is that even of the Baltic states that always shit their pants over Russia only Estonia spends the required amount.

>>67193931
No Trump likes us.

Plus his wife is from Yugoslavia.

Plus we have nothing against Russia and we'd be okay with them annexing us.

In fact there'd be celebrations.

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>>67193931
We're used to it desu.

It wasn't that bad for most people. Only for those who couldn't keep their opinions for themselves. You could advance in career if you expressed agreement with fraternal help of the Red Army.

Shut up and keep up was the motto.

>>67197271

>Plus we have nothing against Russia and we'd be okay with them annexing us.

Hell no.

My great-grandmother remembers how their soldiers acted when they arrived in the capital.

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>>67193931
nah

>>67197313
I bet she does.

>>67197313
>my great-grandmother remembers.

That fact that she's still alive makes you a jew.

GTFO from my country scum.

>>67197271
>Plus we have nothing against Russia and we'd be okay with them annexing us.
The only reason why we have nice relations is because we are far from each other tbqh

>>67193931
>>67197251
i always hated NATO so i dont give a shit
plus serbs are overreacting with trump being good for them since all presidents change their behaviour once they're in office. just look at """peacefull""" obama. everyone thought things will go better and then he bombed 7 countries.

>>67197271
dont you guys want to join EU eventually?

>>67197271
>Plus we have nothing against Russia and we'd be okay with them annexing us.
Maybe you do.
I like Russia, but i'm not a russiaboo cuck.

Did you know Trump bought that bombed out central building in belgrade, serbia

>>67197400
Only for money. They would be worse saboteurs than Hungary and Poland.

>>67197376

Ma jes kurac Jevrej.

Rusi su silovali i to ti je cinjenica.

Voli ih ti koliko hoces, ali nemoj da ignorises cinjenice.

>>67197400
The EU is a carrot on a stick that the Serbian people are pretty tired of.
However, almost all political parties are pro EU.

>>67197389
well, Croatia is in no real danger to be annexed by Russia, is it?
I was thinking more of the baltic states and poland beeing concerned

>>67197400

Politicians want to, because more money for them to steal from various funds.

Common people don't.

We won't join, in the end. There's nothing in it for us.

I don't know why should we annex somebody. We're not in a good shape economically to bring prosperity to other countries.
Ukraine and specifically Crimea was one of the few places in Europe that's even more poor than Russia, so they actually benefited from annexing and did it willingly.

>>67197313

>Implying Russia would need soldiers to annex us.

They can basically send any representative and say you're a part of Russia now and nobody would object.

I mean it can't be worse, can it ?

>>67197400
Lmao our entire charade with the EU is just that.
A charade.

One day we have exercise with NATO other day with Russia.

One day we sign an agreement with EU, the other an agreement with EAEU.
We have free trade with almost all of their members and visa free travel to them.

There is no way to get into EU without recognizing Kosovo, which would be political suicide here.

Why do you think we're selling all our factories to China and not the EU ?


>>67197463
I tebe ce, dace bog.

>>67197462
why? don't all the slavic people have pretty much the same mentality?

>>67197520
Joining the EU would be beneficial, but the political parties have embezzled too much money that they lost all credibility with the people, and they'll probably embezzle EU money even if we got in.

>>67197483
its not but i would rather be annexed by russia than usa or germany, if i had a choice i would prefer some form of yugoslav states together, balanced between russia and west

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>>67197483
>annexed by Russia
What is this annexing meme? If Russia was so keen on annexing it has plenty of countries it could have annexed in the last 20 years but didn't. Ukraine got shafted becouse the whole country was flipflopping for the past decade uncertain if it wants to be eastern or western with it's politicians all being corrupt puppets for the highest bidder.

>>67197520
>Common people don't.
why not, if i might ask?
I am sure a membership in EU would increase the average living standards in Serbia, plus the EU could pressure your political class into fighting corruption

>>67197562

>I mean it can't be worse, can it ?

Don't tempt fate, Marko.

>>67197580

Beneficial in what way? One of their conditions, for certain, is us giving up any and all claims on Kosovo. The people, regardless the shithole they live in, just won't accept being bullied like that.

We're stubborn to a fault.

>>67197563
Serbs hate you.
There's a saying.
>Why are you looking at me like i'm a German.
It's used when you give someone a death stare.

Memories of the war and the bombings will not go away soon. Even i remember the bombs, the air raid sirens...
However i'm more pragmatic in politics, but you certainly haven't made any friends for 1914, and 1941, and 1999.
The US and France especially for 1999.

>>67197533
You think that Russians want their empire back because they want to see their subjects prosper? Average Russians want to live in a country that's powerful and feared by its enemies.

This is more delusional than American belief that they're bringing freedumbs and democracy by invading Iraq.

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>>67193931
Why?
We're not the ones with 3 million ISIS and Boko Haram militants in their countries.

In fact, It'd be pretty nice if we're not called to fight for you socialist cucklords.

