What happens here?

Uyghurs, Chinese Muslims, desert, oil.

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Oil

SHARTING

>>66619794
Uyghur Separatism

>>66619794
terrorism

>>66620355
you mean freedom fighting

>>66620398
t. Alparslan Öztürk

>>66619794
chink muslims

羊肉串 is being made.

>>66620426
>in opstand komen tegen totalitaire regimes
>le turk diaspora miem

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>>66620398
>U*ghurs

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>>66619794

>>66620496
t. zhang

How much of it has been colonized by han chinese?

>>66620476
Ik ben meestal helemaal geen vriend van communisten, maar hun aanpak van terroristische geitenneukers is toch wel de goede.

>>66620537
>maar hun aanpak van terroristische geitenneukers is toch wel de goede.

ze waren geen terroristen totdat die communistische spleetogen hun moskeën als varkensstallen begonnen te gebruiken

>>66620530
40% is ch*nk

>>66620537
Ze worden daar zwaar onderdrukt. Ze hebben groot gelijk dat ze in opstand komen.

>>66620727
looks intredasting, I wanna go there

how dangerous is it for a white boy to go there?

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>>66620777
Turks are white, so you'd fit in.

>>66620837
I'm being serious, Oğuzhan Osmanoğlu

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>>66619794

>>66620777
>looks intredasting, I wanna go there

getting a visa to Xinjiang and Tibet is pretty much impossible, unless I wanna pay too much for a propaganda tour while being followed by a communist cadre all day.

>>66620727
>>66620949

>this is China

wtf?

>>66620998
>this is China

it isn't.

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>>66620949

>>66620837
gross

>>66621040
>>66620949
t. zhang

>>66620777 #
>>66620990 #
You only need a permit to go to Tibet, you can travel to Xinjiang easily. Only journalists and diplomats aren't allowed in unescorted.

And Uighurs won't kill white people, they only hate Han Chinese.

>>66623103 #
Try again Pedro. Third time's a charm.

>>66623232
Not sure who you're talking to buddy, this is my first post in this thread.

>this butthurt "dutch" anon

>Recent incidents include the 1992 Urumqi bombings,[11] the 1997 Ürümqi bus bombings,[9] the 2010 Aksu bombing,[12] the 2011 Hotan attack,[13] 2011 Kashgar attacks[14] and the 2014 Ürümqi attack.[15]
>As a result of these efforts, some Uyghur separatist movements have been labelled as terrorist groups by the United Nations and U.S. Department of State

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>>66621035
yes it is

>>66620667
Dit

>>66619794
Have they ever considered petitioning Russia to be federated?

Should make for an interesting event.

>>66619794
To be independent...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzeNp93X9V8
men ölüşim tabii ki, amma, küreş ölmeydü
o meñgü devam neşer

>>66620837
>turks are white

No we are brown you fucking wh*tey fuck off

>>66623103
Considering half the population there is Han Chinese and hasn't been killed already, no. They would gladly kill whites for money. Remember, these are Muslims.

>>66620537
>>66620612
>>66620667
What a disgusting language

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I notice they don't have those ugly-ass Mao outfits anymore and they just instead rip off US Army uniforms.

>>66632360
Vat? The PLA hasn't worn Mao uniforms in decades.

>>66631249
Uighurs have attempted to kill Han Chinese every chance they can get, they just haven't been able to because the PLA has overwhelming force.

Uighurs have no reason to kill whites cause we're not their colonizers. White journalists and researchers who visited Xinjiang shortly after the 2003 invasion of Iraq reported that Uighurs would ask them when George Bush would come liberate them.

Not all Muslims countries hate America, see Albania, Kosovo, and Bosnia for further examples.

>>66620516
>can I have a bazillion pizzas with extra nothing
>got you phamalam

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>>66632360
What year do you think this is? 1971? For fuck's sake, the Berlin Wall was still standing the last time they wore these.

Used to be inhabited by group of Caucasian people until the area became a desert. Then Turkic people took over the area and claim the mummies that they found their are their ancestors

>>66627294
>le people start separatist attacks for no reason meme

Muslims stabbing Han Chinks

>>66632360
During war with each other it's just going to be a free for all anyways.

