C A N Z U K

>>65717384
Anglo nations should have close bonds at all time.

Because it's extremely unlikely to happen
For military, it would be the UK supporting the others

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>>65717384
>Australian economy

Good thread
Good people
Good times

It'd probably be ok as long as we didn't adopt the UK's shitty """""""""""hate speech"""""""""" laws.

>>65717500
>Canadian banana trade
You boys rely on oil to make up a budget that is 10 bil in deficit

>>65717441
Nah desu the Aussies have a pretty strong military for their size and are fully self sufficient, it would mainly be us and Canada leaching. Aus would add to it though.

>>65717601
THIS

This is why domestic policy should stay with the parliaments.

>>65717677
how about the nations are dissolved, but each state, province and constituent country gets it's own parliament

>>65717629
The Canadian and Australian militaries are almost identical in term of strength.

But they have more Naval power, we have more Land power

>>65717734
Tbh that would just slowly lead to a US, when it was first made the Presidency was almost irrelevant and it was more like a glorified EU, but now it is only a few steps off a unitary state in many ways and that is despite the constitution and fear that would happen.

Generally though we need to build the h y p e before the UK finds its way back into the EU or Scotland finds its way out of the UK.

>>65717883
You guys are in a way harder position to defend though with the whole North Arctic thing though, you guys are hardly militarized though compared to Aus so if you did you could be a proper power even without it.

why would we want the uk and nz dragging us down

>>65718010
>Implying Aussies don't get off on making us a state/territory/vassal

Where would we put the capital? London? We'd be going back to a sun never sets arrangement.

>>65717963
>whole North Arctic thing

Yeah and baby Trudeau is too pussy to militarize it (Just a few days ago he said "it's no place for military activity"). So it looks like Russia is going to take over the Arctic

>Canada
>Australia
>Anglo
Good meme

>>65718156
>"Haha I'm an environmentalist"
>"Oh yeah the Russians can take the Arctic, I'm sure they'll do a good job"
I could understand wanting to end it senpai
>>65718139
Multiple capitals is not unheard of, maybe rotate on the yearly where the Imperial Senate sits

I'm all for it lads desu.

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>>65717629
>Nah desu the Aussies have a pretty strong military
>Australian military
>Australian economy
>Australian technology
>Australian culture

Boys if fucking /pol/ can win a US election I'm preddy sure /int/ can make a Superpower.

>>65718472
It still wouldn't be a superpower.

>>65718637
Nah it wouldn't but it would be pretty fucking powerful. Like, top three, it would beat Russia in soft power by a mile, and likely challenge China.

Wouldn't match the US though.

joining

>>65717384
>canada gets in
>ITT: poo peeland attemps a geopolitics

>>65718791
Rude senpai

What would the flag be, Union Jack?

>>65719614
Idk, I've seen some thrown around but they usually include Yank bits. Just something that is Anglo asf.

www.canzuk.org

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>>65717384
>Anglo infographic
>all values in USD
Don't you see how cucked you are either way?

>>65717384
why did you guys leave anyway? come home

>>65720330
>Implying an CANZUK currency wouldn't emerge dominant after the creation of a union due to its geographic usage (Aka it would be used on three continents so would become relevant all over the globe).

Just you wait kiddo.

>>65720477
You guys for the most part forced us to, before the EU we were pretty much still a part of the UK in all things but law, but when you joined the EU you put up Tariffs on your own fucking colonies.

>>65720553
fuck sake, sorry our kid.

>pretty much still a part of the UK in all things but law

makes sense to me

Would Newfoundland be it's own thing again? Kinda like Canada's NZ.

>>65721047
That'd be pretty based but that is sorta a Canadian issue to sort out, I couldn't see the union locking Newfoundland out unless the Canadians opposed its independence though.

I'm up for it.

>>65717384
Build supercarriers when you do, ramps are embarrassing

>>65717384
Boris Johnson wants this, but weedman is french and turnbull is a republican

>>65721826
They are, but we here won't give up our Nuclear treaties so we can't have Nuclear propulsion which limits the size and scope.

>>65721882
Unfortunately but I wager the public wants it.

>>65722021
Why would the public want a political union

All these boys saying "This sounds great" and "I'm in" ITT but I ain't seeing a campaign of pro-CANZUK shills anywhere.

>>65722315
They already want free movement within the Anglosphere Monarchies (An average of about 80% support throughout the Anglosphere Monarchies) and there is huge post-Brexit support for it.

Both the left through their support for Globalism and the Right through their support for the Monarchy and Britain are in favour of some form of closer integration. Maybe not a full political union, but one step at a time.

Canada is not allowed in our club if they bring Quebec. Even with poutine.

>>65722698
>Not wanting bilingual French Catholic qts to spank and eat pancakes with

Basically a Kraut

>>65723131
you can cross enemy lines to shag JFs, frogs don't get a vote

>>65722698

lad you're out of your mind. quebecoise women are literal angels

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>>65718791
this we belong with the America.

Would be great but all the remain cuck would cry that its racist for not accepting the shitty parts of the commonwealth and because of Australias based immigration policy

>>65717629
>entire bogan economy is selling rocks to china
>75% banana rocks economy tied to china
lol no.

>>65723614
Tbh they'll be happy to be part of it I think as it'll be the next best thing to the EU in their eyes. The lefties in the UK do throw me off though, even we are better.

