Chinese Thread

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/balt/..

>>65735828
SAYBA~

>>65735732
Who is this semen demon?

>>65735885
Bingbong Chingchong

>>65735885
arthuria, king of the britons

>>65735732
Chinese girls usually aren't as good looking as their Japanese counterparts, but I welcome China stealing Japanese idol culture if they're going to make them less cute and more slutty.

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>>65735885
baka.

这些美国人。。。。


>>65736102
I don't even really like K-pop--or her group's music--but there's something about this girl that's driving me crazy.

>>65736120
but what? generic korea pop look

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>>65736120
Need more pictures brehs...

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Kong Cher
China's Suzy

tfw I'll never hold her hands with her as I walk her home.

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>>65736139
The only kpops I feel are on her level are Eunha and Minah. And it's not a very close thing, either. Shit's brazy.

< Eunha

>>65736171
The only time I've ever found Suzy really attractive was in the I Don't Need A Man video. Even then Fei > Suzy. Fei > Suzy in all cases anyway, actually. Not, mind, that I really have a thing for Chinese girls, it's just that Fei >>> Suzy in all cases.

>>65736120
i still don't understand westerners taste for kpop
only hs girls like that stuff in china

>>65736211
I got into it after stumbling onto a Lim Kim song on youtube (Love Game). Then I--THINK--I saw an /r/kpop thread on /r/all, I don't actually recall how I found my way there anymore, and I've been listening casually ever since. Being real, most of my interest in kpop is in ogling the girls and the enjoying the scandals and general bs.

>>65736204
I find Suzy more cute/baby faced than attractive, if that makes sense. I agree about Fei tho. she is so hot. when Miss A debut, she was the one that instantly captured my sights.

>>65736246
it looks a fun and dance but there is some dark stuff going on behind the scenes
i just can't bear it thinking about all the pure innocent chinese girls ruined by greedy lusty middle aged south korean manangers

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>>65736278
It's a damn shame her solo flopped though. The song was so good. Between this SCS business and the ban on apparent K-pop in China, nothing is looking good rn.


>>65736298
>implying you're not your peepee to the thought of old & fat men molesting innocent kpops every night like a good little cuccboi.

But in all seriousness, wtf is up with the entertainment industry? Last month, maybe two, I was reading an article about a police probe into an agency where an older singer was helping at least one manager molest underage/young adult trainees. The identity of all the perps was hidden but supposedly, according to some posters, the woman could have been helping because she had been previously molested and developed Stockholm or some such.

>>65736360
it is a front for their prostitution ring
it's just that they make so much they don't make much fuss about it
a lot have come out saying stuff but they aren't taken seriously due to all the money involved
a few hundreds of girls, billions of dollars, 1+1 and so on

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>>65736360
that sns post about the nine dash line really turned a lot of Koreans off. and sadly she wasn't really that popular and Miss A became the Suzy show. if it's Miss A, majority will immediately just think about Suzy.

>>65736422
there's stricter measures now, but the smaller companies with underperforming groups/artists still probably engage in it. and some idols who make bad decisions with their money and get into debt.

>>65736532
>those thighs will never wrap around you

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>>65736422
>it is a front for their prostitution ring

Whose prostitution ring? After that suicide where the girl named a bunch of people in her last notes, I wouldn't be surprised by anyone you'd name but do you have any rumors or leads or whatever?


btw there is nobody in kpop, right now, more overrated than Chewy. She's pretty but acting like she's the peak of visuals...especially when there are more pretty kpops...

>>65736608
just what i hear on 4chan

How do I become Chinese?

man i hope china invades us.

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>>65736532
The absolute WORST part about that whole fiasco, imo? She didn't have anything to fall back on in China. I'm sure other, more established, artists could have easily/with difficulty surived that situation, but her career died the minute she pressed 'post.' Then there's the fact that she wouldn't have had a career in SK anyway because they never gave a fuck about her or anyone not named Suzy in MA. Then if she'd turned on China she would've never heard the end of it. You can't even keep silent in these situations either; silence is considered dissent to BOTH sides.

>>65736642
Any person who meets the requirements laid down in Articles 7 and 8 of the CNL can apply for naturalisation as a Chinese national.

Article 7
Foreign nationals or stateless persons who are willing to abide by China’s constitution and laws and who meet one of the following conditions may be naturalised upon approval of their applications:
they are near relatives of Chinese nationals;
they have settled in China; or
they have other legitimate reasons.