Friendly-fire mode on was a smart idea.

t. elite armchair strategist

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>>66632360
Are you fucking serious?

>>66633298
Yep. Complete copy of US Army uniforms.

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>>66620727
Lots of Uighur look pretty white to me.
>>66620837
They have nothing to do with Turks.
No same ancestor or blood line,but many Uighur still believe they are Turks.
Thanks to the Pan-Turkism.

I've been to Xinjiang Province.

No special permits or visas are required. The Uighurs are friendly as fuck toward Westerners and couldn't have been nicer. Most haven't seen a Westerner before, so if you have blonde hair and a blonde beard (me), you get a lot of odd looks and people asking you for selfies with them.

There are a lot of Han around: local government, traders, army, police. They were nice too (towards Westerners), but they treated the Uighurs roughly. They do regular military parades in the squares and main streets, as a 'show of force', I suppose. The Han were touchy about us being around police stations and military, but that's about it.

Lovely place, highly recommended.

>>66633210
>"oh no, we have to speak chinese to get into university and to find better jerbs than being a fucking fruit vendor on the streets"
>"oooh dey han chinks force us to learn chinese and cut our beards or we cant get jerbs in official positions"
>"oh noes, they forbid us to circumcise our children because we dirty muslim nomads cant wash ourselves and kill them by infections all the time"
>"Oh no, I'm soo poor I have to feed all my 20 children because the evil commie government exempted me from the one-child policy!"
>Oh noes, I'm so fucking poor because the evil commie government's subsidies for halal foods isnt enough to feed my son's 20 children as well!"
>"allahuakbar! lets kill random chinese people on the streets to protest against our own incompetence!"

U*ghurs are literally Chinese niggers, that enjoy many government benefits that Han people couldnt even dream of, but still fail at life and at everything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPTuwL6V0z0

>>66633407
Funny, as when I went there with a Turkish friend, she could talk to and understand them perfectly. Their languages are Turkic and still mutually intelligible.

>>66633407
If uyghurs aren't a turkic people, how did they end up speaking a turkic language?

>>66633605
In other news, Tibet used to be stuck in the Middle Ages until the Chinese built roads, schools, electrification, abolished child marriage, etc. But you'll still drive around with a Free Tibet bumper sticker on your Prius.

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Great place tbqh

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>>66619794
Comfy

>>66633605
Or...

>"oh no, we have to speak Russian to get into university and to find better jerbs than being a fucking fruit vendor on the streets"
>"oooh dem Russkies force us to learn Russian and cut our beards or we cant get jerbs in official positions"
>"oh noes, they forbid us to circumcise our children because we dirty Muslim nomads cant wash ourselves and kill them by infections all the time"
>Oh noes, I'm so fucking poor because the evil Russian government's subsidies for halal foods isn't enough to feed my son's 20 children as well!"
>"allahuakbar! lets kill random Russian people on the streets to protest against our own incompetence!"

Chechens are literally Russian niggers, that enjoy many government benefits that Russian people couldn't even dream of, but still fail at life and at everything else.

>>66633864
t. Zhang

>>66633605
>>66633864
Yeah Tibetans and Uighurs should be grateful for invaders of a different ethnic group moving in and economically marginalizing them in their own homeland. Meanwhile Mainlanders will call Hong Kongers and Taiwanese 汉奸 for saying that British and Japanese rule brought economic development.

>>66633775
>>66633808
They are from the same language system,just like south Afrian blacks speak english too,you won't said"yeah we are all anglo",don't you?

Read the history book,Uyghurs and Turks orginally are Nomadic people from the north of China.
And during the Tang dynasty,the Chinese allied with Uyghurs to defeat Turks,and result of the Immigration of Turks.

>>66634129
Yeah American Aboriginals should be grateful for invaders of a different ethnic group moving in and economically marginalizing them in their own homeland. Meanwhile Burgers will call Mexicans "Illegals" for saying that their hard labour is what brought economic development to the US.

