>Be American kid with Aspergers >get shot http://www.

>Her mother, Stacia, who is in her 70s, claims that the shooting was not necessary and said her daughter seemed fine when she had spoken to her the day before.

>'They shot and killed a 24-year-old autistic, mentally ill individual whom they had been familiar with and were aware of her special needs.'

Women over the age of 35 should be sterilized so they can't bring more retard babies into the world

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Sigh.

Yeah the cops shot and killed a mentally ill guy from my town too. Same kind of thing...The police knew this guy already, the family called because this guy had schizophrenia or something and they needed some help finding him or calming him down, and the police shot 14 bullets into him.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article5167800.html

>Officers killed Shergill in a hail of gunfire after they encountered him in a park a block from his home on Elderica Way on the morning of Jan. 25. They approached him at the request of family members who reported he had left home in an agitated state, was off his medications and needed treatment at a psychiatric clinic. Relatives said Shergill, 43, suffered from schizophrenia and post-traumatic stress disorder.

>According to police accounts, the two responding officers, Corporal Scott Bratton and Officer Adam Lockie, found Shergill at nearby Peterson Park shortly after they spoke with the family. They told investigators that Shergill refused their demands to stop and talk, then turned and threatened them with a knife as they pursued him. The officers said they opened fire because they feared for their lives and the safety of Shergill’s family.

>They fired 14 bullets into his body; he died just steps from his mother’s home.

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I'm sure this is as cherry-picked as all the rapefugee shit, but from this side of the pond you really get the impression that US cops literally just shoot everyone they meet, be it criminal, victim, bystander, animal, whatever really.

>>54867465
But they do, I don't remember any innocent civilian killed by gunshot by police in Spain in my 26 years of life.

>>54867465
According to the FBI statistics, US cops kill about 400 people per year:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_14_justifiable_homicide_by_weapon_law_enforcement_2009-2013.xls

Not all states consistently send in their reports to he FBI though.

Also the Washington Post did a count and came up with 990 fatally shot by police in 2015:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/?tid=a_inl

And I don't know how WP gets their data.

>>54867305
>Implying that's bad
If only ours did the same....

>>54867373

>Her mother, Stacia, who is in her 70s

Reminder to not leave having kids too late

https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/why-autism-risk-rises-mom%E2%80%99s-age-study-may-shed-light

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>>54867305
this guy looks literally like me

>>54867305
assburgers on suicide watch :DDDDDDDD

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>Police went to house yesterday over suicide concerns and shot her dead

Fukken kek

>>54869046
LONDON
OO
N N
D D
O O
N N

>>54869046
>guy
That's a woman.

>>54867305
becomming a policemen in the USA isn't something you learn at a university. That's the big difference.

They only need to visit a short course. It's abit too much like in the movie Series "Police Academy"

Something something america doesn't have a gun problem it has a mental health problem.

What a good dog.

>>54867305
>>54867451
I kekd at the sperg getting tapped, but the schizo dying made me sad. I blame 4chan.

>>54870250
>They only need to visit a short course.
Source?

>>54870250

>eurorapes talking shit about stuff they don't know about again

also

>dailymail

>>54869046
Why would you admit to that?

>>54870250
You need a university degree to become a police office in Europe?

>>54870419
Your training is typically 4 months or something.
Bother to google it.

>>54870442
He's right fatty.
Your cops murder without repercussions.
You support them and pay for their damages.
You are the worst cucks.

>>54867451
He got want he wanted.

>>54867305

Shit, I am probably an aspie (no one in Russia can diagnose this shit properly) and hit myself like that all the time (only with both hands and much faster) - it helps me calm down overwhelming emotions. But I can control this, so I never do this when someone can see me.

Phew, at least I am not living in the land of the free and the home of the brave!

