>so many amazing and relevant nations throughout history >the

The baltics look like europe and africa in miniatur

>>65774656
Yo fag, lay off of Slovbro

For we are the resilient and the unwavering.

Daily reminder that Balts are the whitest Europeans and would have created vast and magnificent empires of colonisation, mathematics, science and literature had they not been surrounded by INFERIOR, if not SUBHUMAN sl*vs and g*ermanics who occupied their lands thus preventing them from achieving greatness.

This post is fact and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

Estonia is actually only South Finland.

>>65776086
THANK YOU

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>>65774656
What the fuck has your nation done in its entire history except losing wars to wildlife and breeding compulsive shitposters?

>>65778013
We invented Vegemite the the Hills Hoist, fuckwit.

Is the rest of the world even trying?

>>65778038
What does vegemite taste like?

>>65778038
* and the

>>65778084
It doesn't really have a specific flavour 2bh, so it can't really be compared to anything. That's part of what makes it unique though, I guess. If I tried to describe it, I would probably say
>salty as fuck
>bitter
>yeasty
So not really a flavour, just salt and yeast turned up to the max. Not that bad though when mixed with butter and spread on toast.

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>>65775112
wew mind is blow

>>65776177
Finland is actually only Eastern Sweden.

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>>65778169
You have it mixed up, Sweden is Western Finland.

>>65778184
Good try, your source-less, ethno-nationalist drawing of what you wish the world to be won't score you any points here Fingol ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland_under_Swedish_rule

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>>65778222
>sourceless
They're listed on the side of the image, dumb cuck.

>>65778013
>that pic
holy fucking kek i can't breathe

>>65774656
Lithuania was relevant for some time than Poland came and anschlussed them

>>65778240
That is not how sources work you halfwit, you can't just write ''the internet'' or ''wikipedia'' as a source, you have to give the specific articles and the specific parts of whatever literature you are using as a reference.

>Your picture is bullshit
>My source?
>Wikipedia
Now try to disprove that you fucking retard.

>>65774656
Baltics are rebelled Polish provinces and should be incorporated back to Poland, I agree, but fuck off from cute Slovakia

>>65778318
The sources are listed, if you're too dense to look them up for your own then hey ho.

>In the Orkeyinga and Hversu Noregr bygdistí (How Norway was inhabited) sagas in Flateyjarbókí from the 1100s it is presented that Suomi (Finland) and Kainuu (Kvenland) were a kind of basic kingdom of the whole North, from which the kingdoms of both Norway and Denmark were established, and additionally many kings and especially queens were delivered to reign in Sweden.

>The family tree of the king of Finland and Kvenland, Fornjotr (Old Jotun), is presented in its most full form in Orkneyinga saga chapter Fundinn Noreg (Finding Norway), published in Finnish in the book ‘Kvenland’ by Kyösti Julku and ‘Phases of Finland, Livland and Kurland’ by Johannes Messenius. Most of the names can be found also in Hversu Noregr bygdisti and some of the names in Historia Norwegiae from the end of 1100s.
The Germanic literature is mentioning Finns starting from the 600s. The oldest source, Widsith from the 600s, lists out tens of Migration period kings from the 400-500s. It mentions: Caesare weold Graecum, ond Caelic Finnum” * ”Caesar (translators note: emperor, not J.C) reigned Greeks and Caelic the Finns”. The well-known academic Kustaa Vilkuna thought that Caelic was gothic version from word 'Kaleva' (Gothic ending –ik).
>Orkneyinga and Hversu Noregr bygdist sagas even mention some of the Scandinavian gods deriving from the family tree of the Finnish kings. For instance, Hler, Loge and Kare, sons of one of the kings called Fornjotr. Hler went to Denmark and occupied the island of Hlersey/Laesö establishing a family of kings there. The sagas equate Hler and Aegir, the Scandinavian sea god (Finnish Ahti). Loge, on the other hand, established a family of kings in North Norway, from which Halogaland (high lights, Aurora borealis) is derived. Loge is also equated with fire or fire god (Finnish Liekkiö).

>>65778302
They were never relevant.
Big territory =/= relevancy. Mongols crushed th em.