>serbians swarm into every thread about Russia

I've seen this episode before

>>67197628
I dont believe it either, but as far as I know a lot of eastern europeans are nervous about russian agressions

>>67197663
Kosovo was forcibly taken, and we can only bargain for the North now, and an extraterritorial status of our cultural heritage.
But yes, most people would not accept it.
>>67197692
The thread is not about Russia.

>>67197648

>why not, if i might ask?

Because this is the same group of people who vilified Serbs throughout the '90s and '00s.

We tend to hold grudges for a long, long time.

And also, they want to take away a part of our country and give it to terrorists and have us admit that we were in the wrong for killing terrorists in the first place. It's simply too preposterous, even for our corrupt thieving politicians. It's not just political suicide, it's quite possible the equivalent of signing your own death sentence.

>>67197669
were we even that strongly invovled in the kosovo-crisis?

>>67197678
you have 1 million turks and gypsies

>>67197717
Not here, but Poles and Balts are really nervous. Czechs also a bit and Hungarians are concerned because of their history (1944 and 1956).

>>67197766
They've been here for around 500 years longer than you've had a country. Haven't started shit yet.

Meanwhile your Albanians are rearing to cut your heads off. Can't wait for it desu.

>>67197692
Did you say Russia??? :DDD

>>67193931
You're the one who should be afraid here with your 1.2% defense budget.
>implying we won't join Russia

>>67197727
I am not too familiar with that war, since it happend before i began to follow politics, but isn't it true that serbs commited a lot of war crimes and tried to genocide their people?

>>67197805
albos were here before your 500 years they are autochtonous

>>67197756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoQEjTlW3cQ
Enough for us to nickname your chancellor a faggot.
However the intervention was not as popular in the German public, they still went through with it.
And as my great grandfather said to his neighbor with me present.
Look at him, there hasn't been a male generation of this family that didn't witness German aggression as a child.
He was 4 when WW1 erupted. Grandpa was 7 when the Germans attacked Yugoslavia, and i was barely 4 during the bombing.

>>67197859
I am sorry to hear that, but we are the good guys nowadays.
And we had to participate in the kosovo war because we are members of NATO

>>67197672
>Average Russians want to live in a country that's powerful and feared by its enemies.
bullshit. average russians wants higher salaries, lower prices and better infrastracture in the country.

>>67197672
>Russians want their empire back
That's just not true, Russia is mentally keen to isolationism now, but we just have no economic power to fuck off from this earth and be alone.

>>67197920
Average Russians WANT to suffer and die for glory of the Motherland.

>>67197915
fuck serbs they bring asiatic influence, russians and chinese and other subhumans to a default western area (balkan). all out of butthurt. bombs werent enough

>>67193931
Yes, but not because of what you think, mostly because the Clinton Foundation now operating without the Presidential Seal so to speak will do even shadier and worse shit in Eastern Europe.

And if America abandons NATO, there will probably be really bad shit like the EU army replacing it, and creating a fascist state on its own, not just an American satellite.

I think we're too far for Russia to give a shit about, Serbia and Montenegro on the other hand, there might be some significant power struggles, and of course, getting rid of your EU puppet will be good, but what he'll be replaced with... who the fuck knows.

In any case, the problem is that we're too far from the positive influence this might cause, and the negative influence always travels farther...

>>67197956
kys

>>67197823

>war crimes

How can there be war crimes when there hasn't been a war?

>tried to genocide their people

That's horseshit and typical propaganda.

Look, here's how it all went down.

Back in WW2, a lot of Serbs were displaced from Kosovo and Albanians got brought in to replace them. After WW2, Tito let them stay there because ultimately that guy didn't give a shit about Serbia in the long run. So they stayed there and bred for several decades, while Serbs were reluctant about coming back to Kosovo. They even had autonomy to some degree, which didn't help things either.

Then, and this is after Tito died, they decided they want to secede. Not only is it against our constitution, it's fucking without precedent given that Serbs lived there for much longer and built up the place.

So they formed a terrorist organization that the West calls KLA. KLA got its funding through white slavery/sex slavery trafficking and drugs and organ black market shit. There's a house in Kosovo called the Yellow House, notorious as a location where people were brought and had their organs harvested while they were still alive. This is what the terrorists did.

The police tried fighting them, but the Albanian civilian population kept helping the terrorists so it was going nowhere. The police force wasn't equipped to handle it. So the army got sent in and did what armies generally do: kill.

They killed terrorists. They killed those who helped them and yes they killed some innocents in the process because revenge killing is a big thing in the Balkans and we bear grudges like no other.

Then the KLA/Albanians realized they can't actually stand a chance against the regular army so they cried so hard the USA/NATO decided they need a distraction from whatever shit was going on with them so we got hit hard for it.

There was no genocide though. It's just typical propaganda spouted by idiots. If there was a genocide or an attempt at one, there wouldn't have been so many Albs living.

>>67197915
Legally no, politically yes. And i understand that. I personally don't hold a grudge.
>>67197961
The Chinese are coming to work with the EU you dingus. They're just taking the Greece-Your Cunt- Serbia-Hungary route.

