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Dindu nuffin: The country
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>>65822652
What are some of Polish crimes?
I am genuinly asking, I dont know too much about Polish history
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>>65822652

of course i come to find a russian flag. you fucking hemorrhoid.
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>>65822652

Not that it matters, all slavic regions will eventually return to Russia.
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>>65822708
we dindu nuffin
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>>65822708
We persecuted minorities a little bit and we were dicks towards Czechs and Cossacks
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>>65822823
why against Cossacks?
they are badass, the slavic version of cowboy
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>>65822708
Polonization of Lithuania, Belarus and West Ukraine.

AK war crimes ( sadly i'm not this autistic to spam about this here)

afaik hate-crimes against German minorities

And probably more
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>>65822923
>polonization
we never forced anyone to learn polish lmao
>Ukraine
>Belarus
no such thing
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>>65822923
its funny how Poland cries when getting bullied, while they do exactly the same if they have even a bit of power
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>>65822708
>At noon on 30 September, Poland gave an ultimatum to the Czechoslovak government. It demanded the immediate evacuation of Czechoslovak troops and police and gave Prague time until noon the following day. At 11:45 a.m. on 1 October the Czechoslovak foreign ministry called the Polish ambassador in Prague and told him that Poland could have what it wanted. The Polish Army, commanded by General Władysław Bortnowski, annexed an area of 801.5 km2 with a population of 227,399 people.

>The Germans were delighted with this outcome. They were happy to give up a provincial rail centre to Poland; it was a small sacrifice indeed. It spread the blame of the partition of Czechoslovakia, made Poland a seeming accomplice in the process and confused the issue as well as political expectations. Poland was accused of being an accomplice of Nazi Germany – a charge that Warsaw was hard put to deny.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Czechoslovak_border_conflicts

But you will never hear this from a pole's mouth, you only hear bitching to russia, biting the hand that fed them
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>>65822974
axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa stop whining you already know if we have power that we will do the same things as Russia
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>>65822901
because they didn't listen and dragged us into wars with Ottomans.
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>>65822923
>Polonization of Lithuania, Belarus and West Ukraine.
Lithuanian, Ukrainian and Belarusian identity didn't exist at that time.

>hate-crimes against German minorities
rightfuly so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarn%C3%B3w_rail_station_bomb_attack
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>>65822974
dont worry Russianbro, if Poland gets out of hand, the two of us will partition them again
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>>65823160
>Russianbro
>coming from a german
LOL, just admit you're that Russian NEET.
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>>65822652
>not genociding Prussians
>not genociding Russians
>not genociding Ukrainians
>not destroying HRE with France

>dindu nuffin
I think we fucked up too much, you can't call it "nothing".
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>>65823160
Hans have you forgotten how Ivan fucked your mum?
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>>65823208
haha its just banter, you know we are friends now and germany deeply values Polish independance.
But I would appreciate if Poland apologized for its crimes and discrimination in the past. In my opinion, it would be a step in the right direction
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>>65822901
we treated them unequally. We gave soldier's pay to some of them and the ones that weren't treated as soldiers were fucked because they were something between nobility and peasants but had nearly no rights, for example they couldn't own land. This resulted in uprisings and butthurt that lives on in today's Ukrainians.

>>65822923
meh, Polonizaion wasn't brutal it just happened gradually for obvious reasons and It's sill happening. Today when you ask Ukrainian studding in Poland what nationality he is he will reply that he still has Ukrainian citizenship but he wishes to get Polish one and stay in Poland. And keep in mind that right now we are polonizing thousands of your youth.
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>>65823287
>But I would appreciate if Poland apologized for its crimes and discrimination in the past. In my opinion, it would be a step in the right direction
keep memeing
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>>65823320
>we a good boy
>we didn't do nuffin
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>>65823320
I am well aware of German crimes, and we have already apologized for that.
And while Polish crimes were not nearly as big, still, I feel like an apology is in order
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>>65823160
Y-You promise to not backstab us again?
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>>65823358
see >>65823271


I feel ashamed my ancestors weren't as brutal as germans. We would own majority of Europe by now.
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>>65823271
>Implying poland was strong enough to do anything of the things mentioned

Keep dreaming, boy
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>>65823388
it wasnt us, it was austria
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>>65823465
Countless times we had chance to do this.

We trashed you like a pig many times.
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>>65823465
>the country that got raped by Poland all the time until Katrin the second came
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>>65823510
>PLC was a powerful Empire yet it decided to spare Russia and HRE out of pure alturism
I love Polish delusion
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>>65823408
tbf Stalin should have finished the job
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>>65823527
>Katrin the second
which was German.

the only threat to Poland were Germans and Poles themselves. Russians were only tools lmao.
>>65823550
We literally did spare Russia, many times. Not only as Poland-Lithuania, but as Poland as well.

HRE? It was shit anyway. Constantly raped by France.
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>>65823566
Belgium exists only because we did Uprising against Russia and they couldn't send their armies to Netherlands.

say Thank You, ungrateful pig.
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>>65823572
Sure HRE was shitty, but not as shitty as PLC
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>>65823608
>implying they could have done shit against France
I love Polish delusion
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>>65823510
The only time your prince got invited in Moscow to take the throne by some parties in Parliament you backstabbed us and were kicked out by peasants and merchants.

>be polish elite winged hussar
>get stuck in Moscow Kremlin with nothing to eat
>have to eat other polish hussars
>get kicked out by peasants
>later partitioned

Can't make this shit up.
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>>65823632
PLC was one big multi culti shit and still worked unlike HRE
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>>65823632
>>65823653
>>65823658
revisionism, everywhere.

feels good.
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>>65823653
This. I mean, other weak countries accept that they have no history to brag about, meanwhile Poland acts is if they were one of the big boys
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>>65823632
I liked what I read about it, of course I dont know what happened there expect that they were toppled faster than the HRE.

Also the HRE was pretty much a clusterfuck if there was no strong emperor to hold it together, cant deny that.
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>>65823527
>got "raped"
>somehow was still growing in size

Ah yeah, sure
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>>65823699
>>65823632
niggers.

Duchy/Kingdom of Poland was able to kick out HRE. What do you think full time invasion of PLC into HRE would end up like?

Sweden was able to genocide you like animals. We had more army and manpower.
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>>65823669
It didnt, really.
You were kinda able to protect your homeland, but you were really shitty at power projection

>>65823699
Both HRE and PLC were the same shitshow, strong feudal lords and weak elective kings with very little actual power.
That is also the reason why both collapsed, in the end
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>>65823686
Whose country got partitioned?

Surely not mine, Prussian or Austrian.

Seems like you weren't that strong in the end.

Not even mentioning that poland literally was an ally of the mongols.
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>>65823735
as a failure, because polish nobility wouldn't follow the king into HRE
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>>65823781
it was actually a German plot. I admire them for that, it took two centuries.

Russians are too stupid to do anything on their own.
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>>65823735
>>65823699

I said something positive, it is just true that the PLC crumbled faster, you reacting like that just prooves that you run on high octane butthurt.

>Jesus, you want to be nice to Poles and they Kurwa out on you.
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>>65822708

Lithuania.