>>65778366
Yet again you are not providing sources, just ''quotes''.

>Finland isn't a real country, and anything said by a Finn is a lie
That's somewhere in The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon, go look it up.

>Finnish Kings
Another thing that never existed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monarchs_of_Finland

Because ''Finland'' did not exist as an entity during those times, it was a loose scattering of tribes and not some kind of realm or kingdom.
And there isn't even a single line about mythological Finnish kings, such as there are about the first kings of Sweden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Finland

It's lovely that you have this little dream of yours, sadly it's simply not the reality we live in.

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>It's another Sweden and Finland arguing episode

At least try to be entertaining, like how Germans and Poles argue with each other.

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>>65778366
I also like that this is where you got it from, and what a reliable source it is. This is the only thing you get when you actually google your quotes.

There, I have provided your actual source. Which is literally almost as stupid of a meme as it gets.

Difference is, you try to pass it along as actual facts, which is hilariously dishonest and retarded.

>>65778536
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Widsith

Svecomans are close-minded by nature so discussing this any further will be pointless. There's a reason why Al-Idrisi and Widsith wrote of Finns but not Swedes.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monarchs_of_Finland
Look into the see more section, Kings of Kvenland and the deleted (by some butthurt Svecoman no doubt) article about ancient Finnish kings.

>>65778586
You wanna see where he gets his quotes from?

rapebook.com/RealFinlandball/posts/427696460742043

How can you not trust an accomplished historian like RealFinlandball?

>>65778671
It's a translation of a Finnish article originally posted on Kaltio, http://pastebin.com/6yQj14HA

Again, the sources are listed like the writings of Widsith.

>>65778675
Swedes were named by Tacitus
>Suiones in Tacitus' history Germania from the 1st century AD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedes


>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Widsith
Great, and no where does any mentions of Finnish Kings of Norway, Denmark or Sweden appear.
>Look into the see more section, Kings of Kvenland and the deleted (by some butthurt Svecoman no doubt) article about ancient Finnish kings.
Just stop trolling, spreading misinformation about history online is literally guttersnipe-level of mongolism.

But you're right, your lies are so obvious that I'm honestly surprised that you didn't make a better job of all this.

>>65778720
>pastebin
Ah, way to find a source just about as peer-reviewed and reliable as facebook.

>''Finnish Article''
Yet again it doesn't mean anything. If there was any scientific merit to this at all, people outside of ''TherealFinlandball'' would have bothered translating it.

I can write an article today and then use it as a source, doesn't mean it has any scientific validity.

>>65778842
>Numerous other sources from the Roman period onwards contain brief mentions of ancient (and probably also mythological) Finnish kings and place names, as such defining Finland as a kingdom and noting the culture of its people.
From your dearly beloved Jewpedia.
>In Norse mythology, Fornjót (Old Norse: Fornjótr) was an ancient giant and king of "Gotlandi, Kænlandi and Finnlandi"
King of Gotland, Kvenland and Finland.
Just so happens that
• "The hunter-gatherers show the greatest similarity to the modern-day Finns", says Pontus Skoglund, an evolutionary geneticist at Uppsala University in Sweden, about ancient skeletal remains excavated in Gotland: http://gotland.3000.BC.kvenland.org

Really compels you to ponder

>>65778944
First of all, in Greek Mythology Zeus can shoot lighting bolts from his hands.
Just like in Norse mythology, there are giants.
That doesn't actually mean they existed.

There is a reason why this is ''legend''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faravid

>Legend: Definition; a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times and popularly accepted as historical

Only it's not popularly accepted as history so much as it's the misinformation handed out by places like ''TheRealFinlandball''

Second, even if this myth was based on some truth, Gotland is not Sweden, the geats and the Gotlanders have some shared history, but the rule of the Iceland of Gotland has been passed around as much as Elsa-Lothringen.

>>65779145
Sure some aspects of sagas were mythological, but given the fact that sources like Widsith and Al-Idrisi wrote of Finnish kings I doubt that they are. I might add that it's pretty hypocritical that Swedish historians claim that sagas tell the truth about Viking kings, but all information about Finnish kings of Gotland, Kvenland and Finland they condemn as folkore.

