>Russian sub sinks >Americans offer to save the crew >Russians

>Americans offer to save the crew

Actually americans destroyed this submarine

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>>66186339

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>>66186339

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxo7fPvhqkI

>>66186313
It was factually proven in late 2000 that almost everyone was dead by the time the US even offered to help.

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ruski ruski weeeeee

>>66186313
The depth of the watet they drowned in was less than the length of the sub.

Let that sink in. The crew could have put on life jackets and floated to the surface, suffering at worst a moderatr case of the bends. It would take more time for them to walk the length of the sub than to escape to certain freedom.

Either they were extremely stupid, or the russian government wanted them dead.

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>>66186686
>Let that sink in

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>>66186686
>Let that sink in.

>>66186313
You lose face if your enemy helps you.
It was a top espionage opportunity for the americans.

>>66186779
>caring more about face than keeping your countrymen alive
Then again that's why they beat us to space.

>>66186313
Life is cheap in russia, just like it now is in amerika.

goyim are expendable

enjoy the communist mentality, comrade

lol

>>66186686
>implying any hatches were accessible.
>implying making a rapid accent in over 100meter of water wont fucking kill you, or cripple you with the bends.
>implying they wont freeze to death
>implying they will get immediate medical treatment for the bends
>implying anything local can provide bend treatment for 100+ people

>>66186686
>300 feet is a short distance to swim under water

>>66186941
Some would survive. Better odds than none surviving.

I know what Id do, merkin.

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>>66186339
Here we go.

>>66186313
The life of a russian soldier, compared to other countries is cheap. Just look at the russian soldiers capture in ukrain. They are pretty much denied by the russian government and if they die, their families get shit.

>>66186971
You don't have to swim though. Just inflate your lifejacket and you'll shoot up.

>>66186971
submarine crews train for it.

you just have to exhale constantly on the way up and have a life jacket on.

>>66187054
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decompression_sickness

300 feet of rise in the time you can hold your breath would kill every single human on this planet.

>>66187088
First of all, exhaling constantly would lead you to running out of oxygen.

Second, that doesn't change anything.

Third, Decompression sickness will literally kill people after about 200 feet if they don't pause for 15-20 minutes.

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Is not submarines built for sinking?

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I kinda doubt America would accept Russian help if one of their nuke subs was sinking.

>>66187222
Not when a torpedo explodes inside.

>>66186339
this

>>66187316
The Russians would steal the secrets (skittles).

>>66186828
You have only one face but millions of countrymen. Any sensible country would do the same.

>>66187316
depends, how much faith do you have of russia being able to rescue the people because so far after this incident, nope.

>>66187099
"No"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_hunting

>>66187122
This is why all australian sub crews are issued with an exercise ball per seaman. Both for bouyancy and oxygen. You just have to go relatively slowly.

>>66187222
Yes. And most have a "turn 45 to 90 degrees" protocol. The crew can then just climb to sea level and open a hatch.

>>66186313
you wanted to know secrets we we couldn't let you in there

>>66187384
>No

Pearl divers train their entire fucking lives for that you stupid faggot

>This is why all australian sub crews are issued with an exercise ball per seaman.
Soviet Russia only had a plastic cup to capture some air in

>>66187316
>russians

>help

ahahahahhhahaha


wew laddie

>>66187384
>In Asia, some pearl oysters could be found on shoals at a depth of 5–7 feet (1.325–2 meters) from the surface, but more often divers had to go 40 feet (12 meters) or even up to 125 feet (40 meters) deep to find enough pearl oysters, and these deep dives were extremely hazardous to the divers

>>66187425
And you think the people in subs don't train for this?

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>>66187427
Russians like helping with natural disasters around the world though. Its good for diplomacy.

>>66187449
My crew didn't.

Leaving the sub nowadays is so unlikely even in the case of emergency (because it will lead to explosive decompression) that it is not even taught.

>>66186971
>91 metres.

I can do one lap of a pool with out coming up for breath, I like to hope if my life depended on it I could manage another 40 metres.

Most Australians grow up swimming constantly all summer ever summer under water but. Probably not the same for russkies.

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>>66187453
the only thing ivan will help you with is putting you in an early grave.

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>>66186313
>Noway's help
never ever

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how fucked are we?

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>>66187540
Not particularly fucked. Its for scaring the electorate.

>>66187565
Kek

>>66187425
Then you just use the periscope's schnorkel attachment. Dumb merkin.

You can even make one easily with a bouy, several lengths of garden hose and a snorkel. Attach a rope and you caN even climb up it.

And if yoy dont have an exercise ball, in a pinch an able seaman can use an inflatable life raft for the same porpoise.

>>66186339
Proof?

>>66187640
The torpedo that exploded inside came in from the outside.

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>>66186686
>let that sink in

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>>66186313
>Japanese plane crashes
>Americans offer to rescue survivors
>Japanese refuse, fail to do it because no night vision
>They come the next day
>Only four survivors
Why are Japanese so bad?

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>>66187814
>plane crash into wtc


>only israel help


many burgers die

>>66186313
>Russian sub sinks
>Americans offer to steal sub technology
ftfy

Kursk was an inside job

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I remember that there was a fire in the Ostankino TV tower shortly after the Kurst incident, and there was a joke that the tower had hit a hidden American tower.