Now watch the dindu rats act like a Turk when the Armenian Genocide is mentioned.
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>>65823692
We do have some history to brag about, but you wont see me making belgium #1 posts
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>>65823848
>Lithuania.
You're right xD

It shouldn't exist.
>>65823846
Comparing PLC to HRE is stupid in the base of it.

They were different in every aspect.
>>65823868
Comapring to our history?

Nothing. It comes from Westerners trying to constantly shit on us.

It's a defense mechanism.
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>>65823806
We were still smart enough to occasionally kick your and Prussian asses.

Accept it. You were nothing serious. You couldn't defeat Russia when you had more wealth and manpower despite trying.

Oh also, you actually offered polish crown to Ivan the Terrible and he refused.

So much for your pride.
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>>65823868
Not him, but Belgium is Frankish core land after all, so thats breddy gudd.

What did the Belgians do that was impressive?

Except for chopping of Hands, I have to admit I dont know shit.
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>>65823846
You reap what your grandfathers sow. Sorry to say that.
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>>65823891
I didnt compare them, I just said that it crumbled faster than the HRE....
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>>65823658
>Be Russian Bojars
>"Dear Stanisław You can became Tsar of Russia, but you need to convert to orthodox first"
>"Never, In front of God, pure in intentions, with neither regrets nor remorse calls, I've stood and I will remain staying next to values of my fathers religion"
>But muh Great Empire
>Fuck off
We have literally rejected your proposition of rulling Russia. Let's just pretend it wasn't stupid, can you imagine how based we were?
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>>65823901
>Accept it. You were nothing serious. You couldn't defeat Russia when you had more wealth and manpower despite trying.
Majority of battles were won by us.
The only time Russia stands a chance is when you have German buttbudies or Poalnd is in turmoil.

>Oh also, you actually offered polish crown to Ivan the Terrible and he refused.
Russians didn't even have national identity, you will be all Polacks in matter of centuries.
>>65823946
It did.

Because we didn't push into you. Your only enemy was France and occasionally Sweden. Polish-Imperial border was the most stable one in the entire history.
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>>65823912
Fuck you then, I refuse to accept hereditary guilt.

Arsehole.
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>>65823909
"Belgium" not that much, but medieval Flanders was extremely rich
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why cant poles accept that they were a local power in late medieval period, but they were nothing compared to prussia (and later germany) or russia, who were world powers
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>>65823290
fewer people more oxygen
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>>65824024
Heh, you just said you want Pommern und Schlechsien back.

Fuck you too. Especially after what you did to Belgium only a century ago and only to kick ass of muh French teh Archenemy.
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>>65823964
He first accepted the crown though. Then he said he won't convert, lying bastard, like all Poles are.
>>65823993

You could only attack us when we either fought steppe nomads, had civil wars or in coalition with others.

Still lost though.

>>65823993

We got national identities in the same time.
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>>65824162
not him but literally nobody in germany cares about lost clay anymore. we dont live in the past
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>>65824154
Hi where the frogs at? :DDD
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>>65824186
>We got national identities in the same time.
Bullshit.

Russia didn't exist in 1000AD
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>>65824124
>why cant poles accept that they were a local power in late medieval period, but they were nothing compared to prussia (and later germany) or russia, who were world powers
Because that's not true at all.
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>>65823735
Sweden genocided poles as well
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>>65824469
how os it not true?
when europe had its period of glory, poland didnt even exist as a country
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>>65824426
The official birth date of Rus is 862, retard.

And it was there for much longer.
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>>65824223
Well, maybe it''s my Lwów complex together with Soviet agit-prop speaking through my mouth. Anyway, the harsh reality is, you will be a bit mistrusted eastwards from Oder no matter what, at least until our generation is alive and kicking.
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>>65824539
Your country more or less begins with Daniel I in 1283.
Kievan Rus' and the missions in Moravia are a vastly different story from Muscovy.
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>>65824539
As?
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>>65824590
"Kievan Rus" is a term invented by russian historian.

>The term "Kievan Rus'" (Ки́eвcкaя Pycь Kievskaya Rus’) was coined in the 19th century in Russian historiography to refer to the period when the centre was in Kiev. In English, the term was introduced in the early 20th century, when it was found in the 1913 English translation of Vasily Klyuchevsky's A History of Russia,

The first official mentioned ruler is prince oleg.

He as from NOVGOROD and he conquered Kiev and just moved the capital there.

Do you know where Novgorod is?
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Why are Rushins (and slavs in general) constitutionally incapable of using prepositions?

THE.

A.

Lets get to work incorporating these into our English vocab, people
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>>65824729
And Muscovy is a term propagated to the west by the PLC, I don't think it changes much. Our country probably wasn't called Poland from the beginning either.

Fact is, modern Russia has more to do with Moscow and then St. Petersburg than Kiev.
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>>65824838
I suspect mastering those would rewire my brain into something unpleasant. howaboutno.gif
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>>65824838
Because they literally serve no purpose in communication.
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Poles did many bad things to us..
Kinda sad considering that they were one of our best allies..
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>>65825126
>anschlussed
not once but twice
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>>65825126
You''re virtually just Polish Ireland now, and your capital is in fucking Belfast, what do you want more?
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>>65822823
>We persecuted minorities
We didn't. If you are thinking about II RP, repressions were reprisal for rebels and chimpouts performed by hohol terrorists. Official statement of League of Nations was that minorities' situation in Poland was fine.

>we were dicks towards Czechs
We weren't? Did you even learn history, idiot? It's them who were dicks towards us blocking weapon supplies and stealing our territory (Zaolzie) when we were busy fighting communist scum in the East saving not only ourselves but also indirectly them. Several years later we took Zaolzie back the same backstabbing way as they did.
Pic rel Polish civilians slaughtered by Czech savages in Polish Zaolzie.

>and Cossacks
Literally what? They were subhuman barbarians who consisted mainly of criminals and fugitives disloyal to the Crown. They were pillaging, raping and burning everything around including Ottoman territory causing deterioration of relations and wars between PLC and Ottomans. Cossacs deserved to be hanged and impaled, every one of them.

>>65822923
>Polonization of Lithuania
No such thing happened. Lithuanian nobles converted to Polish culture and language on their own free will. Nobody forced them to anything.

>Belarus and West Ukraine
No such things existed at that time. They were catholic Poles until partitions when ruskie filth russified, converted them to orhodoxy and convinced that they are not Poles.

>AK war crimes ( sadly i'm not this autistic to spam about this here)
Kys you fuckin retard. AK killed around 2000 hohols as a self-defence and retaliation during Wołyń massacre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia#Self-defence_organizations

>afaik hate-crimes against German minorities
Source or gtfo with your goebbels propaganda, german cocksucking scum.
As I wrote League of Nations stated that situation of minorities in Poland was alright.
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>>65822974
Great cherrypicking and manipulation kacapie. Read the entire fucking article and gtfo.
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>>65824186
>He first accepted the crown though. Then he said he won't convert, lying bastard, like all Poles are
my bad, it wasn't meant to make any harm, plz don't be angry
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>>65825391
blah blah blah we dindu nuffin the post
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>>65823550
>out of pure alturism
More like due to stupidity of our rulers. The rest is correct.
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>>65822972
lets not forget that pooland annexed a part of Czechoslovakia after Germany lost WWI. pooland is literally the hyena of Europe.
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>>65822974
Wow I had no clue that Poland was that bloodthirsty.
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>>65824539
>Rus = Russia
best meme

If you count Rus as part of russian history then history of Poland starts in 6th century because this is when founder of Poland Lekhus I lived.
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>>65826008
Nonsense, our history begins with Sarmatians in ancient times.
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>>65826008
>>65826033
>the last scythian king
>Palacus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palacus
makes me think
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>>65825391
>No such thing happened.