>polish butthurt ITT
Oh I'm laffin', oh ma' Lord, am laffin'.

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>>65779282
>hypocritical that Swedish historians claim to tell the truth about viking kings
You haven't done your research. The first King of Sweden (a kingdom where the Swedes and the Geats united) was called Olof Skötkonung, and we are fairly sure he existed because he minted god damn coins with his face on them.

This isn't some vague story about ancient giants, this is tangible evidence.

>Some aspects of the sagas
They were completely mythological, which is why any historian who reads them take them with more than one grain of salt.

It's like reading a less comprehensive version of the Bible, sure there are some historical truths in it, but there are also angels and men who turned water into wine.

>>65779282
>>65779565
And the ''kings'' that came before him and his father (who didn't rule both tribes'' are called
''legendary''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legendary_kings_of_Sweden
And legendary is a prettier way of saying ''made up''

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>>65779565
>>65779617
The Eternal Svecoman again trying to morph history. We too had such coins.

>>65778184
>>65778240
WE

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>>65774656
>Estonia won a war against Russia
>Latvia won a war against Russia
>Lithuania won a war against Russia
>Australia can't won a war against emus

Also don't forget to give a mandatory blowjob to your local abo today.

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>>65779968
can't win* woops

>>65779861
>Ancient Finnish King on Coin
Literally what? Who is he? What is he?
provide a source or a name that I can look up.

Furthermore, you are taking your information from the ''sagas'', ''Scholars once believed that these sagas were transmitted orally from generation to generation until scribes wrote them down in the 13th century. However, most scholars now believe the sagas were conscious artistic creations, based on both oral and written tradition. A study focusing on the description of the items of clothing mentioned in the sagas concludes that the authors attempted to create a historic "feel" to the story, by dressing the characters in what was at the time thought to be "old fashioned clothing".

And the people you claim are the ancestors of the Swedish kings are completely out of legend, because even the kings you claim they are the ancestors of are fucking legend to begin with.

You know who else is a legendary king of Sweden?
Fucking Odin.

>thread about baltics and slovakia
>swedes,finns and poles come
Fuck off retards

>>65780022
Just do a reverse image search, you'll find plenty of info about it. The official version is that it's an imitation of Byzantine currency (which is bullshit).
>Kalevanpoika/Kalevipoeg/Kalev’s son is an over 2000 years old tradition in the Finnish and Estonian regions. It was pointed out as early as in the 1941 by Hannes Pukki that the word ‘kalev’-‘kaleva’ meant already in proto-Finnic (1000-0 B.C.) - and still means in Estonian language, a purple fabric (translator’s note: e.g. royal mantel). This etymology has been accepted also in the later 1900s. In other words, kalevanpoika/kalevipoeg/Kalev’s son=son wearing purple fabric/mantel.
>There is a juxtaposition: the sons of the Byzantine emperor were called ‘porfyrogennetos’, Purple-born. This would mean that Kalev’s sons were either a royal or an aristocratic family in Finland and Estonia living in these countries already in 1000-0 B.C.

And Odin was probably a real person. Rurikids and Fairhairs claimed to be direct descendants of him, and Rurikids belonged to a Finnic patrilineage. Also Odin came from the East (Asia) to rule over Scandinavia according to sagas.

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>>65780170
>The official version
You mean the non-conspiratorial version of reality? Yeah, you put the name ''ancient Finnish king'' in yourself, because you know that there is literally no reality to what you're saying, and you are looking and grasping for anything that can support your shallow and idiotic narrative instead of building a narrative from the evidence you are presented.

>Odin was probably a real person
You have nothing to base this on at all. Could there have been someone, or many people who together are responsible for creating some idea of a great man? Sure, but that is all it is.

You have literally zero evidence for this from a historical point of view. The Sagas of people who lived either hundreds, or thousands of years after the events they claimed happened aren't sources, they are useless except for sometimes giving a hint as to where modern archeologists ought to look for different things, and way more often than nought there hints are useless.

And once again, the quotes you are using comes from ''RealFinlandBall'', who somehow translated an article that you've linked on pastebin.

