Russia transfers short-range nuclear weapon to Kaliningrad Oblast

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/07/russia-moving-nuclear-capable-missiles-into-kaliningrad-says-estonia

OP here

>>65870784
>iran

Wew lad

>>65870871
Irony?

>>65870784
Do Poles unironically believe Russia wants to conquer them?

>>65870784
ok OP I'am Russkie

>Do you / Russians believe that Poland wants to invade Russia?
nope, absolute nonsense. No one really think Poland/any European country is going to attack us

>How do you /Russians think you will profit by eg. conquering Poland apart from showing those hateful Poles that you are kind by force

We are not going to attack Poland, we are not going to invade Poland. How did you even come up with that idea?

>>65871042
Yes

>>65871143
I wouldn't worry so much if I was you.
Russia has neither the interest nor the capability to wage a war against NATO

Nice pic you got there but there are no permanently stationed NATO forces on polish territory.

Unless you consider 15 american USAF trainers as "forces"

>>65870784
1 Why would we want to invade Poland?
2 What?
And why would we want to invade any European country..
B-BUT UKRAINE
we were forced to do it
you can think of it as when US invaded Iraq after 9/11

>>65870784
No
No profits

>>65871201
That's precisely what that map does and more. It even marks US radar instalations as "us forces."

You should be used to propaganda by now.

>>65871201
not for the lack of trying on polish side, though

>>65871260
>we were forced to do it

>>65871307
thanks for the Crimea tho

>>65871307
We didn't really invade them. Just borrowed Crimea

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>>65870784
Iskander was deployed in Kaliningrad for ages WTF?

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>russia
>invading a NATO member
Just like they invaded Turkey for shooting down their plane amirite?
Mighty Russian "deep concerns"

We literally dindu nuffin that would warrant an invasion.

>>65870784
1. No. Russia wants annex Poland
2. If you hate Russia, u will go to GULAG

>>65871340
>actually wanting a useless shithole wih Afria tier infrastructure
>thanks

>>65871140
Thanks for response, but unironically some perheet of people are afraid of it.
Reasons:
>Fear of will to restore USSR and Warsaw Pact Block
>Provocative maneuvres like this or antinucleartraining for Russians (no offence but you dont have reason for it, its not Israel)
>or even Hybrid war with Ukraine

All is fueled additionally by tradition antipathy between us, and Fear ofLeague of Nations style reaction in case ofcourse attack.

>>65871380
well at least we can nuke the whole world several ties, so I am pretty sure NATO wouldn't dare to go full retard.

>>65871384
will we get a piece of poland?
pls

>>65871373
Iskander yes but the nukes were never confirmed or denied.

And as I see no sauce ITT I'm going to assume thats still the case.

>>65871395
They took it because Ukraine would kick them out of Sevastopol and give it to your Navy you fucking slowpoke

>>65871395
>not wanting to own a major strategic region

>>65871184
We ale still worried that someone in NATO will say they do not want to die for Gdańsk.

I am going to welcome sweet release

>>65870784
Is Kaliningrad the new Danzig?

>>65871448
Launchers aren't there permanently.
They are deploying on exercise, like once every year or so, no nukes this time either.

>>65871441
>WE WUZ NUCLEAR POWER N SHIEET
nice

>>65871484
There's zero reason to assume that would happen moreover Russia's navy is so laughably shit, and because of the fact that NATO controls the bosphorous, Sevastapol doesn't actually provide much use.

>>65870784

Does anyone have some sources on the matter? I have been monitoring US military traffic all week, and have so far found little in the way of anything abnormal.

>>65871446
No, u fucking capitalists. We will liberate u and create GDR again

>>65871184
you should be worried about NATO enslaving your government tbqh

>>65871548
it's the new königsberg desu

>>65871429
the only way Russia would invade Poland as iI think is:

1) NATO declares war on us
2) We need to have a buffer zone between us and strong Euro countries (the UK, France) so we would not fight on our own soil.

