/balk/

>>66690292
hmmmm

SANGRE PARA SERBIA

lel I greatly enjoy /r/serbia

>Zasto je Srbija siromasna zemlja? Zasto nas hrvati mrze? Zasto je Vucic peder? Ko ja Marija Zezelj?

>>66690418
Translate

>>66690439
>Why is Serbia a poor country? Why do Croats hate us? Why is Vucic a fag? Who is Marija Zelelj?

>>66690439
why is serbia a poor country? why do croats hate us? why is Vucic a faggot? who is marija zezelj

>>66690439
>why is serbia a poor country? why do croats hate us? why is Vucic a faggot? who is marija zezelj

>>66690418
>an unironic fucking redditor
xaxaxa kill yourself you absolute aspie

>>66690505
based kosovar

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>>66690464
>>66690483
>>66690505
>Go to r/serbia
>Big picture of Nikola Tesla on the side

>>66690556
he copied my post

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what did they mean by this?

Cucks, I'm being hosted by two university girls at their home t b h. They will serve me homemade rakia and kebab with my bro. My best bro sleeps with one of them and I'm also invited because the girl she fucks will try to fix me up with her roommate.

Are you jelly?

>>66691002
I may be jelly, but at least I don't have to hate myself everyday for being a shitskin.

>>66691077
>but at least I don't have to hate myself everyday for being a shitskin.

Why should I hate a skin that paved my way to white Slavic pussy before? Cuck.

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>>66691105
bix nood

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>>66691156

>posting posts implying Turks aren't white

Who argues with you idiot? WE ARE NOT WHITE.

Btw, rate me t b h.

>>66691105
>Why should I hate a skin that paved my way to white Slavic pussy before?
lamoo no you didn't

Mili ljude, šta vi mislite za bugari? (self.serbia)
submitted 4 days ago by Wakkoz15

https://www.reddit.com/r/serbia/comments/594zvg/mili_ljude_%C5%A1ta_vi_mislite_za_bugari/

>>66691198

I did tho. With a Belarussian woman. We made some stuff but she didn't let me put the dick in vagoo t b h saying she changed her mind.

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>psychology teacher says she has 88 IQ
>teaches us how all cultures are intelligent, all races, all genders are equal, etc
>to a class of no-females and no-gypsies programmers
>keeps telling us all of this is "facts" and "proven realities"
>i ask her to provide sauce
>she literally cannot

>>66691302

Kek next time ask her if she lets her daughter marry a cigan t b h to see her face frozen.

>>66691302
I had a classmate who was an edgelord and kept telling our commie, old as fuck, history teacher how gassing the kikes was a good thing.

Ja sam pola srbin, pola bugarin, ali više mi se sviđa kao kazvam da sam ja srbin i uvijek sam se pitao šta je uglavnom razpoloženije u Srbiji protiv bugarima?

>>66691302

do you mean 188 dinko

>>66691356
>I had a classmate who was an edgelord and kept telling our commie, old as fuck, history teacher how gassing the kikes was a good thing.

My Turkish teacher in high school was a leftie sjw t b h and I called Orhan Pamuk a traitor Armenian seed in her exam that had a question about Orhan Pamuk. She failed me.

But my prayers were nothing in vain because she was cucked by her husband kekeke and they are now divorced.

>>66691386
they don't like us because they are autists

>>66691474
they say they don't like us because we are like them

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>>66691002
>Are you jelly?
let me analyze your blogpost, my friend

>homemade rakia
turks are well known for having shit rakia making skills. You will be served what we here call "patok", it will give you no enjoyment from drinking it due to the low alcohol level in it and will give you terrible headache on the next day.

>kebab
in turkish that means some shit smelly goat/lamb meat no normal person on the balkans would eat. Everything different than pork for kebab is literally considered dog food.

>My best bro sleeps with one of them
while he could slept with you, if you didn't pussy out when he called you on wine and comfy fireplace warmness. You blew it, Effendi. You blew it big time, and now he have to fuck a girl he doesn't like, instead of fucking you.

>try to fix me up with her roommate
Her roommate is a hamplanet and you know it. She'll want you to eat her, and eating a literal meat curtain is never enjoyable for the male. Because you are... you know... you are you, you will sperg out about her plans, spill the spaghetti and start drawing her zodiac predictions for 2017.
She'll get bored, being absolutely sure you are gay, and even if you arent a gay (we all know you are, but let's just pretend you arent) she'll spread a rumor that you are.

That being said, I now can give you a answer to your question:
>Are you jelly?
No.

So, after we clear that out, here's a better suggestion from your bulgarian friend:
Call your fuckbud... i mean, your "bro" and invite him to have a game of FIFA 2017.
In the meantime, go get a bottle of wine, and cover your bed in rose petals. When he arrive, just grab him by the shoulders and throw him on your petal covered bed. Tell him you can't go like that forever and present him your tender boipucci.

Just don't think about it and do it, m8

is Queens a bulgarian company? (the juice)

says made in EU and the only site is .bg
but there's also a bg distributor

Slavs, may I ask you, wtf is pastet?

>>66691563
its a borough in new york city

>>66691563
we need to gas the juice 2bh

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>>66691513

No need to fight a lost cause t b h. You killed me you son of a bitch.

