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why are other countries so shit at english?

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why are other countries so shit at english?
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>france
haha retards
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>u.k.
>95%
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>>65866039
Mutes and deaf people, I guess.
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>>65865813
>Great Britain
>95%
what hahahahahaha
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>>65866039
>>65866063
Immigrants.
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>>65865813
>france
is it ok to go there if I speak only english?
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>>65866039
>>65866063
there's a greater than symbol before the 95%
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>>65866097
>damage control
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>>65865813
Dutch English is odd. It's pretty good English by syntax and grammar but it's pronounced like Dutch.
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>>65865813
51% is too damn high
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>>65866146
I often find that germanic origin words sound less sophisticated than their romance counterparts.

Hence Dutch people (who are more likely to pick dumb, germanic words) sound like autismo roborts when they speak english

alsoo wat doe joe mien we pronouns it lijk dutsj?
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>>65866287
All Germanics sounds like autism robots when they speak, regardles of language
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>>65865813
>Austria 73%
I don't get it.
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There's more people fighting globalism than i originally thought. Better go kill myself and lower that statistic.
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>>65865813
Spanish is a spreaded language and there is no real need to learn english if you're not moving to the uk or the usa
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>>65865813
>95% England
Fucking chavs
I blame the urban youth
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>>65865813
There are more English speakers in Belarus than in Spain? Really?
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>American exchange student in my uni course
>She's struggling with wording some very basic things
>Help her out since why the fuck not
>"wow anon you're so good at English!"

I was genuinely surprised that a USA citizen that has the capability to go to university struggled with basic English.

Is this common in American uni students or was this a special case?
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They can't speak French, why should we speak English? Because "muh lingua franca"? No way.
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>>65866860
Or immigrants.
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>>65867028
Is what common? A fair amount of our university students are stupid but you have to clarify what you mean.
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>>65865813
Fuck the eternal anglo 2bh
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>>65867048
we do kind of
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>>65867028
If she's studying abroad than she's rich af and prob has the brain the size of a pea. Only the top 2% can afford to travel oversees, let alone study abroad.
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>>65867048
:DDD this is 100% French autism

French people ask directions in French here. It's happened twice to me that some silly baguette starts speaking French to me. The arrogance with which they approach you followed by their unintelligible french bullshitting. Call me edgy but I thought about taking an elementary French course just so I can comprehend where they need to go only to point them in the complete opposite direction.
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>>65867155
>Irish
>foreign in Ireland
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>>65867155
WTF
T
F

I love Britain now :'DDDDDDD

(and Luxembourg)

>>65867200

There is nothing wrong with our autism.
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>>65866860
greater than 95% it says
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>>65867200
Just tell them the wrong direction with a smile on your face.

That's what we do here when people ask us shit in Spanish (unless they are actually Spanish)
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>>65866097
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>>65865813
>Spain has the by far highest number of British immigrants in Europe
>is still the most shit at English
Gives light to your bulb
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>>65866672
I wonder that as well.
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>>65867261
It's been a French guy holding a map or phone and pointing at it and talking French at 1.5 speed. 10 seconds in they figure that I didn't understand shit and they will just walk away.

French is not a very welcoming language. People will not speaker slower for you even if you're trying to learn the language I've heard. French people are turbo cunts and accept no less than a native level of French.
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I bet we're so good at english because we REALLY don't want to learn swedish nor russian at all. I'd learn eesti but there were no classes for that
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>>65867408
Then do the same thing to them in Dutch. Fuck the frogs. They weren't invited anyway.
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>>65867200
You lie, you don't leave your house.
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>>65867442
>70%
>good

you missed the meme
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>>65867442
It's probably because of gaming culture and cold winters forcing you to sit inside all day. Since media and entertainment is anglo dominated most youngsters get exposed to English at an early age because that's what kiddos do when they can't go outside.
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>90% of Dutch people can converse in English
>according to Dutch people
Ditch this shit.
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>>65867492
And those 70% are really good at it on the world scale. Have you ever heard a frenchman speaking english? Its horrible

>>65867523
That is true also
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>>65867492
I think the number would be a lot higher among young people
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>>65867200
>country's tourism industry entirely based on weed and whores
>act surprised when he only meets our lower class people

lmao use your brain henk
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>>65867155
>Irish
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>>65867645
I've been to France many times, you're all cunts and it's a very common opinion here that French people are rude to non-French speakers.

