How do Germans feel about their own Trianon?

>Memeland

>>66882956
It's Memelland.
Land of the Memel (that's a river).

But their economy still much better than other European states

>>66881459
They should consider themselves lucky Germany and the German people still exist after the two massive chimpouts that were the two world wars.

poland is a land thief and should be wardecced

Did you know it's actually treason to plan to reclaim those territories by violence?
You can get imprisoned for 10 years for that.

>>66883400
Lel is everything forbidden there?

>>66883433
Ja, ordnung und freiheit komm nicht zusammen.

>>66883433
No, not everything.
In case you were wondering:
>§ 82 Hochverrat gegen ein Land
>(1) Wer es unternimmt, mit Gewalt oder durch Drohung mit Gewalt
>1. das Gebiet eines Landes ganz oder zum Teil einem anderen Land der Bundesrepublik Deutschland einzuverleiben oder einen Teil eines Landes von diesem abzutrennen oder
>2. die auf der Verfassung eines Landes beruhende verfassungsmäßige Ordnung zu ändern,
>wird mit Freiheitsstrafe von einem Jahr bis zu zehn Jahren bestraft.
High treason agains a Land
Who does with violence or per threat of violence
1. add the territory of a land wholly or partly to a land of the BRD or to separate a part of it or
2. change the constitutional order of a land
will be punished with imprisonment for one to ten years.

>>66881459
How is land they stole "their own" ?

This fucking autism from non-europeans must stop, I mean hering out their opinion about European history is like asking a dung beetle for a expertise on brain sugery - pointless and Europeans should just ingore them.

>>66881459
2bh they just have their own past administrations to blame for these losses, Willhelm for the blank check and Hitler for trying take over half of europe

i mean no one would have even declared war on Germany after they absorbed Austria, sure some were butthurt at the new german border aesthetic but thats all

>>66883536
Welp better gibe back the entirety of the british isles back to the celts then. Not their land, they stole it wtf

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>>66883536
>stole

>>66883167
>WWI
>german chimp out

>>66883536
the amount of ignorance when it comes to the establishment of germans in prussia, pommerland, etc is mindboggling.

>>66883626
2bh annexing a neutral nation was kind of a dick move

>>66883536
Sorry Wojcyk, Poland isn't a real country.

>>66883585
>>66883592
Add a wikipedia quote to that you fucking dumb burgers.

This is exactly why any discussion besides memes and banter is pointless with you people. You don't learn European history and wikipedia and mames are your only soucres, we can't discuss those things on equal terms with you due to your lack of knowledge.

Keep in mind that it's ok that you don't know it, I mean you live on a other continent in a country that has some European disapora but not 90% or 80% so it's obvious you don't get tought in schools about it.

>>66883658
I'd feel more offended even if a kiwi would post it.

That's how much I respect australian opinions.

pretty good 2bh

>>66883680
That's not very nice :'^(

>>66883652
2bh WWI was just france and anglos trying to prevent germany from becoming a larger power then they were.
also it seems quite funny that anglos and franks can conquer and mass murder places for 300 years but the moment germany does it its bad

>>66883680
Australia is older than Poland.

>>66883734
is this another "governments define the age of a country" episode?

Pretty good.
Fuck white people. They deserve what comes for them.

>>66883733
>2bh WWI was just france and anglos trying to prevent germany from becoming a larger power then they were.
honestly if it there were any of the allies to blame, it would be the russians for mobilizing their army before Serbia had officially declined the Austro-Hungarian demands
The Germans then moved towards the French through annexing belgium, in an attempt to knock out the French by avoiding the maginot line, before the Russians could fully mobilize on German borders
the Germans literally declared war on several sovereign nations whom had good relations with the brits, and then attempted to annex a completely neutral nation, would you expect Great Britain not to intervene?

>>66883660
Learned it school lad, fucking off yourself you sub human

>>66883895
I highly doubt:
- thay you learned European history in school(more like some Greece, Rome and France and UK);

- that you learned ANYTHING in school, I mean come on be honest with yourself.