>>66691002
>drinking alcohol
absolutely haram
you are the reason there is no caliphate anymore

Total found oil in our part of the black sea, that's it for us niggers, stay poor alone

>>66691579
spam
it's fucking delicious

>>66691615
Forgot link
http://m.offnews.bg/news/Ikonomika_59/Otkriha-neft-v-Cherno-more_638717.html

>>66691615
boyko already knew
why do you think he's been shitposting about that hub so much
>inb4 USA invades us

>>66691630

https://youtu.be/FfOTmfwRTFs

I was watching this one and commenter bellow seemed to agree with you. Sounds tasty

New Bulgarian subhumanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5pMbUFoZM

>>66691654
>doesn't say how much
that's not the question here
the question is which foreign company are we gonna let profit off of it and then stay poor and irrelevant

>>66691692
>new
also https://addons.mozilla.org/en-uS/firefox/addon/video-blocker/

>>66691739
Nah it brings jobs and some billions even after stealing

>>66691579
grinded into paste meat then cooked. It's usually made out of pork or chicken, but it always contains the following products: hoofs, ears, tails, nails, viscera, udders, penises and pussy lips, toilet paper, rubber boots, mercury thermometers, production line parts (including nuts, bolts and washers), chemical waste, and many more

Overall, it's p.good eating when served on a toast.

>>66691773
>jobs
what a time to be a truck driver
>inb4 you imply there are petroleum engineers in bulgaria

>three skyscrapers over 200m to be built
>oil found

2017 will be the year of Bulgaria
Stay poor Plebs

>>66691811
>what a time to be a truck driver

Was one of my three dream jobs t b h.

1. Taxi Driver
2. Fireman
3. Truck Driver but my father killed my dreams t b h.

>>66691798
don't forgot eye lashes

>>66691692
why didn't you post their song that fits /balk/ at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr2QwPaLk-c

>>66691811
If you had the slightest clue of how much personal is required to drill oil I'd start arguing as I work on such projects every month, but I won't as you are plain dumb

>>66691841
>three skyscrapers over 200m to be built

you can't even build a 200m flag pole tatar who are you kidding

>>66691889
-t. secretary

>>66691798
So eating everything is why Slavs literally won ww2?

>>66691921
greeks won too i think

>>66691900
Stay jelly, nigger

Bulgarian theme song 2017
https://youtu.be/0uILa9-J784

>>66691615
Oil in the black sea huh? Large reserves? Timetable of when are you going to begin extraction? Will it be an entirely private endeavor or is the state going to have a part in it?

>>66692005
For the sake of historical accuracy, I'll admit Russian offensive was the one that won the war, since the rest Allies had it kinda tough

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>>66691921
i doubt eating sub products helped in WWII. It's probably more of the slav's way of life.
Pic related has pretty much the same ingredients, but with less meat and more butthole rings and nipples.

>>66692104
if some stank brownskins from arabia could extract oil the bulgarians can do it too but oil is shit now

>>66692132

>implying anyone won the WWII
>implying it is not Hitler lost it

It was all Hitler's mistake t b h.

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does anyone know where it was found
should go and get a few buckets

>>66692196
>i doubt eating sub products helped in WWII
feeding an army is always important
especially if it tastes as dope as pastet

>>66692209
Jews won

>>66692209
>Hitler
>mistake
literally nothing wrong

>>66692210
turkey took all da water

>>66692030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYWUUCoUfyY

My favorite bulgarian character in GTA

>>66692199
Oil isn't just fuel. Oil is in almost everything you see in front of your eyes.

>>66692104
Large it seems

>>66691900
Why are you so mad? The better we are the better you become to some extent as well. Look at CZ and how they are doing because of Germany and Austria around.

>>66692209
America won big time.Not by actually winning battles but by being too far away.

It is a shame that Turkey still exists.If we are lucky in WW III Turkey will be removed from the map and will be turned into an irradiated glass desert.

>>66692457
>irradiated glass desert
israel*
ftfy

>>66692405
This is the best thing I saw on the internet today

>>66692210
Border tension with Turkey will be on the rise.

>>66692199
When we do it, we have a good government.

Your governments are corrupted as fuck and would be shilled by other people.

Don't think that just because we Arabs are wealthy it'll be easy for you.
Most countries that have oil are very poor. Look at Nigeria, Venezuela, Iran, etc. They have more oil than we do.

>>66692506
unlikely
they don't cause us too much trouble (except for a minority political party that nobody takes seriously, which just tries to scheme us, sell our forests to turkey, etc)

>>66692552
I'm Albanian and I hate you brown people

>>66692609
I never asked, nor do I care.

>>66692506
That means exclusive US protection for us from now on. Should have seen it coming, these weeks suddenly ah come join Euro Bulgaria, come join Schengen Bulgaria, visa drop Canada for Bulgarians, EU control monitoring for us will be stopped next year although we didn't achieve shit in terms of law reforms, Russians save us 100M penalty fee on a reactor we bought and didn't want afterwards

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>>66692552

>>66692552
Nigger we arent Venezuela or Nigeria, don't you worry

>>66692679
get ready to top that list bitches

>>66692679
Russians have so much and still subhuman

>>66692679
Proven oil and gas reserves =/= Output

Just putting that out there.
I'm from the UAE, and we have smaller proven reserves than most oil-rich countries.


