Post a better map of Europe. PROTIP: you can't.

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>>66921161

>>66921161
>bordering Germany
>bordering Austria-Hungary
>bordering Turks
Really miss those times tbchwyg.

>>66921161
>austo-hungry
>no buffer zone between europe and russia
>ottomans

shit map

>>66921182
Kekkerdoodled

>>66924291
My great-grandpa was born in 1899. It was pretty wild, listening to stories from his childhood, with the Russian Empire in living memory.
He had it pretty comfy, living in Viborg, hanging out with Russian lads and getting in trouble. Sounded like a fun time to be alive.

>>66921161
Russia is the big flaw there

A Mexican going about how Europe should look like is a joke of the highest grade.

>>66921161
>south tyrol not part of italy
>luxemburg not part of germany
>lelgium not part of the netherlands
>portugal not part of spain
>sweden and norway not part of denmark
wew

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germs and russkies about to butcher each other in millions in: 3...2...1...

>>66921161
something is missing

>>66921161
everything went to shit after the WWI

>>66921161
So fucking terrible
>no Poland
>no Baltic states
>no Finland
>despite these legitimate countries not existing, Montenegro exists
>no Grossdeutschland
>Bi Moreta is a thing
>shitty multicultural empire blob exists
>Ottoman Empire exists
>Belgium exists
>Switzerland exists

>>66921161
> Ottoman Empire exists
> No Poland
> Hapsburg a shit
> Germany is a country
> no Baltic states

weeew

>>66924800
What about these borders + interwar poland?

>>66921161
>Map of Europe
>No memesters

Why? Finland, Poland, Ireland and Baltland all make Europe a better place.

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>>66925036
I'm ok with interwar Poland as long as we have proper sea acess. Pre war Gdynia was literally build in 15(or 20 years) and a marvel of modernist architecture.

k, here you go

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oh, my bad, sorry, here you go

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>>66924700

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>>66921161
>Post a better map of Europe.
here you are

>>66926281
this is just like in my europa universalis games!

>>66926281
Fuck you I don't want to be Russia.

>>66926345
face the facts bro. Prussia was never polish

>>66926374
Depends which part desu.

Warmia was a thing long before P*ussia.

>>66926374
>Prussia was never polish
Except when it was founded by a FUCKING POLISH KING and remained a Polish vassal for centuries.

>>66926281
This is more Poland than anybody could ever want

>>66926419
maybe, but in general it was never polish. we should push to the west thou and reclaim Berlin

>>66926436
yeah, but it would look better with Prussia

Piasts were fucking cunts for not pushing into West when they had a chance, instead Western Slavic lands were literally handed to the Germans.

>>66926281
Now we are taking.

>>66926460
Some west slavs shat on Lechites, some were allies ike the ones who made Wolin/Vineta/Jommsborg(it was part of Poland for some time) and some were cunts who raided silesia.

It's not all that simple desu.

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>>66926460
>yeah, but it would look better with Prussia
yeah it does
>Piasts were fucking cunts for not pushing into West when they had a chance, instead Western Slavic lands were literally handed to the Germans.
actually they did. just lost it eventually

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>>66921161
I can and I am posting it right now.

>>66926791
too far in the east

>>66926281
>not getting Kresy back

>>66926828
>wanting those fuckers to be in our little empire

>>66926906
This is the mentality that fucked Poland over after the 1920 war and thru WW2, you dumb little shit.

>>66926936
what mentality? empire or not wanting eastern barbarians? 'cause IIRP was piece of shit because of them and jews and germans.

>>66924752
Coming from fucking burgr

>>66924994
>no Poland
>no Baltic states
>terrible

>>66926281
good job turning neighboring countries into germanic majority

>>66924408
Austro-Hungary was the buffer zone

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>>66927027
BAM. Dead tsar.