>>54870919
I'm coming over and I'm shooting you

>>54867465
>like rapefugee shit
Hello Ahmet

>>54870671
>Your training is typically 4 months or something.
>Bother to google it.
You didn't give a source.
Most departments require at least an associate's degree (2 years) in criminal justice prior to entering the academy.

t. Former criminal justice major

>>54870966

>I'm coming over and I'm shooting you

Just notify Daily Mail beforehand, that would make one hell of a tabloid headline!

>>54870671
>Your cops murder without repercussions.
They kill niggers and mental defectives. Boo-fucking-hoo.

>>54871045

To be a cop in LA all you need is a high school degree and no criminal record.

>be mentally ill faggot
>attack officer with knife
>get shot
Cry me a fucking river.

>>54871275
He didn't do nothing!

>>54871275

Why were they sending cops with no training in how to deal with mentally ill people to a house where the mentally ill person is trying to commit suicide? You wouldn't send a fireman to deal with a bank robbery.

>OH SHIT SHE HAS A KNIFE
>BANG BANG BANG BANG

Where the fuck is your trigger discipline you cunts?

>>54871092
I'm surprised over half the American population hasn't been shot by police already then.

>>54871455
Trigger discipline is for when you're not shooting.

>>54871272
>LA
Of course. And?
Oh, that's right. Yuros can't into federalism.

>>54871547
And cops don't have any, they go in with their finger on the fucking trigger most likely. Guns should always be the last resort, and a warning shot should always be fired.

>>54871092

They've killed whites before as well. Not even wiggers, they just kill some white innocent by accident (aka by being trigger happy) and nothing happens.

>>54871587
>implying cops in low-crime areas do this
Well, maybe they should live somewhere nicer.

t. Vermonter

>>54867305

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-asperger-shot-dead-police-article-1.2520902

He\She was also a trannie. Everyone missed this juicy detail for some reason.

>>54867305
>American police kills autismos
>American police not killing libshits, f2m whackos, commie shits and niggas (in big enough numbers)
meh

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>>54871548

> LA
> Of course. And?

You always get this from yanks, dismissing something and scoffing at it just because it's from LA or California.

Sure, I understand, in your minds it's a communist stronghold ready to rise up and shame the rest of you level headed folks. I realise that's a threat.

Nonetheless they are American, sure only a very very small part but still American.. still on the mainland.. still full of American people (Spics and niggers are the new American people), so when something happens there and you ignore it or laugh at it you should still remember that it's as much America as New york, Chicago, Dallas etc etc.

>>54867451
So, 14 doses of sleep eternal pills?

>>54867972
American Police killing just about anyone is a well known fact. They don't care about your colour, orientation and mental health. In a case of anything going down, what you don't want to, is having American police to show up.

>>54871548

I'm not saying that everywhere is like la, Im saying if LA has requirements that low there will be many other places in the US that are similar. Because, due to federalism, not every department needs to have the same quality of recruitment and training as the departments that ask for an associate's degree in criminal justice.

>>54871756
This kid that was killed is a m2f but you didn't mention that in your post.
Are you secretly into that disgusting shit?

>>54871852
>have the same quality of recruitment and training

It's not about recruitment or training it's about fucking punishing cops for using excessive force (with real and long prison terms).

>>54871639

So what you're saying is that cops should be able to kill not only people they see as a threat but also the mentally and economically inferior?

And you guys call us draconian.

>>54871947

Punishing the cops isn't going to change things much. Having a better recruitment and training process will. Also stop getting the justice system to deal with the mentally ill, that's just stupid.

>>54871947

> It's not JUST about recruitment or training it's about fucking punishing cops for using excessive force (with real and long prison terms).

ftfy

Proper training and recruitment is vital. If you hire a hot head, give him 5 months training and let him loose on the streets with a gun you are much more likely to get the problems America has than a proper vetting process and much longer training period.

>>54871924

Why include it when they clearly do kill m2f?