The oil is just the method. It's what you do with the oil and how you use it that's important. It applies to all resources.
If your government is corrupt, you're better off not having any resources at all and just following the Japanese model.

>>66692717
I never said you are. What I am saying is that Venezuela's and Nigeria's present conditions are somewhat due to their oil-wealth.

Oil wealth opens the floodgates of corruption, colonialism, and other issues (both domestic and external).

>>66692809
if trump gets elected will you die?

Guys guys it's like Vanga said all the time, 2017 a woman will be head of state and we will start rising. OMG it's all true. Macedonia will be Bulgarian during my lifetime.

>>66692765
>>66692809
Fuck off from the thread islamic mexican

>>66692854
>a woman will be head of state
wrong

>>66692809
I know that but here the oil companies can't make such a mess, we're in the EU after all. Our politicians steal as well, but they'll make sure we get our fair share.

>>66692854
she also said a nigger will be the last us president
>tfw the loominati is getting memed by the last macedonian prophet

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He look at me like he's judging me

>>66692565
>>66692650
Cool

>>66692932
just take the eyes out
????
profit

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>>66692932

>>66692932
Say to it: What? It's not my fault you took the bait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWOyM_9-_w0

>>66692871
>>66692853
No.
>>66692892
That's good. And make sure you own that oil and don't let anyone give you shit for it.
The only people who complain about oil-rich countries being wealthy are people who are butthurt that God wasn't kind to them.

>>66692887
Wrong my ass ofc Ceca will win

>>66692910
Obama is just the first nigga president, nobody knows if it's the last and also those two predictions aren't connected

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Our german president is literally Hitler!

>>66693277
Something in this guy is very unsettling. A feeling deep down tells me he isn't a friend of Romania.

>>66693303
>Something in this guy is very unsettling
lmao he just looks like your typical socially autistic german 2bh

>>66693277
Didn't he say that he supports homogay now?

>>66693303
I think its from the "german superiority complex" every single german has. I feel like Klaus secretly hates ethnic romanians deep down.

>>66693303
maybe it's because he hates communists

>>66693370

he looks very romanian...

Taтapи кoлкy пapи ќe вaдитe oд бeнзинoт

>>66693303
He sat on a work of art to take a picture with the rules near him stating it's not allowed. So at least we know he doesn't give a fuck.
>>66693390
Heard something on the news in the background about gays so yeah probably.

>Bulgar is your nation's language,traditions and culture mainly turkish?
>Ofcourse not, hai siktir!

>>66693421
no he doesn't lmfao

>>66693467

He does, he's your typicall north-west romanian...

>>66693488
he doesn't look even a little romanian and i just looked it up and turns out i was right lmfao

he's german

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>>66693451
sunt hilari lol

>>66693488
>north-west romanian

i love these memes. like north serbian and north italian and north french, every ideal in europe is from the north

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>>66692986
i'm not a Greek

OOOOOOOOOO, GET IT?

>>66693554

All minorities from Romania are just romanians who switched language.

His face is probably the most common face here.

>>66693618

dahai sane maibatem jocde eilol

This Albanian girl invited me over to her house.

What do

>>66693660
secure your kidneys

>>66693639
>blonde with blue eyes
>most common
>in Romania
kek i don't think so m8

>>66693717

And how do YOU know it's not the most common?You're just a small minded chauvinist bulgarian, who has no idea of the reality.

>>66693713
but she asked me to help her with physics

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>>66693446
>He sat on a work of art to take a picture
>Is German

That's how it all begins

>>66693660
sure she did gypsy

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>>66693006

>>66693784
>how do YOU know
not him, but I've been to Romania

>>66694055

And you visited what?Constanta?

Top kek my swarthy bulgar friend.

>>66693639
No. Germans are german settlers from medieval times or when Austria cucked you.

>>66694016
Do you eat the eyeball after it's been cooked?

>>66694055
where? to Giurgiu? Those people caught the brown being so close to Blackgaria

>>66694016
>ljuta
kekom sekoi pat

>>66694100

This is a myth.

>>66694091
When I look at your national team not many look like Johannis...

>>66694115
>>66694091
romanians calling bulgarian swarthy is like nigerians calling cameroonians niggers

>>66694149
i've met romanians abroad
they're 50/50
kind of like us

>>66694091
>>66694115
I've traveled through the entire country on my way to Poland. I had Romanians in uni. I see your folks here and in Greece.

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Romanians are right, average Romanian looks like a German and has a German name, but is Romanian. Pic related is just the exception

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>>66694149
we are nordic, what are you talking about?

>>66694149

Only gypsies play football.

>>66694176

or like Boers calling namibians niggers.Note, Boer are actually dacians, they come from Burebista, a known dacian leader.(Boerebistes - boer = lord)...

>>66694102
wtf? also don't they become hard as rock when cooked? I know people eating the cheeks, tho.

WHERE DA MAKEDONIAN ANONS @@@

>>66693639
fazacu scrisullegat freacatraducerea?

oricum, bagpula in criptoturci lol

>>66694016
>Blurred eyeballs

Not very fresh desu

>>66694357

n-osa meargasa traducadaca elegat

>>66694320
Yeah you spit that part out but i chew on it anyway. Supposedly it has a lot of phosphorus. I'm talking about that soft stuff around the hard part.