You have _nothing_. The fact that you're not ashamed to use sources like this proves that you're a shameless idiot who has no concerns in regards to historical accuracy.

thanks

>>65780423
>You mean the non-conspiratorial version of reality
Everything diverging from the official Svecoman narrative of Finnish history is supressed by academia.
>instead of building a narrative from the evidence you are presented
You should read the actual article (http://pastebin.com/6yQj14HA) instead of discarding everything, it lists plenty of sources. Up for you too look them up though, I can't be assed to look the exact passages from each of them to convince some Swedish 4chan poster.
>And once again, the quotes you are using comes from ''RealFinlandBall''
I'm not, it's from a Finnish forum from which the admin of said page presumably found it.
>You have _nothing_.
That's bullshit and you know it, this stuff wasn't built out of nothing.
>sources like this
Jesus fucking Christ you're dense

>>65780423
>You have nothing to base this on at all
I do, Scandinavians had a different view of what constitutes a god.

http://www.wilmer-t.net/fornnorden/AncientNordic/HumanOdin.html

>>65776086
god bless

>>65780656
>Conspiracy theories in regards to Svecomen
You are delusional to the point of no return.
Before you disregard the opinions of people who've spent their entire lives actually trying to map history maybe you ought to check yourself, and whatever clumsy pseudo-nationalistic agenda you're spouting.
>pastebin
This is nothing, because even if those sources led somewhere where actual skepticism and evidence is valued, your whole argument is based on LEGENDARY people, as in people who by all accounts never actually existed in the first place.

There is about as much evidence for your ideas that there is of Sauron ruling Middle Earth, which is why you have to use quotes (they exist no where else), try google yourself, from a facebook profile called RealFinlandBall.
>It's from a Finnish forum
More vague and useless statements. Finland has, just like many other countries around the world, an academic society (where most people aren't Swedes, or relatives of Swedes) that constantly tries to find evidence to better understand history.
>This stuff wasn't built out of nothing
Yes it was, because even the wild, baseless assumptions you make rests upon the belief that the Swedish Kings existed in the first place.

There is is no conclusive evidence of any Swedish king before the 9th century, and the further back you go, the less and less even circumstantial evidence there is until nothing but legends and made up stories remains.

>You are dense
No, you are dishonest, not only do you not actively supply sources (Because you know they are preposterous) so I have to backtrack everything you say (it all leads to RealFinlandBall, so I understand why you're trying to hide it).

You have nothing, nothing peer reviewed, nothing of substance.

People once tried to convince the world that Swedes were the direct descendants of Atlantis, your ideas are as shallow and idiotic as those of Olaus Rudbeck, and you definitely follow in his footsteps with your garbage.

>>65780960
I already linked you that Widsith passage on Wikipedia
>Casere weold Creacum
>ond Cælic Finnum
Just one of the many sources it lists.
>which is why you have to use quotes (they exist no where else)
Bullshit, see above.
>You have nothing, nothing peer reviewed, nothing of substance.
Academia actively suppresses this shit, like that article from the see more section that was deleted (highlighted in red).
>where most people aren't Swedes, or relatives of Swedes
Nonetheless driven by the same Svecoman agenda, upon diverging from which they'll lose their careers.

>>65780735
>Random link
>Website that looks it's from the 90s
>Website from 2003, ''work in progress''
>Who is Wilmer Thomas

Yet again, it's nothing new. There are legends about Odin, legends aren't fact or proof.
Odin, who rode an 8 legged horse and spoke to crows never existed. Was there some man who was wise and who looked like another wise man that has lived 20 years earlier? Sure, that could've happened, but that isn't evidence of anything.

>>65776086
Just...
http://www.google.ru/search?q=baltids&newwindow=1&hl=ru-RU&source=android-browser&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFv_-KicbPAhWKkywKHSxdD6AQ_AUIBigB

>>65781121
>Odin, who rode an 8 legged horse and spoke to crows never existed
There were myths about him, but that doesn't prove he never existed.