Article 8
Any person who applies for naturalisation as a Chinese national shall acquire Chinese nationality upon approval of his application; a person whose application for naturalisation as a Chinese national has been approved shall not retain foreign nationality.

Anyone else here able to converse in madarin?

>>65736608
>acting like she's the peak of visuals
it's just netizens who keep parroting it lmao.

>>65736681
...badly? I'm nearing on 9 months of study.

>>65736681
不好意思,我只会说东干语

>>65736681
shanghai hua ye xing
uh zonghai ee wu aa ku yi

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>>65736678
I thought, for some reason, that China would have immigration laws as strict as its neighbour. Why are they so welcoming to immigrants anyway? They already have a billion mouths to feed.

Not a xenophobe, promise.

>>65736780
china likes western foreigners
on a whole they make positive contribution to the society

>>65736780
The citizenship laws are deceptively simple looking. Officially you can become a naturalized citizen, but in reality there have only been a few thousand people who have successfully naturalized in the past decade.

>>65736768

>shanghai hua ye xing

Hurt flower too/also natural?

听不懂。。。

>>65736815
>上海话也行

>>65736815
sry

>>65736768
nong ho, zan hei nin

>>65736768
I can never in my life understand pin yin

>>65736839

With >>65736825's help, I was able to figure out that you speak the Shanghai dialect, but what does the 行 mean in this context?

>>65736846
oh ho, ya ve cha la va
>>65736871
it's not, shanghainess cannot be put into pinyin in correctly, that's not romanized

>>65736886
行 can have a meaning similar to 好 as in "fine, all right, ok"

>>65736886
可以的意思

>>65736911

我认为你说,“Good Idea.”

>>65736909
Hmmm

>>65736889
actually I don't even really know pinyin, I use zhuyin, which works more like a traditional alphabet

>>65736979
i know but all the pinyin sounds are from zhuyin they are from the same source
bopomofo to start etc, there is a long history but all sounds in pinyin has their analogous sound in zhuyin, it is made specifically for the standardization of mandarin

>>65736733
>东干语
bud why

>>65737038
Dungan is a based language

>>65737071
how did you learn it, did you live there

they're cute, easy to get, and there's tons of them everywhere you look

it can't be real, it has to be an inside job so that China can take over Canada

>>65737077
I'm kidding, I don't actually speak it. I just remember reading about it before because it's really unique because it uses Cyrillic instead of hanzi

I doubt there are even any books to learn it from

Recently thought I've been trying to study 维吾尔语 and 遵义话 because for Uyghur there are actually books, and for Zunyihua I have friends who are willing to teach it to me.

>>65737095
Are you in Vancouver? I heard the feds did something to ban Chinese people from using property there as financial safe-havens that aren't lived in. How've things been going on the ground?

>>65737105
Clearly you don't live in China, but are you Chinese?

>>65737105
very cool always nice to see people learning different chinese languages

>>65737134
Nah, just an American China-boo

>>65737153
It's fun to learn dialects, especially more obscure ones like 遵义话 because when you speak a few words of it, people are completely surprised

>>65737153
Why is the CCP trying to kill all of them off? I've read that with each passing generation, the percentage of people that can and regularly speak non-Mandarin dialects plummets. Why do the CCP hate Chinese culture so much?

>>65737134
nahh the GTA(Greater Toronto Area)

a new tax was put through recently to deter them from doing it but idk how it'll work out

>>65737194
Are there really many Chinese girls in your area? What brought them to Canada anyway? I heard your immigration laws are actually quite tough. Tougher than American ones, even.

>>65737193
Previously the government was more hostile to dialects, but that's less the case now. Imo, nowadays it's more so younger people seeing dialects as useless as Mandarin is the language of education, business, etc, so the younger people don't really care as much for passing down their dialects. This is really dependent on the community/city though - Cantonese speakers tend to be pretty adamant about preserving Canto, and when I was in Guizhou all of the young people had no issue speaking Guizhou dialect, but especially in cities like Shanghai, the Shanghai dialect isn't heard too much because it's a city with tons of migrants from all over the country, so it's a necessity to use Mandarin to communicate.