>>66694438
nu vrei sa le ranesti sentimentele vecinilor maronii de la sud?

>>66694534
>maronii
vrei sa spui tigani scarbosi din turcia, chiar sper sa traduca asta

Halloween sale!

>the two greatest bulgarian revolutionaries are born in Plovdiv oblast

Why are people from the upper thracian lowland such ubermenschen, lads?

>>66694874
because we're descendants of the noble thracians while others are just subhuman slavs

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>>66694970

>>66693914
why do you doubt?

>>66694970
>noble
>not absolute subhumans

>Thracians were regarded by other people as warlike, ferocious, and bloodthirsty.[28][29] They were seen as "barbarians" by ancient Greeks and Romans. Plato in his Republic considers them, along with the Scythians,[30] extravagant and high spirited and his Laws considers them war-like nations grouping them with Celts, Persians, Scythians, Iberians and Carthaginians.[31] Polybius wrote of Cotys's sober and gentle character being unlike that of most Thracians.[32] Tacitus in his Annals writes of them being wild, savage and impatient, disobedient even to their own kings.[33]

>Polyaenus and Strabo write how the Thracians broke their pacts of truce with trickery.[34][35] The Thracians struck their weapons against each other before battle, in the Thracian manner, as Polyaneus testifies.[36] Diegylis was considered one of the most bloodthirsty chieftains by Diodorus Siculus. An Athenian club for lawless youths was named after the Triballi.[37]

>According to ancient Roman sources, the Dii[38] were responsible for the worst[39] atrocities of the Peloponnesian War killing every living thing, including children and the dogs in Tanagra and Mycalessos.[38] Thracians would impale Roman heads on their spears and rhomphaias such as in the Kallinikos skirmish at 171 BC.[40] Herodotus writes that "they sell their children and let their maidens commerce with whatever men they please".[41]

>>66694399
not much cipura (none at all, actually) swimming in our more, lad

>>66694510
you might be trolling me right now, but i'm not scared from eating stuff so will probably try it.
Tomorrow, tho, today's menu is salmon steaks.

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i'm in fyrom guys u jelly

>>66694775
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198103749663/wishlist

meh, desu

>>66695110
BIG MACEDONIAN TRAFFIC JAM

wish i was you, desu

>>66695225
why? it's a shit country with nothing to do there

>>66695185
>ELEX
I won't take the Piranha Bytes bait again.

>>66695108
Not shitting you

>Shanghai-born food blogger Chichi Wang relishes fish eyes: "The trick to eating a fish eyeball is to keep it in your mouth for as long as possible," she writes. "A rush of fatty fish flavor is accompanied by a gelatinous, spongy texture. Swallow too quickly and you'll miss the nuances."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/03/06/172902511/eating-eyeballs-taboo-or-tasty

>>66695319
yea, it's more of a "i'll add this shit to wishlist and never actually buy it"
most of the games left in my wishlist are like that desu

>>66695320
will try then
also i really like to try a fish soup, but cooked properly

>>66695042
lmao literal cucks
>>66693660
she has herpes

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>T*rana

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What thracian tribe were the bulgars?

>>66695804

They need that superior serb cock in them.This siptar sluts probably crave the superior yugoslav neighbors.

>>66695837
galatean imbecil

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>>66695859

h-how

>>66695804
>tfw no albanian gf

>>66695804
nice 1950s crumbling commieblock reminds me of some gypsy ghettos

>>66695837
Galatean imbecil

>>66695807
Moesi. They were literally called like that by Byzantium.

>>66695925
That doesn't look like a gypsy ghetto, gypsies don' t have stairs

>>66695807
I in particular am from the region where the Maedi lived. Although it has been literally two thousands years since then, and I don't care about haplogroup autism maps.

>>66696056

And byzantines called russians scythian kek

Seriously now, I mean the "bulgarian" name, what thracian tribes were the bulgarians??

>>66695807
>>66696056
nah there was like 1000 tribes in bulgaria alone

>>66696183
triballi

>>66696234

but ou are bulgarians, not triballi, else you would have been called so.Aren't you people just turks(bulgars) who were slavonised by serbs?

>>66696266
Da.

>>66696266
>.Aren't you people just turks(bulgars) who were slavonised by serbs?
what the actual fuck

>>66696202
> Пpeз Cpeднoвeкoвиeтo eднo oт apхaичнитe имeнa, чecтo изпoлзвaни oт визaнтийcкитe aвтopи зa oбoзнaчaвaнe нa бългapитe, e „мизи“ - нapeд cъc „cкити“, „миpмидoнци“ и дpyги. Зa пpъв път тoвa имe ce пoявявa пpи Лъв Дякoн пpeз втopaтa пoлoвинa нa Х вeк. B нaчaлoтo нa XI вeк в „Пoхвaлнo cлoвo” нa Фoтий Tecaлийcки кaтo „мизийcки нapoд“ ca oпpeдeлeни пoдaницитe нa цap Caмyил.[6] B „Иcтopиятa” нa Mихaил Aтaлиaт ce твъpди, чe бългapитe ca мизи, кoитo пo-къcнo пoлyчили cвoeтo нoвo нaзвaниe.[7]

>>66696183
>>66696266
Stop being autistic please

>>66696305

siktir

>>66696266
nah most of the turkic tribes actually settled in modern romania

not much turkic influence here

>>66696122
yes they do
>>66696266
who wants to be a LITERAL cuck thracian
They wuz slavicized by 7 slavic tribes not serbs or croats

>>66695804
Nice nice

>>66696346

sorry budy, we arent the ones named after the first turkic nomads that decided to shit here

>>66696347

thats 19th century propaganda...