>>66927056
>germanic majority
implying no genocide was implied

>>66921161
GIB ERDELY

>>66921161
T.Ivan

>>66926818
I am a Greek

>>66927128
t. Felix Perdinski

>>66926981
>what mentality?
Mentality that left over 2 million Poles in the USSR to pursue the fault "dream" of a little, ""ethnically homogeneous"" Poland to be devoured by growing states of Russia and Germany.
The same mentality that decided to throw Polish people under the tracks of the blitz and boots of the Red Army later on.

II RP had problems but having minorities (sans the ukrainian one) was not what you'd like it to be.

>>66927430
i literally have no idea whats your point. Are you pro-empire and against. You keep bubling with no sense.

>>66927540
Big Polan good
Small Polan not so good
Big Polan minus uk*aininas Very Good

>>66927556
Will you populate those lands with your "never-to-be-born" offspring?

>>66927586
The fact that I am infertile should have nothing to do with this thread.

>>66927556
I would say big poland good untill populated only with poles and not being multi culti shithole with jewish scum in it.

>>66927586
that good point. nowadays land is useless without ppl and only morons want to take it.

>>66927013
beer lords of Bohemia also find the existence of Russia unsettling. Get your Romanoffs back, then we can talk.

>>66921161

Russia's borders were literally perfect

i wish we could turn back time

>>66927735
Putin is trying

>>66927735
it would be perfect to put those fuckers beyond Ural.
you know, natural border.
to fucking Mordor.

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Rightful borders of Europe.

>>66927735
I wish Russia could switch places with Canada so that you'd have to deal with them directly.

Would be a great spectacle.

>>66927642
t. PiS

>>66927890
I'd watch that with a smile

>>66927906
t. Mama Merkel

>>66927890

Russia has always been America's friend. the only problem with this plan is that Canada is America's designated Lebensraum, just like Poland is Russia's.

>>66928043
i know that 4chan is for autists and morons but you sir are top tier idiot

>>66928073

how do you say "not an argument" in Polish?

>>66928043
If Canada and Russia switched places you'd have to change your diaper not only after each visit at the mart but also each time a Russian farts too loudly and you shart because of fear.

>>66928081
its pronounced just like "i make a stupid comment and i expect others to make valuable counter arguments". try it

>>66928093
>>66928126

>Russia is le evil boogeyman :'(

>>66928043
>Canada is America's designated Lebensraum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9HD01V704

>>66928144
its not. its just a retarded drunk holding a razor

>>66926791
Nope sardinia ,liguria and piemonte are italian you don't know anything about my country

>>66921161
you know this is the worst map of Europe ?

>>66928144
>China is le evil boogeyman :'(

>>66928144
We're pretty evil tbqh rawr :3

>>66928223

>no American in this thread has cried about China
>dozens of Poles have expressed irrational Russophobia in this thread

really fires your neurons

>>66928212

Italy is a geographic expression.

>>66928287
>Europeans talk about Europe
>Retarded fat american comes in and expresses his opinion no one asked for.
really fires your neurons

>>66928287
>irrational Russophobia
hehe

>>66928350

>can't refute my opionion
>gets butthurt

like clockwork. 1772 BEST year of my life

>>66928287
Nope, Even dante call for italian union ,you just don't know the history of my country

>>66928383
>i mention china
>burger gets heart attack
like a national debt

>>66928432
what do you expect from an american?

>>66928485
>>66928449

how's the Polish aircraft carrier program coming buddy

maybe your boats can be powered by consonants

>>66928538
2/10 see me after class

>>66928538
Just as good as the "Great Book of American Culture and History". I keep my fingers crossed that you guys finally finish page 2.

>>66928538
we dont have any. just like black, mexican nor jewish minority. Hows yours?

>>66928561

fuck off cuckstamp, at least Poland has history.

>>66928577

Bear in mind that at this very moment you're using lightbulbs and personal computers, both invented by Americans. Better throw those away if you hate our culture ;^)

>>66928583

>USA has a huge black, mexican, and Jewish minority
>it's still more successful than a dozen Polands

this got the juices flowing

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If you disagree you're a cuck

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>>66928625
daily reminder that poland is LITERALLY and UNIRONICALLY younger than new zealand

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>>66921161

>>66928652

you might be onto something.

times Poland has been conquered and cucked: immeasurable

times New Zealand has been conquered and cucked: zero

>>66928625
>lightbulbs
You mean Alessandro Volta was American?!!?!?!!