>>65723570
Fuck off, you would just vote for Democrats and put this country into the shitter even more than it already is

>>65724079

I doubt it, most remainers will be tell us till they day they die "Im European, not British!"

You have no idea of how stupid our lefties really are

I do like you NZ, I really do, but sometimes you are most incredibly silly

>>65724243
Fucking hell boys, you used to take pride in being non-Euro

>>65725128
Well the majority of brits did just tell them and the EU to fuck off, do its not all over yet

>>65722698
:( Sorry for being French

>>65722698
Quebec is the only good part of Canada anyway

>>65725425
R u a qt French Canadian Catholic grill?

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>>65717629
>Nah desu the Aussies have a pretty strong military for their size and are fully self sufficient
>fully self sufficient

You're joking right?

>>65729335
Alot of that is built in Australia however. Almost all of the Hornets were for example.

>Wanting to join A FUCKING LEAF

>>65729516
>Alot of that is built in Australia however.
So what? That does not make them "self sufficient". If they want to build more Hornets they not only need the money but they need permission.

Australia as an economy is a fraction of the size of the USA and China. Yet it imports roughly the same share of international arms by value as them. That's huge. Look at all the military shit the UK imports and we don't even make the list!

For countries like India, China and the USA being on that list is fine because they have massive domestic industries going as well, but the smaller countries there are severely dependent.

Saudis are the worst but Australia is almost as bad. The fact that Australia is above South Korea really gives the game away.

>>65724243
>I doubt it, most remainers will be tell us till they day they die "Im European, not British!"

That's a load of shit. You're pretending the tiny fraction of hardcore insane Remainers represent all of them. You need to interact with the real world some more.

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>>65719614
>>65719743

My proposal.

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>>65729335
Here's an updated chart for 2015. Saudis are #1 now. We can also see the UK there in 11th place. Source:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/11455304/Charted-the-worlds-biggest-arms-importers.html

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>>65730154
Exports for comparison

At least the devaluation in Sterling will help our defence exports....

>>65730206
>psst hey guys, need some war toys? :^)

>>65730206

Canada sitting pretty at number 10.

Our military may be falling apart but at least all the really sweet kit is going to the Saudis.

>>65730334
What do you export to the Saudis

>>65730356

A lot. Mostly armoured vehicles, that's kind of our specialty.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/06/15/canada-arms-exports-middle-east-saudi-arabia_n_10481662.html

We're the second largest arms exporter to Saudi right now, behind the yanks.

The really interesting thing is that the Canadian military is terribly underfunded, but we make basically everything ourselves. Australia on the other hand makes little more then the uniform on their backs but they have a way healthier budget and bipartisan support for military spending.

Basically, when Australia wants ships, they go to South Korea to build the hulls and then to the Spanish to militarize it before sending it to Australia for finishing touches. Low budget and short schedule.

Canada on the other hand will take 10 years to bail out whatever shipbuilding company on the East Coast and build it up again for the duration of the contract, to have the company go broke again when political infighting makes it so a next project isn't picked again for the next 10 years.

>>65730507
>We're the second largest arms exporter to Saudi right now, behind the yanks.

That's pretty impressive

>The really interesting thing is that the Canadian military is terribly underfunded, but we make basically everything ourselves. Australia on the other hand makes little more then the uniform on their backs but they have a way healthier budget and bipartisan support for military spending.


Yeah. You need higher budget to get proper economies of scale out of the Canadian approach, otherwise you're not left with much to show for your money. Although Australia's defence strategy isn't even low budget in the short term, it's more costly in the long term because they still need to build up all those industries.

Australia:
24.66 billion USD
1.9% GDP

Canada:
14.09 billion USD
0.9% GDP

The difference really is huge

>>65722021
One day, i really can't think of many here who would disagree, basically everyone has family and friends living in these countries

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>>65730029
Fucking disgusting.

This one off Google is way better

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>>65717384
Make it happen, and we can finally restore the Canadian flag to its rightful place and get rid of that silly leaf.

>>65717384
Fuck off, this isn't going to happen in a billion fucking years, over my dead body and the rest of this country

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>>65730029
>>65733394

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>>65730286
>>psst hey guys, need some war toys? :^)

pls send more F-35bs

>>65733526
Never ever.

Anyways they're deploying on the Wasp next year, so the Marines get to work out all the kinks that will probably happen when operationally deployed before they get to you, so be happy about that.

>>65731094
I suppose the saving grace for Canada is being so closely located to the US, no one will try and invade Canada without also having to deal with the US at the same time, kind of justifying the low funding.

Aus on the other hand is fucking miles away from any significant allies and are surrounded by Asian countries that have some stupidly high populations and militaries, so we gotta bridge that gap by staying on top of the military technology game courtesy of the US.

>>65717384
Immigration out of the UK to places like Australia and New Zedland wound far outweigh immigration to the UK or Canada desu
no thank you

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>>65733715
>so the Marines get to work out all the kinks that will probably happen when operationally deployed before they get to you

We've already got 4 of them.

>>65733931
Yeah, but there's a difference between that and actually flying them off a ship for 6 months straight.

>>65717629
speak for yourself

>>65733956
It's easy with ramps m8 don't worry.

>>65729335
I meant self sufficient as they can defend themselves against all reasonable threats in the area, not in import/export which Aus is fucking shocking at due to its low savings rate.