>>66696409
>The Romani (also spelled Romany; /ˈroʊməni/, /ˈrɒ-/), or Roma, are a traditionally nomadic ethnic group, living mostly in Europe and the Americas and originating from the northern regions of the Indian subcontinent,[52][53][54] presumably from where the states Rajasthan, Haryana, and Punjab exist today.[53][54] The Romani are widely known among English-speaking people by the exonym "Gypsies" (or "Gipsies") or Romanians, which some people consider pejorative due to its connotations of illegality and irregularity.[55]

>>66696409
Romans were turks

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>>66696409
South of the Danube: culture.
North of the Danube: sheep fucking.

>>66696515
This is kinda correct when you think about it. romanians never had empires or any cultural achivements until they were brought to relevacy in the 20th century with massive breeding after they crawled out of their caves. they're basically albos

>>66696567

we had the second vlacho-bulgarin empire of Ioanitza Caloian.

>>66696613
It's sad how much is lost, really. We autists can sperg out as much as want, but we'll never know the details.

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>>66696613

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>>66696567

you can thank the russians and the turks for that. They took turn burning our cities or having wars on our teritory like every 2 years

>>66696567
yeah but unlike albos theyre now a decent country
First world potential once they send all the Gypsies to Western Europe

>>66696697
Shortly before Bulgaria fell to the Byzantines in the 11th century, Russ sacked Preslav while the war with the romei was in the South.

>>66696780
romanians didn't exist back when russians were still called rus and greeks were called romei

>>66696844
yeah yeah i know, i am just showing that we are traditionally positioned between two large aggressive powers

>>66696844
>The first record of a medieval Romance language in the Balkans dates to the early Byzantine period, with Procopius (500–565) mentioning forts with names such as Skeptekasas (Seven Houses), Burgulatu (Broad City), Loupofantana (Wolf's Well) and Gemellomountes (Twin Mountains).[15][16] A 586 Byzantine chronicle of an incursion against the Avars in the eastern Balkans may have one of the earliest references to Vlachs. In the account, when baggage carried by a mule slipped the muleteer shouted: "Torna, torna, fratre!" ("Return, return, brother!").[17][18][19] Byzantine historians used the Germanic Vlachs for Latin speakers, particularly Romanians.[20][21][22]

>>66696567
It's hard to do anything when you're surrounded by subhumans (pagans, muslims and catholics) and you're being invaded over and over again. Still, we managed to create two states and survive for so long.

>>66696891
literally not romanians

>>66696891
Romanians are citizen of Romania. Vlachs are Latin speakers from different EE countries. You cannot equate the two, based on the language you adopted.

>>66696891

>falling for his poor crafter bait >>66696844
>>66697028

if we didnt exist, then how do you exist, since your country was formed by romanian elites?

>>66697084
I thought we were formed by Turks and Serbs?

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>>66697028

>>66697084
how the fuck is it bait, autismo?

>>66697028
When did we adopt our language?

>>66697192

Do you have autism or are you just dumb?

>>66697146

Let me clarify it:
Population:turk
Language:mongrelised serbian
Ruling elite: romanian

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tfw no friends
cum pula mea isi face unul prieteni in 2016? Imi explicati si mie va rog?

>>66697324
1. Nu fi autistic
Asta e tot

>>66697324

i can be your anonymous friend on /balk/

>>66697250
you seem to be the one who has autism lmfao romanians didn't exist back then and the pechenego-cumano-magyar-avaric people that lived in the territory of modern romania were irrelevant and only existed to be ruled by other people

thanks to the latinization of romanian, they now think they're descendants of romans or dacians

you're the one who has autism

>>66697409

Keep entertaining me monkey, with your delusional stories.

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>>66697370
serios, cum pula mea fac?
M-am saturat sa stau acasa vinerea si sa belesc pula la PC. Le-am zis la vreo 5 acu o saptamana sa mergem la o bere si toti cu scuze si cacaturi

>>66697383
thats nice of you

>>66697445
whats the oldest romanian written document? or finding.

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>>66697409
>Place names have latin suffixes
>Family names have latin suffixes
>Infrastrucutral polities historically had latin terms like "tara", "tinut" and "cetate"
>One of our earliest historical rulers is called "Barbat", which means "man" or "bearded one"
>Italian monks in the 16th century touring the principalities were calling the inhabitants "latin speakers"
>But according to meme pros on int we are slavs that decided to be latin in the 19th century

>>66697539
Neacsu's letter, from 1500's. Oldest surviving written in vernicular that we have found and, other than the formal greetings at the beginning and end, it's written in romanian and it's almost entirely similar to modern romanian.

>>66697445
Fuck off Hungarian prick. Transylvania will never be Hungary again.

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>Hungary sends insult
>Go to war with hungary just to give serbia/bosnia/bohemia more land and humiliate them

lel

>>66697591
then pretty much 1500's is when you can claim to be born as an identity. everything before that is just unreliable.