It's purely language based though because you seem to enjoy the french speaking nignogs flooding your country ;^)
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>>65867747
Oh geez, another autist exposing himself... you sure love to come out during week ends on /int/
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>>65867540
We're always #1 when it's self-reported

That proves that we're the most arrogant people on this planet.

Really makes ya think
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>>65867798
>My feelings are hurt better call him an autist
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>>65865813
>dutch intellectualists
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>>65867852
feelings? lmao I know people like you, the kind of people who lie to others just to be able to tell something. that's very girlish, you're mentally weak.
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>>65866623
Do we, Mehmet?
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>>65867918
I haven't lied in any of my posts in this thread. You're delusional my man
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>>65865813
Old people and lower avarage inteligence.
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>>65867200
This has happened to me, they were very surprised when I began to indicate them in french.
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>>65865813
because other languages don't sound like a retarded baby with German and English parents
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>>65865813
>>65867200
>>65867408
Dutch people are proud that their language will be dead in 50 years lmao
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>>65867918
He's right with everything he said though.
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>>65868642
Switzerfucks are proud that they raped the German language lmao

Go suck some French dick
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>>65868642
are there unironically people who believe this?

btw, this is pretty ironic coming from switzerland, how is your language doing?
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>you will never know what english sounds like to a non-native (or non-english) speaker
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>>65868788
Which one?
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>>65868902
the one that is actually yours

>>65868791
an ugly version of french 2bh
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>>65868791
can't imagine it being that different from what you're experiencing
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I'm very surprised by greek percentage
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>>65868791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj5TL1l9QYQ
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>>65868935
I can't hear how my language sounds, I just hear words

it's the same reason why most americans think they don't have an accent despite General American being an incredibly strong one
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>>65868932
Schwyzertütsch? Pretty good. It's effective at keeping german cunts out of our country
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>>65868935
It's pretty noticeable, you swedes sound ridiculous.
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That dutch accent though
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>>65868791
I wonder how well they could differentiate accents.
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>>65869009
I hear how Slovak sounds but that is probably because I hear Czech daily from childhood too so I can compare it.
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>>65865813
Because they're a bunch of stupid beaners.
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>>65869009
I don't really perceive english any different than I do swedish desu

there are words and I understand them the instant I hear or read them (granted I do read and listen to an awful lot of english content, so my experience is probably not representative of the average swede)

>>65869052
the accent? yeah it's pretty bad
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>>65868966
love this video
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>>65869038
Because you constantly sound like you're having a stroke
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>>65867155
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>>65868764
Hahahha mate, what? Your way of speaking the german language will forever be associated with a genocidal maniac. Ask literally any non-german in the entire world which dialect is more pleasant to hear.
Also merci für den Konmentar, aber ich muss gehen, ich kauf mir einen Glace nach einer gemütlichen Velofahrt
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>>65865813
Well Dutch is really similar to English so it's not really fair.
We also use a lot of English words in our language.
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>>65869443
>We also use a lot of English words in our language
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>>65869533
At least it's not Arabian, my Brown friend.
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>tfw my English is better than 70% of Southern Europe
Feels gud man
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>>65865813
because we actually value our language

Pic related; 250+ years of British rule, right on the border with the motherfucking USA, on a continent where we're literally outnumbered 50 to 1 by anglophones, in a country where, as a minority, we're less than 25% of the population, and to make it all worse we have a significant anglo minority in our homeland (these days it's "only" 7-8% but in the past it was as much as 25% at one point). And yet, despite all of this, we as a society are not even slightly bilingual.

feelsgoodman

>>65868642
literally this

exactly the same as Swedes
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>>65867442
Isn't swedish taught in your schools?
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>>65869635
>250+ years of British rule
sorry, British/Canadian*

The actual British rule was a bit over 100 years in duration.
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>>65868791
Literally the same, you nincompoop.
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>>65869443
t. randstad

>>65869533
only people from the viscinity of amsterdam for some reason
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>>65869559
There are virtually no arabic loan words in Swedish, ahmed.

>>65869635
>coming from the supposedly anglo country that has a lower english proficiency than scandinavian
hehe mm ok piere
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>>65869718
no, as in someone who speaks english as a second (third, etc) language, or doesn't speak it at all
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>>65869432
Never heard anything like that. And even if it's true, they don't know how ridiculous you sound from a Germans perspective since, you know, they don't speak any German and have no way to experience the cringeworthy existence from your retarded offspring of an accent like we do.