So until the US is not in a full scale war with us you are safe <3

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this is why we never should've abandoned our nuclear arms program

NEVER relax around russians

>>65871496
It stopped being strategic 100 years ago but typical backward Russia is blind to that fact.

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they did in 1939 so what's stopping them now?

>>65871616
I am worried but what can i do?

>>65871508
If Americans didnt intefere then NATO alliance would become worthless

>>65871669
>eternal swede wants to attack us again
Who would have guessed

>>65871140
>How did you even come up with that idea?

history, history, and history

ie history of kiliningrad

>>65871685
No German allies to splitroast Poland with

>>65871678
>typical backward Russia
is beating you in your own game for Syria

>>65871715
>>>>ie history of kiliningrad

>Germany declares war on us
>we fight the bloodiest war ever
>we get a piece of soil in Europe

it is simple as fuck just don't declare war and that is it

>>65871759
Ill never understand why Westerners hate us

>>65871810
xenophobia
you are a Slav

>>65871784
>our own game
And what's thst pray tell? Convincing Muslims to kill the shit out of each other?

We were doing just fine prior to your arrival.

>>65871597
It's called Black Sea fleet, not Mediterranean fleet for a reason.
If they can't get out, you can't get it.

poland will be gone when eu is gone
remember

i for one welcome ivan

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>>65871759
russians have never needed a reason to start aggressive wars
having germany was just a bonus

>>65871810
?

We don't hate you. We love you most of all the EE(aside from maybe Czech)

>>65871883
>a horde of bomber is going to bomb your country into atoms
>not a reason to defend your country

>>65870784
Nah, I don't wanna attack Poland, they seem to be cool guys.

>>65870784
>1) Do you / Russians believe that Poland wants to invade Russia?
No
>2) How do you /Russians think you will profit by eg. conquering Poland apart from showing those hateful Poles that you are kind by force
They won't

This is just flexing muscles
Also pic related is ridiculous, I hope one day we grow a spine and tell USA to fugg off

>>65871873
Like hell we can't, we have space laserz, railguns, and laser guides bombs. Just one carrier off Greece can literally attack every square mile of the black sea.

It's fucking useless. All you've managed to trap assets in an inescapable pond, good work.

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>>65871713
>russian source of aggression reversal

>>65871992
Who do you want to attack then?

>>65871930
>the invasion of poland was a defensive war
t. göbbels

>>65871881
Then it will just become a US state.

>>65872044
It was. If Poland didn't want a war then they shouldn't have shown off all their sexy lebensraum

If any Russian wants, you can ask me about accusations / bad opinions about Poland and I will try to answer

>>65872037
No one. Why can't we live in peace, developing science and diplomatic relationships?

>>65872188
Ask Putin

>>65871707
>If Americans didnt intefere then NATO alliance would become worthless

Yeah, in case of direct aggression they most likely would react, but what if all of a sudden some unnamed troops will show up here, just like in Crimea.

>>65872188
Because Russians and Muslims still exist.

>>65872220
As far as I am aware, unlike Ukraine, Poland has no big Russian minority or Population that is sympathic to Russia

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>>65872188
because you attacked ukraine and georgia and are constantly bullying your other neighbors

>>65872179
Everything is pretty clear. The US is butthurt that Russia doesn't accept their dominance in the world. US controls your media and forces you through the news, rewritten history to hate us. It is all temporal and doesn't really matter.

>>65871873
>>65872010
Oh and one more thing: in pissing off Ukraine Russia also lost their only dry docks capable of building any ship larger than a frigate.

Brilliant strategic thinking there.

>>65872011
>descendant of vikings
>wants to start a war one more time
Hmmmm.... took me by surprise

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>>65870784
I don't want war, I only want to watch animes. please go fight in antractica or something everyone.