>In 1920, after the staged mutiny of Lucjan Żeligowski, Lithuanian cultural activities in Polish controlled territories were limited and the closure of Lithuanian newspapers and the arrest of their editors occurred.[87] One of them – Mykolas Biržiška was accused of state treason and sentenced to the death penalty and only the direct intervention by the League of Nations saved him from being executed. He was one of 32 Lithuanian and Belarusian cultural activists formally expelled from Vilnius on 20 September 1922 and deported to Lithuania.[87] In 1927, as tensions between Lithuania and Poland increased, 48 additional Lithuanian schools were closed and another 11 Lithuanian activists were deported.[84] Following Piłsudski's death in 1935, the Lithuanian minority in Poland again became an object of Polonisation policies with greater intensity. 266 Lithuanian schools were closed after 1936 and almost all Lithuanian organizations were banned. Further Polonisation ensued as the government encouraged settlement of Polish army veterans in the disputed regions.[86] About 400 Lithuanian reading rooms and libraries were closed in Poland between 1936 and 1938.

>When Poland annexed the town of Sejny and its surroundings back in 1919, repressions towards the local Lithuanian population started, including the Lithuanian language being banned in public, Lithuanian organizations (with 1300 members), schools (with approx. 300 pupils) and press being closed, as well as the confiscation of property and even burning of Lithuanian books.

WE DINDU NUFFIN
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>>65825679
very good argument you have over there. almost made me think
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>>65822708
They helped Hitler partition czechoslovakia.

To be fair, they had some relatively legit claim to the land though.

I'm kinda concerned about polish historical revisionism their present government seems in favour of doing. They seem to act almost like Russia that way. Speaking of which...

>>65822652
Aren't you a bit ashamed of all the shit your country has done and now pretends it never happened? You literally renamed world war 2 into a "great patriotic war" so that you don't have to remember that soviet union was an aggressor in it. Or against Finland.
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>>65822652
We dindu much, especially in comparison to you.
>>65822923
>Lithuania, Belarus and West Ukraine.
*Lithuania, neither Belarus nor Ukraine was a thing back then, you dumbass. They were a part of old Lithuania, nothing more.
>Ukrainian talking about war crimes
I hope you are aware of the irony, banderite shit.
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>>65826033
this, Szyfaute is right. Polish history starts when Sarmatians divided from scythian empire and start their march into west. We are direct descendants of that tribes and local balto-slavic womes. Polish coat of arms aren't white eagel on the red sun, but Żar-ptak in the flames. Żar-ptak is slavic version of Phoenix, therefore Poland is Eternal and if we get partitioned again Poland will reborn.
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>>65826033
Bullshit. Polish-Sarmatian connections have been disproved by genetics.
We have nothing to do with Sarmatians who were Iranic people, in contrast we are descendants of local central european population.
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>>65826228
For example, they vandalise memorials for ethnic germans...or even silesians who only spoke polish...who were herded into concentration camps for revenge killings.

Sort of understandable, but still rather nasty.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/1376828/Polish-man-accused-of-war-crimes-against-the-Germans.html
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>>65826388
I like where this thread is going.
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>>65826388

>>65826420
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>>65826420
t. Germano-Judeo-Balto-Magyaro-Turko-Cigany rapebaby
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>>65826131
Maybe we were dicks to you, but that doesn't come even remotly close to Germs, Ruskies and Ukrainians as some retards are trying to imply in this thread.
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>>65826426
There were incidents in Czechia as well after the war, especially around the expulsion of ethnic germans.

I agree, understandable perhaps, considering the times and moods, but nothing to be proud of.
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>>65826518
The point isn't if we were dicks or genocidal maniacs. The point here is whether we dindu nuffin or not.

And we dindu nuffin
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>>65826131
>>65826228
Yes it is true, all bad actions Poland had ever done to other nations were made by 1 man - Józef Piłsudski. I think it is not a coincidence that he was Hitler's best friend. But to be clear he was lithuanian who consider himself as pole. He was great Hetman and Strategist, but bad person. I feel sorry for you guys.

Our waifu hate us...

But we dindu nuffin anything else.
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We wuz good country we dindu nuffin now gib more euros for dem programs
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>>65826550
I think worse is how some poles started to go for the jews that survived the concentration camps in bona fide progroms.

At least the dutchies only hcarged them for the rent they missed on paying while they were gone.
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>>65826596
Come on, we're one big happy family now.

More or less. In any case, don't be sad.
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>>65826596
He shouldnt have died, then you would hopefully have joined the axis...probably lost with us but not be butthurt at us.

I take extra friends where I can get them.
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>>65826228
You'd be surprised how the supporters of current govt resemble Putin diehard cocksuckers.

>muh Kaczyński, the natural born political genius
>almost the Sun of the Nation

>>65826426
I'm not going to defend this shit. Memorials should be honoured, period. And the postwar treatment of Silesians was *akhem*.
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>>65826694
I'm actually happy with the real flow of history.
I've been to Russia, I've been to Ukraine, both are orders of magnitude poorer and have insane class division that we lack whatsoever. It's satisfying.

And we didnu nuffin
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>>65826596
>born in Poland, near Wilno
>spoke Polish
>considered himself a Pole
>But to be clear he was lithuanian
you wot
>>65826420
>Polish-Sarmatian connections have been disproved by genetics.
>t. Russian proxy
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>>65826420
>M458
Nice meme, but what about other 2 types?
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>>65826809
At the time he was born there was no Poland. He also spoke Lithuanian. Also both sides of his family were from Samogitian nobility.
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>>65826757
Somehow proves that the Poles made the right decision to get closer to the west, particularily the EU.

Even if one dislikes the EU, it helped Poland or Ireland a shit ton.
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>>65826131
>betray and then genocide Poles in Sejny and other places
>be suprised that Poles take their revenge
OOGA BOOGA WE DINDU NUFFIN IT'S THOSE LENKS!!!1!!111

Lmaoing at all of you fuckin ż*mudzins.
We shoud have left you to teutonic doom back in the middle ages.
The only thing we ever did wrong was being too nice for everybody and not finishing off our enemies.
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>>65826703
Thanks, Pole-Man.

I just hope we all get less bad blood between us so we dont have to have a go at each other rwanda stile anymore.
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>>65826420
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>>65826939
It did. Imbecils here travel to the west instead of the east, and that clouds their judgement.