>>66187408
There's nothing we could learn from your rusted 1970s shit submarines, vatnik. Unless it was to find out about technology you can see in a museum here. :^)

>>66187490
>>66187659
>>66187906
>>66187886
You think Kremlinbots would of all things use a proxy other than a Poland one.

Putin had just recently taken power at the time and he had to look like he was a tough guy and Russia stronk and all that since in the 90s, US army generals were walking around on Russian military bases.

It had nothing actually to do with not exposing military secrets for the already mentioned reason that Russia's technology was way behind ours so there could not possibly be any advanced goodies to steal.

>>66186313
Kinda
>Russian Navy officials imposed specific constraints that restricted the Norwegians divers to work on the stern of the ship, specifically the escape hatch over compartment nine and an air control valve connected to the rescue trunk. The Norwegian deep-sea divers protested against the restrictions which they felt impeded their rescue operations.

>When the divers attempted to open the air control valve, it would not move. Russian experts on one of the most technologically advanced submarines in the Russian fleet told the divers that they must open the valve counter-clockwise or they would break it. The divers finally went against the experts' advice and tried turning it clockwise, which worked.

>The divers tried to use the arms of the ROV to open the hatch but were unsuccessful until the morning of Monday, 21 August, when they found the rescue trunk full of water. That morning, they used a custom tool to open the internal hatch of the rescue trunk, releasing a large volume of air from the ninth compartment. Divers lowered a video camera on a rod into the compartment and found several bodies.

>The salvage companies agreed that the Norwegian divers would cut the holes in the hull but only Russian divers would enter the submarine. The Norwegian divers cut a hole in the hull of the eighth compartment to gain access, using a cutting machine that shoots a high-velocity water-and-cutting-grit mix at 15,000 pounds per square inch (100,000 kPa) pressure. The Russian divers entered the wreck and opened a bulkhead hatch to compartment nine.

The Kursk was an Oscar-class submarine which entered service in 1975. Yeah, that shit was like a quarter century old technology at the time. Doubt there was much of use we could steal. It had more to do with stubborn nationalism than anything.

>>66190344
Did you read half the posts you quoted?

>>66190690
Dude, it's all one RT spammer with a Poland proxy.

>>66190443
Considering that you tried stealing 1970s tech in the 2000s I wouldnt be so sure.

>In 2000, former U.S. Naval intelligence officer and an alleged DIA spy Edmond Pope (Captain, USN, retired) was held, tried, and convicted in Russia of espionage related to information he obtained about the Shkval weapon system. Russian President Vladimir Putin pardoned Pope in December 2000, allegedly on humanitarian grounds because he had bone cancer.[8][9]

>>66190646
And some butthurt because the US had a few years earlier acquired from Moldavia a domestic model MiG-29 with the full compliment of top-secret equipment.

>>66190344
>americans in charge of understanding irony

>>66187449
Well no. Because submarine sailors don't fucking swim under water.

>>66187482
Swimming under water horizontally isn't the same as swimming under water vertically.

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>>66186313
That's so nice of you, thanks for offering help, Norway

>>66190731
Are you really defending the point that Kursk was sunk by a reason other than a defective torpedo/missile they had on board, ushanochkin?

>>66186339
True

>>66190992
Are you really not understating what me and the burger are talking about meriboo?

>>66186313
The second explosion killed most of the crew, then the captain was smart enough to fry or suffocate the rest of them.
All of this happened before the US offered help.

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>>66186339

>>66191105
Oh my bad, you argue about there were interesting tech pieces on the sunk Kursk. Carry on.

The accident rate of the Russian submarine fleet over the decades was pretty grim. During the Soviet era of course all was covered up and the dead were just claimed to have died in a skiing accident on vacation or something.

>>66191177
America decided to stonewall any accidents.

Russia doesn't care one bit about the lives of their citizens

>>66186779
you greeks give such autistic answers when it comes to topics like this lol

>>66191177
Hell, in 2008 a firefighting system on one of their subs malfunctioned and suffocated 20 people.
Being a submariner is probably the worst profession on the world.

That compares to the intense, almost borderline autistic safety obsession of Hyman Rickover which made the American submarine fleet the world's safest.

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>>66191309
And then Cockmongler comes along and rams a fucking mountain.

>>66191309
>holed up in a metal tin can 200 meters below sea level
>"safety obsession"
>"autistic"
>implying in this situation ANY fucking kind of safety obsession isn't 10000% warranted
I'd give every sub sailor a personal hard-shell diving suit if it was at all possible but sadly it isn't

>>66191309
Even if at the very end, he went senile and almost destroyed a submarine with himself onboard during a crash diving trial.

>>66186313
We just don't trust you.

>>66191518
wut?

>>66191535
Wake up, pidorashka. You have vryotee syndrome.

>>66191905
>vryotee syndrome.
?

>>66191905
GTFO of Russia, liberashka.

>>66191882
In 1981, the 80 year old Rickover was onboard a newly commissioned nuclear sub performing crash diving trials. He had the crew send the sub down to near crush depth before ordering them to resurface. The sub was perilously close to having been destroyed and everyone onboard (including Rickover) killed.

It raised a lot of questions namely why the fuck was an 80 year old man conducting crash diving trials. They wondered if his delay in ordering the sub to resurface was because his reaction time wasn't as good as it used to be. Most likely he was just being stubborn. In any case, the Reagan Administration were already intending to retire Rickover and he was unceremoniously given the boot in early 1982.