>muh Hitler
That argument only counts for actual retards

Guten Tag
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>>65869661
They're forced to, but no one really cares. Which is usually what happens when you force people to do things they don't necessarily want to do.
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Big enough to stay between ourselves I guess

Your country is so small it doesn't have mountain for Christ sake, no wonder you all learn English to understand what the fuck is going on above the water line
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>>65869741
>wat zijn leenwoorden

>>65869749
That's because they're no longer loan words, Arabian is one of the national languages.
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>>65869760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Dfa4fOEY
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>>65869822
engelse leenwoorden hebben we toch haast niet? Kan er zo vlug geen bedenken naast "sorry"

alleen in de randstad hoor je dat veel. In de witte delen van nederland praten we nog gewoon nederlands, maak je geen zorgen
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>>65866860
>>65866063
>>65866039

I was working in a chippy in my town which is a seaside town that gets a lot of tourists in the summer. A super old couple walked in and were struggling to order a meal. I asked if they spoke Welsh, they said yes, so I went and got someone who spoke Welsh and they did the order.

I've also seen a younger kid translating for what appeared to be his grandmother on the train and they both spoke Welsh.

Keep in mind that there are people in Wales, Ireland and Scotland who's first language isn't English and they're so old that they struggle to speak English
It will be a tiny amount of people, but they're still there
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>>65869760
I don't understand how it could sound any different.
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>>65869760


>>65869857
this. the language doesn't start sounding any different once you learn it.
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>>65869822
>Arabian is one of the national languages
Only Swedish is an official language in Sweden. The five minority languages are sami, finnish, meänkieli, romani and yiddish.

Maybe if you actually elect someone that won't actively try to eradicate your own people, like Geert Wilders, you won't feel such an urge to project in the future.
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>>65869749
>>coming from the supposedly anglo country that has a lower english proficiency than scandinavian
are you dense?

my entire point is that even Quebec is able to value its language more than Swedes and Dutch who are more than happy to have their language go extinct within the next 100 years, DESPITE our huge disadvantage (i.e. all the reasons I cited in my previous post).
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>>65869911
>romani and yiddish
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>>65869853
Het woord "appreciëren" bijvoorbeeld.
Komt van het woord "appreciate", alleen dan vernederlandst.
We lenen daarnaast ook veel van Duits en Frans.
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>>65867347
the thing is, the vast majority of those people will NEVER learn any spanish beyond a few simple phrases
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>>65869911
>3 finnic languages
KHAN'D
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>>65869952
dat komt uit het frans dikzak

http://www.etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/apprecieren
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>>65869857
Japanese is my meme second language.
While for the most part I just hear the words of the language, if I stop consciously listening I can hear how it sounds.
I can also pick out the allophones that the natives aren't aware of, and other things like that

I can listen to Slovene and since I know precisely 0, all I hear is exclusively the characteristic sounds that make up Slovene.

I can't do this with english.

>>65869896
I'm not saying it sounds different, I'm trying to say I can't "hear" the language, just the words
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>>65870004
Dat maakt het niet Nederlands.

Ik snap dat je nationalistisch wilt zijn, maar wees op z'n minst ook reëel.
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>>65869052
They sound pretty funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9DST-6jIBU
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>>65870024
ah I see what you mean now
you know what a language sounds like but you don't understand it, but because you've spoken English from day one, you can't force yourself to stop understanding it and just listen to it
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>>65870061
nee maar het is ook geen engels he? dat is waarop je doelde of niet?
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>>65869794
>>65869432
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>>65870024
I can do this in both English and Norwegian. Noticing the charicteristic sounds might be an easier task if you know several languages
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>>65870117
Klopt, het was een fout voorbeeld.
Hier is een lijst met Engelse leenwoorden als je echt zo geïnteresseerd bent: http://www.dejongenskamer.nl/anglicismen.htm
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>>65869980
>swedish is an official language in finland
BIRGER JARL'D

>>65869939
>go extinct within the next 100 years
and you're calling me dense? wew
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>>65870160
ja maar die woorden gebruikt toch niemand?
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>>65869809
It's the same here with English, we just don't give a fuck about it. You can perfectly live without knowing a bit of English
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>>65870270
Misschien niet als je in een dorp woont ergens diep in de Bijbelgordijn, maar in de rest van het land zijn woorden zoals interview en parking heel normaal.
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>>65870300
difference is that finland have a swedish speaking minority
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>>65870024
I started doing this with spanish once I learnt english
Sometimes it's very weird because I start analysing the words and they become awkward to read
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>>65865813