Whew.

>>66928700
NZ was conquered by brits you autist, now we're being cucked by chinese

>>66928625
>it's still more successful than a dozen Polands
for how long? last 50 years? 100? What it will be in next 50 or 100. Because you got pretty rich just recently. And now China comes.

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>>66928700
>The Commonwealth ceased to exist in the years 1772–95, when its territory was partitioned among Prussia, the Russian Empire, and Austria. Poland regained its independence (as the Second Polish Republic) at the end of World War I, in 1918.

>In 1907, at the request of the New Zealand Parliament, King Edward VII proclaimed New Zealand a dominion within the British Empire, reflecting its self-governing status. Accordingly, the title "Dominion of New Zealand" dates from 1907.[50][51]

poland BTFO

>>66928728
t. wong li

>>66928746
t. deluded cuck
You have to recognise a problem in order to fix it.

>>66928728
>>66928742

Chinese are literally imcompetent. They can't conquer shit.

>>66928784
>They can't conquer shit.
they dont need to. they will just start making deals with europe and you are fucked as europe holds nothing againsts china. They already own you

>>66928770
>actually being a racist in 2016
lmao, get off the internet grandpa

>>66928784
This, getting kind of sick of people for the China meme

>>66928825

Any country in Europe could conquer China in a day. it would literally be another opium war.

All one has to do is kick in China's door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down. Corruption is inherent in communism.

>>66928843
* falling for the

>>66928784
Don't they own like 60% of your debt and can cause a financial crysis in USA whenever they want to?

From what I remember from the leaked emails Clinton literally shat her pants while talking about it .

>>66928784
You obviously haven't visited Auckland

>>66928831
>LE CURRENT YEAR MEME
>>/tumblr/

>>66928866
China has nukes

>>66928866
No european country wants to do that. We give a shit about american bitching on china. And who is butthurt now.

>>66928831
get off of the leftist brainstormming media, man.

literally all people i know in my life are racist and dont like shitty multiculturalism.

only leftist scum and suportters media(jews) want this cucked age.
average european are racist. is not a shame, only a natural reaction for supervivence.

>>66928897

They have as much power over us as we give them, it's true.

Thankfully great men like Trump have good plans to deliver us from this trouble.

>>66928925

I'm not butthurt bro, China doesn't even have a working aircraft carrier. China is literally irrelevant outside their immediate borders.

>>66928919
>>66928951
t. racist homophobic scum

people like you shouldn't be allowed to vote btw

>>66928963
What will he do? Ask the chinks to cancel the debt?

Serious question.

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Why is the Benelux so strong ?

>>66928963
And still they own you and its the only country you are scared of

>>66928978
>people like you shouldnt be allowed to vote

t. the DEMOCRAT

>>66928989

i have literally no idea how economics or national debt works but I know this; all power comes out of the barrel of a gun and no one wants to pick up guns for china lmoa

>>66928995

>America is scared of China

reminder that America literally invaded and BTFO China in 19th century and they will never be able to do the same in reverse because nocarrier

>>66929027
you're just on the wrong side of history my privileged friend

>>66921161
It's near enough perfect, my only objection ia Belgium existing

>>66929031
>in 19th century
wow. you shown them their place. its not that they can buy you out right now.

>>66929039
>australian reloading browser in less 15 minutes

nice proxy xD

>>66929031
But you don;t understand.

The moment they'll tell you to pay it back(and it's trillions of USD) they will destroy your economy. Like 20-30% of USA will be Chink owned after they finish taking back the debt.

>>66929031
The Netherlands has BTFO'd Russia, Britain, the French, HRE, Spain and liberated the USA. If there is a problem you can always count on us. Then we will send China back to the 21st century.

