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>>55082790
Mexico vs USA??

Mexico wins in my opinion.

UK versus the whole world and Mars?

Brittania rule the galaxy in my opinion

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>>55083081
"From the halls of Montezuma..."

>>55083081
But France won wars against China, that is why we had colonies in Asia.
Mexico never won a war against USA.

Stfu Pedro

>>55083483
USA is overrated they had their asses kicked in Vietnam.

Mexico is a shithole but they can beat us that easily either.

>>55082790
If they were right next to each other France would get wrecked.

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>>55083624
Conventional warfare is America's domain. COIN, not so much. We destroyed Baathist Iraq in 3 weeks. Here, closer to home, we could invade and occupy Mexico City within 2 weeks. Now, that'd open up a whole can of nasty insurgency problems, but don't pretend you can slug it out country to country.

>>55083784

>insurgency problems

lol, Mexicans would be celebrating for weeks. The day Mexican City would be occupied would become a national holiday.

>>55082790
Mozambique vs Uganda?
Mozambique wins in my opinion.

>>55083784
If you use nukes yes, but if you don't use them it would be a little harder than that.

My grandfather fought the French in Vietnam in the 50s. Told me you guys were some tough soldiers.

Not sure why you would fight China. China is only able to project via ground forces in the immediate area. If France used their nuke subs they would win obviously.

Leichenstin vs Luxembourg

>>55084143
We could send girl scouts driving Abrams tanks and they would still annihilate you.

>>55083483
zhengsheng and indochialna (read: literally nothing).

>>55082790
France would beat most armies except maybe USA, Russia and maybe UK.
More like tied with UK

>>55084143
Your military is a disgrace.
No offensive capabilities whatsoever.

Your airforce and navy would be annihilated in a day.

It would just be a straight line drive to Mexico DF.

>>55084430
The would not beat China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, maybe south korea and some others.

In reality, France is very limited in offensive capabilities. any self respecting nation could repel a french attack.

>>55082790
>france
>win

>>55082790
All memes aside, france

>>55086133
Non. French military are pretty badass mate. Look at their recent adventure in Mali. Sure they had airlift help from the RAF, USAAF and some others but it was very very impressive as operations go and wars don't happen in a vacuum anyway.. They would provide the same for the British army if needed

>>55082790
is that a FAMAS

that's fucking dope bro, i used won in CoD XD

>>55087663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QDnB6dMAb0

Good overview of the Mali conflict

>>55083784
>le ebin counterinsurgency works meme

How many times are we going to try and fail before we give up? If you want to occupy a country you can't half ass it. If you don't have the stomach to do some serious oppression then don't start shit.

>>55087889
To be fair your middle eastern track record is better than russia's

non-/mil/fag here, why are the french jets so ugly and outdated looking?

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>>55088053
because you know nothing about the subject

>>55087825
Yeah I've seen that. I've known some legionnaires irl and the French have one of the most impressive militaries currently as well as historically too. The surrender meme triggers me desu

>>55088169
wat?
its ugly and outdated-looking because I don't know anything about it?

>>55084155
Except China has enough ICBM's to hit every French city above 50k.

>>55084187
Lux

>>55087663
>some Mali islamists are comparable to China

Okay m8

>>55088214
I think Niall Ferguson (not the most reliable dude in the world) said that armies from French lands have been the most successful in European history

>>55088415
You said Japan, S Arabia and south Korea tho... Idk about two of those (it would be messy) but the Saudis would surrender without a fight.
>>55088442
World history and yes.

>>55088335
Wikipedia says France has 300 nukes.

>>55087986
>

>libya
>iraq
>afghanistan
>syria
>somalia
>yemen

What?

>>55082790
China is too big

>>55088560
No I said this >>55086133

And you responded with "non"

Can China honestly win a war today?

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>>55088697
There's a huge anti-Chinese sentiment on 4chan because of weebs.

So it makes sense that some retards in here say that France would beat China.

>>55088610
And China has 150 MRIV ICBMs that can reach France.

France's subs would have to go to the Eastern Mediterranean to shoot off their 40-50 ICBMs.

How would China even fight France, they have practically no power projection (unlike the French)

>>55087315
>haha I know memes g8z !