>>65871799
>Germany declares war on us
>russia betrays the nazis

>we fight the bloodiest war ever
>we shoot our own people

>we get a piece of soil in Europe
>we steal from poland yet again

>>65872313
>The US is butthurt that Russia doesn't accept their dominance in the world.
Not accepting reality is a definition of insanity.

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>>65870784
So long term what do you goys think will happen with the Oblast. I'm talking like 100+ years

Becomes a separate country? Poland takes it? Russia annexes Belarus and tries to connect it back? nothing?

>>65872303
> bullying your other neighbors
Which ones? We don't have any relations with Balts today and the other are friendly towards us.
>picrel
I never supported crimea annexation and I'm not a nationalist as well

>>65872313
>The US is butthurt that Russia doesn't accept their dominance in the world.
> Russia doesn't accept their dominance in the world.
wouldn't that be butthurt?

>>65872422
Ist zi koszer?

>>65872457
>Which ones?
Balts
>I never supported crimea annexation
Putin does and it's his opinion that matters
that's the way of life in a dictatorship

>>65872329
>who is rurik?

>>65872422
Nothing will happen, it'll just continue to be part of russia

>>65872732
boooring

You don't think the proximity to lit/pol will change their culture? Or maybe with global warming russia will find it useless and sell it to poland/lit

>>65872290
True, although half of the world wars starts with invasion on Poland, so... :-)

>>65872554
> >Which ones?
> Balts
How exactly a common Russian living here is bullying them? Plus, I've been there a few times and I mostly like them.
Will other cunts always remind Russia and Germany of what they did in the 20th century even if they never liked it and were born decades later?

>>65872871
They're bascially illegal spics and they have to go back.

>>65872988
> living here
Not over there. I know that they've got shitload of hiv-infected immigrants over there

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>>65870784
>That US base in the Philippines.

>>65872871
i will never stop remind the nazis and the peasants of what they did

but thanks to them, i wasnt born in poland

>>65872785
>You don't think the proximity to lit/pol will change their culture?
No, because you still need an inflow of people in order to do that and right now no one in their right mind would willingly move to Russia. Especially not Poles or Balts.

It's a shitty region that only serves as a means of projecting power in the baltic. Which is also why Russia will never let go of it.

>>65873341
Goddammit. But I fucking hate it so much on maps. One of you Baltic fucks need to take it

>>65872220
>what if all of a sudden some unnamed troops will show up here
NATO will be free to kill them. Plus, America has its own well-trained private army of unnamed troops (I mean PMC).

>>65870784
US doesn't have any base here anymore. They were kicked out in 2011.

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>>65871852
>americans actually defending the regime

>>65872365

>>65873659
Whoa, Pakis have internet?

>>65873709
Is it your first day here?

>>65870784
1. No. US wants but cant right now. If we stop our researches and US doesnt in 10-15 years theyll have means to counter our nukes, Poland will be a battle ground and a bargianing chip, of no consequence as always
2. No profit, Russians gain nothing via a war with the west or with Poland, west has much to gain even fighting with Iraqs, much less talking Russia out of the equation

>>65873784
That obvious huh?

>that polish diaspora posting under the icelandic flag

>>65873807
>Poland will be a battle ground and a bargianing chip

You really should take this Mariupol first before talking shit like that.

>>65873659
but you are still allies and us is bound to protect you

>>65874215
Had Russia been fighting war with this mariupol right now but alas Ukraine isn't at war with Russia. In fact, Ukraine is at war with 3000 hobos with, supposedly some old Russian hardware

>>65874276
No we aren't. We don't have a mutual defense treaty.

>>65874382
>Had Russia been fighting war with this Mariupol right now

Strange thing Russia isn't fighting this war. Isn't it?

>>65872303
>attacked ukraine
What exactly do you mean by this? Initiating a referendum in Crimea and using Russian troops that were allowed to stay there by Ukraine? Funding pro-Russian rebels later (that were mostly funded with the help of local oligarch Akhmetov)? If so, then I can also say that Russia has been attacked.
>georgia
Russian peacemakers, that were allowed to stay there by the UN, were attacked and killed, Russia retaliated the next day.
>Saakashvili has involvment in both of those 2 conflicts (directly and indirectly)
Doesn't it really make you think?