I support the EU, but I want us to have more influence on ideology. The European ideal of free movement within EU borders is beautiful and I support it, but instead of that, western countries allow people from outside the EU, which should be heavily frown upon, not supported. I want Polish intellectuals to make westerners realise this.
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>>65823848
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>>65826958
>betray and then genocide Poles in Sejny

Things that never happened. Also I don't know if it's always you or other Poles but you have a weird definition for word "betray". How did we betray you? That we didn't want any union or anything to do with you after you attacked and took our capital city?
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>>65826809
You have no clue about genetics so stop posting maps you don't understand, please
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>>65826874
>>65827006
None of these subclades is Sarmatian/Scythian.
Stop talking about things you don't understand.
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>>65827066
Not all of us think this way
I take your point of view about this conflict.
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>>65827022
I am with you on this, accepting refugees is sort of ok if it is not guaranteed to also affect a ton of people who are just here as economic migrants by posing as syrians.

Also we need to be more secure in our own identity and more proud of it, bavarians integrate their brown people quite well because people see that they respect their culture and country.

Why should any foreigner respect us if we do not do it ourself?

>Inb4 muh "There is no german identity!"
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I am literally half polish and half lithuanian.

Pretty kek desu. Luckily I inherited some of those dank Slav math genes
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>>65827176
As long as you're not arrogant, it's alright to be proud to be German. But of course, nowadays it's good to ask yourself what German identity is exactly... You do have an identity, but what is it?
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>>65827006
>>65826874

>>65826420
>t. faggot who's name doesn't end with -ski, descendant of scythian peasants
Kys
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>>65822781
1612
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>>65827340
>his name doesn't end with -sztajn
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>>65827216
>half Polish and half Lithuanian

STOP THIS UNION OR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW

IT TRIGGERS ZHMUDZINS
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>>65827370
The only one triggered here is you.

Pzsczsek
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>>65827066
>pogrom of Polish civilians in Sejny in 1919 never happened
Yes, yes you dindu nuffin, keep telling yourself that

>How did we betray you?
Allying with Soviets.
Funnily enough you soon paid very high price for it.

Pic rel another thing that never happened.
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>>65822652
i m sure russian occupation is no joke but i dont get why polacks whine so much.
unlike us and turks, russians actually gave you one the richest region in europe (silesia), pomerania and half of prussia, all of which was rightful german clay. and they took some belarussian marches and lviv.
polacks are worse than serbs in butthurt.
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>>65827340

>>65827077
>>65827128
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>>65827340
Scythians look like bearded Poles.
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>>65827407
delet
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>>65827316
I think its rather easy, if you are german citizen and identify as german you sort of are.

But if you say you are a turk or pole first...well..no thank you.

Also, some people are more german than others.

Ethnic germans, for example.

How can politicians talk about our history, all that land of poets and thinkers crap and then stutter around when asked what being german is.

If german identity is just a social construct, then we dont need to guilt trip ourselves for nazi crimes..or prussian crimes.

After all, its just a flimsy idea.

>Sort of mad.
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>>65827472
Distribution of M417 looks pretty Scythian to me.
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>>65827407
I zachrzęścił chrząszczyk żmudziński.
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Jesus christ this is embarrassing, only Poles could take the bait this hard.
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Does it upset you that an alpha Lithuanian pumped his sperm into a fem pole?
>>65827370
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>>65826228
>They helped Hitler partition czechoslovakia.

>>65825391
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Polish Internet defense force out in force today
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>>65827529
It doesn't matter what something looks to you like. The facts are that Sarmatian/Scythian subbranch of R1a is Z93 and this one is almost non-existent in Poland.
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>>65827700
I think we have quit a lot of reasonable poles here today.

This is nothing compared to the shit I have seen.
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>>65827429
You talked about sejny no genocides happened in Sejny, about Ponary it was commited by German SS and "Ypatingasis burys" a unit which never exceeded 100 people and it included Lithuanians/Poles/Russians.

>Allying with Soviets.
Except we didn't. You seem to have weird definition for alliance too.

It was a peace treaty and Soviets acknowledged Vilnius region to Lithuania which you know belonged to Lithuania since it's creation.


Speaking of betrayal or this meme that Poles only wanted Wilno.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_Polish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt_in_Lithuania

In 1919 Poles tried to overthrow government.

And later.

>On November 17, the mutineers began a major attack. They planned to capture Kaunas, thus threatening Lithuanian independence,[119] by encircling the city from north through Širvintos–Ukmergė–Jonava and Giedraičiai–Kavarskas–Kėdainiai.[115] Żeligowski's forces were about three times larger: 15 Polish battalions against 5 Lithuanian battalions.[120] One cavalry brigade managed to break through the Lithuanian defense lines near Dubingiai, reached Kavarskas, and continued towards Kėdainiai.[115] However, Lithuanians were successful in stopping an attack towards Ukmergė near Širvintos on November 19. About 200 Lithuanians maneuvered through swamps to the rear of three Polish battalions.[121] Attacked from the front and rear, some 200 Poles were taken prisoner while others retreated.[122] The Lithuanians continued to attack and captured Giedraičiai on November 21. On the same day, a ceasefire was signed under pressure from the League of Nations.
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>>65827825
Who would be the closest related to scythians?

I am confused by these words and letters.

I see the pre scythian branch, but its still confusing.
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>>65827433
>rightful german clay.
Cuck. We were fighiting for literally Serbian clay. East Germany are rightful white serbians clay, therefore yours. Poles are Serbians in Greater Poland and Croatians in Lesser Poland. 2 tribes living there serbian Polans and croatian Vistulans united to create first polish state.
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>>65827646
Seriously? No. I'm not that mad to take all the national bullshit 100% seriously. One bottle of vodka is enough, I don't have to drink three of them at a time to prove anything.

Memeing? Lithuanians act somewhat like spoiled kids, who got everything they wanted but still cry they haven't had it served on a silver plate. Also they are pretty skilled basketball players so I suppose it was equivalent of BBC for her or something. You nig- I'm sorry, I don't even know how to call you.
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>>65823281
Ivan fucked his maternal grandmum, conceiving his mum
She came out with sexy slav girl genes
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Good thread my fellow Vandals.
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>>65827990
Germanic-speakers were not the original IE inhabitants of territory which is now Poland, they came during middle-to-late Iron Age as immigrants or invaders and in relatively small numbers.

There is a biological population continuity in Poland since the Bronze Age until nowadays - neither Germanic immigration nor Slavic immigration altered it considerably.

Language & culture of population of Poland were changing few times, but population - in its main core (not counting quite numerous admixtures from migrating peoples) - is similar as in times of Biskupin-builders:

http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~anthro/pdf/mono/vol012/01piontek.pdf
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>>65828027
Even today people in eastern Germany and in Austria have a lot of R1a haplogroup, which was most common among Medieval West Slavs.

Also I2a haplogroup is very typical for Slavic populations. Of course it would be a mistake to associate haplogroups with ethnicities, but are there are certain statistical correlations, which allow us to arrive at certain conclusions and generalizations concerning their origins.

Also Slavic surnames are common in Germany - some of them are Polish in origin but some are from other Slavic groups.