>>66883680
poland isn't a real country

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>>66883626
It was a German chimpout.
Just because they didn't genocide 11,000,000 people like in WWII, we shouldn't forgive them for their niggerish behavior.
>hurr treaties are scraps of paper
>m-muh might makes right
>gets rightfully BTFO
>VERSAILLES IS TOO HARSH REEE

They were so arrogant they forgot about the harsh sanctions they imposed on France at the end of the Franco-Prussian war, including:
1. occupation of Paris
2. occupation of ALL of Northern France for 3 years
3. millions in Reichsmarks in reparations

If it weren't for the few brilliant minds that sometimes come out of Germany, they would literally be considered the niggers of Europe.
They can be ok people, but nationalism and militarism are no-no with the German haplotype.

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>>66883941
That's not what Japan thinks and Japan is all that matters to me.

ÖDENBURG WAS NEVER GERMAN REEEEEEE
SOPRON THE MOST LOYAL TOWN

>>66883733
Oh nevermind, you're a germanboo apologist.
Disregard my previous post, you clearly lack the intellectual capacity to understand how to geopolitics.

BTW Britain was ok with Germany being the main power on the continent as long as they didn't try to challenge them on the seas. Guess what? They did.
The Germans wanted a pan-Germanic Europe and a vast Empire that stretched from the English channel to the Urals long before Hitler came out with the idea of a Lebensraum.

Can't have that, m8.

>>66883919
>pooland trying to talk shit
Just give it up my dude

>>66884055
>role playing countries when confronted about personal education
As expected from the country that spanws most autists.

>>66883733
t. Hans-Cletus, professional nazi-apologist and 1/64 proud aryan.

WWI was Germany being but Thurton at being late in the colonization race and throwing a bitch fit by attacking other countries.
Germany is literally the school shooter of Europe and ruines the continent. They made us lose our place to you.

>>66884084
*spawns

I hate fucking posting from tablets.

Poland is loser country

>>66884086
>WWI
>nazis
That makese sense. You're a Muslim whose relatives didn't even fight in WW2.

Jesus Christ why do Poles habe to be so butthurt everytime this story comes up?

>>66881459
>Sudetenland

Kill yourself.

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>>66881459
We took MeMe land to our hands and we will not let it back OUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT FOR PORTS AND ACCESS TO THE SEA WE STAND BRAVE WITH THE MEMES TOGETHER !

>>66883353
What the fuck are you talking about lol xD

>>66881459
We could have been rougher but balkanising the country, thus attempting to destroy the German identity and promoting regional ones.

>all this autism
WW1 and WW2 were both about Muh Empire and colonies, in WW2 Hitler wanted to colonize Russia.
The blame lies with imperialism, not with any particular state.

>>66886338
Thanks mr. PHD in history bulgarian.

>>66883353
The fifth partition of Poland when?

>>66886419
How about I partition your mother with some ukrainian ?

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Reunification Germany Austria when.

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>>66886297
>we

>>66886510
Yes ?

>>66886466
Hopefully never. Not everything should be an ethnic blob.

>>66886466
They cant, or war will be declared on them.

>>66886434
With those ukrainians who made a good partition for your great-grandmother in Volyn?

>>66886466
If the right wing President candidate wins the election in Austria he said they're joining /v4/.

That's a huge middle finger to Germany so I doubt Austrians would like a reunification.

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>>66881459
>The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, about equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of German extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000. [...]

>Concerning the males subject to sterilization the army groups, as organized units, would be the easiest and quickest to deal with. Taking 20,000 surgeons as an arbitrary number and on the assumption that each will perform a minimum of 25 operations daily, it would take no more than one month, at the maximum, to complete their sterilization. Naturally the more doctors available, and many more than the 20,000 we mention would be available considering all the nations to be drawn upon, the less time would be required. The balance of the male civilian population of Germany could be treated within three months. Inasmuch as the sterilization of women needs somewhat more time, it may be computed that the entire female population of Germany could be sterilized within a period of three years or less. Complete sterilization of both sexes, and not only one, is to be considered necessary in view of the present German doctrine that so much as one drop of true German blood constitutes a German.

>Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordingly in the span of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplished fact."

>>66886434
>>66886590
Please don't fight my slavic brothers.
You're being distracted from the REAL enemy.
The BALTS.
We'll take one each alright. Russia can have Lithuania. Poland gets Estonia. We get Latvia.

>>66886590
Aren't you the edgy type.

No wonder, you live in russia. kek.

>>66886594

Sorry, I do not recognize the state of Poland, I only recognize the General Government.

>>66886679
Only the edgiest can survive here

>>66886567

Sorry, I do not recognize the state of France, I only recognize Vichy France.

>>66886643
But anon, Poland didn't have border with Estonia.

>>66886833
I don't understand your post.

We don't have a border atm with them but part of Estonia was in PLC.

>>66883536
All those lands had at least a plurality of Germans or were part of Germany since the instant they unified. I'd agree with you if it included proper Czechia, Slovenia, Trento and all those other regions Austria had/Nazi Germany conquered with a very small German minority or no Germans at all.

>Klaipeda ("Memelland")
>German

XDDDDDDDD

>>66886833
Yeah I know.
Look how badly everything turned out. Now they're independent from any of us.
Gotta try a new configuration.

>>66886892
Lietrally "what?" the post.

>>66887035
The map only shows regions Germany had since unification, plus German majority regions of Austria. There's nothing to discuss, really.

>>66886979
Well, how about that:
- Russia gets Latvia and Klaipėda District Municipality in Lithuania;
- Poland gets the rest of Lithuania;
- Australia gets Estonia.

>>66887125
You do not understand Austria.
All regions of Austria are 'German majority', as Austria is a German country.
Should every country in South America blob together except for yours because they all came from the same place and speak the same language?

>>66887211
Errr, not Klaipėda District Municipality but Klaipėda County...

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>>66887211
I don't fucking want Estonia.

>>66887267
With "Austria", I was talking about Austria-Hungary tbqh

>>66887296
But why? Estonia is a very good variant - they will notice that had been occupied by a year or two.

>>66887317
Oh okay, your previous post makes more sense.

>>66887363
Too close to finland.

Imagine if you will.
I buy land in Australian Estonia, I try to start a plantation(god knows what the fuck grows in Estonia but whatever). And for the first time in forever, somebody in Estonia will be doing civilized work, they'll lift the dirt not lifted for thousands of years.
And they're going to uncover all the Hwan artillery used during the siege of Helsinki.

Would you really trust Balts with hyper-war era tech?

>>66886510
the french being so hard but not hard enough on germany is the reason for ww2

>>66886761
You'll learn to recognize the Air-Sol Moyenne Portée when a 150-300 kiloton nuclear explosion incinerates you for the grandeur of France and the preservation of European civilization against German militarism.

>>66887441
Only the French could be cowardly enough to use nukes against the Germans.
Tribal subhumans the lot of them. African migrants are actually improving the country bit by bit.
Germany will just overextend itself quickly and then lose to Bulgaria or something.

>>66881459
>Sudetenland
>part of Germany

>>66887422
Oh, dont worry about the Grand Duchy of Finland, if you know, what I mean. There will be no such thing as siege of Helsingfors.

>>66887497
>respond to Spanish poster telling them they'll get nuked
>Australian replies by saying that nuking Germans is bad
Australian reading comprehension anyone?

Nuking Germans is akin to killing rodents or flying insects, it is sad but it has to be done. Cowardly or brave doesn't enter into it, just rationally working for the good of humanity.