>>65874504
Not at all. What would Russia want there? Russia has control of black sea. It safeguards European Russia against tomahawk strikes, giving us strategic stability which is all Putin's one-track mind seems to be after

i bet any country bordering russia
looses their shit when the country's internet goes down

>>65874276
No.

>>65871140
>How did you even come up with that idea
Knowing you too well...

>>65874683
Russia wanted Novorossiya, or even partitions of the state of Ukraine. At least that's what I learned on this boards from your countrymen two years ago. Hell if I know what for. Maybe you'll enlighten me?

>>65874594
>Russian peacemakers

things russians believe are real

>>65874276
> us is bound to protect you
From what, india?

>>65873784
Pakis are rare here

>>65874849
Russia's the only country that's brought peace and relative prosperity to a region if sunni jihadis insurgency despite the whole West trying and faiking time after time.

If truth hurts, don't let it show

>>65874719
>country's internet goes down
Has that already happened before? The entire country's internet going down?

>>65874594
>Russian peacemakers
a good one.

>>65874942
Even North Koreans aren't that rare (proxies, but whatever), Pakis are here every day. They even have their own general, /brit/

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>>65875078
BRIT KEKS BTFO

>>65874849
Peacekeepers I mean.

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>>65875078

>>65874996
I think it happened in Armenia when some scrapseller grandma cut off a power cable a few years ago.

>>65875160
I got what you mean. I am saying Russia and peace. An oxymoron.

>>65875057
See>>65874980
What the US has failed in iran, iraq, lybia, syria, somalia, Russia at it's weakest and poorest has done right . On a second try and not without difficulty, but still

>>65875289
Even "peacekeeping forces" itself is an oxymoron regardless of their country.

>>65875403
>US has failed
There were no intentions to bring peace to those countries, the US didn't fail.

>>65875289
>>65875490
Russia's stopped georgias shelling of living quarters of tskhinval in 2,5 days too

That's peacekeeping, even not counting 2,5 more days it took to dismantle Georgias NATO trained troops with hakf- conscript forse

>>65874980
Afghanistan disagrees
you do literally the same half ass job as everyone else does, but kill more innocent people in the process

>>65875625
Ah nice. The peace loving Russia basically invaded the tiny Georgia using South Ossetia as an excuse. Typical Nazi tactics. Hitler did the same.

>>65875643
So Russia's success in 50% out of 2 tries with both West and China supporting jihadis. Convinced west us 0 out of at least 4 tries

Cant say Russia's done bad

>>65875799
they did the same thing with crimea that the nazi did with gdańsk

>>65875799
> Basically invaded
Not if you read the EU reports which state Geargia initiated the fighting

But yeah the rest is just like a typically US cooperation since WW2 - an invasion, only it was done in 2 days and with at least an orderof of mahnitude less casualties

>russians invade baltics
>nato troops counterattack
>russians nuke warsaw
>western leaders rush to the negotiation table
>russians get baltics
>rinse and repeat until they own all of europe
>???
>profit!

>>65875976
>state Geargia initiated the fighting
No, I read about the bombing that injured several Georgian policemen. And it all escalated from there. A typical nazi style provocation.

Death to america

Russia literally doesn't give a fuck about poland. All the bald dicks have some form of mental illness which manifests in a certain way. Like extreme racism, alcoholism, suicide, and physical and mental abuse. Poland's senility has to do with their OBSESSION with Russia and Russians. There's no legitimate threat, it's just the throes of a collective mental disease.

>>65870784
Putin loves the germans and will reestablish prussia

>>65875879
as if

there is still insurgency in the northern caucasus
there is still insurgency in afganstan
still insurgency in syria

i also like the korean social experiment
lets see if the worst country in the world can make an even worse country , turns out they can

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Why attack Poland if they can attack countries with much weaker armies, mindsets and overall populus?