>>66634129
This is the guy who thinks it was better before the Spanish stopped people in Mexico from chopping hearts out as a sacrifice to the gods and made everyone wear pants.

>>66634208
Or that Tibet was better back when you could sell your 8 year old daughter for a block of salt.

>>66634191
Nice whataboutism Zhang, haven't seen that tactic before from you people. I fully admit we fucked over the Indians. Meanwhile, you morons will tell yourselves "we wuz peaceful and shit" and endlessly bitch about Western colonialism, while failing to realize your justifications for ruling Tibet and Xinjiang are the exact same justifications that Westerner colonialists used.

>>66634305
No, Han people actually were in Tibet and Xinjiang long before Columbus even discovered America.

Actually, for Xinjiang, the Han colonized it before the Uighurs came. If anything, it was the Uighurs who invaded from central asia and genocided the Han-people away.

Also, not t.Zhang here. Just as sino-guy.

>give America back to the natives
Ha ha, yeah right. It would look like Haiti in a week.

>>66634305

Don't even take that b8.

Indians had no concept of nation states and land ownership

>>66634647
Yup, unlike the Tibetans who had an empire which ass-whopped the Tang, and later on a state that declared independence.

>>66634130

are you a real macanese chink or proxy?

>>66634366 #
>Han people actually were in Tibet long before Columbus even discovered America.

[Citation Needed]. The Mongols were the first to unite Tibet and China into one empire, and it's debated if Tibet can be considered a part of China during the subsequent Ming dynasty. The Qing were the first Chinese dynasty to establish undisputed control over Tibet, which is after the discovery of America. And a few Han Chinese merchants on the Tibetan plateau doesn't imply they're indigenous to Tibet.

>Actually, for Xinjiang, the Han colonized it before the Uighurs came.

No, they controlled it during certain dynasties such as the Han and Tang, and would then would lose control of the region to other empires. There was never continuous Han Chinese rule of Xinjiang. Xinjiang was only able to be resettled by Han Chinese when the Qing committed genocide on the Dzungars, and that was done by Manchus and Mongols, so Han can't even take credit for that.

Granted, Uighur nationalism does frequently turn into "we wuz" pan-turanism bullshit and exaggerates how long they've inhabited Xinjiang, but Han claiming they're more indigenous than the Uighurs is also bullshit, especially since the vast majority of Han living in Xinjiang today only arrived after 1949.

>>66633864
>>66633605
Ugyhurs and Tibetans are all a bunch of backwards, nigger-tier people who don't deserve being civilized by Han Chinese. If it wasn't for the silly naive westerners cheering them on thinking it increases the chance of China "losing", and strengthening their American-led Western democratic liberal world order, then there would be no fucking reason to like those slave-holding goat fucking natives.

>>66633210
>it was okay for the South to unconstitutionally secede and then attack US forts

>>66635322
Okay if you hate them so much and don't like wasting money on them, then why don't you let them declare independence and build a wall between China and them, instead of simultaneously bitching about them and screaming "muh integreal part of China"? You let go of Outer Mongolia, another non-Han region, before and evidently you're all not too regretful over that. I've seen attitudes like yours countless times before, and it only shows Tibetans and Uighurs are right to not swallow your bullshit of "muh 56 minorities living in harmony" and are justified in chimping out at you.

>>66634208 #
>>66634263 #
>Aztecs practiced human sacrifice
>Therefore, everything the Spanish did following the conquest of Mexico was good and they dindu nuffin

>Tibet was a so-called "serf society"
>Therefore, everything the Chinese have done following the invasion of Tibet was good and we dindu nuffin

>>66634305
Han have been in Xinjiang longer than Uyghurs.

>>66635192
When did the Tibetans beat the Tang?

>>66634647
1. [Citation needed]
2. Does that justify an invasion and siezure of Indian land?
By the time of the 1750's, Indians had a definite concept of "nation" and "land".
Iroquois federation + Cherokee.

>>66635255
So China conquered Tibet, does that mean that Tibetans should recieve there own state?
How about Kurds in Southeast Turkey?

