Who is more powerful? Russia or USA? and why?

>>65848096
Are you literally retarded?

it is not they doing sanctions to us

Even France could easily handle Russia

Russia, it has a stronger military and leader.

>>65848096
Canada

>>65848096
Retarded prsn
>>65848228
this

>>65848096
It's pretty obvious.
The better question is, who also could beat russia in a war?

I think turkgay, could beat them, and maybe israel.

>>65848411
Poland singlehandly

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>>65848481
Maybe not singlehandly, but we could still put a good fight.

we, turkey, have relationship with both of them. we are not totally liberal or socialist. ours is kinda mixed of them. after world war 2, we didn't any selection between east or west. actually we have good relationship with usa but most people don't. recently, russia and turkey support each other. i'm turkish and i don't know who i should support. we aren't european but at the same time we aren't asian cuz most western people says ''you are asian'' but most arabic and asian people says ''you look like western. you are not asian.'' for example every turkish people love korea. some people love north some people love south. some people love european union and usa but some people love russia and communism. i don't know my idea. sometimes i wanna fuck usa and their dogs but sometimes i support them.

i know my english sucks. i can't speak well. sorry. forgive my mistakes and poor vocabulary.

>>65848756
You guys are a mix. More eastern influence, though

Well, 30 years ago there was a question. Now there isn't

Poland and the Balts could probably beat Russia.

>>65848096
Stupid question

>>65848216

Russia actually has placed sanctions on us.

They have passed laws preventing some of our politicians from going to Russia.


Like John McCain.

>>65848096
Russia is superior to the U.S. in every way. Please seek refuge there when Erdogan looses his mind.

>>65848520
You honestly could probably drag it out long enough to crash their economy with no survivors and even if it was 1 v 1 you'd be secretly getting weapons and "volunteers"

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>>65848520
>tfw you will never go fight for Poland in a war against Russia

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>>65848333

Russia big

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>>65851689
maybe one day friend, maybe one day

>>65851971
>Mexico challenges the US
and we'll see how tolerant they are of illegal immigration, then

>>65848096

Costa Rica the stronkest US and Russia must unite to crush Costa Rica before Costa kills both.

>>65851515
I don't think so, but it will a good fight.

You're have one problem here. Russian are crazy, Putin are crazy. Russian national TV ALREADY spoke about nuke and USA in one sentences. It's not be a win for anyone.

>>65851615
You're wrong/

>>65852670
>Russian national TV ALREADY spoke about nuke and USA in one sentences.
why? ;_;

>>65848300
Is that why they're doing so well in Syria?

>>65848756
Your English is decent.

The thing is, Turkey is a NATO member and they shot down a Russian fighter.

>>65852670
From what I've seen, heaps of Russians aren't really interested in a Russo-US war and would rather just fix the economy and drink vodka in peace, is all this war talk mainly Putin?

>>65852706
I want to know too. First of all, it was because of Crimea, now it's probably because of Syria. I don't know, I don't understand this people anymore, but I think, that is just for Russians "vatnik", they love listening something like it on TV.

>>65851615
Trump supporter detected.

Russia. They aren't scared of war.

>>65851871
cute
:)

>>65852895
>heaps of Russians aren't really interested in a Russo-US war

You should get off 4chan more often then. Go to 2ch.hk and see what's really said in Russia. Russia is preparing for nuclear war.

>>65852895
Putin don't say this personally, but he control all Russian TV, so...

>>65852670
Are Russian generals crazy?
(Prolly not.)

>>65852895
He and his idiot supporters.

>>65852976
good advise, but russian /po/ have a lot of "close" memes and plenty other shit, like "Putin's internet army"

>>65848756
A friend that wants your clay is always worse than a friend that doesn't want your clay. Russia does not want turkey to succeed.

>>65852976
Yeah, but those are neckbeard neetlords who spend all their time on the internet probably sharing badly shooped videos of Washington DC getting nuked. I'm talking about normies and whether there's an actual significant presence outside of the Russian army and government that actually backs and looks forward to a war with the US.

>>65852990
Yeah, I've heard that before, it'd make it difficult to believe anything from the news or media.

>>65852994
May be, mostly part of them choose Putin on election, it's mean a lot. They don't want war indeed, but sometime i think that they want some revenge.

>>65853180

Independent polling from this week says Russian government has 90% support for war

t. Knower

>>65852994
>Are Russian generals crazy?
Yes, Russians are generally crazy.
:3

lol russia is barely a threat

>>65853354

Go tell that to ISIS

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grow the fuck up. Neither Russia nor the USA will save you from your ignorance. /int/ is a lost fucking cause

>>65848756
Fair enough. I think this could also be said of Russia. It's neither completely European nor is it completely Asian.

>>65853180
>difficult to believe anything from the news or media

and norman people doesn't

>>65853326
Googled and cant seem to find anything, got a source?