>>65876132
good goyim

Russia will not do anything, WW1 was started because of Austria and WW2 was started because of Poland.

>>65876317
nah, no one just believes russian lies :)

>>65876189
But dear Lesbianon, we're all living in America -
America - ist wunderbar.

>>65876292
Still tons better than any Western attempt. Google pictutes of grozny. That's what aleppo will look like in 10 years. Iraq will still look worse than it did in 2002.

>>65876345
>Austria
You can put it this way, but still it was Bosnia. And Serbs. Balkans man. Shit starts there.

>>65876345
> WW1 was started because of Austria
Shame that we took bad guys side back then

>>65876189
if you love russia so much why dont you go back to syria

for the past 500 years , russia has fought poland about 20 times, and only left poland as recently as 26 years ago with the fall of communism and the return of the polish government to poland

russia will be back its only a matter of time

they cant even handle their own shitty country, like they need more land to fuck up

Why would Russia want Poland?

>Poland is at the centre of Europe bordering king of the hill Germany.
>Poland is in the best position for trade in Europe. North, South, East, West and all Nears are easily accessible.
>Poland is the crown of Europe. Who owns Poland rules the world.
>Carpathian mountains are perfect security. If lands of Eastern Europe were united under one banner, one can easily invade Germany if he wants to, while Germany can't do shit through Eastern Germany’s small European gate.
>With addition of Poland, Russian heartland could use rimland's resources and heartland's economic prowess to become tzars n shiet.
>With Poland, unification of all Slavs becomes a reality. When Russia would get their economy together with their resources.
>Poland is the last piece of puzzle to Europe's true power. USA keeps Europe in check not by controlling Germany, but by holding not-weak-at-all Poland between Germs and Ruskies.

>>65876598
In the last 500 years Poland has fought Russia no fewer times than vice versa, ob canafian scholar

Poland has never released it's grip on moscow when it had it ( once). Russianswent bare- handed against t80 thanks and had a revolt that freed the poles who were for 50 years too afraid to fight the oppressive government. Instead of a thank you, Russia got hate

>>65876418
right, just like

eritrea
somolia
angola

every country russia touches,

turns to shit

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>>65876973

>>65876766
The fact that you left Poland to love on an island in the atlantic where people look at you ascanse because you are a slav and not an Arab makes your well-thought-through post funny instead of curious, sorry

>>65877128
> you left Poland to live(?) on an island in the atlantic
Literally what?

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hope russia and belarus steamrolls us, then we're annexed by batka

can't stand this government and it's inane russophobia and nato bootlicking

>>65877038
Don't get your point
Are you one of those Erethruan Canafian Who think your country was good before Euris or American assasinated you communist leader?

Again, I was saying this:
US, all its allies in tow has tried multiple times (started goal) to bring please to the land of Sunni insurgency. It failed every time.

Russia did it despite being broke and at it's weakest.

Fun fact: jihad is an Arab word. Warriors of jihad are called "jihadi" in the West. That's not an Arab word. Arabic for 'warrior if jihad' is 'mujaheddeen'. For some reason, Western media doesnt use tgat word now, though it had used it before.

>>65876973
>>65876973
>Russianswent bare- handed against t80 thanks and had a revolt that freed the poles who were for 50 years too afraid to fight the oppressive government. Instead of a thank you, Russia got hate

oh my god thats golden. i bet all the russian text books read like this

>>65877296
hes referring to the(assumed) polish guy living in UK.

but britian is no better, their lack of action in 1939 i will never forget

>>65877296
He's clearly a Polish immigrant in the UK, neither.