>>66635300
Han have been in Tibet proper in sizeable numbers (3000-10000) since at least the 1260's with the Yuan invasion. That's when sinicization first began.

>>66635711

You don't know anything about indians or the history of the country do you.

And the Cherokee and the Iroquois didn't have capitals or anything needed for a nation state

>>66635711

The Yuan were mongols weren't they

>>66635322
Vietnam were also Neolithic savages before China civilized them in the 1st millenium AD, but Vietniggers nowadays act like China is the worst thing ever.

>>66635949
>Baaaaaaaah why do people hate us when we invade them

>>66635949
Wang Biao, plz go.

>>66636002
t. Trang Van

>>66635322
t. Ding Dong the Dalai Lama is here

>>66634130
they are/were a turkic tribe

those subhumans mongoloids invaded that land and raped the native into extinction, result?

modern day uyghurs

>>66635711
>Han have been in Xinjiang longer than Uyghurs.

Again, did Han Chinese dynasties maintain continuous control of Xinjiang? The answer is no, they were continuously BTFO of Xinjiang by other empires.

>When did the Tibetans beat the Tang?

"There was a long string of conflicts with Tibet over territories in the Tarim Basin between 670–692, and in 763 the Tibetans even captured the capital of China, Chang'an, for fifteen days during the An Shi Rebellion.[124][125] In fact, it was during this rebellion that the Tang withdrew its western garrisons stationed in what is now Gansu and Qinghai, which the Tibetans then occupied along with the territory of what is now Xinjiang.[126] Hostilities between the Tang and Tibet continued until they signed a formal peace treaty in 821."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_dynasty

>So China conquered Tibet, does that mean that Tibetans should recieve there own state? How about Kurds in Southeast Turkey?

Not necessarily, but Tibetans do have a right to resist and demand greater autonomy if they're unsatisfied with Chinese rule, just like how the Kurds have resisted Turkey and demanded greater autonomy for many years.

>Han have been in Tibet proper in sizeable numbers (3000-10000) since at least the 1260's with the Yuan invasion. That's when sinicization first began.

Again, does Han Chinese living in Tibet imply they're indigenous to the area like Tibetans? And in what ways exactly have Tibetans been "sinicized"?

The USSR started it.

>>66635949
>chinks civilizing anyone

nope, culture and people are different. we don't look like weird aliens i see everyday at my school.

>>66636298
you need to read history of that and its ancient people

its ancient people were iranian, they didnt get strong so they got conquere by china then some turkic tribes migrated, finally a turkic tribe (uyghurs) settled there and raped the few pure iranians into extinction


i dont know why iranians did to God that they got externinated

>>66636298
>Again, did Han Chinese dynasties maintain continuous control of Xinjiang? The answer is no, they were continuously BTFO of Xinjiang by other empires.

Wait. So if you temporarily lose territory then you have no legitimate claim over it?

How exactly does France legitimately own Alsace-Lorraine then?

>"There was a long string of conflicts with Tibet over territories in the Tarim Basin between 670–692, and in 763 the Tibetans even captured the capital of China, Chang'an, for fifteen days during the An Shi Rebellion.[124][125]
You wrote "BTFO". Not "fought each other and eventually made peace".

>Not necessarily, but Tibetans do have a right to resist and demand greater autonomy if they're unsatisfied with Chinese rule, just like how the Kurds have resisted Turkey and demanded greater autonomy for many years.

But then why does Western media support Tibetan indepedence movements in China but not Kurdish independence movements in Turkey?
The media coverage I see of Tibet is always negative about China, while there wasn't even a mention of Kurds in Turkey until 2014.

>>66636384
Did I not say earlier that the Uighurs are guilty of "we wuz" history and exaggerating how long they've inhabited the region? All I'm pointing out is that Han Chinese claiming they have more of a right to Xinjiang despite repeatedly losing control of the region is also bullshit.

Xinjiang has gone back and forth between empires for centuries with different ethnic groups there constantly moving in and out. No ethnic group there can claim they are indigenous.

