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Native English speakers are the world's worst communicators

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http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20161028-native-english-speakers-are-the-worlds-worst-communicators

IT'S NOT MY FAULT

I NEVER ASKED TO BE BORN AN ETERNAL ANGLO
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>>66915678
This isn't even a problem honestly. Now smug non-Anglo fuckers know how it feels to be shut out of a country or cultural group just because you aren't as fluent as a native speaker. Serves them right.
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>>66915678
>The message, written in English, was sent by a native speaker to a colleague for whom English was a second language. Unsure of the word, the recipient found two contradictory meanings in his dictionary. He acted on the wrong one.
>Months later, senior management investigated why the project had flopped, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. “It all traced back to this one word,” says Chia Suan Chong, a UK-based communications skills and intercultural trainer, who didn't reveal the tricky word because it is highly industry-specific and possibly identifiable.
Yeah right. They just made this up for a story.
>And then there’s cultural style, Blattner says. When a Brit reacts to a proposal by saying, “That’s interesting” a fellow Brit might recognise this as understatement for, “That’s rubbish.” But other nationalities would take the word “interesting” on face value, he says.
>Anglophones, on the other hand, often talk too fast for others to follow, and use jokes, slang and references specific to their own culture, says Chong. In emails, they use baffling abbreviations such as ‘OOO’, instead of simply saying that they will be out of the office.
I agree, that's retarded and annoying.
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>>66915678
Feels fucking great, man
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>“Native speakers are at a disadvantage when you are in a lingua franca situation,” where English is being used as a common denominator, says Jennifer Jenkins, professor of global Englishes at the UK’s University of Southampton. “It’s the native English speakers that are having difficulty understanding and making themselves understood.”
wut
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>he is monolingual
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hey guys if u need any english lessons let me no
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>>66916900
It is because foreigners can't use it properly. :4)
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>>66917111
I've seen plenty of abuse from english speakers. Not knowing the difference between their, there and they're or writing "should of" instead of "should've" etc.
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>>66916900
>“It’s the native English speakers that are having difficulty understanding
This is true
>tfw get assigned a chinese TA for engineering lab
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>>66917111
sometimes in a conversation with me an anglo will use a difficult term and then they look at me with this kind of a look that I that I probably didn't understand that one and that they should use simpler baby talk with me but meanwhile I'm there thinking silently "fuck you don't patronize me"
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>>66917111
most mistakes like confusing your and you're are made by native speakers
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>>66917263
but did you understand it?
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>>66915678
Just what are you trying to say?
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>>66917286
I think they used the idiom
>but I digress
and then gave me that look

what should I have done in this situation? I think the optimal answer is "no, you don't"

but this is me coming up with a retort an eon later
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>>66917228
That's because they are writing it as it is pronounced.
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>>66917448
>That's because they are writing it as it is pronounced
Too bad that's the exact opposite of how english spelling works
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>>66917448
Or because they never had to study it.
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>>66917448
So, in other words, they're bad communicators?
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>>66917429
kek
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>>66917493
No, just poor.

Also, learning disabilities are common.
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>>66917480
>american education
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>survey a bunch of salty non anglos speaking irrelevant languages
>get this result
hmm really makes you surprised
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To those that don't want to read the article, this picture makes it clear what it is trying to say about how native-English speakers speak.
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>>66916946
>he's bilingual in an irrelevant language

lmao
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>>66917661
How popular/well-known is Idiocracy in Iceland?
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A nice BBC propoganda article which shows that native speakers are retarded oafs and the brown immigrants are the real linguistic masters!
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>>66917720
arabic is pretty relevant actually
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>>66917741
inshalla my turkish brother
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>>66917724
I'm not sure but all my friends like it
But I do know that everyone here likes the Eurotrip movie but other country does.
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>>66917781
>but no other country does*
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>>66915678
So all the Amerigan dorists speaking English extremely slowly in a loud voice to bewildered natives were right all along? After all, they were speaking slowly, clearly, and succinctly.
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>>66917836
Yeah, but they were doing it in the UK.
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>>66915678
>People who don't understand English past the basic level, don't take part in the history and culture of the language, and aren't good enough at interpreting it are somehow better speakers of the language than those who live with and use it every day.