>>65737193
ccp just wants everyone to be able to speak it, they did try to ban broadcasting of them on national tv (except cantonese ofc since there is like 200 million) but that was recieved negatively so they stopped some local provincials have their news and stuff in the regional dialect or even languages
but due to movement of people standardized education and media it reinforces mandarin and there is a great social stigma about the migrant population and their accents
in terms of cultural heritage it is a catastrophe but the ccp just like the famines of the 1950s is only a catalyst
as regions become wealthy they get some revival and with the various forms of opera which are always popular there is some hope

>>65737221
Toronto has tons of them at any given moment, and Markham is pretty much a Chinese majority

I don't know how hard it is to get in Canada because I was born here, and there's a lot of them relative to Canada's population but it's a small amount of Chinese people relative to China's population

>>65737250
I keep imagining the difference between the various Chinese dialects as roughly equal to the difference between, say, New Orleans English and New York English. Culturally quite great, thus you have many terms for things New Yorkers might not recognize for foods, but otherwise easily mutually intelligible. In Chinese, are the differences between 'dialects' similar to the differences between Italian and French?

>>65737292
But why isn't there a more serious effort from the CCP to preserve this cultural heritage? This other guy >>65737105, is trying to learn some of the dialects but are there books in Mandarin for all or even most of them? Even a sizable minority? Why aren't there projects to reduce the stigma of speaking the way your parents, their parents, and so on speak and spoke? Why do the Chinese people of 2066 have to pray that someone had the ability to make a play in some obscure dialect that exploded in popularity and caused a resurgence and thus they're able to learn what it sounded like and study it?

>>65737352
>In Chinese, are the differences between 'dialects' similar to the differences between Italian and French?

It depends on the dialects you're comparing.

Guizhou dialect and Sichuan dialect are pretty much mutually intelligible, for example.

Meanwhile, Wenzhou dialect is known for being so different compared to other dialects, that I remember reading about a guy in a restaurant speaking Wenzhounese with his friends, and the waitress handed them English menus.

>>65737421
They should go to a Chinese restaurant here then. The staff can probably speak Wenzhounese.

>>65737388
>but are there books in Mandarin for all or even most of them?
Depends on the dialect. I only found like 1 or 2 books for the Zunyi dialect and they were like academic grammar studies.

Meanwhile, Uyghur, Cantonese, Shanghainese and Tibetan (well uyghur and Tibetan aren't dialects but still) have a lot more resources available.

>>65737388
at the time they were afraid of regional power but now they don't really care, the provincial government has a lot of power but they don't see it as a cultural preservation, all they care about is economics and the movement of people, culture is an afterthought

i didn't mention but various dialects of mandarin have relatively low intelligibility with each other not to mention non-mandarin dialects which are derived from earlier versions of chinese before the southern migration and so forth so it is not comparable to say various forms of german

the stigma is kind of social cultural trait, a long time ago the elite mandarin accent was luoyang/henan, then when the mongols and manchu came it became beijing, hence all the er sounds in mandarin, for a long time suzhou was the elite wu dialect, then it became shanghainese after after the fall of qing

as migrants move up the economic chain they start to adopt the local dialect, in this way they can be seen as a productive member who assimilates, chinese are very regional as well

>>65737569
Being real, it's little things like this that push me--slightly--away from capitalism. Once all those years of culture are casually destroyed from the minds of millions...they're gone. Forever. Period. Assuming anyone ever remembers they existed, were they to try 'recreating' it, it would just be a hollow shell of the real thing. Would people take more care of their history under a different system? I don't really know or really think so, but clearly Capitalism is destructive to this aspect of Humanity.

>>65737507
Why do you say that? Was there a great migration of Wenzhounese speakers some time ago to PH?

>>65737714
PH? Something related to dermatology?
荷蘭華人大部分來自溫州.

>>65737736
Philippines.

>>65737678
I suppose it's important to remember that the legitimacy of the Party is based on their economic progress - measures like encouraging the use of Mandarin are all done in order to help the Chinese economy.

>>65737678

you know it may seems that way but this is part of price you pay for being in this age, sure we can't all speak like the romans but at least be don't have to do declensions

when i was young i used to be so proud of the fact that i spoke 金山话 (you can look it up somewhere it sounds pretty bad to westerners), it seems ridiculous but it is a sub-relative of shanghai dialect and within it there is also songjiang etc, and within 金山话 there is minor differences in the noun 我 which was nu, as opposed to gnu in shanghainese or ahnu in another form of 金山话 and that if i went to live in shanghai i would be looked down as a rural hick and that morphological it was closer to zhejiang shaoxing hua

so its a lot of identities and skins you have to wear or shed, it's always like this but much more pointedly since everyone moves and everyone have to give up something

>>65737678
Why does it move you away from capitalism? The Chinese government was much more strict about this when being branded a capitalist was a death sentence.