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>>66636511
tocharians

an iranian tribe
i have read the history of that land, tocharians were the natives but they got raped by mongoloids

free Uyghur !
free tibet !

>>66636697
t. Mohamed Xing

>>>66636460
>Wait. So if you temporarily lose territory then you have no legitimate claim over it?

I'm not saying Han have no claim to Xinjiang at all. What I'm saying is that Han claiming they have a more legitimate claim to the region than Uighurs is bullshit considering how the region has gone back and forth between empires for centuries. No one there is truly "indigenous".

>You wrote "BTFO". Not "fought each other and eventually made peace".

Losing control of Xinjiang and allowing Chang'an to get captured sounds btfo to me.

>But then why does Western media support Tibetan indepedence movements in China but not Kurdish independence movements in Turkey?

Because of how China is a great power and what goes on there is relevant to the rest of the world? And because China has generally been more important than Turkey? And because Tibet is a region which has captured people's imaginations in both the West and the East for centuries?

Great powers will naturally face scrutiny for their actions. So deal with it and come up with better PR instead of crying about how the Western media is biased.

And the West has been sympathizing with Kurds in the Middle East for decades. Did you forget how the US imposed a no-fly zone over Iraq in response to Saddam gassing Kurds?

>>66636727
So how much was that apartment in Vancouver your daddy bought for you Zhang?

>>66636727
t. Xan Wang

It will be quite habitable there in 100 years.

>>66636966
>>66636697
>>66636958
>>66636727

t. ping pong

>>66635949
Meh, of course they "civilized" us, but they did it for their own good. Plus, they didn't stop invade once we kicked them out.

>>66636898
>Tibet captured peoples imaginations for centuries

Bull fucking shit. You dumb brainwashed swine. Do you think it was a fancy spiritual holyland where monks pray on mountain tops while Brad Pitt comes in and Seven Years in Tibet happens?
Tibet was a fucking shithole with monks holding much of the population as slaves. They would be stuck in the fucking 19th century if it wasn't for Westerners - err, the Chinese coming to bring them roads, infrastructure, jobs etc. The Dalai Lama is a CIA-funded secessionist nigger as well. The Western propaganda got you good.

>>66637785
>>Tibet was a fucking shit hole
It still are,you can't hardly find a toilet with water provided there.

But it is wrose in the past old day.

>>66637785
Oh here we fucking go, the typical fucking response by Chinese who jerk themselves off thinking they know the truth about Tibet because they're not "brainwashed by Western media".

I never said that Tibet was a Shangri-la you stupid 自干五 fuck. I merely pointed out that people have found Tibet fascinating for centuries. And don't pretend Chinese are somehow immune to this. I can go on Weibo and Zhihu and see countless Chinese talking about traveling to Tibet as if it'll bring them fucking enlightment.

>monks holding much of the population as slaves.
>Slaves
You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means. Whether or not Tibet's society constituted "serfdom" is an ongoing debate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Tibet_controversy

Stop pretending that your history textbooks which classified Tibet as a "serf society" based on flawed Marxist historiography, and which left out all the subsequent atrocities China committed in Tibet such as bombing monasteries, the labor camps, the Great Leap Forward, and the Cultural Revolution are somehow less biased than "Western media".

>They would be stuck in the fucking 19th century if it wasn't for Westerners - err, the Chinese coming to bring them roads, infrastructure, jobs etc.

Now I''m not sure if you're purposefully being retarded, but thanks for pointing out your justifications for ruling Tibet are no different from the justifications Western colonialists used. You still think you wuz not colonialists and shit? The only jobs you create in Tibet nowadays are for the Han Chinese migrants which are slowly making Tibetans a minority in their own homeland.

>The Dalai Lama is a CIA-funded secessionist nigger as well.

There was nothing wrong with the Dalai Lama or Tibetan guerillas seeking the help of the CIA because insurgents seeking the help of foreign powers is something that has happened for centuries. You forget how China funded guerilla in Vietnam, Angola, and Mozambique?