>>67197956
nice projecting

>>67198020
>Serbs were reluctant about coming back to Kosovo
No, it was legally not possible to buy land that was given out by the Yugoslav government.

>>67197648
>plus the EU could pressure your political class into fighting corruption
That's an extremely naive way of looking at things.

>>67198020
You forgot to mention the background for this (not just drug/organ trafficking) - the taking of the Trepca mine and splitting Kosovo into various influence zones based on natural resources. And of course the making of the Bondsteel base. They really fucked you over with all that.

>>67197563
>language family
>same mentality
Nope.
It's homo sovieticus mentality you are thinking about.

>>67196553
who gives a damn about croats and bosnians?

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>>67197915
>we are the good guys
Hooooo boy.

>>67198020
>So they formed a terrorist organization that the West calls KLA. KLA got its funding through white slavery/sex slavery trafficking and drugs and organ black market shit. There's a house in Kosovo called the Yellow House, notorious as a location where people were brought and had their organs harvested while they were still alive. This is what the terrorists did.
Do you have any sources on that? Sounds like propaganda to me

>They killed terrorists. They killed those who helped them and yes they killed some innocents in the process because revenge killing is a big thing in the Balkans and we bear grudges like no other.
Then dont you think it is a good thing that NATO intervented. Otherwise, even more innocent people would have died

>>67197785
>Hungarians are concerned
Isn't Orban a Trump-like guy that is also favorable disposed to Putin?
If they really were that concerned about Russia he wouldn't win elections.

>>67198015
>>67198041
Stalin is loved because he made you feel great. Whole world trembled before Russia and Russians trembled before him.

Russians are poorer because of sanctions, but Putin's popularity is soaring because you see him as a protector from degenerate West.

>>67193931
They should be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl74j8-vkb8

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>its another "russian tries to convince you that russians aren't expansionists" episode

>>67198152
>Stalin is loved
stopped reading there

I think it's time that we start talking turkey here - Which eastern Europeans are worth saving?

Maybe I'm biased but I definitively think Finland and Estonia both have a place in Europe. Latvia is fucked, we're too late and we can't save them. Hungary is based, we must include them. Poland is sort of meh, nobody really wants them around but hearing them whine about how we abandoned them again is worse than just pretending they're """central""" europeans. Everyone else - Fuck 'em.

>>67198120

>Do you have any sources on that? Sounds like propaganda to me

I can't offer you any English-speaking source because they all pretend the KLA did nothing wrong and have absolved them of all crimes.

It's the nature of conflicts. There's always only one side in the wrong and we were the default for it since the stuff in the early '90s.

>Then dont you think it is a good thing that NATO intervented. Otherwise, even more innocent people would have died

No, not really. They killed terrorists. Sure, innocents died, but it helped prevent more of our own getting killed. Do you honestly expect me to feel empathy for people who were trying to steal a piece of my country right from under us?

>>67198074

>You forgot to mention the background for this (not just drug/organ trafficking) - the taking of the Trepca mine and splitting Kosovo into various influence zones based on natural resources. And of course the making of the Bondsteel base. They really fucked you over with all that.

Ran out of space for the post, but yep, that too.

Doesn't Biden's son, or some other family member, own that one huge company in Kosovo now?

>>67198171
EU is expansionist, not Russia

>>67198130
They were pretty pissed off about Russian revisionism about 1956 revolution. Average Hungarians dislike Russia.

Slovaks are more pro-Russian, which is also determined by history.

>>67198120
>Do you have any sources on that? Sounds like propaganda to me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

>>67198210
>Do you honestly expect me to feel empathy for people who were trying to steal a piece of my country right from under us?
No, but I expect you to feel sympathy for civilians that got caught up in crossfire

>>67198176
You are in a minority.

>>67198120
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

Also, Hashim Thaci is a drug lord.
They killed everyone.
Serbs, Gypsies, Goranis, Albanians who would not comply.

The case of Ramush Haradinaj was stopped because witnesses refused to testify.... after some witnesses started dying in car accidents.

>>67198120
fuck off retard, you dont know what youre talking about

>>67197823
they did
things weren't that bad before a retard called milosevic came in power and did a shitton of war crimes and servs today still lick his dead ass

>>67193931
no, people in the west are mistaken
we don't hate russia
and we are not afraid of 'russian invasion'

>>67197785
>Poles
>le Poles are so afraid of ebil ruskies amirite? xDD

kill yourself slow-vak everyone knows if Russia wanted to invade us they would do it already and our great allies would do fuck all as usual

>>67198120
>he thinks he knows what propaganda sounds like

>>67198278
he's right about it

>>67198288
Wow I didnt expect that from you, what a suprise

>Russia
>annexing anyone
Why would they want to do that?

>>67198253
stalin is loved only by edgy teenagers who think it's cool to like what is oficially disliked

>>67198246

Well, I don't.