For example here is surname "Janke", distribution of which indicates that it is Obotrite-Veleti rather than Polish, Pomeranian or Sorbian:
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>>65827825
Are you sure?
There are several Polish/Russian Z93's here:
https://yfull.com/tree/R-Z93/

> Z93 and this one is almost non-existent in Poland.
What's the proportion?
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>>65828069
Comparison of R1a and R1b haplogroups among people in various German, Austrian, Czech and Polish cities today:

Map shows modern-day R1b / R1a proportions among inhabitants of 25 selected cities located in Central Europe:

Dark green = Polish and Czech cities
Light green = German & Austrian cities with ~20% (Greifswald) up to ~43% (Graz) of R1a
Dark red = other cities in Germany

What can be observed is that former Slavic areas in Germany & Austria correlate with high % of people with R1a haplogroup:
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>>65827911
>Who would be the closest related to scythians?
Y-DNA wise? Peoples who are under Z93 in R1a tree. You have mentioned them there: Levites, Kirgiz, Karachays, Tatars, Bashkirs, some Indians and Arabs
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No bullying Poland, they were the poor little victims always, dey wuz good boys.
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>>65828111
Graz in Early Middle Ages was a Slavic city (burgh) of the Principality of Carantania, which was called Gradec (in Old Slovene language). Graz has so high percent of people with R1a haplogroup, that it is obvious that they are mostly descendats of Germanized Slovenes (Carantanians).

Note that German-speaking Austrian inhabitants of Graz have a higher % of R1a than ethnic Slovenes of Slovenia.

According to our website, 38% of Slovenes from Slovenia have R1a haplogroup, while 43% of Austrians from Graz have it:

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
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>>65828122
Thanks.
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Daily reminder for all that the founders of Russia (Rurikids) and the most famous Polish dynasty, Jagiellonians (shoot off of Gediminids) were Finnish (N1 patrilineage).
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>>65828071
>What's the proportion?

>>65827006
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>>65828142
>he thinks R1a is a slavic only haplogroup

>>65828179
>ancient finns
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WE
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>>65828122
>>65828153

What's the evidence for this?
https://yfull.com/tree/R-Z93/
^- mostly Indians/Punjabis here with some Poles, Russians and assorted Europeans here.
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>>65827990
>>65828069
>>65828111
>>65828142
I short:

Poles live in the same spot since Bronze Age, which means that Germanics owning this land is a German fairytale from XIX century, that would also mean that Vandals and Goths might have been Polish ancestors. Which would also indicate Scandinavian-Polish connection.

Suck on my dick, kraut faggots. Thank god for archeology and genetic research.
>>65828221
Specific subclade is.
This one. Pic related.
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>>65828221
>Spot the buttblasted R1a carrier
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>>65827990

So, according to this theory, Proto-Slavs were already in Poland when Goths and Vandals migrated there from Scandinavia. Then most Goths and Vandals fucked off during the migration period. How does that make Vandals proto-Poles?
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>>65827825
I pomyśleć że to szyfaute hest żydem, a broni naszych korzeni, a zwykły polaczek pluje na własną spuściznę. Takie kurwy jak ty to bym wymienił na muzułmanów z uśmiechem na ustach. A twój cały dobytek oddał polskim Żydom, bo to 100% takie lurwy jak ty były tymi chorymi pojebami co Synów Mojżesza paliły w stodołach w Kieleckim. Tfu!

Spostuj zdjęcie dowodu z timestampem tak żeby było widać na jakie literki kończy się twoje nazwisko Psie. Rozmowa nie ma sensu jeśli nie będzie to -ski ewentualnie -ska.
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>>65828179
>Dumbr
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>>65828221
>R1a
Spotted the Balto-Slavic plumber expat
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>>65828273
>How does that make Vandals proto-Poles?
R1a.

Vandals never left entirely and they came back to Poland after their failure in Africa.

Read Gregory of Tours.
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>>65828259
>>65828312
>they think I'm a slav
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>>65828381
>R1a
>Not Slav
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>>65828179
>the finnish empire is not a meme
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>>65828448
Finnish empire is a meme, but Finnic history was a set of lies agreed upon like ours.

Germans trashed our nationalism and faked our history for centuries. Swedes did that to the Finns.
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>>65828425
Who says I'm r1a?
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>>65828486
Polebro gets it
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>>65828486
(((Christianity))) in general erased the history of the indigenous peoples.

t. Varg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWiXECm0M5g
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>>65827850
Thats pretty shitty of them.

And then they pretend as if they had no imperial ambitions like everyone had.
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>>65828538
Varg is "we wuzing" too much but he has right idea about vatican and christianity.

And of course he should consider that Germans were the biggest dogs of Vatican, they burned and destroyed pagan cultures of many peoples in Europe, often genociding the whole "nations".
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>>65828179
>N1c
>Finnish

>Varangians
>Finnish

>>65828221
>he thinks R1a is a slavic only haplogroup
R1a as a whole is not exclusively Slavic but there are Slavic-only subclades of it: M458 and Z283
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we din do nuffin
them racis lithuaayians tryin to keep us down
t. pole in Lithuania
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>>65828694
What were Varangians if not Finns? They hailed from a Finnic area in Sweden.
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>>65827022
This is classic polish hypocrisy, why should we allow free movement within the EU but no outside the EU? What makes it 'beautiful'?
I'm not arguing for letting anyone in, but why should we allow poles to stay wherever they want
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>>65828320

>R1a

Elaborate.


Vandals (and Goths) were Germanics who migrated from Scandinavia to Poland. According to you, Proto-Slavs lived there before Germanics went to Poland, and those proto-Slavs would be the main ancestors of modern Poles, not Germanics.
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>>65828707
Nigga, your """nation"""" literally has 2 milion people.

If we wanted it, it would take only one Polish protein fart towards Wilno and you would capitulate. lmao

Can't wait till the Russkies invade pribaltika and you will cry like a bitch.
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>>65822823
welp it`s not like cossacks weren`t cunts towards the "lech" in return tho. Just remember Gajdamaky
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>>65828273
He's a jew, don't listen to him until he posts his ID with last letters of his surname. We cannot trust him.

In wielkopolska chronicles it is written that we came to Poland from Panonia - which is place where Sarmatians lived.
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>>65828790
Germanics /=/ Germans
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>>65828794
but I'm a pole lmao
save me daddy
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>>65822923
first tima I see another Ukrainian in an /int/ thread.
But usually I`d hang around in /polska/ so...
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>>65828830
>jew
Now you fucking insulted me you homo.

I am Saxon.
>>65828853
nigga fuck off lmao

poles in lithuania are polonized russians
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>>65828275
Jak już tak kozaczysz to chociaż wiedz, że -ski to nie jedyna polska szlachecka końcówka. Są jeszcze:
-zki
-cki
-dzki
i kilka innych.
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>>65828834

Where did I say that?
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>>65828878
but my name is virvičius :-DDD
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Why do Poles and Lithuanians hate each other so? I imagined that they wouldn't have any animosity towards each other given their past unions and that they'd have a warm relationship similar to that of Hungarians and Austrians.
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>>65828944
It's tough to say "which" ones were ancestors of modern Poles. Maybe all of them?

Germans are blanda up of Western Slavs, Celts and Scandinavians.

Poles are blanda up of: Native Bronze age Polish population and Scandinavian Germanics which carried R1a too. - Which would actually make sense.
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>>65828956
And it should be Indyk. Witold Indyk.

