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PISA 2015 A SNEAK PREVIEW

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Just a little more than one month before results are released, what do you expect? Is your country gonna be better or worse? More equal or unequal? New countries like Lebanon, Dominican Republic and Algeria did participate in this round, how do you think they are going to perform? and what about new subnational units like Beijing, Jiangsu and Guangdong? Do you think they are going to perform as high as Shanghai?

http://www.slideshare.net/OECDEDU/pisa-2015-a-sneak-preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4RGqzaNEtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yhiGj-252k
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>>66801674
Here's a snapshot of the results in 2012 in mathematics
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>>66801736
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>mfw i took part of that exam and purposedly answered it all wrong because 2kewl4skool

Kek
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>>66802181
you know they can detect "bullshit" on these international surveys right? probably they just tested another random kid in another random school
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>>66802234
Lel, i was just a kid m8, all i wanted to do was play vidya
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>>66801746
>Northern Ireland

Brits really did a number on that place.
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>>66801674
What is this and why would anyone care about it?
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>>66801674
If we rank lower than DR i'm killing myself
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>>66801736
>>66801746
>Austria below Germany
more like dumbstrians lmao
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>>66802568
probably not, DR has been performing pretty bad in LLECE surveys if that says something
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>>66801674
We are shit at puzzles as always
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>>66802657
actually Russia performs really high in TIMMS compared to PISA
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>tfw your country is to smart too do well on PISA
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>>66802729
>tfw all those smart performer are Asian immigrants
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At least we are participating this time around. :(
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>>66802729
not everything is about being smart
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>>66802657
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It's something. Niggers and mudslimes are lowering the scores though.
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>>66803837
>muh shitskins excuse
really?
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>>66803868
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>>66803868
>>66801674
These indexes and so on are horribly miscounted.

Take education in Germany and now take education in Vietnam or whatever shithole you want.
>In Germany they choose random schools where they conduct the test and get some sorta precise result.

>In Vietnam 50% if retarded 14 year old ditched school long time ago to work at local construction
>The rest who stayed in school pursuing education rather than work (because they can allow it) will probably be from middle class+
>And then PISA/OECD comes by and selects random schools, which by sheer elimination are gonna be elitist in their own country

I dont who takes these tests but I would wage its about 15-16 year olds.

>>66803868
2nd Gen immigrants before big immigration wave are productive? Oh no shit, Its the elite of the region they escaped from.
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>>66804496
Yes, it's true that the sample from Vietnam is only covering around 50% of the total 15 years old population of Vietnam, but still those samples are not elitist at all
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>>66804625
>>66804496
those 50% are still living in worse conditions compared to the OECD average
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I wait for the day we crash out of the ranking for good so we can stop being autistic about it.
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>>66804701
of all the participating countries-economies, Finland is the one (just behind Sweden) that has dropped its performance the most
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>>66804625
The numbers are gonna be much much higher.
Bureaucracy in those countries is different than bureaucracy here.

Go to Brazil to some favela and try to get some IDs from people living there, last time they were accounted for anywhere
was in the year they were born, that is if they werent born home. And if anyone will have any identification it will be long
expired or any other way obsolete.

You cant really trust these results at all.
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>>66804778
>muh fake
ok
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>>66802181
why would you do such a thing?
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>>66804818
Well at least your argumentation prowess is on par with your countrymen according to PISA.

Only correct way to conduct such research would be to take some income group adjusted PPP and adjusted as the X% of the country.
Even this would have to be done regionally because disparity between social classes in countries is different.
If you took East Coast America 21 year olds from top 3-5% income group you would just get bunch of Ivy League cunts toppling over
the whole world, while in any more socialist (European/Eastern European) country you would get results much lower.

I dont really see a way this research could be done globally and adjusted correctly.
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and actually GDP per capita or spending per students just explains between 20-25% of the variance among countries and is way less among developed countries, the OECD has done calculations on how would be the performance of every acountry-economy if they had the same socioeconomic status as the OECD average, and actually the big picture does not change that much
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>>66805029
>>66805004
Still I dont believe any globally adjusted index, differences are just too high.

Provide me the formula used to calculate this, then I can dissect it further.
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>>66804778
>Bureaucracy in those countries is different than bureaucracy here.
This, even in Australia we have a tonne of schools finding ways to fuck with the results of NAPLAN tests (country-wide stadardised tests for primary/high school students) to make themselves appear better than they really are, for example by advising parents of less intelligent students to stay at home on test days and various other tricks. There is very little chance countries with rampant corruption and a poorly developed bureaucracy would not try to manipulate their results in one way or another. And although I don't have any evidence to back it up, based off the nature of the Chinese government and the attitudes of East Asian (mainly Chinese) students in Australia towards cheating in order to appear the "smartest", I would not be surprised in the slightest if they had meddled with their results somehow.
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>>66805344
Well corruption of PISA and OECD and falsifying data is thing we cant really affect.

After all the only thing to go by is the good old "index" called "Where do the legs carry those brains"
and unfortunately all those shitholes scoring so high will find themselves pouring out all those people like infection.

I am not saying the shitholes are shitholes because people there are fucking retarded, history has shown us that even smart
people can run their country into the ground pretty successfully (Sweden, Germany - repeatedly, USSR)
but from all my experiences and logical judgement I guess the equation
shitholes = shit people
is pretty applicable.

Unfortunately/Fortunately for some, we are not the medians of the scores of our countries so I dont know why we should advocate
for retards in our communities.

Czech republic is full of stupid niggers, dumb cunts and retards. I would think we boost our national average with some subsidies to PISA
or PÍČA called here also.
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>>66804778

All favelados have ID. If you don't have ID you can't get money from government.
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>literally dividing China and cherrypicking the most affluent and richest parts
(lol
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>>66802234
>Random
Lel
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>>66808176
Yeah it's fucking bullshit. I'd like to see the results if they included the entirety of China.
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>>66804820
Because he's too dumb to get a good result anyway
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>>66804778
>Go to Brazil to some favela and try to get some IDs from people living there, last time they were accounted for anywhere
>was in the year they were born, that is if they werent born home. And if anyone will have any identification it will be long
>expired or any other way obsolete.
Nice one, retard.
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