But if you gave a shit about that, you would side with us as Albanians predominantly targeted civilians who can't fight against them.

Our army at least had them as the occasional collateral damage rather than their main target.

And nowadays Albanians are terrorizing the few remaining Serbs in Kosovo, along with trying to eradicate other ethnicities from it or force them to declare themselves as Albanians in census. See the Goranci for that, a minor Serb group of muslims who always sided with us in these kinds of things, but who are now getting harassed by the Albanians running the terrorist state of Kosovo.

>>67198309
What about those militias preparing for invasion and your goverment ranting about Smolensk?

>>67198226
it sounds as if there were only a handful of victims.
Which doesn't make those deeds any more despicable, but it sounds as if those were more like isolated incidents

>>67198212
What the fuck? We haven't been at war for 200 years. You haven't been without war for 20 minutes.

>>67198330
expect what? I'm saying it bold, you committed a lot of war crimes

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>>67198381

How can there be war crimes when there hasn't been a war?

>>67198381
t. Literal Albanian

>>67198372
What fucking militias?

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>>67198378

>>67198373
That is the official story. There are many victims, but the scary part is that everybody knows about them and nobody cares. Research and come back to talk
>>67198381
Yes you are so bold

>>67198378
The EU uses jewish tactics to gain power. Germans learned from the best.

>>67198431
Oh wait, you don't know what expansionist means? Sorry, I forget Russians aren't that good at English.

>>67198323
i think i kinda do
this sounds exactly like the dead babies in incubators during the first iraq war

>>67198360
>Well, I don't.
It pains me to hear that you have no empathy for your former countrymen. I can only hope that one day, both sides will be able to overcome this hatred.

>But if you gave a shit about that, you would side with us as Albanians predominantly targeted civilians who can't fight against them.
As I said, I am unfortunately not too familiar with the conflict, but ideally, civilian deaths on both sides should be prevented

>>67198355
Because Russia is the evil boogieman. The countries that fear Russia the most are actually the ones that historically have never fought against them. And the most comical fear is the one showcased by the average American that's so brainwashed into it that it turned into respect.

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>>67198373
>We haven't been at war for 200 years.
>EU
>France is in EU
>France sent troops to Africa again this summer
>Germany helped them as well

Off the top of my head, my Somali friend. I would've thought you knew about the happenings in your own continent.

>>67198414
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/27/europe/poland-militias-russia-tension/

There is at least one in each voivodeship

>>67198381
Yes, like that guy who refused to turn himself in to the police and got his entire family killed in a the crossfire when the police stormed the building after 3 days of asking him to surrender.

>>67198405
thousands of people fighting each other doesn't count as war
k

>>67198412
t. diaspora

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>>67198358
t.applefag
don't take him seriously guys

>>67198212
>the EU wants to create a peaceful area of co-operation
>russia wants to take over countries because it was muh land 100 years ago
thanks for proving me right though ivan

>>67198469
>i think i kinda do
no you dont. to know propaganda you have to be the target of propaganda. like we serbs were during the 90s. we were reading the propaganda in the papers and seeing the different reality with our own eyes. all you have is the media

>>67198469

How do you exactly expect me to develop empathy when people keep shitting down my country's throat while trying to convince us it's for our own good and that it's vanilla flavored?

How do you expect me to have any sort of empathy when time after time Albanians all over the world say how good it would be to kill Serbs? Hell, just look at that recent football match with Croatia and some faggots from Kosovo.

Both sides clamored for the killing of Serbs, but barely got a slap on the wrist and nothing more.

It's the classic of self-fulfilling prophecy: you keep telling people they're monsters, they commit war crimes and genocide and ethnic cleansing and then one day you'll act surprised when said people don't give a fuck anymore and actually commit themselves as a whole to fitting that bigoted view.

>>67198511

Terrorists are terrorists. They're roaches, to be put down.

That's not war. That's called house cleaning.

>>67197269
Must be nice to live on an island with nothing worth fighting for.

>>67198500
>one in each voivodeship
>yet mentions only Warsaw
>no one here even heard about any militias

kill yourself

>>67198525
>russia wants to take over countries
said who? EU's propagandists?
is it Russia who expanded last 30 years?

Only by looking at threads like these you can see there are going to be several wars in Europe. World order is crumbling and there are always major wars when that happens.

>>67198599
>Terrorists are terrorists.
that's exactly what you're doing in kosovo

>>67198525
Remember maidan, so peaceful

>>67198373
Tip of the iceberg.

>>67198605
I would fucking die for Björk.

>>67198513
you are just proving my point

>>67198599
>Hell, just look at that recent football match with Croatia and some faggots from Kosovo.
need I remind you what you did in the previous match?

>>67198617
On przecież mówi o Obronie terytorialnej matołku.

>>67198638

What the fuck are you talking about?

Last I recall no one in Serbia formed a terrorist organization and tried to steal a piece of Albania's territory.