>>65877377
Belarus won't be having it
They aren't inherently pro-russian, Lukashenko just wants stability of his rule and I don't see him joining up with russia unless he sees clear benefits of that

>>65877524
None of Russian textbooks do, at least when I was In school, we had Soros Fund textbooks that said Russia is shit, SHIT

>>65877497
i dont even know what half the words are you are trying to say. everything russia touches either turns to russia (chechen) or turns to shit

the weest doesnt use the word mujaheddeen anymore for glaringly obvious reasons related to afganastan in the 1980's

but dont pretend russia brings peace anywhere, we all know it doesnt

>>65877524
Well, at least they didn't make peace with Germans on their own, as it was written in our treaty, in it's secret part.

Seriously, in '39 noone knew yet how Blitzkrieg works or that Hitler dostanie pierdolca and actually will treat Slavs as subhumans, even though Slav allies and soldiers would save his fucking ass on the East.

>>65877672
>>65877672
>Soros Fund textbooks
How the fuck did that happen?

>>65877672
>Soros Fund textbooks
just looked that up
thats fun

>>65877833
Chechnya is more peaceful than any place in the ME NATO has invaded - ever

That's a fact bro. Like I said, if truth hurts, dont make but show. Every other month we have a shootout in a mountain village in Chechnya ir Ingushetia with 3-5 terrirusts killed and it makes nation al need. That's less often than baghdad has a 100+ deathtoll suicude bombing that doesnt make it to BBC ir CNN

>>65877930
Serbia has them too. And so do you. If you have kids, read the fine print on the incident of fist cover of their books. They read what your master want them to read.ci know you have serbs just like ingushi hate cgechens or abhazi hate georgiabs, but think about it for a monent, that's what you get for your EU membership and Bundesbank loans. Every time.

>>65878090
> nation al need.
Nation al need
Sorry for bad shelling, i've given up on my phones english keyboard

>>65878401
> National N E W S

>>65878294
> incident of fist cover
Inside of dust cover

>>65878294
>read the fine print on the incident of fist cover of their books
I don't understand this part.
Nah, the textbooks don't promote hating Serbians here and most teachers would go out of their way to disagree with such claims.
However, they unambiguously say that EU and NATO are absolutely necessary and good, which is only partly true. And that USA is good, which is ridiculous.
Also you should have kept the books for evidence instead of burning them.

>>65878090
yeah, chechnya is more peaceful than bosnia

russia number one at peace nato bad
russia has been in more conflicts than nato, and left way more shit holes behind than nato

but yeah sure, lets give it to russia, they sure know how to eventually fix a problem that they initially caused

>>65877128
I'm sorry :( also I am sorry for late reply.

I just listed all the reasons that Russian leaders would think of if they truly wanted Russian Tsardom to flourish. Well, I guess they wanted to. Poland is just prone to make miracles happen. You can't take it by force otherwise they will miracle you out whether in a year or in 123 years.

>Our neighbours enslaved us
>World War 1 freed us
>World War 2 enslaved us
>Cold War freed us
>World War 3 ??? we might as well go HAM and try take Moscow while they will fight US with China. And we will do it right, not like the loser Hitler. We will take Moscow and Sankt Petersburg.

>>65878709
That " burning Soros books" is the only google result you get is (probably ) not a coincidence either. In fact that was done in some remote village once, to my knowledge. That made international news, not like another 100+ dead bombing in Syria and another one in Iraq that week. Or this week.

>>65872037
I want attack your mom

>>65878709
>hat EU and NATO are absolutely necessary and good, which is only partly true. And that USA is good, which is ridiculous.

slow down there goran
it was nato and the US that overlooked your past with the nazis and betrayed its ww2 ally serbia to bail your ass out

>>65878836
So youre going for 25% rate for NATO? Too bad, I tlaked about cases of NATO fighting Sunni insurgency,not supporting it

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Plz don't scare me.
I don't want a war.