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>>65853397

>>65853397
I always thought that turkey are arabs

>>65853397
My great-grandfather's name was Rudolf Kivitar. Other my relatives was from Ukrainian. Why am I Asian?

>>65853274
Perhaps as long as they see him as useful.

>>65853475

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-popularity-envy-other-politicians-174424714--politics.html

>>65853939
Mongol and Tatar rape

>>65853775
why?

>>65853339
Not too much during the Cold War.
No nuclear war then.

Neither. Because you can't see the forest for the trees.

>>65853386
Lots of people are beating up on Islamic State.
(and they deserve it!)

>>65854069
I don't look like asian, and my friends and family don't.
Mostly part of my friends have Finland, Poland, Ukrainian, Greece, Estonian, Latvian and other European countries blood, also I know several Jews. But Asian not so much in my part of country and mostly part is a Koreans, Buryats and Yakuts.

>>65853775
Are they Muslims, isn't?

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>>65854149
>isis

men that don't drink, aren't men

you in way over your head son

>>65853475
A cursory look indicates 82%.

(also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_Vladimir_Putin)

>>65853775
About as different from Arabs as Persians.

>>65848096
Powerful countries, can be wrecked by Vietnam sometimes. So what does powerful country means?

>>65854334
Putin doesn't drink. Yeltsin did.

>>65854090
>>65854317

>>65848411

Chyna.

Maybe turkshit.

Israel is not big enough

Probably Europe together.

>>65852964
Acute
>:)

>>65848411
With what nukes?

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>>65854491
here's to Yeltzin

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>>65854498
Turks are not Arabs, although most are Sunni. In this, they are also different from mainstream (or Wahhabi/Saudi) Islam, as are other non-Arab muslims such as Iranians and other Shia, Bosnians, Albanians, Bulgarians, other Turkics like Kazakhs and Uygurs, Indonesians etc.

Turks are Islamic, but their cultural origins share a more rustic, nomadic, frontier Islam mentality (with Sufi, dervish influence) which is often at odds with "institutionalized Islam". The Ottoman lands were a haven for all manner of non-mainstream Islamic sects which were often not tolerated in other parts of the Islamic world.

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>>65854491
and to chase it down

>>65854622
nigga either learn to hockey or fuck off, this isn't your thread

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>>65854554
You are 3/4ths correct!

Generation X - Kiss Me Deadly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJOA_vLwevA

>>65854649
Any vodka shots?

>>65854664
Huh?

>>65854622
I think that Turkey are Arabs and usual non-european muslims country because of this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca
This is even funny.

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>>65853274
>but sometime i think that they want some revenge
For what?

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Not that I'm shilling for Clinton.

>>65854478
A country that didn't get wrecked by Afghan goat herders.

>>65848411
>I think turkgay, could beat them
you should be eternaly butthurted polak to think that, we had plenty wars with turds, many of it when they were stronger than ever, and we always won. turds can not into the war with white people.

>>65853397
>>65853695
It's like this. Russia is so fucking big that, while St. Petersburg can definitely be considered a European city, Vladivostok sure as hell isn't.

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>>65854917
>tfw this election sucks so bad even the novelty candidates are awful

>>65848756
Subbed :)

>>65854990
How many wars Turkey lost to Russia?

>>65854907
Some people think that cold war and USA it's cause of dead USSR, that they lose the war, lose their country and feel humiliation.

>>65855021
Angry...not humiliated. With thirst of revenge.

>>65854940
>A country that didn't get wrecked by Afghan goat herders.
It definitely not a United States and Britain, because Afgan wrecked them all.

>>65855080
I'm pretty sure Osama Bin Laden is dead though.

>>65855080
We went in with a goal, met the goal, and left. How is that getting wrecked?

>>65855016
13 at least, as I remember.
those battles mean nothing, turds only managed to conquer some balkanlar, with the true europeans they always sucked hard.

>>65855101
He is not even Afganets and doesn't belong to this country. Mostly because Osama is a CIA agent.

>>65855107
USA want to invade and kill all afghans but failed, as an Great Britain.

>>65855021
Also, our government all the time accuses USA and Europe at most part of problem in Russia. There is exist a lot of memes about how Obama ruin our country.

>>65855122
Greetings, my Kazakh bro!

>>65855175
That's just weird how we hate American government and are perfectly cool with average Yankees.

>>65855080
Isn't Afghanistan among the most invaded countries around? Pathetic to see central Asians bowing before Mecca.

>>65855247
That Asscrackistan kicked the living shit out of anyone who invaded it. Including USA & USSR

>>65855184
kazakhs like turks and they are not your bro mate.
I'm of glorious Hohol arian blood.