Whereas your people lived in Kosovo for the past 50 years undisturbed and the first chance you got, you started killing and terrorizing civilians because you want to make some twisted dream of a greater Albania come true.

>>67197389
This

>>67198599
well, somebody has to make the first step.
as you are saying, hatred breeds only more hatred. I think somebody has to reach out to the people that hate him. Love your enemy, isn't that what Jesus teaches us?

>>67198373
You do realise that EU investigation of Hasim Thaci the president of "kosovo" has been halted simply because he became a president.

Only reason it was halted.

Organ theft in Kosovo still happens, they just can't investigate it because lol, the guy organizing it is now the president.

>>67198625
nah, no one here really wants war, we even put an end to our claims in kosovo officially
only servfaggots can't let it go

>>67198674
no you

>>67198638
>police forces, no military until nato got involved, and no paramilitary brigades
>terrorists

>guerrilla fighters who got a bunch of weapons when the albanian government collapsed
>a lot of which were mafia and connected to organized crime
>not terrorists

The Kosovo situation is not comparable to Bosnia.

>>67198623
Why can't you accept that small countries can have their own agancy too? It's not only about schemes of superpowers.

All countries that joined the EU did so only after successful referendums. Norwegians and the Swiss rejected it and the British decided to quit.

Meanwhile Czechoslovakia joined Warsaw Pact only after communist coup.

>>67198623
why don't you join the EU then if you're so against imperialism

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>>67198617
>no one here even heard about any militias

>>67198700
>having a gov post and committing crimes doesn't make you a terrorist

>>67198706
>Love your enemy, isn't that what Jesus teaches us?
Proclaim your love for russia

>>67198706

>well, somebody has to make the first step.

Yeah, no. Fuck that shit.

That first step you're talking about literally would require for us to apologize and feel guilty about things we never did or even worse to apologize for killing terrorists and those who helped them.

Not to mention, the EU wants us to recognize Kosovo as an independent state.

Don't you see the fucking hypocrisy here?

Serbs in Bosnia want to secede and reconnect with Serbia. But the West says that goes against he Bosnian constitution and thus it can't happen.

But then they allowed the shitpile in Kosovo to happen, regardless of the fact that it went against our constitution.

It's the equivalent of one of your cultural provinces suddenly getting flooded with Turks who declare independence and then you're supposed to accept it and apologize for trying to prevent it.

>>67193931
If anything, I'm relieved

>>67198749
Who, from average citizens, wants wars? And yet they happen anyway.

Situation can very easily get out of control.

>>67198753
>no military until nato got involved
nato got involved because your troops were already too far in, nobody bombs a country for petty reasons

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No, Why?

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>>67198798
you are preaching to the willing.
I have nothing against Russia and I think our current conflict with them only happens due to US influence.
It would be in best interest of both EU and Russia to maintain friendly economic relationship.

>>67198808
I can understand where you are coming from. Overcoming hatred isn't easy, else there would be no hatred in the world

>>67198771
>why don't you join the EU then
most russians dream about it

>>67198706
We already gave everyone to the Hague, and the government didn't help out the lawyers in their defense.
We fulfill every single demand like a good lapdog.
>>67198826
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C4%8Dak_massacre
>commited by special forces under the jurisdiction of the police
>including kla fighters
>controversy if civilians killed were civilians

>>67198902
Are you high or something?

>>67198884

I don't see how people expect us to overcome hatred for an enemy who keeps on provoking us while hiding the big guns of the West.

The thing is I wouldn't give a shit who lived in Kosovo so long as it was recognized as ours.

I didn't give a single shit about Albanians, and most people didn't, until they started stirring up shit.

>>67198820
Only war to happen in Europe is the information war new age Marxists are leading on rational thought.

That and the yearly bombings which will become commonplace in Germany and France now that they have a large wahabi contingent.

Russia doesn't need to invade anyone. By 2030 most of Eastern Europe will gladly want to secede from EU as fast as possible.

>>67193931
If Russia takes all of the former communist countries back into their sphere and in exchange leaves Germany alone I would be fine with that.

I really don't see how it would be that great of a loss, most of the people in East Europe prefer having a strong man in charge anyway rather than a liberal democracy that allows gay parades and other degeneracy.

>>67198988
There are several ethnic flashpoints. Balkans will explode soon.

>>67198972
but can't you see that below all the political strife, they are just people like you and me, who only want to live their lives?
How can you hate them for beeing born in a different society?

>>67198918
this discuss isn't gonna end right

>follow genocidal politics
>doesn't expect people to fight back
>if they do, they're terrorists since it's not an official army

>>67199043
It won't.
Nobody wants a war. Maybe only the Bosniak politicians, but i'm not even sure about that. I think it's just rhetoric.

>>67199108

>How can you hate them for beeing born in a different society?

Because ultimately it comes down to a simple thing: it's either my people who suffer or theirs and like everyone else, I stick with my own.

>>67194060
NATO is useless in our case

>>67199043
>Balkans will explode soon.
It's not the 20th century anymore.