>Vytautas Kalakutas
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>>65829029
Interwar Poland was extremely dickish towards Lithuania.
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>>65828613
Hey, we got also shat on by christianity :<
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>>65825391

>There are more serious things still in the Ukrainian part of Poland. Therefore, they are in a high degree a British concern. In the East Galician part of Poland, in the period between the end of the War and 1928, the primary schools were reduced in number by about two-thirds—from 2,400 down to 745. In Universities, where under Austrian rule the Ukrainians had eleven professorships, they have now none, whereas they were promised a University of their own in 1922 by the Polish Government.

>In the part of Polish Ukrainia which was formerly in Russia, in Volynia, the conditions are harsher still. There is a harsh system of colonisation by ex-soldiers and these men—armed and not averse to lawlessness—persecute their neighbours in a highly regrettable manner. There is a system of suppression of the co-operative stores which are a feature of Ukrainian farming, and all this, I suppose, is part of the policy of keeping the peasants uninformed and disunited. There is also throughout the Ukraine a system of police certificates for anyone requiring a licence of any kind, which leads to a general system of police persecution. An unfavourable report by the police naturally settles the fate of a schoolmaster who does not curry favour with them. You cannot ignore in this connection one especially deplorable matter—that is the torture of prisoners in the prisons and of suspects who have incurred the disfavour of the Polish authorities. I regret that the evidence is convincing that mediæval torture is practised in these cases.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1932/jun/15/protection-of-national-minorities
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>>65829029
As far as I understand, Lithuanians hate Poles because they were opressed in PLC
Poles hate Lithuanians because the latter arent "grateful" for having the chance of beeing ruled by Poles
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>>65829029
It's a long story of poland thinking that lithuanians are theirs
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>>65829127
I know.

But then you kinda accepted it and started crusading everyone around you.


Fucking Otto, Henry the Fowler and Barbarossa.
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>>65829033
Who were the original inhabitants of germany then?

Also I am unsure if we should call the original settlers of poland "polish".

Basques seem to be the only ones in europe who an make that claim of continous population of certain regions.
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>>65829138
As far as I understand you're caught by the gears of what we call here 'the historical politics'. Get out of there now, or the gears will crush you.
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>>65829223
>Who were the original inhabitants of germany then?

Western and Southern Germany: Celts
Eastern and Northern: Western """"Slavs"""
Then came Scandinavians and became a rulling class there, they brought language with them.

I wouldn't call them Polish either. What matters is that there is a genetic continuity and German racist theory from XIX century is not nice for us. You know, with ukrainian swamps and 6AD.
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>>65829134

> I will remind your Lordships of its nature by reading the words of a distinguished lawyer who has served the Crown in the Colonies, Sir Walter Napier, who wrote as follows: The villagers' leaders were rounded up, driven into some barn, stripped, held down and beaten with the thick sticks used for threshing. Doctors were forbidden to go from the towns to the villages, and peasants attempting to come to the towns for treatment were turned back by the police. It is very repugnant to criticise a friendly State, but nothing is gained, as has been shown by discussion at the Council, by ignoring breaches of Treaties when those breaches are remediable. We must not forget that Poland has a very special cause to observe these Treaties because the annexations granted her were granted on condition that she gave autonomy to these very districts.

> But the policy of Poland, we must admit, has, up to now, in this matter been injurious to herself. The case of the German population is a very urgent matter. From the corridor and from Posen no fewer than a million Germans have already left the country since the annexation owing to conditions which they find intolerable. The dependence of any person requiring a, licence for a public position on the favour of local authorities is used to get rid of large sections of the people. Colonisation, which is the subject of discussion by the Council even to-day, is used to discriminate against minorities. The schools exhibit a figure which your Lordships will find it difficult to credit. Forty-five per cent. of the German children in Thorn and in Posen have been deprived of schools and driven to Polish schools. There has been a reduction of 50 per cent. in the actual number of schools. That is a direct infraction of the clause of the Treaty with Poland which lays it down that: Poland will provide…that in the primary schools the instruction shall be given to the children…through the medium of their own language.
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>>65828790
Originally area of modern Poland was inhabited by genetically Slavic-like peoples. Let's call them Proto-Poles. Later at some point nordic invasion from the north took place. Those germanics (Goths and Vandals) mixed with indigenous Proto-Polish population giving birth to modern Poles.
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>>65829356
Hey, I like us being related.

We talked about this before.
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>>65829326
i take the risk, as long as i get many (you)s
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>>65828936
Jedyna właściwa psie.
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>>65823868
>We do have some history to brag about
kek
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>>65829033
>Maybe all of them?

Of course, but that makes saying vandals=proto-poles quite a reduction. Nobody would say that visi-goths are proto-spaniards, even though modern spaniards are partially descended from them.
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>>65829460
Yeah, I think I remember it.

I'm not trying to rob Germans from their history, like the Prussians tried with us. I'm trying to find where Poland and "Poles" actually fit in there.

No hard feelings.
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>>65829356
Too bad that's not true at all, the original inhabitants were I1 and I2, then later on came R1a during the corded ware expansion and after that came the R1b with the Unetice culture expansion
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>>65829198
We only consider real Lithuanians (i.e Belarusians) as ours. As to Żmudzins, we never thought that you have anything to do with us.
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>>65824838
they are useless and we don't care
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>>65829584
I'm going too far with this one, I know. :P
It's unfair that Germans can claim all Germanics to themselves though and we're left with with XIX century bullshit about Ukrainian Swamps.
>>65829610
So the Celts were the last to expand into "Germany" ?
They pretty much assimilated then?
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>>65829683
we dont claim it all for ourselves
we are quiet happy to share the acchievements of the germanic people with the dutch and with our nordic brothers
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>>65829750
>we are quiet happy to share the acchievements of the germanic people with the dutch and with our nordic brothers
aka Teutonic Race meme XIX century, here we come again.

ehhh....
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>>65829480
Then keep defending Lithuanians, but this time in the most offensive way. Gonna get'em all.
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>>65825897
>lets not forget that pooland annexed a part of Czechoslovakia after Germany lost WWI
It was the opposite, Czechoslovakia annexed Śląsk Cieszyński when we were busy fighting in the Polish-Soviet war
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>>65829812
I am just saying, its funny how you whine about Russians and Germans opressing you, while you did the same to Lithuanians
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>>65829683
R1b isn't celtic, just like R1a isn't slavic, those are just names that people with only a superficial knowledge of the subject add to them (certain subclades are predominantly slavic or celtic etc. but at that point in time, definitely not). The Unetice cultures "homeland" was in modern day czech republic, and is classifies as "proto-italo-celto-germanic" since it appears somewhat equally in all those cultural groups.
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>>65829610
Of course, but it's not the time frame we are talking about. I'm sure by "original" he didn't mean "the first ever".
BTW actually no haplogroup is "native" to Europe because all of them came here from the Middle East at some point.
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>>65829394
>>65829134

kek, innocent Poles.
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>>65825897
>pooland is literally the hyena of Europe.
t. fat anglo inbred alcoholic nigger aka Churchill

hey, let's set Germany and Poland against each other so we can get French time to prepare :DDDD

BEBIN YOU FUCKING ANGLO SCUM.
>>65829896
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtiberians

Nigga, look at Spain and France
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>>65829827
Oh boy, here we go again.