>>66697539

How is this relevant to our discussion?Official documents appear when you have a cancellary.You realise there are populations way older than yours that barely have any written documents?

>>66697630

how do you come to this conclusion?

>>66697591
>everyone in Romania was speaking Latin
No, it was a conscious nation building effort that happened relatively late.

>>66697618
Just take all the land for yourself the ai always betrays you

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>>66697665

where is the proof nigger?

>there are people this stupid

>>66697539
>>66697591
>>66697613
>>66697630
>>66697640
reeeeeeeee who cares faggots answer my question

>>66697324

>>66697630
It's not "unreliable", there's just no fucking information. An illiterate population doesn't suddenly decide to create a new identity based on an ancient people.

>>66697665
I didn't say everyone in romania was speaking latin. I said we were speaking ROMANIAN, a latin based language that from the eastern romance branch.

>>66697640
sure. but if you dont have proof you dont make claims - you have guesses.

>>66697740

this applies to you.

>>66697704
without proof you cant know exactly what that illiterate population was. or what they did. oral tradition is very unreliable and changes with every telling. and yes illiterate populations do tend to create a new identity. and that new identity is pretty much what the first written works were.

>>66697740
We have hungarian and papal documents from the 13th century that speak of romanian (vlach) polities in the territories of today's southern and western transylvania, wallachia and moldova.

>inb4 hur you aren't vlahs xdddd

Vlach is an exonym for romance speaking peoples, and we are the direct continuation of the people who build political entities in the areas of today's Romania.

>>66697765
i never claimed anything, apart from the claim that written documents are the only proof for cultures. maybe youre confusing me for another anon.

EEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAARAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHEEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGG

>>66697793

are you dumb or just trolling?

What proof do you need?Read any encyclopedia or start with wiki if you can't afford it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Romanian-language

You bulgarians are literally the mongrel off-spring of romanians, who were slavonised.

>>66697839

> that written documents are the only proof for cultures.

prove this.

>>66697679
Nah, I like doing "historical border" campaigns. Liberation of Moldova is next.

>>66697665
>Latin influence until 4th century AD
>???
>14th century AD, Wallachia under control of Latin speaking prince

>>66697834
the expansion of christianity erased a lot of native tradition. pretty much all the papal documents that came at first were missionaries who villified and changed greatly what the native tradition and culture was, to further the influence of christianity. im not saying those documents in particular are wrong, but without further inspection a dose of healthy criticism is necessary. also make up your mind on which is the first document in romanian.

>>66697878
>You bulgarians are literally the mongrel off-spring of romanians, who were slavonised.
Wew lad.

>>66697765
bulgarians have an established history 13 centuries old, well recorded and by thousands of different sources, whereas romanians don't

whereas romanians have
>dude our area was a cum rag for cumans pechenegs avars magyars, bulgars, rus and slavs
>i know, we'll base our country after the bum-fuck sheepherders who hid in the mountains and we'll claim we're daco-roman because why not pham lmfao

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRZdMT51Hw8

Have you #WalkedaKilometerInHerShoes, /balk/?

We're so progressive and pro-equality and freedom of speech that we've banned comments and likes/dislikes on our video :)

>>66697944

Cut to the subject.

>>66697959

history of you being mongrelised by turkic bulgars, and latter shat on by every Empire.

>>66697878
why dont you read it? early history starts in the 1500's.
what do you think pre-history means?

>>66698055

read what

>>66698034
eh? if you want me to repeat my statement then ill repeat it - you dont have history without written documents. anything before that is unreliable.

gypsies are right though bulgarians are literally turkish rapebabies

>>66698034
>shat on by every empire
see there's nothing that can prove that, whereas romania's whole history consist of being shat upon by every empire

which balkan country has best qts

>>66698093
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language#Early_history

>>66698099

>you dont have history without written documents, anything before that is unreliable.

and who are you to decide this statement is even close to truth?

>>66698111

except your countries name

>>66698102
>gypsies are right though bulgarians are literally turkish rapebabies
Have you been drinking again at your workplace?

>>66698144
you need someone in particular to tell you this?

>>66698124
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language#Early_history

Read.And?

>>66698102
also pay up the blood tax you inferior balkan turks

>>66698116
Bulgaria and FYROM t b h :D

>>66697944
The fuck are you talking about? The native population was already christian when the hungarians sent missionaries here. They were literally talking about schismatic romanians who followed greek priests already living here before the mongols arrived.

>also make up your mind on which is the first document in romanian.
The fuck? I said it's Neacsu's letter and that's it.

>>66698179

Yes.

>>66698190
I'm talking about women

you're the guy who's obsessed with bulgarian men, right?

>>66698183
and
>>66698055

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>>66698233
yes, he is

here is undeniable proofs

>>66698233
Only with Miro :D

>>66698252
I'm not Efendi

>>66698228
go ask that person in particular then.
or settle for the wikipedia definition of it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory
Prehistory means literally "before history", from the Latin word for "before," præ, and Greek ιστορία. Human prehistory is the period from the time that behaviorally and anatomically modern humans first appear until the appearance of recorded history following the invention of writing systems.

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>>66698233

>>66697834
>vlachs
>Romanians

Pick one faggot

>>66698233
kek

>>66698242

why the fuck do you keep linking others posts?