>>66887545
Try it faggot, I'll beat your faggot ass back to the vagina of your fat burger mom

>>66887545
I'm saying nuking anything is bad.
I'm also saying that germans will crumble to far less than nukes.
No reason to ruin the land for hundreds of years when they'll just destroy themselves by themselves given a handful of years.

>>66887626
>German land
>In any way valuable

France needs more information about its nuclear detonations, computer simulations aren't enough alone. Just think of the word "cleansing" for the effect, we can start over anew with a soil removed from the Germanic horrors. The same should be applied to England.

Besides, nukes don't render lands uninhabitable for hundreds of years, people live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they're both perfectly functioning cities.

Also, no kill like overkill.

>>66887624
>Refers to French nuking Germans
>German says he'll beat an American if he tries it
German reading comprehension anyone?

>>66887536
Godspeed my Chechen friend.

>>66887767
Those were pussy nukes. Not nukes forged in the fires of the holy cold war by Soviet and American masterminds. Even infantile copies like the frogs have would do far too much damage.

>>66887767
Go live on Bikini Atoll then.

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>>66881459

>>66881459
These places were shitholes anyway

>>66888538
We should have done this in 1918 desu

>>66881459
germans should be exterminated

>>66883400
It's time to reclaim what is rightfully yours. We will help you, as we did the last time.

>>66883660
Does Poland actually exist?

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>>66890503
>>66890532

>>66887441
The ASMP-A is such a magnificent piece of engineering. I feel blessed to have been able to touch one.

I can't wait to see it solve the German problem for ever.

>>66890767
Godspeed Jamal.
Make Europe great again.

>>66890285
True, when the niggers started to chimp out for the first time.

>>66881459
>wanting these poor lands back
Germany was economically in perfect shape without these poorfag shitholes until 1990.

>>66883536
2bh I'd be pretty interested in what a dung beetle has to say regarding anything really

>>66883536
This to be honest.
During the whole European history borders were moving every year with countries appearing and disappearing. There is no such thing as "historically rightful clay" here.

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>>66883733
>2bh WWI was just france and anglos trying to prevent germany from becoming a larger power then they were.
britain only got involved when they went through belgium

>>66891321
So you will not mind if we will take back the DDR?

>>66886043

The delegates of the Sudetenland declared themselves to be part of German-Austria, then they were invaded by Czecho-Slovak troops. So yes, it was stolen land.

>>66891610
Oh God yes and you are free to purge, rape and pillage through the DDR.

>Poland
Pretty much a non country.

>>66890503
you wont betray us this time, right?

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>>66891680

>euros squabbling over a few hundred square kilometers while the eastern menace keeps creeping west bit by bit even though they already have more clay than know what to do with
Idiots every single one of you

>>66888538
>>66890285
>>66891273
wtf thats rude

>>66891741
nice shirt m8

>>66891947
thanks senpai

>>66891613
Shut up, Karl.

It was Czechoslovak clay, and you repaid our generosity of allowing your cunts to keep living there after the 1918 independence by treason.

It was Austrian emperor, who fucked everything up after 1848 anyway.

>>66891877
>we will take away chunk of your country, and we will kill all Czechs there without mercy, no hard feelings by the way
Fuck off, Konrad.

>mutilation

lol

>>66892268
>It was Czechoslovak clay

No, the delegates of the region declared themselves to be part of German-Austria in October 1918. Czecho-Slovaks claimed and subsequently invaded it, which was later sanctioned by the victors of WWI.

>treason

They were separatists, just like the Czechs had been.

>>66883833
>WW1
>maginot line
wat

>>66892459
They didn't wanted to be the minority in country speaking by different language, but that doesn't mean they can simply secede along with land that wasn't theirs.

Czechoslovak authorities merely defended the integrity of the sovereign country. It would be pointless to fight for independence, just to lose it right away. To the country that tried to forcefully integrate us for centuries, no less.

That land belonged to Bohemian Crown, and successor state to Lands of Bohemian Crown was Czechoslovakia, not Austria, nor Germany.