Yeah, OK, fucking idiot author.
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Tbf, I probably couldn't understand a drunk Scotsman myself.
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>>66917886
Is that seriously the point you got out of that whole article?
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>>66917923
>spot the pleonasm
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>>66917781
>>66917821
But it's a fun movie
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>>66917957
ahahahaha
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>>66917967
Yeah its pretty good
I think other euros are just sensitive
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>>66917736
Pluss que les anglos natifs sont des caliss de morons incapable d'apprendre une autre langue...
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>>66918178
je parle votre langue frenchman. C'est pas necessaire pour les anglophone d'appendre une autre langue parce que l'anglais est la lingua france de la monde
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>>66918078
It's just "our" banter. More like ignorance while at the same time hitting a soft spot because the similarities and irony come unexpectedly when you least expect them.

It's a "fun" comedy movie. It's not meant to be taken serious.
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>>66918078
it's a shitty comedy and us non-plebeians would rather watch will ferrell movies
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>>66918178
>ton visage quand la Francais est plus la lingua *Franca* de la monde
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>>66918078
It's nice to be able to laugh and poke fun at one's self desu, as in Idiocracy.
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I'd call you a faggot for liking Will Farrell movies, but he's been in some fun movies.
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>>66918244
>non-plebeians
>Will Ferrell

If you think this is the pinnacle of American comedy you're a fucking pleb
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>>66918236
>je parle votre langue frenchman. C'est pas necessaire pour les anglophone d'appendre une autre langue parce que l'anglais est la lingua france de la monde

Lel...les Chinois vont etre vos maitres dans 20 ans...ils le sont déja aux BC...
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>“It all traced back to this one word,” says Chia Suan Chong, a UK-based communications skills and intercultural trainer
>who didn't reveal the tricky word because it is highly industry-specific and possibly identifiable
Party pooper
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>>66918358
>is a idiot
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>>66918357
>>66918244
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>>66918286
>ton visage quand la Francais est plus la lingua *Franca* de la monde

Ciboire de Cajun semi-attardé détecter...
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>>66918357
Talladega Nights and Step Brothers are perfect examples. Most other shit is annoying, even Anchorman, he didn't even steal the show in that one. Steve Carell did.

His early SNL skits are good, especially Jeopardy, but he's barely mediocre as far as American comedy goes.
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>>66918404
I liked him in Zoolander
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>>66918364
>>66918391

si ca cest vrai, ils vont etre vos maitres aussi monsieur. Nous sommes une pays, vous oublie?
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>>66918374
You're a fucking pleb. Deal with it.
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If you guys want a nice American comedy movie watch Walk Hard. It's especially good if you're a music fan.
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Can we finally get an /int/ rangeban on burgers/aussies/brits?

Canada can stay because it's a Chinese province for all intents and purposes.
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>>66918626
>rangeban on burgers/aussies/brits?
>Canada can stay
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>>66918453
>si ca cest vrai, ils vont etre vos maitres aussi monsieur. Nous sommes une pays, vous oublie?

Tu sous estime toutes les lois extreme que le Québec peut passer pour empecher des investisseurs extérieurs...
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>>66918670
>peut passer
je vois rien a cette moment!
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>>66918750
Le point est que le Québec ne se retrouvera jamais dans une situation comme le BC...bitch de la Chine...
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>>66918670
No idea what you said but that girl is really pretty
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>>66918947
>but that girl

Ce connard ne connait pas Génie...gros colon de l'Alberta....
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>native speakers are bad at communicating because second language learners have small vocabularies and aren't as adept at local slang

Alternatively, immigrants could get more immersed in the local culture and use the opportunity to expand their vocabularies when confronted with words and sayings they don't understand. Should we all just dumb down our speech and eliminate idioms? Sounds pretty fucking boring to me.
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>>66919140
maybe you could stop burgering up your language like a fucking autist and learn to accommodate people that don't give a fuck about your """culture"""
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>having to speak English to non-natives
It's pretty hard to consciously avoid things like metaphors and idioms while having a casual conversation with somebody.
I was drinking with a Japanese guy once and I ended up spending more time explaining various figures of speech to him than anything else. At least he was good at seeming interested.
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