/east-germanic/ We Wuzz Vandalls and Goths !

>>66850610
Polish delusion is always hilarious because they don't realise that the Vandals ruling that area left very little impact on the local Slav population.

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>>66850610
Lusiatian culture>>>>>Sarmatians>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Germanic tribes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl0-Yo7y7D4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1oqga-LWck

Yes hello yes

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>>66851960
Trzciniec culture>Lusiatian culture>Sarmatians>Xiong-nu>Germanics

>>66852222
>Balto-Slavic
This triggers the Balts.

>>66850610
>>66851960
>>66851999
>>66852222
Tajčarji raus! Mi smo slovanski folk s slovansko špraho.

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>>66852335
>Australian stableboys

>>66852585
Kuga s mә glih kәr reku, ti kurba mәjhna? Jest tә puvem, de sәm zvežban holcar pa de sәm biu že doskat zravәn, k sej kramper pubirou; saj 300 gajb ga mam že nabranga. Drva znam cepәt z eno roko, traktor uhkә pa u miže furam. Tuko tem žvajznu, de teu du Buhina pa nazaj udnesvә, vrjem mә. K to pišem, že brusәm skiro pa vežem štrәk. Mrtu s ti, toja držina, usә toj prjatlә, pa še ceu toj rod za sto generacij nazaj. Ščijem pu grobovәh tojga roda, ungavәm tә use babe u držin pa use drva tәm ud bajte udnesu. Suvata nәjt u cvet pride pa mlek nәj set skisa. Ti nis nәč u primerjau z mano. Upam, de vәm vәs pәrdelk preč pride, pa usa žvina crkne. Dep te kura bәcniva pa pәs puscau. Vem ke žviš pa vem, ke mate kluče ud bajte skrite. Merkej se, k bom zj hmau pršu. Frderbou tem preh, kokr uhkә Učenәš zmolәš.

U moj drušnə so usə jagrə u far; skəp ga pjemo usək dan pu šihtə. Skəp pupjemo več šnopsa, kokr ga u ceumo let u petəh občinah nardejo. Duma mam tri puše, ut tga dve šnelfajərce pa eno pušo z rešpetinəm. Z enmo šusəm uhkə frderbam tri vepre naenkat, auslezvam t jəh pa tuko hit, de tut za pumežikənt nimaš cajt. Ti se kər devej kunštnga, sam de se nauš krvau useknu, pruklet baštart.
Čep ti vedu, s kerga se kle norca devaš, nep tukole guvoru. Tis gutov tak pauliha, de hodəš u gmajno srobret rauhat; jest grem skor usək dan pu južnə u gmajno žagat tuko det puvem de səm že dost takəh pankrtov stumbou, k so pu moj host vandral.

>>66850610
t. insecure teenager

>>66850610
this is ridiculous and shameful

We wuz Celts

hallo mein germanic freunds :DDD

>>66850610
Why aren't you speaking an East Germanic language, then?

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>>66850610
>>66851960
>>66852222
First.

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>>66853863

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indeed makes you ponder

>>66852335
>slovansko špraho
>slovansko
>špraho
toplel

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>>66854713
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gord_(archaeology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polabian_Slavs

Hello my Polish equals

>>66850610
lmao

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>>66854891
At least post a good one

>>66854470
Naj Bog štrafa poljski folk

>>66850610

And did the Goths leave influence in your languages? (besides pan-european germanic words like "war")

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>>66855031
Our word for mother is (äiti) a Gothic loan

>>66855031
they didn't leave any influences, language or genetic wise

>>66854805
Greetings my German brother

>>66854805
Gib bag Berlin. >>66854778

We can learn Gothic Language (only known East Germanic language) and we would be normall East Germanics

>>66857059
>we can
>we would be
wew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbnZAU8Ms9E

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>>66850669
>Polish delusion is always hilarious because they don't realise that the Vandals ruling that area left very little impact on the local Slav population.
How does it feel to be so fucking retarded that you don't even know that they returned to their homeland, you fat fucking nigger?

>>66855176
>genetic wise
Oh, but they did.

Well, Slovenia wuz under the Ostrogoths and our third largest city was founded either by them or the Lombards, so yeah, WE WUZ GERMANICS.

>>66859561
The truth comes slowly forward. I fucking told you guys.

>>66861923
What u did told us , our Germanic Brother ?