>>66883536
>I mean hering out their opinion about European history is like asking a dung beetle for a expertise on brain sugery - pointless and Europeans should just ingore them.
I feel this way about poolish people desu

>lose war
>lose land because you lost at war
Seems pretty fair to me

>>66893364

It wasn't a secession from Czecho-Slovakia, Austria-Hungary disintegrated into several states, one of them being German-Austria. Czecho-Slovakia claimed that land and occupied it, they didn't defend land they already possessed.

>Bohemian Crown

That unit had been de facto meaningless for 300 years at least. And the new state wasn't in fact Bohemia, but a new Slavic state that also included territories carved out of the Kingdom of Hungary (which was an actual state back then, unlike the lands of the Bohemian crown, but whose integrity was irrelevant to the Czecho-Slovaks). The Czechs even claimed additional land in East Austria/West Hungary (Slavic corridor).

"south tyrol", real name "Trentino Alto Adige" has always and will always be Italian.
Germans have nothing to do with it, even austrians.

>>66881459
fucking deserve it for starting two world wars and being responsible for the death of the white race

>>66881459
The whole of eastern Germany should had been reclaimed by Poland.

>>66885152
>Jesus Christ why do Poles habe to be so butthurt everytime this story comes up?
>https://www.google.pl/search?q=Bund+der+Vertriebenen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=kwwaWMTpKLTs8wejr6nQDg#q=Bund+der+Vertriebenen&tbm=vid

>>66895761
>muh Erika Steinbach

>>66895811
>muh Erika Steinbach
Rather 1,3 million Germans constantly celebrating their butthurt:
>In 16 Landesverbänden und 20 Landsmannschaften sind rund 1,3 Millionen Mitglieder organisiert. Sie sind Mitglieder in den rund 6.000 regionalen Gliederungen und den über 1.000 Heimatkreisvereinigungen bzw. Heimatortsgemeinschaften.
http://www.bund-der-vertriebenen.de/strukturen-organisation-aufgaben/rechtsform.html

>>66883833
So that's Cannadian education on WWI?
Do you even make a difference betwee wwi and wwii?

>>66883353
Debil
Give Aztlan back to Mexico and the rest to Amerindians.

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>all these non-countries sperging out because they are now piss-poor and irrelevant after we left them for good.

Fühlt gut, uezs

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>>66894436
this tbqh

>>66897088
>Debil
Anon, please, don't be offensive, you should use the term "mild intellectual disability".

>>66894436
>Has a german population
>Germans have nothing to do with it, even austrians

sure thing mario

>>66894257
"German Austria" was not a legitimate country. It was lame attempt of Imperial remnants to hog as much clay they can, and run for it. Not to mention that it lost any credibility the moment it attempted to form union with Germany.

Losers of Great War, Central Powers remnants demanding the portion of land belonging to the nation they oppressed for centuries, country built on the sacrifice of soldiers fighting and dying on the side of Entente, against the German expansionism. That is unprecedented impudence!

>>66886683
good memes alonso, I like them very much!

>>66882956

I loled.

>>66886892
What is now the Czech republic was Bohemia and Moravia once wich were part of the holy Roman empire of German nations.
So it wasn't only Hitler who made those parts German. All those regions have a long history connected to Germany.

>>66883652
Belgium could have let the Germans pass, but they resisted so it is kinda their own fault. I mean, what did they expect.
But yeah, it wasn't that nice.

>>66883949
>It was a German chimpout.
Not WWI.
WWI was the fault of every European nation involved into the war.
Even the politicians of the other countries said Europe could have prevented the war, but noone was willing to.
WWII was a chimpout, but one that was kinda justified. And I don't mean the holocaust, I mean the giving a fuck on the Versaille treaties and wantig back eastern Prussia.

>>66881459
>start shit get hit

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>>66898376
>>66894436

Können wir aufhören, Alto Adige "Südtirol" zu nennen? Trentino ist Südtirol, Alto Adige sollte "Mitteltirol" sein.