>>67199165
btw I wanted to ask you, is this really gonna affect your country?

>>67199133
Look what happened in the 90s. It started with rhetoric too, then came incidents and provocations and then atrocities.

>LE GETTING NERVOUS BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF AN UPCOMING LOCAL CONFLICT XDDD LE HAPPENING XDD

don't you guys have fucking passports and marketable skills or something? if you want to leave you can just fucking go.

>>67198760
Shittons of countries joined EU and it's okay.
Crimea joined Russia after successful referendum and somehow it's "expansionism".

>after communist coup.
basically maidan

>>67198771
Because I like Russia and don't like EU or any other """unions"""

>>67197785
We are afraid? I didn't notice 2bh.

>>67199155
why does anybody have to suffer?
dont you think we can build an europe without suffering or war?

>>67199184
>it's the current year!
History didn't end with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

>>67198902
kys

>>67199206
Yes, but it's only the Bosniaks flinging shit, and not everybody.
Serbia and Croatia are working diligently to improve the diplomatic relations.
The Serbian government has pretty much given Kosovo a green light, and is only talking about the North.
And Milo's gonna Milo until he dies.

>>67199244

>dont you think we can build an europe without suffering or war?

Nope.

Thinking like that is foolish.

>>67199244
I think you guys proved that YOU can't a few times now

>>67199244
>europe
Kinda hard now that you've filled it with terrorists.

>>67199214
When did they manage to kill your spirit and make you into these soulless automatons? I honestly expected better from Hungary.

>>67199238
We joined after YOUR troops gtfo from our country. There were no EU troops during our EU referendum like in Crimea.

>>67199129
You're the one who wants to fling shit. I was discussing semantics.
Anyway, have a good day friend.

>>67199306
>When did they manage to kill your spirit and make you into these soulless automatons?

well I am Hungarian, it's literally genetic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugrian_suicide_hypothesis

>>67198585
To be fair here, right now they're told everything is hunky dory in Germany with the amazing and great refugees

>>67199294
t. typical serve

not even us are as hateful anymore

>>67199328
not really
you wer saying there was no war and no crimes from your side which is bullshit tb.h

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>>67199379
No, i didn't say there were no war crimes, i was saying there were no terrorists on our side.

>>67199194
Obama's cabinet with it's weakness affects us much more.

>>67199294
just look at germany
we were the bad guys only 70 years ago who tried to conquer whole europe and kill people we considered inferiour.
Nowadays, we are a peaceful country and we have good and friendly relationship with out neighbours.
Times can change, and hatred can be overcome, but it doesn't happen by itself. One has to put a real effort into overcoming the wounds of the past.

but "hurr Russia gon invade u" is the establishment, warhawk agenda. Every reasonable Eastern European would want his country to be able to defend itself

>>67199320
But there are always Russian troops in Crimea, it's our military base for ~200 years.
So, do you really believe that Crimeans didn't want to join Russia?

>>67199282
There will be another war for sure. Croatia is turning to the right and Serbs think like this>>67199155

>>67199379

>not even us are as hateful anymore

Yeah, that's bullshit.

You're hateful as they come when you get the chance to do it without opposition.

It's only when you're in a weaker position that you pretend to be anything but hateful.

>>67199421

You should have killed off the Jews at least.

>>67199273
fuck off ahmed

No, not really

>>67199467

> Serbs think like this>>67199155

Everyone thinks like that.

I don't want a war. But I have no problem with killing.

>>67199490
Imho you should expect more ahmeds in EU anon

>>67199421
We already reached out with our hand, but no one is willing to shake it. It's mostly Bosniak politicians who are riding the 90s nostalgia hate train.
>>67199467
The Croatian right wing is peculiar. And has had a strong presence in politics since the 90s, while the Serbian right wing completely disappeared for a while, and now has a very small percentage in the parliament.

>>67199490
nobody dreams about joining eu

>>67199490
>ahmed
>implying Muslims are against the union with European Caliphate

Gayropeans aren't our friends

>>67199488
jews were one of the most productive and most educated demographics in pre-war germany
can you imagine how many great works of art, how many scientific discoveries and how much economic output was lost due to one madman?

>>67199488
whatever you say
there are people who hate your guts but majority just wants to move on

>>67199421
Yeah, you're so friendly to anybody now that you're basically comiting a suicide to keep it like that...

>>67199558
Gayropeans maybe not, but average Europeans are.

>>67199467
No one here wants in any way.
Rise of our right is not connected that much with muslims and immigrants but with absolutely terrible economic policy of our previous government.
In worst case screnario croatia and serbia will annex our ethnic parts of bosnia and bosnia wont be able or willing to defend itself

>>67199532
>suddenly georgia appears in the middle of eastern european shitposting
whew
what are you even doing here

>>67199566

> majority just wants to move on

See, you don't get to do that.

You don't get to terrorize and kill our people and steal a piece of our country and act like we should just move on.

That doesn't happen.