>>55084371
U wot, Ottomania ?

>>55088789
What?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War

>>55088841
Well to be fair subs are intended to keep going when shit hits the fan. In a nuclear doomsday it doesn't really matter who shoots first...

>>55083081
>>55083365
Think we can't do it ?

>>55086133
>Japan, Saudi Arabia

C'mon

>>55088853
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2011/03/chinas_foreign_policy

Libya early 2011 seven Chinese naval ships sailed with to Libya, rescued 30,000 Chinese workers, and returned to China stopping only in Pakistan and South Africa.

This war is of course hypothetical and pointless since Chinese love France, but saying China has no power projection is a retarded meme.

>>55088853
even if they did they couldn't keep it up for long enough to actually dent france

>>55088913
It actually does. Greatly.

China would never shoot first. That's why they have so few "offensive" nuclear missiles.
The vast majority of their missiles are liquid fueled and therefore have to be readied for a few hours before they can launch.
Only recently did China create a boomer sub.

>>55089020
>Saudi Arabia
Spends around 30Billion more than France.
Has one of the strongest armies in the middle east, and an increasingly powerful presence in the middle east.

>Japan
One of the best navies. Arguably better than then french. I doubt france could beat japan, but I don't think that japan could beat france either. It would be a draw kind of thing.

>>55089178
i'll let military guys plan wars then.

>>55089118
What? The whole war thing is illogical because Chinese has no military interests in Europe. There's a reason they lack a lot of long range power projection, they don't normally invade random countries based upon "WMD" allegations.

>>55089243
Yes but
"Give me 10 jews and I could conquer S.Arabia"

>>55089259
A first strike takes out a large amount of C&C, as well as electronics, airplanes, and boomers that are not at sea.

>>55089243
SA is shit. They spend a lot because they buy super expensive toys and pay their men and mercs tons to not defect

Japan has a great navy and airforce. Better than France desu.
No PP though unlike France.

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>>55089243
>he thinks any modern middle eastern country is good at fighting
>saudi arabia of all countries

>>55089289
I meant they couldn't keep an offensive on france for very long

>>55089338
Israel could beat SA and then nuke Mecca.

>>55089408
The US would kick their shit lickety split.
But I can't say for France. France would have serious problem deadling with SA. I doubt they could take the country.

>>55089420
If they had a couple years to pump out ships and train soldiers and to build a friendly harbor in South Africa for example then yeah they could. China has the world's largest shipyards and most shipbuilders. Not to mention a fleet of normally private cargo container ships.
They could do it and would eventually win.

China has no reason to though. They are literally surrounded at sea by America and allies. That's what they care about fixing.

>>55089405
>Japan has a great navy and airforce
Uh, the Navy is good, but the airforce is mediocre, and rapidly aging.

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>>55089589
What are you basing quality on though? It's at least the equal of the French Air Force, which I wouldn't call mediocre.

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>>55089678
How would France manage to take SA?
tell me. What is there to believe that france could do such a thing?
Apart from policing african countries, what have they done?
SA has a population of 30 million. More than baathist iraq in 2003. Do you think that France can lead an operation on the scale of the iraq war. I doubt it.

>>55089712
Japan has more fighters than France. Even though an F-4 is old as fuck, the French are using some old as fuck fighters as well. The Japanese F-15's have a longer range than the Rafales. They also have good BVR missiles.

I don't see how France's air force would win.

>>55089901
Winning in modern day is killing the enemy airforce, navy, and SAM's.
France's airforce would do that if SA's airforce is any reflection of its equally well-armed but poorly trained ground force.

France's army would then easily defeat the Saudi shitshow of a ground force.

Look at the Saudi-Yemen war for reference as to Saudi capabilities.

>>55090112
>I don't see how France's air force would win.
Nukes

>>55082790
>France wins in my opinion.
Man, I completely agree. They even couldn't win Opium Wars Lol. They even can't win Korea I think. Their weapons are all fakes x)

>>55090112
>Winning in modern day is killing the enemy airforce, navy, and SAM's

That isn't true. American experience.

>>55084143
Your Army would defect in the first day of fighting. Then we'll make them build a wall.