>>65781103
Widsith is a saga which is about as much evidence as Lorod the Rings, a work of ficton, on top of that there is no mention of Finns ruling Sweden or Norway.
>Academia actively suppresses this shit
Really, Swedish and Finnish academia suppresses knowledge of the legendary Swedish kings so that Finns can't claim that their ancestors were Kvens?

Do you not see how idiotic you look?

>Bullshit, see above
Your shitty pastebin article doesn't mean shit. It's not peer reviewed, I can write an article that idiots will believe in, it doesn't make it history.
>Lose their careers
Can you point to anyone, a historian who have lost their careers because they found evidence that Kvens or Finns were ancestors of the legendary Swedish kings, or whatever other idiotic idea you have?

>>65781172
And it doesn't prove that he existed in any sort of form resembling what Odin became over the oral traditions of generations that we have today either.

Most likely, as with most mythological people, there might have been someone, or a number of people who gave rise to the myth, and then time distorted and exaggerated everything, or someone just made him up.

You can't prove anything, except for the things that people believed about Odin, which is that he rode an eight legged horse.

>>65781225
>Really, Swedish and Finnish academia suppresses knowledge of the legendary Swedish kings so that Finns can't claim that their ancestors were Kvens
What the fuck are you saying? We were talking about Finnish kings, those which Swedish historians deem as folklore and proclaim everything in sagas glorifying Swedes the truth

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Just gonna squeeze in here and say.
ODIN WAS BASICALLY A SPACE MARINE AND HIS 2 CROWS THAT SAW THE WORLD WERE SATELLITES ORBITING EARTH AND THE 8 LEGGED HORSE WAS A FUCKING SPACESHIP FAMILIA.

Kangz niggu

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> balts are white

>>65781520
Why did you post your face, Vova?

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>>65781591
>google
> balltids

>>65781627
It might be called East "Baltid", but the East Baltid phenotype is more common in Finland/Karelia and North Russia.

>>65781627
And you think that is the predominant, or even the only, phenotype here? Kek, ok...

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>>65781627
east baltids are russians ;)

balts are aisto nordids and western baltids

>>65781627
literally mika häkkinen

>>65781744
I have an acquaintance who looks just like that guy. He works at a computer shop, and I'm going there to pick up a fan today. Going to call him a mongol.

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>responsible for half of europe being orthodox
>irrelevant

>>65781300
Because they are folklore, just like the legendary Swedish kings.

And furthermore, don't be an idiot, this conversation started because you claimed that stupid picture you posted had any historical value.

So no, we are actually talking about the merit of this picture.>>65778184
And you provided ''sources'' to prove that these people had actually existed.

The problem is, that on top of all the things you've proven to believe in without any actual evidence, you believe these ''Finns'' to have existed, even though that even Swedish historians accept that the legendary Swedish kings with all probability never existed. There is even LESS basis for those ''Finnish'' Kings to have existed than there is for their legendary Swedish offspring, which is why the idea that they actually did exist is preposterous.

>proclaim everything in sagas glorifying Swedes the truth
This is a fucking lie, or you're too fucking stupid to read what I'm writing.

The Swedish Kings mentioned in the Sagas are called ''Sagokungar'' in Swedish, or LEGENDARY SWEDISH KINGS in English.

'The Swedish mythological kings who preceded Eric the Victorious, according to sources such as the Norse Sagas, Beowulf, Rimbert, Adam of Bremen and Saxo Grammaticus, but who are of disputed historicity because the sources are more or less unreliable, and sometimes contradictory. They are called sagokonungar or sagokungar in Swedish, meaning "Saga kings" according to the etymology given by SAOB.''

We can't prove that they existed, just like you can't prove that ''Finnish Kings'' existed, because it's all based on legends and made up stories of people who lived hundreds of years after them.

You are basically the same as some ''Christian Historian'' traveling the world in search of Noah's Ark. You have the same retarded ''evidence'' (mentioned in a fabricated story) made from legends.

Now, is there evidence to support that there were floods in the past that wiped out entire cities?