In Finland the second language used to Germany/nothing so people who are over 60-70 haven't studied English and might not speak any English at all. English became the number one language like during the 1960s and nowadays pretty much everyone studies English.
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>>65870403
The minority still speaks Finnish just like everyone else
t. hurri
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>>65870513
I sometimes remember that I've actually studied french in school
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Because you are in same language family and since all germanics are cultureless bastards you just consume english speaking media since day 1
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>>65865813
Not putting effort nor money.
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>>65870389
interview dat hoor je ja vaak maar een parking is gewoon een parkeerplaats. Ook woorden als "turntable" "trojan horse" "push up" "searchen" "feedback" en "fair" onder andere hoor ik nooit. er staan meer woorden die ik niet hoor/niet ken op deze lijst dan woorden die wel gebruikt worden.
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Romance languages are so beautiful, that we are not forced to learn a shitty, down syndrome language like english.
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>>65870530
>The minority still speaks Finnish just like everyone else
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>>65870403

Yeah, less than 5% of the population on the main land and those who are actually Swedish speaking all live in small villages in western Finland and have very little contact with Finnish people, they go to Vaasa once a year for Pampas Veckan and to buy clothes and there they might hear Finnish language. Other than that they just whine about losing privileges and ponder whether to move to Sweden or not.

Those that live in major cities always speak native level Finnish as well, albeit they like talking in their broken Fenno-Swedish to each other, where you literally have every third word in Finnish, those that aren't so highly educated probably couldn't even discuss fluently with Swedish people....
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>>65870738
It's probably for the best given how disgusting their mongol monotone dialect is. Only Ã…land is worth saving.
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Fun fact: Back when French was more important most Swedes were fluent in that as well.

It seems we're linguistically adapt.
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>>65870642
What's disgusting about not being retarded? It takes a special kind of retard to live somewhere your whole life and not speak the language
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>>65870851
>how disgusting their mongol monotone dialect is
them's fighting words boy, finlandssvensk > rikssvensk
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>>65870874
What's the point of learning Finnish if you live on Ã…land? Most of you speak English already so there's really no need for a second lingua franca, is there?
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>>65870929
>not using proper article
this is what I mean, truly fucking disgusting
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>>65870938
I don't live on Ã…land, I live in Helsinki

>>65870984
what, you mean rikssvenskA? At least we don't sound like huge faggots like you Stockholmers
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>>65870938
>What's the point of learning Swedish if you live in Finland? Most of you speak English already so there's really no need for a second lingua franca, is there?

FTFY no problem. I, like most Finns, don't give a fuck about Ã…land, only thing that pisses me off is the fact that they don't have to go to the army.

>>65870984

Finnish Swedish is better for guys, Rikssvenska is better for girls, guys speaking Rikssvenska sound just gay.
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>>65871056
>I don't live on Ã…land, I live in Helsinki
It was an example, my autistic friend

>>65871056
>implying I'm a cuckholmer
rude
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>>65865813
Eastern Europe would be because when we were part of Warsaw Pact the only foreign language that was taught was Russian not English.
Back then you couldn't even learn english I believe.
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>>65871107
Yeah but even if you live on Ã…land you don't really need to actively learn finnish, you just pick it up from media etc. the only way not to learn finnish in finland is to actively avoid it

>>65871107
the only non gay swedish accent besides ours is the northern swedish accent
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>>65870865
NO BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT THIS TIME YOUR LANGUAGE IS GOING EXTINCT PLEASE PANIC

t. /int/ language pro
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>>65871078
>implying finlandssvenska isn't gay af
https://youtu.be/_aX98I6Deyo?t=260
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>>65870738
>Those that live in major cities always speak native level Finnish as well, albeit they like talking in their broken Fenno-Swedish to each other, where you literally have every third word in Finnish
Funny, this is the opposite of my experience.
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>>65871186
Picking up random words and sentences isn't really the same as speaking the language though.