>chinese thread
>people talks about k-pop no chinese stuff
>the people are literal oversea chinks
usual

>>65738050
sry i cannot live up to your expectations, forgive me

>>65738036
>Why does it move you away from capitalism?

Without a need for money pushing people towards the cities in order to avoid poor living conditions in the communities in which their cultures are strong, people would feel more in touch with their heritage and thus cherish it more. More, as >>65737569, said: the powers that be, the ones with the ability to do something about the rampant loss of dialects, are unwilling to dedicate any resources because they just want to keep pushing for more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more growth.

It's just sad and aggravating. Though I do know the communists really weren't any better..

Vanguardism is bullshit btw, as Stalin and them proved without any room for doubt.

>>65738050
What are you talking about? You haven't even read the thread...

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>>65738036
>when being branded a capitalist was a death sentence.

>>65738159
Is that Liu Shaoqi getting rekt?

>>65738181
no he didn't get a plaque they won't let the rabble handle an ex-standing member
the crossed out characters are their names

>>65738181
I don't think that's him

>>65738254
Just a lookalike then.

Moving to Suzhou two weeks from now.

What do?

Don't worry I've practiced my squatting for the more rural areas.

>>65735732

stop starting these threads you fucking faggots. no one likes china

>>65739559
They're all look Alikes

>>65739784
Better get a head start and accept them now before they take over the world.

>>65739616

I think I remember you from the /trv/ china threads. You're black right? You aren't going to like china, my niggeroh

>>65739815
Not black.

I'm looking forward to everything being a little wacky.

>>65739891

ah well. suzhou is just like a suburb of shanghai. it'll be boring as fuck, but you still wont get any points for being exotic with the girls because of all the millions of white faggots in shanghai next door

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>>65739973
Whatever, I hear Chinese girls are incredibly possessive anyways.

Give me life advice.

>>65740062
Make sure you study Chinese

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>>65735732
I really like China

>>65740153
>>65735732

these girls are korean gooks, you fucking idiots

>>65740082
Should I go with Mandarin or the local dialect?

I get that Mandarin is becoming the default language thanks to the government, but I'm wondering if I could get closer to the locals if I knew THEIR language. Also I hear Suzhou has Opera in the traditional Wu language so that could be cool. (And I kind of wanna take Cantonese to watch Hong Kong cinema)

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>>65740188
>Mei Qi
Luoyang, China

>Cheng Xiao
Shenzhen, China

>>65740247
Mandarin first, and then if you want, start studying the dialect once your Mandarin is good enough to be able to read websites that have resources for learning dialects, unless you get lucky and find a local who's willing to teach you the dialect. But Mandarin is a necessity.

>>65739784
We would not have these threads if that were true. You are like a person who walks into a bakery and complains to the owner and the costumers that no one likes bread.

換句話說你是過胖的傻逼。

>>65740354
>It's the year 2040
>4chan still around
>China finally has a great cultural output, Chinese cartoons are literally loved around the world
>Chinese thread on /int/ has tons of posters
>Tfw we were posting in the Chinese thread before it was cool

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>>65740613

>>65740354

kill yourself dutch chink

>>65740721
不要

So I heard girls like the boyish one of Twice

I sort of have her hair and am at least 180cm tall.

Does that mean I can get those girls to like me?

Why is it that some people say 玩 as wanrrrrrr
is this a dialect thing?

>>65742138
我要wanrrrrrrrrr 你的奶子

>>65742138
It's how people from Peking and Manchuria pronunce it. Most textbooks use that pronunciation, but don't be surprised when native speakers don't actually talk like that.

Finnish boipucci>chinese

>>65742580
Thailand forever number one when it comes to this.

>>65743455
Tailan doesn't count

He mean femboys not trannies

>>65743485
坦白說我把femboy和tranny分不清

你們吃午餐/晚餐了沒? 吃了什麼?

>>65743758
Femboys have no boobs and are not mutiliated be it through hormonal treatment or vaginoplasty

>>65745779
Thanks for sharing your expertise.

>>65747192
I am happy to help correct the record

Also, just because I like femboys does it mean I am gay.

No homo guys

>>65745694
吃了晚饭。
我妈妈做的米饭和生鱼片。

>>65747707
请问是哪种鱼

>>65748090
鮪。

>>65748216
介意向令堂问一下多少yen一斤吗

>>65748337
对不起。妈妈已经睡了。

>>65748619
没关系