I honestly have nothing personal against you, but ultimately it will come down to either your kind going extinct or mine and I would much prefer to insure your does.

>>67199523
>>67199533
>>67199600
are you 16 or dumb?

>>67199558
There are no friends, only interests.

>>67199559
Scientific discoveries maybe, but certainly not art.

>>67199594
We belong here, harry

>>67199461
There were, but then they left their bases, were transformed into mysterious little green men (Putin denied they were under his control) who took control of Crimean government and Ukrainian bases and then suddenly these little green men turned into Russian soldiers who were commended by Putin for their work. Get your chronology straight.

Maybe they wanted, I don't know. What I do know is that it's hard to get objective results in a referendum organised by occupying force. Austrians voted to join Germany too, but only after Anschluss already happened.

>>67199594
If anything, Georgia is closer to Europe than Middle East, so why not?

>>67199600
yer autistic
you did worse shit and it's still us who are less hateful

>>67199532
he is a bad kind of ahmed. and i generally ok with good ahmeds so i wouldn't mind those from europe.
also there are more of them here (if we count illegals from middle asia) than in europe anyway.

>>67199533
well, then i can only hope that Bosnian politicians will overcome their hatred and shake your hand

>>67199674

We can move on when you all move out from Kosovo. Anything less than that, don't expect peace.

You can't seriously expect people to forget your crimes against us, do you?

If you were at least punished to some extent by the international community for the shit you pulled, yeah, I could see a way of moving on, but the stance on this is that only Serbs are evil and everyone else was good in the conflict.

How the fuck do you expect us to move on from that?

If a part of your country was taken over by one of the surrounding countries' ethnicities, you'd just let go? Bullshit.

>>67199636
If you want to get your chronology straight, let's go back to Ukraine having a coup backed by far right wing militants spouting anti-russian rhetoric
We had a non-zero chance of losing the access to the Crimean naval base

Also, it's not like absolute majority of Crimea isn't ethnically Russian

>>67199536
in your mountain village maybe. absolute majority of russians in big cities (north-west) especially wants to join the eu.

>>67199694
He spews disgusting rubbish all over the thread like that and you believe him that Serbs aren't hateful, but those ebul Bosniaks are? Come on, man.

>>67199628
Tell me where i'm wrong Ante, i'm the middle reply.

>>67199686
Desu, there are only two types bad ahmed and no ahmed, no third option.
and I thought that mass Muslim migration from CA and Azerbaijan was a bit like... over exaggerated?

>>67199694
Its not that bosniak politicians want war, they fear it most of all.
But internal politics of bosnia are very antagonistic between groups with now majority muslims want greater influence, while croats and especially serbs are more and more separatist, nationalism there is boiling

>>67199694
Are you Germans really lacking testosterone so much now, or are you just pretending?

So... why exactly you think western europe is immune in case of attack? Without USA nobody can stand to russia except for UK but i doubt russia would even try landing there

>>67199763
There are a lot of hateful people, i personally am not, but i am saying is that our successive governments from 2000 onward have chosen to seek a policy of friendship.

>>67199686
>calling Turkic people from Central Asia "Ahmed"
>implying they are Arabs

EU is prolonging western balkan accession and its stopping capital from flowing in these parts and raising tensions. This is already the most unstable area in europe (ukraine doesnt count) with albos and bosniak mudslime questions on standby. You could have a war in your back yard again easy. I see zero changes in baltics/v4, same old same old they'll just keep the border with russia. Maybe some more war in ukraine and greek turkish tension.

>>67199760
how old are you

>>67199812
would you prefere Germany to be a testosterone fuled, war hungry country?

>>67199763
well, I think we need to hear both sides of the story.

>>67199761
Coups are orchestrated by army. That was a popular revolution. Far-right bandits are fighting on both sides in Donbass.

Austria was ethnically German too.

>>67199839

36.

What does that matter?

How old are you?

>>67199790
>I thought that mass Muslim migration from CA and Azerbaijan was a bit like... over exaggerated?
Not really. Azerbaijan isn't poor now so azeris mostly came back though.

>>67199636
>Get your chronology straight.
Firstly meetings and demonstrations happened where they said that they declare independence and refuse to pay taxes to Kiev, etc.
>occupying force
Ukrainian bases would be also occupaying forces then

>Austrians voted to join Germany too
Or please.
Wait, or do they really tell that they were _forced_ to do this and they were not greeting Hitler screaming like teenage girls who meet Justin Bieber?

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>>67199858
>36

>>67199851
I'm not saying anything about Donbass. That's an unplanned for shitshow.
And Austria didn't have free-roaming anti-german warbands

>>67199832
Everyone who follows Islam is achmed
Like seriously:
Prayers in arabic
Sacred language is arabic
Names are arabic (in most cases)
Believes in some paedophillic degenerate and arabic idol of saturn in Mecca

slint eyes dont make difference after that

>>67199949
>finnish cheese
What? Is that a thing?