>>66636553
>an indo european tribe was native to xinjiang
do you also think modern european nations are natives of europe :-D

>>66636460
>But then why does Western media support Tibetan indepedence movements in China but not Kurdish independence movements in Turkey?
>The media coverage I see of Tibet is always negative about China, while there wasn't even a mention of Kurds in Turkey until 2014.

The media here is largely pro-kurd.

>>66638639
Hey Turkish anon, while you're here, do you think the Western media focuses on the Kurds too much?

>>66619794
Poverty.

>>66638188
Holy mother of rare flags. You know, I have literally never once seen your flag on /int/.

Do you post here often?

>>66638378
Tibet had the same exact society as Bhutan, yet Bhutan's population is the happiest in tbe world

>>66638378
>t. tenzin doldrub
You couldn't see past my sarcastic shitposting, you goat fucker

>>66639007
Not to mention how they abolished serfdom on their own, thus showing that Tibet could have reformed their society on their own and didn't need Han Chinese to come "liberate" them

>>66619794

north western chinese food is the tastiest food in the world.

>>66639049
That was 10/10 bait, I'll give you that

>>66639078
True dat, I love me some chuaer and bing

>>66635570
>if you hate them why not let them be independent
1. why would we give them what they want
2. we want the land, not the people

>>66628349

thats cause youre a greek arab not a real turk from china.

>>66632512

lel

>>66639113
1. why would we give them what they want
2. we want the land, not the people

1. So you no longer have shitskins in your country
2. So are you actually going to purge the land of the people? Or are you just going to tell yourselves 留地不留人 and then not do shit just like with Taiwan?

>>66637785
This was also true of Mongolia before communism happened. People were dying of hunger and disease while Buddhist monasteries controlled all the wealth and about 90% of the population were illiterate.

Ancient Aryans

>>66639082
I actually meant what I said, but was trying to bait you anyways you Lisa Simpson Tibetan-worshipping reincarnating nigger.

>>66639236
And then the Communists went overboard and destroyed all monasteries and culture just like they always do.

>>66639219
we're already in the process of forcibly assimilating them by banning their religion
purging is not necessary, we treat them same as based israel treats the west bank. we extract and use their resources and they can eat their own shit

>>66638378
>The only jobs you create in Tibet nowadays are for the Han Chinese migrants which are slowly making Tibetans a minority in their own homeland.

Why don't Tibeteans just pick their stuff and leave?

Tibet has great PR, there would be public outcry by new age morons in every western nation if they weren't given refugee status and China has no reason to keep them in.

I mean, Jews also eventually moved back to their ancestral homeland.

>>66639379
agreed. tibetans should just leave for india

>>66639303
>We're already in the process of forcibly assimilating them by banning their religion

No you don't, all you do is make them shave their beards and not wear headscarfs, and then you act surprised when they chimp out on you. Great assimilation brah.

>We treat them same as based israel treats the west bank. we extract and use their resources and they can eat their own shit

Except Israel actually expelled a good portion of their shitskins from the country, and China has never had the balls to do what Israel did. Israelis are also willing to put in the effort of settling the West Bank, while most Han are too pussy to live in southern Xinjiang.

>>66639379
imagine germans or russians making czechs leave their land for france. imagjne how you would feel

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Manchu must have won in WW2

>>66639465
Okay since France is richer than Czech Republic and is at safe distance from Russia.

>>66619831
plus tungsten.
weird how muslims have oil under their feet and foreigners wanting it.
>>66619916
this. Wonder why no free xianjiang like free tibet

>>66639465
That guy's not Czech, he's a Chinese student who bitches about the West but still goes abroad because he realizes his country is a shit hole.

>>66620355
better then burning themselves for freedom like tibet monks....something no of us here are dumb enough to do

>>66620612
dam, talking about being a soon to be minority in your own land

>>66639530
t.Zhang Leaf

>>66639530
How come all terrorists are dumb enough to use biological weapons?

With thousands of minor uprisings happening all over the China, there's potential for major pandemic actually destabilizing China enough for them to get independent.