>>65781816
please film it and post it here

>>65776086
But Lithuania and Latvia are slavic aswell.
In fact, their ancestors genocided the blatic Livonians and took their land

>>65775183
Ďakujem :3

>>65781300
>>65781865
Possibly yes, but to believe that the story is actually true? Christian ''scientists'' have claimed to have found where the ark landed, and that ''mainstream academia'' is suppressing the evidence for it.

Christian ''scientists'' also claims that humans walked with dinosaurs, and that academic community is actively suppressing this knowledge in some big conspiracy.

You are just like them, you get your ''evidence'' from legends that aren't seen as reality by any historian. You don't have any credible sources except for Sagas and holy texts written after whatever events you pretend happened actually happened.

And no, it's not Swedish historians who deem your ideas to be folklore at best, it's actual historians in Finland.

And I still want you to point me to some historian who've lost their career over this, as you claimed has happened.

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>>65781860
uwot?

>>65781937
>laughinggirls.jpg

>>65781937
weak bait

>>65782085
>>65782109
how is it bait?
where is Livonian culture and language now?
Estonians are the only survivors of the slavic genocide of baltic people

>>65782153
Germbro gets it

>>65782153
Provide proofs, pidor xDDDD

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>>65781865
>Now, is there evidence to support that there were floods in the past that wiped out entire cities?
Umm yeah... just google submerged city, there are plenty.
t. other

>>65782243
After everything written in this thread, this is what you hone in on?

Yes, there are submerged cities, does that prove the great deluge and that ark ever existed?

No, the idea of the ark was born out of these happenings, which is my point.

>>65782153
youre not improving

>>65782221
>>65782438
look, you are not responsible for the genocide your ancestors commited.
but please dont act as if your countries are innocent maidens who were bullied by evil slavs.
You were the bullies

>>65782303
Sorry just popped in, i didn't read your autism wars.
I hope we find archeological evidence in time, some people are trying to find the grave of King of Häme. Theres too much lies in this world already.

But if you want my opinion, i think there were bosses here too. Just like in every "civilization" or bumfuck village.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/3-8564263
http://yle.fi/uutiset/3-7971315
idk if you can swap yle to swedish.

I dont know the swedish narrative but i bet it's prettymuch "ayy lmao finns didn't have shit lulz we like did all the shit for them fucking pagans praise the church"
And that is proven bullshit. Historians were biased as fuck back in the day.

>>65782572
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>>65782723
hmm

>>65782799
>Finland more Germanic than Germany
wtf this cant be true

>>65782639
Of course there were bosses in Finland.
Just like Sweden before centralization, there were tribal leaders and petty kings and people living in little villages, not too concerned with what was beyond the hills on the horizon.

Both areas of what is Sweden and Finland today exists in the periphery of Europe, we developed into proper states much later than other people closer to the center of civilization on the continent.

And just like the Danes formed their Kingdom before us, we formed ours before the Finnish tribes united. And then Swedish expansion happened into lands that was simply too underdeveloped (just like Sweden had been a few hundred years earlier) to hold off the invaders. And in these times before we wrote shit down, people came up with myths about kings and gods based loosely on people that lived, or stories about people that lived.

And as for autism wars, it's true, but I'm not going to let some guy without any credible evidence and who believes that Swedish people in Finland controls your universities and fires anyone who goes against the agenda (which he did claim happened to historians who didn't believe the ''Swedish'' narrative) I asked him to show me anyone who's been fired from a Finnish university for finding evidence that ancient Finnish kings ruled Norway, Denmark and Sweden.

>>65782860
Look around you man. Germany of german people died after ww2

>>65782860
I1 is actually Nordic (pre-Germanic), proto-Germanic speakers were R1 carriers.

>>65782860
I1 isn't Germanic

>Of the 28% of I1 in Finland, 80% belong to the exclusively Finnish L287 and L300 subclades, while the rest (5%) generally resemble more closely Swedish I1. These are typically found on the west and south-west coast of Finland, where Swedes have settled in historical times and where Swedish is still spoken. This is also where most of the R1b (3.5%) and Scandinavian R1a-Z282 (3%) is to be found. The Scandinavian I1 in Finland is found at a similar proportion to R1b and R1a as in Sweden. In contrast, Finnish I1 is found in all the country, where hardly any Germanic Y-DNA is present. This is another confirmation that the I1 in Finland is pre-Germanic, pre-Bronze Age, and consequently of Mesolithic origin.