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>>66862090
Vandals + Sarmatians + Venedi -> Lechites -> Poles

>>66862216
So none of the "ancestral populations" of the Poles were Slavic?

Really compels you to ponder

>>66862216
So do you accept us as fellow germanic brothers ?

>>66862410
It's a Pole living in Sweden you dumb fuck

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>>66862359
The Slavs formed around 500AD from different PROTO-Slavic tribes you idiot.

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>>66862926

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>>66862926
>>66862982
Why did these Sarmato-Germanians succumb to Slavshits?

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>>66863040
Venedi were proto-Slavs, a Balto-Slavic type before the Slavic and Baltic split.
>>66863040
Because that's how history goes and intermixing and merging is common.
Vandal (""German""ians from Scandinavia), Sarmatians (Iranians from Iran) and Venedi (Balto-Slavs from east) are the ancestors of West Slavs (Lechites = Poles).

>>66859561

>Vandals assimilated some proto-Slavs
>...
>POLES = VANDALS GUYZ

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SHIT NIGGA NOT A DROP OF SLAV BLOOD IN US WE WUZ VANDALS AND SHIET DESTROYIN' ROME THEN DEM GERMAN MOTHAFUCKAZ CHANGED OUR HISTORY

>>66863928
>>Vandals assimilated some proto-Slavs
It was the other way around I think, the Venedi assimilated the Vandals and Sarmatians.

>>66864584
>we wuz vandals
>we wuz sarmatians
>we wuz Wends
>they all just fucked and assimilated each other


I've heard there were also some Japanese in the mix.

>>66864706
Are you fucking retarded?

Germans: Thuringians, Saxons, Mecklenburgians, etc etc.

I already roasted you piece of shit before, I can do it again. xD

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Let's not forget this grave means we wuz vikings and shiet.

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>>66864965
yeah I wonder why schools don't teach we are germanic if that's the case
>inb4 german propaganda

krauts weren't able to change our history during occupation but they can in 2016 when we are independent?

Brothers I'm germanic I figured it out by the fact that I love scat porn and furry. Heil Hitler.

>>66865057
>>66865186
Germanics /=/ Germans
You dumb piece of shit.

>>66862090
to Polak debilu

>>66865209
And according to everything that has been found thus far, Vandals weren't fucking germanic, they were proto Western Slav, but were grabbed by German nationalists as "Germans" during German Empire and its Kulturkampf against Poland.

In Medieval Period everyone believed Poles to be connected to the Vandals.

>>66865263
>In Medieval Period everyone believed Poles to be connected to the Vandals.
>everyone believed

source?

>>66864706
>Wends
Wends were Slavs and from a later period, Venedi were proto-Slavs from an older period.

>>66865321
read Adam from Brema lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesta_Hammaburgensis_ecclesiae_pontificum

>Mieszko I Dagome, King of the Wends" (Old Norse: Vindakonungr). .... (in Latin translation: kings of Suiones, Goths and Vandals)

http://historum.com/medieval-byzantine-history/2679-what-happened-vandals-8.html

Happy reading. Vandals = Western Slavs, not some fucking Germans.

>>66864994
That just means that some viking were coming to trade with the Slavs from today's Poland, having a had a town camp in Wolin and all. Also Polish and Scandinavian kings exchanged some Viking and Slavic warriors, due to dynastic marriages.

>>66865321
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polacy_a_Wandalowie

To akurat był szeroko dostępny pogląd w tamtych czasach. Zmieniło się to podczas zaborów, kiedy to Niemcy zapierdolili sobie wszystkie ludy, żeby wymazać polaków z istnienia.

>>66865409
First you say we are eastern germanic and now that our supposed vandal ancestors were western slavs? Lmao

>>66865057
>yeah I wonder why schools don't teach we are germanic if that's the case
ONLY PARTLY, IN SMALL PART YOU RETARD. Lechite's came mostly from the Venedi, but some Vandal and Sarmatian assimilation occurred on the Vistula as well, those tribes just didn't evaporate.

>>66865684
To troll you faggots. You almost erupt from your assholes. lmao

Eastern Germanics = Proto-Slavshit tribes.

WE

>>66865409
>Wends
For fucks sake...
Wends =/= Vandals

>>66865581
No shit Seba.