>the only non gay swedish accent besides ours is the northern swedish accent
t. raggarit
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>>65871314
>posts a literal faggot
I guess you yourself know you're wrong when you need to dig so deep
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>>65871376

Where do you live and where does your experience come from? I spent one year in Dragsvik and literally everyone who was from a city of at least 100 000 inhabitants spoke native level Finnish.
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>>65871411
He's pretty much the most well known finn in sweden
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>>65871383
Yeah but even most Ã…landers speak fluent Finnish (they have an accent but still)
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>>65871314

You do realize that he actually is gay and he actually is talking about his experiences as gay not living in the closet? You also realize that actual gays tend to sound gay, no matter the language? With Rikssvenska the problem is that heteros also sound gay, gays just sound extra gay.
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your daughters will grow up learning my language, they will moan in English while I fuck them
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>>65871478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3YqfUfauvs (starts at 0:17) Obviously he's speaking gibberish but this is still a lot closer to finlandssvensk than what you posted
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>>65871478

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJeF3DyzTdU not based Nalle?
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>>65871456
Turku. The only ones I've met which fit your description were the party girl type.

I know a bunch who do not speak fluent level Finnish, even struggle a bit in daily life because of it. But those that are and don't fit the type mentioned above just about never insert Finnish words as replacements or have a broken form of fennoswedish.

Of course, I won't deny their existence, but this is just my experience.
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>>65871654

I didn't meet any Turku people who didn't speak excellent Finnish in the army, even in Vaasa pretty much everyone speak very good Finnish (of course if you go 10 kilometers outside of Vaasa the situation changes totally).
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>>65871631
sounds even worse desu

the completely dead and flat finnish accent is not compatible with the swedish pitch accent

>>65871640
no idea who is more famous, but levengood is still fairly well known
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>>65871927

Well based Nalle speaks actual Fenno-Swedish, not dildo up the ass dialect of Levengood who haven't lived in Finland in like 30 years.
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>>65871927
It is not only compatible but superior, Nalles accent is pretty much "dead and flat" as well (just not overdone for comedic purposes like in the other clip) and he sounds a thousand times manlier than the swede in that interview
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>>65871631
That's not finlandssvensk though. That's just Swedish spoken by a typical Finnish speaker.
Nalle here
>>65871640
on the other hand speaks actual finlandssvensk.
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>>65865813
i thought poland was much higher
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>>65866074
You'd do better speaking russian.
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>>65871995
It's not very difficult to sound manlier than someone from stockholm tho

perhaps if finland was still part of sweden rikssvenska would sound a lot more like finlandssvenska, but as it stands now you've pretty much butchered the language
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>>65871122
My dad learnt German as a child.
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>>65872463
So just because we don't sound gay when speaking it, we've butchered the language?
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>>65872799
I take it you haven't been to Sweden? Rikssvenska is unlike finlandssvenska in that no one really speaks it. It's a made up dialect that is supposed to work a bridge between all dialects. A lingua franca but on an dialect level if you will.

I completely agree that people from stockholm sound like faggots, but most swedes don't speak like they do.
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>>65869942
When those were declared minority languages, there were fairly solid groups speaking those.
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>>65869794
So what you're saying is as long as someone is exposed to the german accent long enough they'll learn to tolerate it? Yea, that hardly speaks well for you.
I realise how hard your people are trying to forget your own history, but youre hardly going to break the association other people have of german with loud, yelling, spitting idiots
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>>65875636
Hitler's accent and way of speech literally got nothing to do with his or the third reich's actions.
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>>65875895
Nobody said that
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>UK only 95%
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>>65869854
What's a chippy?
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>>65874254
And now?
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>>65876302
An establishment specialising in the preparation and sale of traditional English fast food including but not limited to battered fish, chips (known as fries in some territories), battered sausages, scampi and pies.
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>>65869854
>Keep in mind that there are people in Wales, Ireland and Scotland who's first language isn't English and they're so old that they struggle to speak English
Don't think there's any monolingual Gaeilge/Gaidhlig speakers left though, lad. Wales just hasn't reached the 21st century yet.
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>>65865813
>being proud of having no culture of their own
there's a clear corelation between these two
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>>65875895
Anyone asked to do a German accent usually tries to impersonate Hitler lad.
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>>65877801
Seamus knows
The Welsh are a queer breed, more concerned with sheep rustling and rolling in slag heaps than creating a civilisation. A bit like the Irish but without any of the good/decent/likeable bits

>tfw Monmouthshire morlocks don't speak The Queen's
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