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>>66929081
>Islam in Europe
>Israel

>>66929073
>>66929120

let's say they decide to "buy us out" right now

we say no

what happens?

>>66929122

Netherlands is white and based. You will receive a slice of the magnicent Chinese cake when our armies take Beijing in an unprecedented lightning war sponsored by king Trump

>>66929154
USD falls to the level of some zimbawe currency? Import dies? Wages in USA get decimated? Financial organizations move out? Foreign companies run?

>>66929186

all these problems will be solved in the next 8 years

>>66929154
>what happens?
they sell all you debt for nothing and crash dollar and your economy with no survivors. You dont get to bring aircraft carriers for that.

>>66929213

easy, we can just create new currency backed by gold like in Lincoln days.

>>66928978
WEW
My country is cucked for good
We're on 4chan and you're still in your cock cage

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>>66929206
>all these problems will be solved in the next 8 years
yeah. Trump will gonna save you from China

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>>66929154
You know in WW2 when Japan attacked the USA in Pearl Harbor the Netherlands declared war on Japan before the USA.

Which is why they attacked Indonesia ;__;

>>66929240
with no counterpart in gold. fucking genius

>The U.S. debt to China is $1.185 trillion, as of August 2016. That's 30% of the $3.948 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. The rest of the $19 trillion debt is owned by either the American people or by the U.S. government itself.

>China is more than happy to own close to a third of the U.S. debt. Owning U.S. Treasury notes helps China's economy grow by keeping its currency weaker than the dollar. That keeps Chinese exports cheaper than U.S. products.

>What Would Happen If China Called in Its Debt Holdings?
>China would not call in its debt all at once. If it did so, the demand for the dollar would plummet like a rock. This dollar collapse would disrupt international markets worse than the 2008 financial crisis. China's economy would suffer along with everyone else's.

>China needs this growth to raise its low standard of living. Therefore, despite its threats, China will continue its position as the world's largest holder of U.S. debt.

>>66929256

>Trump is going to save you from a third-world country on the brink of collapse with no power projection

that's right

>>66929260

you did the right thing.

New Amsterdam was a great colony :3

>>66929296

We can just steal gold from other countries with our military juggernaut and then issue money to citizens in exchange for labor.

Did you even pay attention to how the Nazi German's did things? Since they annihilated your entire country in a couple of days with minimal resistance you would think you would try to learn from them.

>>66929309
true under normal circumstances. but image a war, even local. is it so far fetched to think that china would do that.

>>66929365
>is it so far fetched to think that china would do that.
yes, because most countries don't operate according to /pol/ economics 101

>>66929352
>Did you even pay attention to how the Nazi German's did things?
and in the end went bankruct before the end of war

>>66929386
it would be not an economic issue but a war weapon against america

>>66929404

>the people fighting a war against the entire world with losing odds went bankrupt

no shit. that wouldn't happen to the USA because our military is literally unmatched. we wouldn't be bombed day and night and sent into total war mode like what happened to the fascisti

>>66929496
so its not that you were selling state bonds during wwii? so during next war china can just destroy your economy and you will be left with no money to wage a war.

>>66929546

when World War II started we maintained a standing army of like 20,000 men. now we maintain a standing army of 2,000,000+ well trained and equipped fighters with the ability to deploy anywhere in the world in 24 hours.

it's a different time brah

>>66929619
you will still need money that china can take away from you brah

>>66929646

nah brah because we transfer to the gold money, remember? the wars pay for themselves.

>>66929671
you are just retarded, arent you?

>>66921161
>Belgium and Luxembourg exist
>Ottomemes on Europe

>>66929717

i'm drunk but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work

>>66929748
ok you made me laugh now

>>66927832
Actually Ural is not that huge mountain range as one might think, it is very old so it wouldn't work as a natural border

>>66927832
Actually Ural is not that huge mountain range as one might think, it is very old so it wouldn't work as a natural border

>>66928081
Njet argument

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There. Can't top that.

>>66928644
that's actually interesting