>>66864584

The Vandals who left what is now Poland during the age of migration had a Germanic language (at least that's what is believed due to their names and other indicators), so they obviously wouldn't be assimilated.

>>66865617
>większość historyków zaprzecza jednak domysłom średniowiecznych kronikarzy, wskazując przy tym m.in. na podobieństwo nazwy Wandalowie do Wenedowie lub Wendowie.

czyli ten argument ''Wendowie to Wandalowie bo brzmi podobnie!'' którego idioto używasz jest argumentem PRZECIWKO naszemu pokrewieństwu z Wandalami

>>66865946
Except some stayed and rest of them returned later on back to Poland after they got kicked out from Africa.

http://www.mpov.uw.edu.pl/en/thesaurus/tribes-and-peoples/vandals-

I'm tired of your german revisionism.

>>66866006
To jak walka z wiatrakami, jebany kretynie.

Jedyny powód dla którego Wandalowie stali się Niemcami, to kurwa rozbiory Polski i nieudacznictwo polskiej nauki i archeologii.

Nie wiń mnie za to.

>>66865946
>The Vandals who left what is now Poland during the age of migration
Chronicles say that a part of them returned to their home on the Vistula river. They lived there with the Sarmatians and then the Venedi arrived and assimilated them by numbers = they became known as Lechitic tribes aka West Slavs.

>>66866095
>mówili germańskim językiem
>wodzowie mieli germańskie imiona
>MOI PRZODKOWIE ;)

k

>>66866026

Yeah, a "small offshot" according to your own source. Those few were later assimilated by Western Slavs. Apparently, that means Vandals = Western Slavs or something.

>rest of them returned later on back to Poland after they got kicked out from Africa

Where did you get that?

>during Gaiseric’s rule in 439-477 an embassy of Vandals from journeyed to Africa from their ancestral abodes to assured themselves that their kinsmen did not intend to return North.

From another forum
>
Just because medieval authors mixed the names it doesnt mean wends=vandals or that wends have anything to do with vandals. I can say you some examples of this.

-the word vlach is related to the english and german word welsh,
yet vlach in hungarian means: romanian and welsh means in english: inhabitant of Wales/Cymru and welsh in middle high german means: latin stranger, ie. french or italian.

-16th century polish were called sarmatians in humanist works,yet polish people is not related to sarmatians

-Byzantian authors named hungarians as Paiones, and Hungary = Paionia.
Paionia=Pannonia in latin. But medieval hungarians surely were not celts..


so long story short OP is a retard

Shranjeno. Hvala.

>>66866454
>Those few were later assimilated by Western Slavs
No, they were assimilated by PROTO-Slavs, the Vened >>66862926 >>66862982 and the Venedi + Vandals + Sarmatians became known as Lechites, whom were West Slavs as the Slavic identity or classification fromed around 500 AD, after they. They weren't Slavs before they merged, they formed into Slavs after they merged.

>>66865835
Poles = Wends = Vandals = East Germanics

>>66866830
Venedi (PROTO-SLAVS AKA BALTO-SLAVS) =/= Wends (WEST SLAVS)
If anything, Venedi -> Wends, but they are from two completely different periods. Again, the Venedi weren't Slavs, they were proto-Slavs, before the Baltic and Slavic split of Balto-Slavs. But Wends were Slavs living during the time of the Lechitic tribes, many hundreds of years after the Balto-Slavic split.

Poles attacked tanks with sabres.

>>66866769
Mislil tole >>66852687

Average pole has 20 IQ

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>>66867004
Sure thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZfeU6LgzeY

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>>66867284
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wz._35_anti-tank_rifle

slav = slave

wend is old norse for ''village retard''

vandal is a germanic word meaning ''faggot''

I'm a history major.

>>66866825
It's irrelevant. Vandals (who presumably came from Scandinavia) assimilated a considerable number of "Proto-Slavs" and migrated through Europe and Africa.

Later, a few remaining Vandals were assimilated by their neighbours.

Neither of those warrant the statement Poles=Vandals or Vandals=West Slavs or whatever.

>They weren't Slavs before they merged, they formed into Slavs after they merged.

Why exactly is the transition from Proto-Slavic to Slavic (which would be a gradual process anyway) dependent on said merging anyway?