>>65855291
Afghanistan, like Vietnam, were battlegrounds for American and Soviet proxy wars. Without the CIA, Afghanistan might be like the other 5 Asian ex-SSRs. The US sat in Afghanistan and shat on the Taliban with a fraction of its Iraqi forces until it decided to go home.

>>65855354
Definitely not my bro...just a pile of Hohol shit.

>>65855474
we, hohols, are actualy superior to russians.

>>65855474
Are you one of those skinhead shitheads that infest your country?

>>65855502
Howzat?

>>65855541
realy, I find out that regular hohol isfare more inteligent than russian, often far more succesful, more hardworking, less drinking, more polite and neat. hohol's villages look better than russianvillagesbecause of order and cleanliness. ukranians are pretty nice people comparing to russians.

>>65855502
Reeeely?

>>65851971
>poland in the same tier as japan and us in a global war
no h8 and the poles are gr8, but lmoa how did they reach that prediction

>>65848300
lol no.

>>65854917
Is Jill Stein a gilf/ggilf?

>>65855635
Go chew some pig fat, Ukrainian bendera cock sucking skinhead

>>65848096
Italy literally has a higher GDP than the entire Russian Federation, think about that.

>>65856331
How do we save Rusya?

>>65855749
I'd rather Trump wins if it meant she got +10% and the same for Johnson, and maybe if Trump beat Clinton by less than 0.1%.

>>65856416
Only Russia can save Russia

>>65848096
USA of course
Historically, Russia is always the underdog, current top Western power was always stronger - Sweden, France, Britain, Germany etc were always much wealthier, more powerful and technologically superior when Russia opposed or fought them

When there's a "most powerful empire in the world" that thinks too much of itself, somehow Russia's always there to fuck its shit up, guess it's just what we're supposed to be

>>65855784
Back at ya, Putin supporter.

>>65856490
>When there's a "most powerful empire in the world" that thinks too much of itself, somehow Russia's always there to fuck its shit up, guess it's just what we're supposed to be
P-please don't fuck up America, we're doing that well enough on our own now

>>65856574
In those historical cases, it's usually not Russia that picks a fight. I also think we're not doing it on purpose, things just happen that way on their own

And Russia's not always successful, since Brits won the great game, kinda, though they fucked themselves up in the process and fell apart too

>>65856490
Is that the history of Europe? One country gets uppity and the rest eventually gang up and beat the crap out of it?

>>65856734
Maybe I'm biased, but to me it seems mostly one country gets uppity, scares the brits off to their island and subjigates the continental europe in a laughably short amount of time, then goes to russia, surprisingly gets its ass handed back to it and when Russia's broken its back European swoop in and take the credit.

Not every case, but most of them look like that when you're looking from Russia

>>65848096
The power of Russia in the current time is to play it's cards very smart.

But is Russia really powerful?
I don't think so. Modern Russia is just smart.

>>65856813
Yeah, the USSR took quite a hit. Pity Stalin played nice with that little shit back in 1939-1941; and the purges likely didn't help either.

Hitler also spread himself thin and didn't count on Churchill being an ornery cunt. Britain had it's Channel and those German tanks weren't amphibious.

The Soviets go to war the same year US does--though FDR sent UK lots of supplies.

>>65857005
Modern Russia ain't so smart if Putin is running you. You guys seem to have better government than most European countries.

>>65857384
"is running it." I meant to say. Getting kind of late for me.

>>65857384
>Modern Russia ain't so smart if Putin is running you.
He is running me? We have a better goverment?
The fuck are you trying to tell me?

>>65848096

Russia is more powerful than the rest of the world combined.

t. russian propaganda

>>65857433
t. ivan ivanov

Is that envy I hear in the voices of suckers who got government's with no balls?

>>65848096
The US economy is 16x Russia's

>>65857523
Sure, we russians here.

>>65856475

In that case Russia is doomed.

>>65848300

Both of those are irrelevant in modern world when compared to economic strength.

>>65857580
Nukes are stronger. No one could invade in Pakistan and get away without being nuked.

>>65857580
> taking this post seriously

>>65857433
"He is running me?"
Check the post under it.

"We have a better goverment?
The fuck are you trying to tell me?"

Merkel is running Germany way better than Putin is running Russia.

(Note: "government" is spelled with an "n.")

>>65857616
I honestly still don't get what you are trying to tell me.

You should try to not express yourself like a teenager.

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>>65852895
>Russians aren't really interested in a Russo-US war

It's obvious we don't have a single chance to win a war against half of the world, but at least we could all die with honor. That would be a more preferable way instead of observing how is our country falling apart and our people slowly dying out.

>>65856331

Even Australia has a higher GDP than Russia.
Our economy isn't even in the Top-10 anymore, as you can see we're pretty much fucked.

>>65857612

Tell about how nukes make USA the most powerful instead of their GDP

>>65857611
"Nuke" it's a serious political decision. It's basically end of political career(or life) and political and economical isolatiorn of country.