>>66639465
expulsions of 5th columns is normal in history
see: turkey expelling armenians/greeks/assyrians, czechs and poles expelling germans, israel expelling arabs
when they leave they can go live in europe off of public sympathy

>>66639530
first of all, you are not tibetan. you can't speak out for tibetans. it's like having a white guy speak out for blacks on the issue of slavery and civil rights. you clearly have no empathy

>>66639626
>minorities vs native, indigenous or majorities

are you too stupid to make that distinction?

>>66639091

i just love lamb + cumin.

>>66639655
what the fuck are you talking about
all of the people expelled in those examples are natives and minorities
tibetans and uyghurs are native and minorities as well and will be expelled too.

>>66639694
>and will be expelled too
Sure they will Zhang

>>66639627
perhaps. But dont you think its better to protest by fighting the hans then to kill yourself in protest? Since those in power dont follow Human rights violations. its not effective. The ugihers by the looks of it will gain independence before tibet does.
well we have westerners and feminsts speaking for the islamic world dont we?
Im pro tibet, but their methods dont seem effective desu, Our sympathy hasnt worked to this day.
america...sympathatic
>kek
>>66639600
well they are bettter off with independance. But dont think itll stop the Han super power hype train since their area is very populated and most developed

>>66639303
>we extract and use their resources and they can eat their own shit

lel

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>>66628075
>Have they ever considered petitioning Russia to be federated?
They tried. They failed. Twice. Thrice if you include the Dungan Revolt.

"Uyghurstan" was a contrived Pan-Turanist meme that the Russian Empire used in the late 19th Century to justify their influence in the area. Logic being that since all Turkics are Russkie Subjects, then what better to use to the Uyghurs to get them under Russia.

Unfortunately for Russia, the Qing, the ROC, and the Warlords did not give a shit. When Russia went to hell in WWI and after, it was not in any position to hold the Uyghurs hands, which was promptly destroyed by the Zhili Clique of Warlords.

>>66639718
we've already expelled 150,000 tibetans to india or the united states, and vast numbers of uyghurs have been expelled to pakistan and uzbekistan, turkey, and Islamic State.
more will follow

>>66639476
ussr should have gave inner mongolia to socialist mongolia, manchuria to mao, and the UN should have guaranteed an independent Turkestan, Yunnan, Guangdong, and Muslim Hui nationstate. Amdo and Chuan should have been given to Tibet and Gansu to the Huis

>>66639729
>"Uyghurstan" was a contrived Pan-Turanist meme

Yeah cause "muh China is a multicultural nation with 56 nationalities living in harmony" is somehow not a contrived meme

>>66639740
>we

>american flag

you must go back

>>66639729
t. rodrigo duterte

>>66639292
If "culture" means dying at 45 of tuberculosis and selling your daughter for a quart of airag, then that's a pretty shitty culture.

>>66639758
better meme than the "kill all minorities because they're barbars" meme that was going on prior to that in china

>>66639740
>more will follow

Except that you will never expel all of them because you're all cucks to the CCP and their ethnic policy which refuses to renounce the multicultural meme. The CCP has tried to get Uighurs who have fled to other countries returned to China for fuck's sake.

>>66639813
Except that meme was what actually allowed China to assimilate minorities and gain clay. Now the CCP only pushes the multicultural meme despite it clearly failing.

>>66639792
chinese die at 45 from lung cancer and they kill and sell their daughters organs (millions of female babies are killed every year that your government doesn't tell you) Chinese culture is much worse than neighboring culture. Blatant disregard for their environment and basic human and female rights

>>66637785
Idk mate, I've been to upper mustang and bhutan, and the places are pretty much shangrila. Some people enjoy a minamilist extence.

>Controlf "t."
>37 matches.

>>66639792
lol your average chinese peasant or factory worker probably dies from some form of cancer before 50. also chinese parents traditionally leave their baby daughters in a ditch next to the road to die from exposure

>>66639873
Uneducated shartian logic.