>>66698282

and how is this relevant here?I asked you to prove the previous claim you made.

>>66698286
>>66698252
turkish men were MADE for bulgarian cock

>>66697878
>""""""Romanian language""""""

>>66698225
but not catholic. that influenced things

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>>66698289
Are you genuiely retarded? Please tell me if you are so that I don't waste my time.

Yes, romanians are vlachs because THAT'S WHAT YOU AND EVERY NEIGHBOR WE HAVE CALLED US. HUNGARIANS CALLED US OLAHS, POLES CALLED US WOLOCHS, RUSSIANS CALLED US VOLOKHS, YOU AND SERBS CALLED US VLASI.

Vlach is a fucking exonym for romance speaking people, which YOU YOURSELVES have called us.

>>66698340

influenced what?can you tie more than 1 sentence togheter?

Holy shit stop arguing you autists, be grateful women can be slutty in your countries and that you don't get decapitated for no reason.

>>66698160
It's not me.

>>66698307
writing = history
before writing = prehistory
thats the definition of the words. romanian history begins with romanian writing.

>>66698379

>X history begins with X own writtings

this you have to prove.Go ahead.

>>66698379
>Absence of evidence means we didn't exist

I guess nothing in the dark ages existed because we have very little information from back then.

>>66698346
vlachs aren't romanian
romanians are vlachs

there are vlachs who aren't romanian

>>66698423

vlach is not a linuistic or ethnic group.It's a name south slavs took from germans, and is used to denote the romance speakers.

Since these "vlachs" self called themselvs romanians, vlachs = romanian.

>>66698360
>Women are super slutty
>Still don't get laid

How the fuck does that even work?!

>>66698423
but everyone is greek in greece

>>66698423
I KNOW you fucking idiot. I'm not saying we are the aromanians or the megalo-romanians. I'm talking about the romance speakers in the carpathian area that russians and hungarians were mentioning in the 12th and 13th century and who formed two principalities that later created the modern state of romania through union. EVERYONE around us CALLED US "VLACHS", an exonym for romance speakers. Is it that hard to understand what I'm telling you?

>>66698400
that is what is history. what part of it dont you understand? history = writing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History
History (from Greek ἱστορία, historia, meaning "inquiry, knowledge acquired by investigation")[2] is the study of the past as it is described in written documents.[3][4] Events occurring before written record are considered prehistory.
>>66698408
i didnt say you didnt exist. i said romanian history began with romanian writings. romanian prehistory was before that, but that is unreliable. thats why its called prehistory.

>>66698496
I know this feel very well

>>66698517

History = writting

And?I didnt deny this.

i told you to prove me how a country X history starts when X starts writting the first documents.

>>66698517
So what the fuck happened between the 13th century (the first attestation of the romanian speaking population in the current territory of romania) until the 16th century? Did we magically teleport here after the mongol invasion?

>>66698484
>Since these "vlachs" self called themselvs romanians, vlachs = romanian.
wrong, plus old letters or books were autistic
at one point serbs were called vlachs as well

and no, vlachs aren't romanian

>>66698496
>>66698557
start by going outside perhaps

>>66698346
>Vlach is a fucking exonym for romance speaking people, which YOU YOURSELVES have called us.
"Vlasi" means long haired. Like the long haired mantels made of goat or sheep skin the shepards were wearing on your lands at the time.

>tigani scarbosi sudici turcesti discuta despre istoria noastra
wow

>>66698593

>wrong

how so?

>at one point serbs were called vlachs as well

because in Serbia lived Maurovlachs.

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>>66698593
thats because serbs are vlachs

>>66698569
that is what is history. what part of it dont you understand? history = writing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History
History (from Greek ἱστορία, historia, meaning "inquiry, knowledge acquired by investigation")[2] is the study of the past as it is described in written documents.[3][4] Events occurring before written record are considered prehistory.


>>66698576
ofc something happened. it was just unreliable. there are many accounts of christian documents just writing smut to discredit the pagans. since the great schism happened and the hungarians were catholic and the vlachs were orthodox, it is quite likely things were invented at that point. no one can say for sure.

>>66698593
Serbs were called vlachs long after vlachs are attested in the carpathian area. It became a nickname for shepherds because of our main occupation.

>and no, vlachs aren't romanian
Why not? What makes you say that?

>>66698616
I go to university 5 times a week and work 3-4 times a week. Even when I have a day off I usually go to the library to study.

I am outside more often than not.

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>>66698670
Why the fuck would the pope invent a fictional people living in the cioclese Diocese of Cumania and made them be orthodox? Also, why would the hungarians invent fictional romanian local rulers when telling teutonic and hospitalier knights which territories they could and couldn't go colonize?

>>66698379
Actually, no. History = literacy, it is independent of the specifics of language.

>>66698670

Monkey why do you keep repeating yourself?

I know that history is MADE by writtings.Now lets go back to our sheeps,i told you to prove me how a country X history starts when X starts writting the first documents.

>ofc something happened.

source.Do you realise Im just playing with you?I might as well go on the romanian archaelogy website, and I have there over 400 archaelogical sites of continuous romanian habitation.If not, I might as well post over 30 contemporany writtings of us.