>>66850610
Stop embarrassing my country you fuckin uneducated piece of braindead retard. Kys

>>66855031
>(besides pan-european germanic words like "war")
we don't use any germanic word for war

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>>66850610
I am literally part germanic no meme

>>66862216
>+ Sarmatians
Nope. These fairy tales have been refuted by genetics long ago.

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>>66868017
Also part roman

>>66867520
>and migrated through Europe and Africa.
And many came back according to chronicles.
>Later, a few remaining Vandals were assimilated by their neighbours.
Something like that.
>Neither of those warrant the statement Poles=Vandals or Vandals=West Slavs or whatever.
Yep, more like Poles are the descendants Vandals, going far back in time.

>>66867520
>Why exactly is the transition from Proto-Slavic to Slavic
The formation of a distinguished Baltic and Slavic language from a common Balto-Slavic language.

>>66868031
No they have not, quite to the contrary. It's a fact that Sarmatians settled on the Vistula river.

>>66867826

Never said so. And that was not the question. Polish your eyes, faggot.
I used that as an example, because it is a word that exists in Spanish, French, Catalan, Portuguese, Italian... I never implied it (specifically "war") exists in yours.
It is a general cognate that does not really say anything about the relationship, of one of those language in specific, with the Germanic languages.

What is relevant is to find "isolated" cognates, like it happens, for example, with many words in Catalan and French.

this thread belongs in /x/

slavs = slaves

>>66868492

>And many came back according to chronicles.

Which chronicle claims a mass return? Anyway, they didn't seem to have left much of a trace. >>66859561 states that I2a2a was a prominent haplogroup of the Vandals, but it doesn't seem to be common among modern Poles.

>more like Poles are the descendants Vandals

And Serbs and Spaniards are the descendants of Goths. Duh

>>66868599

And that was caused by the assimilation of some Vandals and Sarmatians? Is there any linguist who supports that theory?

If poles are vandals can I be ostrogothic?

>>66869648
Gypsie.

>>66869760
That's rude

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>>66850610
>>66869648
>East Germanic polacks
>Roman Romanians
Halloween is over, you mongoloids.

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>>66850610
>Croats can join too
But we're Irano-Illyrians.

This thread is stupid, people arguing in this thread are morons, this will never be a general and Poles who thin they they are Germanic should go and live in Germany. Seriously, it's quite near and we have open borders.

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>>66869648
you can vandalize poles

>>66870162
That picture...

>>66870143
Poles who think they are slavshits should go and live in Russia

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>>66868649
Yes they have, my friend.
If you think that genetics supports your claims, then FYI:
Sarmatians and other Iranic peoples turned out to be of Asian Z93 subclade of R1a while Poles belong to different, European Z283 subclade. Z93 is not ancestral to Z283 or vice versa, instead they are parallel clades on the same "level" what can be clearly seen on pic rel.
Sarmatian haplogroup R1a-Z93 is almost non-existent in Poland, there's also literally 0 Sarmatian/Scythian/Iranian admixture in Poles.
All above means that Sarmatians are not ancestors of Poles and that they did not contribute to the Polish gene pool.
Sorry to burst your bubble. You just have to accept that wewuzing of Szlachta have nothing to do with reality.

>>66876469
Well although I agree with you that Sarmatians didn't significantly contribute to the Polish pool, haplogroups aren't really the way to go about proving it - the absence of the Sarmatian subclade of R1a could could potentially mean that Poles or Proto-Slavs or whatever you want to call them killed off large portions of the Sarmatian male population and absorbed the remaining population, thus ensuring that the Sarmatian male haplogroup did not enter the Polish population in large frequencies. That being said, I still highly doubt that this or any other kind of mixing occurred to such a degree that it could be said Poles are "part Sarmatian".

>>66876469
>Z93 is not ancestral to Z283 or vice versa, instead they are parallel clades on the same "level" what can be clearly seen on pic rel.
No shit.
>Sarmatian haplogroup R1a-Z93 is almost non-existent in Poland,
Is it NONEXISTENT or is it ALMOST nonexistent? Poles come mostly from Venedi, and they assimilated the few renaming Sarmatians. I never claimed Poles came mostly from Sarmatians, but partly, as in some Sarmatians mixed with the Vandals and Venedi when they arrived and became the dominant tribe. Also this >>66876784

>>66850669
>They don't realize that the actual Germanics had to leave when we had to give away the clay again and again.