>>65879259
soon very soon
blood will spill like an ocean

>>65879088
bosnia
kosovo
afganastan- aka cleaning up russias mess
iraq - our bad
libya- our bad

the difference is, nato didnt start these problems

russia startes the problems, and then thinks they are king shit when they fix a problem they started


which korea is doing better?
its not the russian one
how are all the other commie countries in the world doing china excluded?
they are doing shit. including china

>>65878996
This week is mostly "Russian military planes 'violating' other countries' airspace" and "Russia threatening NATO with war".

>>65879060
>your past with the nazis
Yeah, because the partisan movement started in Croatia while Belgrade was declared "Judenfrei" at the time, right?
And they did a very poor job in 1990s here, if it wasn't for the in '95, Bosnia today would have been stable.

>>65879259
Relax, m8. This song about evil Russians continues for two years and becomes more and more boring.

>>65879470
>its not the russian one
It was never Russian one. Only idiot can believe best Korea has been fully controlled by Russians for all time it exists

>>65879470
> Kosivo is more prosperity than Chechnya
No, also NATO sides with jihad
> Bosnia
Not bad, but NATO side with 'mujaheddeen' as well
> Afghanis than more peaceful than Chechnya
Lel, and you're fighting the menace youve create
The rest is also fail on Western part. Russia while not able to provider food and ammo for the army has done whatthe entirely West has failed at multiple times.

NATOs worst nightmare: Russia doing it again in Aleppo whole using 30 war planes, while US has 380 in the region and allies have 300 more

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>>65879259
Sorry m8, the russian soul is only at peace in war times, so we must give you your medicine.

>>65879588
Truth to tell, channek Russia 24 is all about those American generals saying war with ruand China is unavoideable.

I could hate Russian propaganda but then I remember I know english, turn on BBC (have it on my Rostelekom default cable, also Euronews in Rissian) hear the shit they talk about my country and I go vote for Putin again

>>65879470
>kosovo
>the difference is, nato didnt start these problems

Nato bombed Serbia without a UN authorization.
Remind us again, Nato is a defensive alliance, right?

>>65880108
> Russia and China
Sorry, autocorrect

>>65880178
Serbia was committing war crimes, something had to be done. Authorization would've come too late

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>>65880305

>>65878709
>Also you should have kept the books for evidence instead of burning them.

peasents will do peasent things

>>65879803
>Lel, and you're fighting the menace youve create

russia created it, the west just helped it grow

>>65879770
no one thinks that. but when planting seeds for a country, the american seeds grow into a nice member of society, and the russian seeds grow into a a pile of shit

>>65880178
like id expect an albanian to understand

>>65880305
Yeah. And a few vitnesses dying at suspicious circumstances isn't going to shake the 'intetnational' court, we all know.

Also, Iraq had WMDs

>>65880558
>like id expect an albanian to understand
Good one.

>>65880477
iraq was the one that claimed to have WMD's
\because they were afraid of russias buddy, who is also in the conquest game, would invade them again

just one big misunderstanding really

>>65880305
Why NATO didn't intervene with such zeal in Syria years ago, then?

>>65880558
Wasn't seems, south kora wasn't any less of a dictatirship in the 60es, read up about it. The only thing that helped it was West being way richer, and Kim family being especially stupid.

None of this adds any credit to the West

>>65880684
because of fucking russia

are you literally 16
this happened 5 years ago

russia keeps blocking votes for peace

>vatniks and RT-brainwashed /pol/tards
facepalm.jpg

Pls gib visa, I want to stop my suffering in this country.

>>65880643
>just one big misunderstanding really
-> >>65880305

>>65880745
>West being way richer,
> and Kim family being especially stupid.

>west not loosing all its money to the corrupt mod state known as communism
>peasants backing peasants

>>65880305

Kek

>>65880684
Because Syria wasn't commit war crimes at the time.

>>65880835
one big misunderstanding

difference being serbia did possess graves of mass destruction and ethnic clenching

>>65880794
NATO isn't UN, moron...and Russia isn't in NATO afaik...hence it can't block vote anything...I was referring to NATO intervention in Serbia, not backed by UN and clearly an example of that big excuse of r2p

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>>65880827
Steal this kot from Putin and I will give you greencard.