>since the great schism happened and the hungarians were catholic and the vlachs were orthodo

wrong.When the schism happened, the magyars were barely christianised.

> it is quite likely things were invented at that point

How do you even come to this conclusion?First you talk of the schism and now about invention.

>>66698671
Serbs raise pigs not sheep.

>>66698756
there can be millions of reasons and they may be very different reasons. there is proof though, over and over again in conflicting documents from local populations and papal documents. there is also a lot of archeological finds that conflict what the missionaries wrote. the answer again is - we dont know. its just an unreliable source. it is more reliable that oral tradition, but still it is to be taken with a grain of salt.

>>66698840

Then post one of those proofs you have.You said there are a lot, go ahead already.You keep wasting time.

>>66698646
>>66698671
>morlachs
perfect example of what i'm talking about
people native to the balkans of illyrian origin, spoke a romance language, lived in dalmatia and serbia and were called vlachs, and later became croatians and serbs

do romanian history books consider these people "romanians" as well? lmfao

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Suddently , when bulgarianshits were cornered and asked for proof, they stopped responding.

>>66698670
Give it up its the autist from pol. He is laughing stock there, don't pay attention and he will go. Who cares what he thinks anyway.

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>>66698840
If you say that the king's diplomas are unreliable then you might as well say that everything you disagree with is unreliable. We literally have documents and retellings that corellate with archeological findings. Just because there is very little information it doesn't mean there is no information, and we have plenty of information about the inhabitants of this area based on artifacts found, uncovered settlements and funerary rites.

>>66698780
an illiterate nation can have literate historians. its not connected to literacy. you dont need to have writing en masse to have history, you just need to have writing. and then you use archeological finds to either prove or disprove that writing.

>>66698794
>i told you to prove me how a country X history starts when X starts writting the first documents.
ok its not just about that country writing. it could be some other country writing. the problem you have is that other countries that wrote before that (papal documents) are very unreliable. thats pretty much it. and orthodox and catholics were disgruntled with each other and wrote all sorts of smut about the other ones.
>How do you even come to this conclusion?First you talk of the schism and now about invention.
when you take the history of scandinavia, the first preserved history was of catholic missionaries. they made all sorts of shit up. and they made all sorts of shit up about the muslims and other pagans/heretics. you really think they didnt invent anything about romanians?

>>66698993

>do romanian history books consider these people "romanians" as well?

Its pointless to talk of people that no longer exist.

> later became

you mean were assimilated by*

>>66698997
It's ok the whole world is Romanians in denial. Now please go

This is a shit flinging fest.

>>66699101
Actually that is a conversation. You can tell by the lack of insult-hurling.

>>66699040
again. im saying history begins with writing. i never said anything about any kings diplomas. i asked you when were the first romanian documents - you said 1500's, i said then this is when romanian history begins.

>>66699053

>the problem you have is that other countries that wrote before that (papal documents) are very unreliable

show me those papal documens and how unrelaible they are.

>when you take the history of scandinavia,

are you dumb?Catholicism appeared in 1056 after the Schism.So before that scandinavians did not exist, and were invented?

You are just embarrasing yourself

>>66699086

You got owned.

>>66697965
I would walk here you subhuman wife beater

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>>66698993
They're part of the eastern romance group, just as us, and they disappeared. No, we don't call them romanians. Since morlac is an exonym just like vlachs, they probably called themselves a version of "romîn" as we have discovered that every surviving dialect of the eastern latin has. You keep souting the same shit over and over even though I already explained to you that vlach is an exonym for romance speakers and that no, not all of us are "romanians", but the attested vlachs of the medieval lands that formed the territories of romania are the same people as today.

Ah fuck it.
Nazdrave.

>>66699147
>history begins with writing
History begins with literacy nigger, it begins in Mesopotamia. A lot of what we know about old Bulgarians comes from the Greeks.

>>66699147

Again.Prove how X population history starts when X writes its own documents.

>>66699147
You asked for a document written in romanian. The oldest surviving document written BY a romanian is from 1300. It's in old church slavonic, but it was an official diploma and it's about as representative of vernicular romanian spoken at the time as the documents written in church latin that Vlad the Impaler was sending to the king of hungary or the trade grants to saxon and polish merchants written in german and polish, respectively.

>>66699065
>they probably called themselves a version of "romîn"
kek the entire romanian history is based on the word "probably"

>>66699369
>old church slavonic
Which is Old Bulgarian actually.

>>66699149
>show me those papal documens and how unrelaible they are.
http://www.academia.edu/12139475/Viking-Age_and_Early_Medieval_Scandinavia_chapter_9_History_writing
just read the first paragraph

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>>66699406
Maybe read the whole post, retard. We have evidence that the romance speakers in the east called themselves a version of "român", so it's not far fetched to assume that morlachs did, too. Either way, you're both moving the goal posts and pointing out inconsequencial stuff.

>>66699149
I fucking hate you autistic prick. You are the one with the gdp arguing even with a Czech guy who works for a statistic agency. When he stop replying you just say owned. You spam people into just stopping as you are not reasonable. You either bait or you are severely autistic. I believe rather the 2nd. Nobody gives a shit, nobody reads your bullshit links and nobody is interested in doing so. Now please fuck off or create a Romanian thread and sperg there. Your presence here is not wanted and a pain for everybody, including your countrymen.