Why are russians so much friendlier on /int/ than most other cunts

>>65857780
Russians are friendly on /int/ and massive savages in rl.

Poles are massive savages on /int/ but friendly in rl.

Really makes you think.

>>65857760
Just like USA.

>>65857811
It's individual

>>65857760
>>65857780
>>65857811
>>65857842
>>65857871
I like y'all.

>>65857948

Do I have to say "I like you too" in response out of politeness?

>>65857523
Kinda;
and be thankful for that.

That the West doesn't to treat Putin as the P.O.S. he is.

Be a man like Putin to Putin, and then he will give in.

>>65857650
Merkel is governing Germany, that is, she is serving her role, as leader of Germany, in a manner that better insures Germany's well being, than Putin is vis-a-vis Russia's well being.

You see, Germany and Russia have politicians who serve roles as top executives. In Russia, it's Vladimir Putin, in Germany, the person performing this role is Angela Merkel; and what I'm saying is that the later, i.e. Merkel, is performing her role as a executive better than Putin is performing his role as an executive.

Do you need further clarification?

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>>65858731
>Merkel is governing Germany, that is, she is serving her role, as leader of Germany, in a manner that better insures Germany's well being, than Putin is vis-a-vis Russia's well being.

Russians that can write fluent English are probably just more cultured. Probably not excessively so, though. They're on /int/ after all.

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>>65857871
As one person born in Russia put it.

>>65858834
I wonder if Russian women are safer?

But yes, that rabble need to be taught manners.

Pity neo-Nazis will use it as an excuse to attack all refugees.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany)

>>65858934

As for me it's not a very good example of a person born in Russia. She was jewish and spent in the US most of her
conscious life.

>>65859053
and of course Jews are all evil and should be gassed. Z.O.G. and all of that. Lot's of anti-semitism here--and no, I'm no more Jewish than all of you.

Eventually I might check out the great individualists in Russia. I have a fair amount of admiration for Pussy Riot, though I can't find their cover of David Bowie's Rebel Rebel.

>>65859207

Where did i say in my post anything about ZOG or Pussy Riot?

>>65854965
kek, Vladivostok populated with white people, not asians.

is there a single nation on earth that couldn't beat russia?

>>65859668
>Vladivostok populated with white people

Wrong, Vladivostok is populated with Russians.

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>>65859698
Canada

>>65859698
Canada

>>65859340
No where. I figured to catch the ball and run with it.

Your statement implies that by being Jewish, she isn't Russian. Not all Russians are Orthodox.

>>65859698
Most of them, maybe all of them. Nobody wins a nuclear war.

>>65858848
Are there any Russians on /int/ who speak English fluently? We on par with Japanese are the worst English speakers here.

>>65857683
>instead of observing how is our country falling apart and our people slowly dying out
That is exactly what was happening in the 90's and we all agreed to this

>>65860557
I think Id be pretty good but my autocorrect fucks it up for me every tome

>>65860557
/int/ russians aren't hard to understand most of the time tbhfam

>>65860599
Actually if you google some recent statistics, we're best in Eastern Europe demographically, though that isn't saying much

>>65860638
>what was happening in the 90's
>recent statistics
I wasn't talking about recent developments. Yes, we're not dying out already, but mostly thanks to non-Russian minorities and immigration.

>>65860426
>I figured to catch the ball and run with it.

You've caught the wrong ball then.

>Your statement implies that by being Jewish, she isn't Russian.

My statement implies that she's ethnically an ashkenazi jew, and it has nothing to do with her religious beliefs.

>Not all Russians are Orthodox.

Most of the ethnic Russians are atheists actually, although many of them pretend to be orthodox christian.

>>65860668
>mostly thanks to non-Russian minorities and immigration

That's the point. The number of uzbeks and chechens is growing exponentially, but the number of ethnic Russians in Russia at the same time is shrinking the same rapidly as 20 years ago.

>>65860870
We're becoming a nation of immigrants.
>the same rapidly as 20 years ago
Not at the same rate.
>The number of chechens is growing exponentially
Not exponentially, obviously.
Fertility rate is growing in Russian regions and the same as 10 years ago in Caucasus national republics (though still higher).

>>65860792
Ah.

Very well.

I will read the Wikipedia article to verify your claim, but for now, I';ll take it prima faci.

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>>65848096

USA is stronger but Russia will survive.
They just have to wait until white americans become minority.

Russia can destroy Europe in 1 day

>>65848096
Russia is irrelevent

>>65848096

Russia. More nukes, less homosexuals

>>65852706

60% white and rife with degeneracy, nigger president and ruining the world with globalism.

Plenty of good reasons.

Not that we will ever launch.

>>65853939

Ukrainian? No such place. Proxy detected, American muhherittuge!!! faggot detected.