There was a railroad. One of two (2) railroads linkng Czechia and Slovakia.

Czechs took it, because they needed it and this was barely okay, but okay.

We took it, because Germans made Slovakia their puppet and this was barely okay, but okay.

Slovakia invaded us together with Germany. This wasn't okay, but hey, we all make mistakes.

Now you quarrel about this and this is NOT okay, because there is nothing to quarrel about.

Move along.
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>>65829593
Thanks,man.

But according to those texts
>>65829394
and the guy refusing to accept that there was a belarussian/ukrainian identity...

Apparently identity stealing is popular.
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>>65829935
> I'm sure by "original" he didn't mean "the first ever".
then what the hell does he mean? Also the language claim is wrong, scandis didn't bring the language with them, it developed during the corded ware era with the mixing of the I1/2, R1a and R1b peoples and was properly proto-germanic at the start of the nordic bronze age around 1800BC, so around 2000 years before the migratory period.
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>>65830116
So?

It's still a blanda up of various cultures.
>>65830109
Belarussians and Ukrainians used to be our "Austrians", before Russians and Prussians started fucking with our borders.
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>>65828857
> But usually I`d hang around in /polska/ so...

Are you banterproofed?
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>>65830184
He's actually cool.
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>>65830162
>So?
So stop making completely inaccurate bullshit claims if you want to be taken even a a little bit seriously
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>>65829891
We did to them no thing that would be even remotely close to things german and russian scum did to us.
Stfu and gtfo, uneducated idiot.
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This thread is ebin.

Great example of Bolish Putthurt.

I guess this is the result of letting ultra-nationalists write history books for schools.
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>>65830302
>even reading a polish post
kek
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>>65830302
>>65830350
t. assblast

Nothing I said is wrong. R1b R1a and l1 created Germany.
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>>65830109
>and the guy refusing to accept that there was a belarussian/ukrainian identity
There was no such thing as Ukrainian identity until fuckin g*rms created it to weaken Poland

http://www.klubinteligencjipolskiej.pl/2016/08/jak-niemcy-stworzyli-ukraine-i-w-jakim-celu/
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>>65830379
I already proved you wrong, and you even admitted it, and now you're saying nothing you said is wrong. Polish intellectuals at work I see
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>>65827433
And also killed about 1 million Poles before, during and after ww2:
>The Polish Operation of the Soviet NKVD security service in 1937–1938 was a mass operation of the NKVD carried out against purported Polish agents in the Soviet Union during the period of the Great Purge. It was ordered by the Politburo against the so-called "Polish spies" and customarily interpreted by the NKVD officials as relating to "absolutely all Poles". It resulted in the sentencing of 139,835 people, and summary executions of 111,091 ethnic Poles

>In order to speed up the process the NKVD personnel reviewed local telephone books and arrested persons with Polish-sounding names. In Leningrad alone, almost 7,000 citizens were rounded up this way. A vast majority of such nominal "suspects" were executed within 10 days of arrest.[8]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD_(1937%E2%80%9338)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_of_Polish_citizens_(1939%E2%80%9346)

>Until 1947, some of the facilities were used as a prison camp of the Soviet NKVD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp#After_the_war

etc. etc.
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>>65830109
It depends. Deep down in the times of PLC one could identify himself as Pole, Ruthenian and so forth, and so froth, and it was okay. There were even Polish Germans, Doenhoffs for example. Similarly, much of Prussians or future Prussians still spoke Slavic dialects. And it was kinda beautiful.
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>>65829134
>>65829394
Hohols were chimping out so they were systematically punished. Nothing wrong with it.
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>>65830432
Thats pretty fascist of you to say!

Denying someones nationhood and identity!
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>>65828486
>Finnish empire is a meme
You are a meme
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>>65830443
You said nothing relevant nor clever

>>65829935
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>>65829668
>1863 revolt against Russian Empire
>Lithuanians and Poles revolt
>Ruthenians aka "real" Lithuanians according to Poles, don't revolt because they consider Catholic Lithuanians and Poles to be their oppressors

>The insurgence was not supported by the majority of the Orthodox Belarusian peasantry who considered the Catholics to be their historical oppressors.


really makes you think
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>>65830722
Yes, as a one true and only inventor of Greater Finland I want to stress that FINNISH EMPIRE IS NOT A MEME.

t. anon schizofrenik
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>>65830760
They were already russified, that's a pity
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>>65829394
>>65829134
And now post stomething about all those people killed by Ukrainian terrorists, starting from that PRO-UKRAINIAN minister Pieracki
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>>65822652
>country
what did he mean by this?
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>>65830886
*the one. Fucking prepositions.
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>>65830914
Yeah also can't see to correlate during conversion of Christianity Lithuania was converted to Catholicism which is state religion in Lithuania even today, then how come Belarus who are "true" Lithuania according to you are Orthodox and were so centuries before even Lithuania converted to Christianity? Huh?
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Are Poles the biggest faggots in the world?
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>>65831258
They're the most butthurt people, that's for sure. Even jews and armenians don't have this much of a victim complex.
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>>65822652
I love these threads
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this thread is autistic as fuck
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>>65831237
Not him, but conversion those days was really a messy thing. Vytautas for example was baptised four times, thrice by Teutons and once by Poles.

Also keep in mind that nobility and peasantry were different, akhem, animals. Nobility was often baptised in Orthodox rite, because Pagan overlords over Christian nobles were THE unthinkable. Meanwhile peasants were keeping their own customs, only reluctantly following the words of the clergy and gradually turning into the followers of new faith, one generation after another.

You decided to derive you modern nation from peasantry, because your nobility was *akhem* beyond recovery. Do I really have to lecture you about your own country?
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>>65831442
>Even jews
>Implying modern jews and modern poles are almost identical mentaly.
We have lived together for almost 1000 years. e weren't breeding with eachother, but ours different at the beging mentalities became almost identical, because of sharing history for this long.
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>>65831938

The Pole cries out in pain as he sinks his knife into somebodies back
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>>65831863
>wall of text
TL:DR : Only Poles were autistic enough to become real catholics. Liets, Rus' or Xoxols had been threating it more like a meme.
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>blah blah they spanked us :'(
Daily reminder that if we hurt anyone in the past they fully deserved it
Eternal Krauts,
Eternal Ruscy
Eternal lithuanians
Eternal ukraininas
They all deserved it and i'd be more than happy the watch their nations burn.
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>>65832034
>implicanto, projectio
And we were the only one who had used latin as state language for more than 500 years. And now you too, Brutus?
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>>65831863
During conversion of Lithuania main converts were nobility yes but they were were ethnic Lithuanians, peasantry was converted too and first Lithuanian churches/patrimonies were started in ethnic Lithuanian lands. Not in Belarus, because you know they already followed Orthodoxy since 10th century or so.

You should read what Dlugosz had to say about conversion of Lithuania. Jogaila and Vytautas translated prayers and baptized people themselves because the priests they brought from Poland didn't speak any Lithuanian.
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>>65832034
Also I'd like to apologise to the guy whom I told that Lithuania is Polish Ireland. I thought it would be nice, but now I see it should go the other way around...