>>67199858
You are either mentally handicapped or 15

>>67199762
>absolute majority
>According to a public opinion poll, conducted in November 2013, more than a third of Russians (38%) wish their country's accession to the European Union.
>38% even before the Ukraine and sanctions
>absolute majority in 2016
I'm sure this number is twice smaller now.

>>67199847
I don't know. What Germans think is business of Germans, not mine. I was just asking, because I have a trouble to understand your mentality and I find it quite strange and interesting.

>>67199847
We'd like it if you had a bit of testosterone.
Enough to kick Merkel to the curb and get a proper leader.

One that isn't a fucking far leftist.
We've had enough of those fucknuggets in Europe.

The moment when a country's leader starts putting people from other continents before her own people is quite possibly the time you have to tell her get the fuck off the podium.

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>>67199994
Yes.
I heard you are crazy for this.

>>67199762
I live in Siberia and nobody wants to join EU, obviously.
> majority of russians in big cities
Statistics prove otherwise, stop your wishful thinking

>>67199949
I don't know about cheese, but Valio yogurt is in every store again.

>>67200043
I thought you sold your cheese in toothpaste tubes.

>>67200043
Huh. Never seen it. Then again, I'm in Siberia, so it might simply not reach us

>>67200016
my mentality is that countries are not people, and that beeing an "alpha, testosterone-fueld" country is what lead to the many wars in europe in the past.

>>67200023
so would you like us to elect an populist right-wing leader, who is against germany paying eu monies to eastern europe, and against easter europeans taking our jobs?

>>67200011

Ne seri.

>>67200043
2expensive4us. we eat cheap rossiyiskiy cheese now.

>>67200125
I'm sure you can manage to find a happy medium.
Most countries do.

>>67199588
>average Europeans

Average Europeans hate Russia and Russians, how could we possibly be friends with them?

>>67200157
>implying
It's fucking inedible m8

>>67200043
Maybe by Finnish standards we're crazy about it, but I guess it's just we have a 150 mln market which is dozens times bigger than Finnish one.
Your cheese products are quite good, but Russian domestic brands are much more popular.

>>67200163
the populist leader is the happy medium, between Merkel and Hitler.
A german Orban of sort, who thinks first about his country and doesn't give a fuck about EU member states.
But something tells me that you wouldn't be too happy with such a leader in Germany

>>67200125
Oh, yes, I want wars. In the age of automatization, it is necessary to reduce the numbers of uneducated working class.

Honestly, my country should only have like half a million living in it.

>>67200177
Not true really, even here which is heavy anti-orthodox country, popular opinion after involvement in syria is mainly positive

>>67200177
No, they don't. It's like saying average Russians wants to conquer Europe and establish Communism again, the same kind of bullshit.

>>67200177
>Average Europeans hate Russia and Russians
average europeans don't give a shit about you and this shithole. they only hate the politicians

>>67194152
>implying that westcuck forces would actually defend us if ruskies sent their tanks here
fool me once

>>67200177
I don't hate Russians. I just know that they would treat us like shit given a chance.

>>67200177
Have you been there? No one really hate Russia. Maybe only sone eastern Europe countries.

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>>67200043
>I heard you are crazy for this.

I've never tasted it or any other foreign-made cheese. And probably never will.

>>67200177

Nah man you're wrong.

Europe is not Poland, can't generalize like that.

>>67200177
current russian government, Maybe
But I don't think,that anyone is against average Russian
Even here, for example, despite the fact, that we are at war condition with each other, we consider government and people separately

>>67200217
>A german Orban of sort, who thinks first about his country and doesn't give a fuck about EU member states.
Maybe a happy medium between Orban and Merkel is a possibility? Surely you can find one sane German.

>But something tells me that you wouldn't be too happy with such a leader in Germany
You'd be surprised how little of the highly vaunted German monies we actually get in here.

Greece, Spain, Poland. Those guys will cry.

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>>67200177
not true we like putin even tho most russians on /int/ dont for whatever reason. maybe hes not an angel but hes the best you got. would you like merkel better? or someone inexperienced? someone crazy?

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>>67200235
>average Russians want to conquer Europe and establish Communism again

Implying that's not true.

>>67200377
It's true only as an /int/ meme.

>>67200235
>It's like saying average Russians wants to conquer Europe and establish Communism again
And literally every European says exactly this thing, isn't it hate? Feel disgusting.

>>67193931
All I care about is Poland, it would feel wrong to abandon them because they've been fucked for so long and >muh heritage

>>67200367
No one sane likes Putin, but people are not retarded to hate each other over some fuckhole in middle east

>>67200286
You're not even proper Europeans

>>67200377
The funny thing, average Russian will trade this for German citizenship.

>>67200125
Jeez, I agree with you that hattered is a bad thing and it can lead to many horrible situation, but I think that over-friendliness can be pretty damaging as well. What about trying to find some kind of a balance?

>>67200296
>he doesn't have 200 or so rubles to buy some Danish molded cheese or whatever you want
Technically, Belorussian cheese is foreign-made too.