Friendly reminder that Finland isnt Aryan

>>65783005
We would never go as low as to label ourselves Aryan.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/orja#Etymology
>From an Indo-Iranian word for Aryan (compare Slav → slave); cognate to Estonian ori, Erzya ype (ure) and Udmurt вap (var).

Stop fighting for estupid ethnic reasons, we are all European brothers, heirs of a majestic civilization. We must unite against the real enemy: Amerifat imperialism and Muslumzs.

>>65782799
>haplogroups
Hmmm...

>>65783050
>slow vaks
>heirs of a majestic civilization
lmao

>>65783005
Yeah, cos we're finns and aryans are a fairytale.

>>65783090
Hungary was doing well during the 19th century

>>65776086
preach it, lil niccuh. Stay woke!

>>65783117
maybe but slovaks were just worthless peasant vermin

>>65782860
Don't consider the names those retarded memers give haplogroups.

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>>65783050
>Finns
>Heirs of a majestic civilization

>>65783157
>>65783090

t. Krisztián Kovács

>>65783173
this

even Iranians are R1a

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>>65783194

>>65783090
>>65783194

Yes, you are.

>>65783050
Fuck you, man. There is no such thing as "we are all European brothers".

>>65783209
>>65783266
slavs = slaves

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>>65783350
Maďari za Dunaj

>>65783324
>There is no such thing as "we are all European brothers

I'm not talking about European "union". Denying the existence of Europe, as a civilization, is really stupid.

>>65783239
Yeah but they're also r2d2poop2.

>>65783266
and which civilization might that be

>>65783434
I'm not denying the "existence of Europe as a civilization" for what it's worth. I'm just saying that there is no connection between me and the rest of you so there is no point in uniting for whatever reason there is.

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>>65783782
Yeah cos you're a gypsie.

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>>65783350
get a proxy or something

>>65783878
Call me whatever you like. It's not like I give a fuck what a snow nigger thinks about me or bulgarians in general.

>>65781705
>and western baltids
no

>>65783034
Slav --> slave is a bullshit created by 19th century german "linguists"
Aryan --> orja is probably similar crap

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We wuz KANGZ N SHIET

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>>65784643

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stfu faggot
most nations were irrelevant through history including yours
at least we wuz kangz

>>65782860
because Germany's a mutt of Slavshits, Nords and Celts

You're not even a real nation.

>>65790419
Pretty mucheveryone was kangz at one point.

>>65783005
and? we arent too
we are finnics who are 100% more superior than any Ar*an

>>65783005
I woke up one morning, looked in the mirror and realized I'm a mongol.
It will happen to you!

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>>65791054
superior at looking like weird mongrel trash

>>65791132
>t. wendo-sarmatian-wandal

>>65791106
>tfw no matter how much I try I can't into mongol
Well shit, I must be a slav.

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>>65791132

>>65791207
I have no beef with you faggot, so don't respond to me unless I tell you to do.

>>65791275
Whatcha gonna do, bleed on me?

>>65779945
WUZ

>>65791318
finno-ugric mongrel raus, bitte

>>65791418
Learning the language so you can plumb in germany I see

>>65791491
>muslims
>toilets
Learning German was to honour my ancestors that will soon lose their own country because of their stupidity.

>>65791592
>honour my ancestors
Raped by germs I see

>>65791635
No, they were from Saxony.

Russian subhumans burned their house.

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>>65791418
>mongrel
Hmm, what does that make you?

we wuz kangs of north

t. finn

>>65791749
a shitposter, you fucking cunt

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>>65791698
>muh hurritage
>being this american

>>65791823
it doesn't work in europe

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>>65791856
>I'm 1/128th german I'm honouring my ancestors

>>65791749
oh my, a lot of far east ape blood in you indeed

>>65791900
100% actually

but yeah, whatever mongol

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>>65791931
>his grandmothers were raped by russians
>he thinks he's german

>>65791923
i'd take east asian blood over arab blood anyday tbqhwyf

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>>65783509
Rome