Oh, perrfidious Albion, why God the Almighty punished you with such Lithuanians?
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A perfect thread to collect all the slavic retards on /int/.
I really enjoyed reading it.
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>>65832441
You gonna eat it next Christmas.
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>>65832609
I would like to see an explanation of your post without the corporate lexicon of the largest """"non-profit"""" organization of your country.
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>>65832728
You will run out of bliny.
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literally BTFO'd whole /int/ in one thread.
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>>65822953
wyperdalaj.
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>>65833284
Nie sluchaj go. Macie w Polsce przyjaciol
Haj żywe nezałeżna :3
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>>65833204
How?

What was btfod?
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>>65827487
yup
I know a girl who likes exactly like picrel, it's almost uncanny
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>>65833334
jaki masz w tym interes, chuju?
>>65833351
with facts
>>65833374
wygląda jak Magdalena Ogórek
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>>65833396
What was disproven?

I think it put some light onto polish crimes.

Crowing about howo thers were worse doesnt erase them.

just because kurds are opressed by turks doesnt mean they should get away with genociding (or helping with it) the assyrians.
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>>65833450
Not enough crimes.

We should've genocided Prussians and Russians. Use Ukrainians as slave workers, as you did with us.

That would be the German way.
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>>65833396
Nie twoj, zdecydowanie nie twoj. Ja po prostu lubie Ukraine i Ukraincow, a zwlaszcza Ukrainki
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>>65829029
Do you know what a hatefuck is? It might help a lot with understanding our relations
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>>65823017
>if.
exactly.
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>>65833529
Shure thing, imperial opressor.
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>>65823120
[citation needed]
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>>65833450
>polish crimes
No such thing exists as has been proven in this thread. If anything, we punished and retaliated savages who had hurted us first.
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>>65834387
As a catholic, you should understand that injustice plus injustice doesnt equal justice.
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>>65833921
Sorry but you are not getting rid of your title of the most barbarian and cancerous nation that ever lived on Earth
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>all the guilt-ridden germs and ruskies trying to make feel better about themselves by equaling their mass-scale atrocities that destroyed Europe to beating some Lithuanian peasants with a stick
tip top kek, keep trying to drag us down to your level, but be careful what you wish for.
I for one am sick with Poland being the goody-two-shoes moralfag of Europe.
Evil Poland when? It's our turn now!
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>>65834539
What makes you think I'm catholic?
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>>65832196
Since you started shit first you totally deserved what you got in return.
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>>65834656

I just like turning the table on your for a bit.

You are not completely innocent either.

I can accept what my country did, poles seemingly don't as you try to relativate it.

>>65834794
Well, poles...right :^)?
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>>65834822
>Since you started shit first
>this is what braindead kacap believes
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>>65834913
>poles seemingly don't as you try to relativate it
What the fuck do I try to relativize, idiot? Things that didn't happen?
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>>65823891
you have plenty of reasons to be shat on by the West.
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>>65824272
sperdalaj do /polska/, wvt
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>>65824469
so nuh-uh is your argumentation. Just "not true".
>>
>>65824539
well, it was Rus' not "Russia" and started with Kiev so... sorry to disappoint you m8 - but I side with the pole here.
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>>65824573
>Lwów

it`s Львiв, бpaтe.
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>>65824729
>Oлeг
Кий, Щeк, Хopив i cecтpa їхня Либiдь, motherfucker.
Also Acкoльд&Дip were earlier than Oleg.
>>
sage

sage you all

fuckers
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>>65838230
zamknij dupę

województwo podkarpackie here
former województwo lwowskie here
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>>65824838
>the
>a
those are articles not prepositions you yankee filth.
Why do americucks never know how to speak their own language?
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>>65838230
>Lwów
>ukrainian
Dream on hohol. It will always be Polish city. We'll take it back when the right time comes.
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>>65825391
Cossacks were one of the biggest military forces of North coast of Black Sea, a threat to Ottoman kebab keeping them and Mongolian tatar savages at bay. And you scumfucks sided with the Mongol more than once. I regret that the Gajdamaky didn`t erase you catholic filth from the face of Earth back then.
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>>65838230
Oh, please don't mind. We call Kiev Kijów, Paris Paryż, London Londyn, Washington Waszyngton, and the first president of US is known here as JERZY Waszyngton. It's somewhat amusing.
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>>65826420
>>65827006
>>65827825
>>65827990
>>65828027
>>65828069
>>65828111
>>65828142

http://www.pnas.org/content/105/47/18226.abstract

http://dirkschweitzer.net/LichtensteinCaveAnalysis0804DS.pdf

Reminder that supposedly polish R1a is found in ancient samples in germany before slavic people even existed
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>>65839523

What about Budapest, Belgrade, Chicago, New York, and L.A
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>>65839514
Don't reply to me scum
>>
official ww2 butthurt thread
get comfy
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The rest of the shit might be debateable, but the shit that went down during interwar was pretty dark.
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>>65840516

Why did they get so violent. Was it Russian rape that made the poles loose their innocence and love
>>
I think you'll find that we actually did dindu nuffin.
I mean besides trying to concquer russkies and shafting ukies, but who didn' try, that am i right?
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>>65840575
They had this grand plan of rebuilding a country from the Baltic sea to the Black sea and got very dissappointed when some didn't want anything to do with it.
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>>65839783
Reminder that if Slavic DNA existed somewhere it means that Slavs must have been there already at that time (it's called logic by the way) and that old dogmas must be rethinked.
Anyway you have no clue about genetics (your pic proves it) and origin of the Slavs so I won't even bother to discuss with you.
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>>65826008
wow it`s shocking how I actually find myself agreeing with a lech
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>>65840115
Budapeszt and Belgrad.

New York is written as Nowy Jork, what is pronounced like, you know: W = V, J = Y.

LA is written Los Angeles (we never use LA abbreviation), with somewhat American pronounciation of Los Andżeles.

Chicago is written Chicago, but we cannot agree should it be pronounced Czikago or Szikago.
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>>65841042
thanks
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>>65840936
>he thinks I implied that Rus is Ukrainian in that post
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>>65838083
>The term "Kievan Rus'" (Ки́eвcкaя Pycь Kievskaya Rus’) was coined in the 19th century in Russian historiography to refer to the period when the centre was in Kiev. In English, the term was introduced in the early 20th century, when it was found in the 1913 English translation of Vasily Klyuchevsky's A History of Russia

What is hard to understand there?

Or maybe you don't know from which russian city came Oleg?
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>>65838375
They were rulers of tribe of polyans, so? What connection do they have to Rus? They are founders of Kiev if we believe this legend, not the Rus as a state.
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>>65838375
Also, ask old and dir weren't earlier than Oleg, wyf is wrong with you?

They all were vassals of Rurik. Oleg stayed with rurik and brothers went to take Kiev. Then oleg with Rurik's son, Igor, came, killed them, and started ruling himself.
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>>65842573
>>65842573
>They all were vassals of Rurik
>Then he killed them

Because he had a whim. My vassals and my livestock, I kill them on breakfast.

But that's interesting. What were the borders of their fiefs? What amount of goods were they obliged to pay and what army were they obliged to put in field on Rurik's demand? Did they actully do this at least once? How did Rurik exactly administer his vassals when they were still alive, were there some state officials at their courts or anything?
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