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>>66639758
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Turkestan
>East Turkestan (also Eastern Turkistan, Chinese Turkestan, Uyghurstan, Uyghuristan and other variants) is a political term with multiple meanings depending on context and usage. Historically, the term was invented by Russian Turkologists like Nikita Bichurin in the 19th century to replace the term Chinese Turkestan, which referred to the Tarim Basin in the southwestern part of Xinjiang province of the Qing dynasty

Furthermore the Chink Nationalists were working on le multicult meme given that prior to the "nation-state" it was an Empire. Empires generally are multicultural, with peripheries revolving around an Imperial Dynasty's ability to govern the state and protect it. Since they lived like that for damn near 2000 years, its how the Chinese saw what a "nation" should be, and not the ethnocentric gangbang going on in Western Europe and other bits of the world. In addition, "Chineseness" has always been cultural, not ethnic.

>>66639997
>at least koreans don't do any of that
t. park chon ree

>>66639873
I meant Mongolia there (airag is a traditional drink made of fermented horse milk)

>>66640052
lol jealous weak chinese.

>>66640052
mongols and tibetans never really hated chinese. you could have made good relations with them, but your insecurities fucked everything up for the worse. as insecure and shamefur and dishonorabre as the japs

>>66640009
>Furthermore the Chink Nationalists were working on le multicult meme given that prior to the "nation-state" it was an Empire.

You're right, Chinese nationalists preached "kill the tartars" and "Expel the Manchus, Restore the Ming" for years, and then Sun Yatsen pulled the "Five Races" concept out of his ass when he realized their previous message of Han ethnocentrism had no appeal to the minorities of the former Qing Empire who now wanted nothing to do with the ROC.

>Chineseness" has always been cultural, not ethnic.

Right, for thousands of years being "Chinese" meant following Han Chinese culture. The idea that people who did not adopt Han Chinese culture should be considered Chinese would have been viewed as laughable for most of Chinese history.

So your point that Uighur nationalism should be rejected because it's a 19th century construct is irrelevant because modern Chinese nationalism is also a recent construct.

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There are nice mountains.

>>66640162
>mongols and tibetans never really hated chinese. you could have made good relations with them, but your insecurities fucked everything up for the worse.

This. Mainland Han Chinese fucking suck at winning hearts and minds. Just look at Taiwan and Hong Kong for further proof.

>>66635823
>they didn't have our exact same system so that means we could totally subjugate them

>>66640408
>>66640408 #
chinese are JUST the people. constantly cucking themselves, to mongols, manchus or europeans.


just look at their women, they always reach out to white, korean and japanese men. pretending to be like them and constantly fantasizing about korean dramas, dramas about being QINGZ N SHIT, and feigning japanese mannerisms. they know their men are huge cucks who put them through hell, and who keep fucking their country and history up

>>66640573

das right

>>66619794
The border between North and South Korea looks like it was drawn with paint.

>>66633605
We have Chinese refugees here now too? What a world we live in.

>>66633898
>frying meat over snow
The mainland Chinese are on my population control list.

>>66641294

I think you need to recheck your eyes. That looks like Charcoal

>>66619794
really fucked temperature swings due to the distant location from water

>>66641336
You are on my population control list now too.

>>66640220
>You're right, Chinese nationalists preached "kill the tartars" and "Expel the Manchus, Restore the Ming"
And accepted the Yuan & Qing dynasties in the roster of Imperial Chinese dynasties, and considered nomadic & and tribal subjects as the "Outer Subjects." Funny no?
>Han ethnocentrism
Doesn't really go against my point. Sun Yat-sen fucked up and went back to the Center-Periphery state that China always was.

>Right, for thousands of years being "Chinese" meant following Han Chinese culture.
Yes.
>The idea that people who did not adopt Han Chinese culture should be considered Chinese would have been viewed as laughable for most of Chinese history.
To a point. For one thing: they drew the line on language, religion, race...oh god that seems to be everything. Under the empire there was no state religion, no national language, and plenty of different races living under the empire.

Chineseness sure was cultural, but in the end, a lot of different peoples lived in China the state. They left it to the barbarous subjects to integrate themselves to Chinkdom but if they insist on living as they were they didn't stop them so long as they weren't rebelling shits.

If anything, I was pointing out how Modern Chinese nationalism...isnt nationalism.