>>65880305
>Serbia was committing war crimes
The bombing was in 1999, the war crimes had started as early as 1992. Educate yourself if you want to argue.

>>65880108
>hear the shit they talk about my country and I go vote for Putin again
Understandable. It's better this was, the West needs a counterbalance.


>>65880684
>Why NATO didn't intervene with such zeal in Syria years ago, then?
Why didn't they intervene on time when the U.S. Embassy in Libya was attacked?

>>65880643
>iraq was the one that claimed to have WMD's
USA was the one claiming Iraq had WMD in 2003, a claim that had been refuted since.

>>65880983
Oh wow.

>>65880827
I already complained about this on int tosay, my neurobiologist friend has a hard time getting a visa, my physicist friend with a french phd actually failed to get one

Youre fucked, my friend

>>65880983
Use of chemical weapons isn't red line enough? Response consisted in partial dismantle of the Syrian arsenal...just that

>>65880827
You cant get a visa, they all think all Russians are kgb

Sorry

>>65881023
>The North Atlantic Treaty Organization also called the North Atlantic Alliance, is an intergovernmental military alliance based on the North Atlantic Treaty which was signed on 4 April 1949. The organization constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defence in response to an attack by any external party.

>mutual defence in response to an attack by any external party
Remind us, when did Serbia attack any member to warrant a bombing campaign on itself?

>>65881030
good point, nato peacekeepers arent the same as UN peacekeepers

>>65881248
Thanks...they'll use the r2p excuse, probably

>>65881176
Didnt Russia remove all the chem weapons from assad without 1 life lost? I think we're pretty awesome for that too, actually. Like America's Iraq only with 500000 less dead people and actually existing I real life WMDs

>>65881248
un called for no fly zone
nato was the enforcer of this no fly zone
serbs dont give a fuck, so they get shot down
serbs are also peasants and dont understand so they retaliate
retaliation leads to more retaliation

>>65881389
Well, my point was more in general the double weight used when it comes dealing with Russia, like everything is a concentrate of evil if done there and perfectly legit when done by someone else...

>>65881389
ha, yeah, yet chemical attacks still happen in syria

besides, russia needs those chem weapons back to use in Ukraine

>>65881759
All chem attacks ae done by isis and Western-semi-supported an nusra now, even in Western news

Russia actually has bioweaoons stockpiles, I think, same as the US, and chem-capable factiries in my city. In Ukraine though, 3000 hobos fight a European Union potential member with 42000000 population. Why would Russia need to get involved in that circus beyond the level US was involved in Afghanis than ir Sausis are invilved now in Syria?

>>65881606
>un called for no fly zone
>nato was the enforcer of this no fly zone

?

Yeah Russia stop bullying your neighbors.

>tfw diaspora from Kaliningrad region
>tfw this area is literally one big army base
>everything is more expensive than in "big russia"
>tfw my family admitted that they went shopping in poland (when they had that special visa thing) and got twice as much stuff than they could have bought in russia
>tfw Königsberg is still being called Kaliningrad
>tfw Prussia is dead
Truth hurts

>>65883929
>Prussia is dead
Good. But somehow this area seems to swap ownerships from worse to worst.

>>65881107
To be fair, the Americans and the EU couldn't bomb Serbia during the wars here and in Bosnia since, in the eyes of international law, it wasn't the state of Serbia waging war in Croatia, but rather "paramilitaries and rebel groups" supported by Serbia.

On the other hand. the Kosovo war was waged by the Serbian state and within the (then) legally recognized borders of Serbia, and thus NATO went on bombing sprees.

That, and the giant ass mineral reserves in Kosovo that were owned by Serbian companies, nationalized by Kosovo as "indemnities" and then summarily privatized to American investors.

Who would have guessed, right?

>>65884188
Best time was with Teutonic Knights..