>>54871826
>Spics and niggers are the new American people
They've been here longer than most whites.
>Sure, I understand, in your minds it's a communist stronghold ready to rise up and shame the rest of you level headed folks. I realise that's a threat.
I'm actually pretty liberal (see: Vermonter), and I'm not a California hater. They just don't represent the rest of the country.
>it's as much America as New york, Chicago, Dallas etc
Those are still cities.

What's so hard to understand about the fact that laws and culture vary wildly between states and regions?
>b-but same language = no cultural difference
K

>>54871924
Xe was first and foremost autismus and every other thing came in second (and as a result of it). What Xe needed was help with his primary condition and everything else would iron itself out.

Bucky Angel should be put down.

>>54871947
russians should be experts on police corruption :^)

>>54867305
usually it's the sperg who's shooting up a school or mall

really they should all be put in camps, hopefully trump will get around to it by his second term

>>54872111

As far as I know, all memes about our police aside, they are much more restricted in the use of lethal force than burger cops.

They should make police have to do university degrees to get their jobs.

It would keep about 95 percent of the idiot police officers of the force, and in jobs better suited to them like garbage men and janitors.

>>54870639
In most countries in Europe a police education is 3 years of school at a university or equivalent + 2 years of being a trainee out in the field with a higher ranking officer.

>>54871953
>mentally and economically inferior?
Only if they become a nuisance.

>>54872117

Why would he put his own supporters in camps?

>>54871924
I know i am.

>>54872082

>They've been here longer than most whites.

Fair enough but not relevant to the topic

>I'm actually pretty liberal (see: Vermonter)

Oh, sorry, didn't realise that your region dictates your political stance. I must be a socialist, that's news to me.

> They just don't represent the rest of the country.

Of course not, I realise that but see: >>548718524


>What's so hard to understand about the fact that laws and culture vary wildly between states and regions?

Again, that's not the point I'm making. Nowhere do I say that LA is representative of other parts of America, merely that it is a part of America and therefore relevant to the topic and shouldn't be dismissed as hurr durr LA

>>54872187

Our police force is a bit like that nowadays except they fuck it up with diversity quotas

>>54872224
it's a night of the knives situation

spergs and losers are only useful when you're seeking power, not once you have it

>>54872187
>>54872194
>University degree
>University
>What is student loan debt

The only feasible way to do this is offer scholarships, but even then you'd see the amount of police officers dip dramatically anyways.

>>54872219

How was that white kid who opened the door with a wii remote in his hand only to get shot by a trigger happy officer (previously fired for being trigger happy) being a nuisance?

>>54872194
>>54872187
>federalism
That applies to many police forces throughout the country.
The other ones? Well, don't go there.

>>54872280
>offer scholarships, but even then you'd see the amount of police officers dip dramatically anyways.

So people who can't be bothered to educate themselves will no longer become cops, what's wrong with that?

>>54872263

But if he put the spergs and losers in camps he wouldn't have any supporters left.

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>>54872280
>He'd rather have psychopathic sadists who have had 4 months of training being police officers than actually educated people who have been vetted properly over the course of several years

Yeah, you really are American.

>>54872280
I dont know about your country but in Australia most police are too stupid to do their jobs properly and shouldnt have that much responsibilty in the first place...

You know those muscley body builder guys with shitty tattoos all over their arms and a bleach blonde skank holding on to their arms who walk around everywhere trying to be tough guys?

Those kind of idiots often work as police here.

>>54872342
We already have a "Not enough police" issue as it is, which is why these homicidal nutcases get in still.

I'd take a good cop over a shithead any day, don't get me wrong, but it isn't very realistic at the time being.

>>54872298
euros will never understand that there aren't things like an american police force or an american school system. their provincial minds can't comprehend the scale of the country, it's not their fault.

>>54870671

>the subhuman greek talks about paying
Police do get away with more shit than they should, but you're delusional if you think the majority of the kills aren't justified.

>>54872422
So raise the pay along with raised qualification demands.

>>54872298
>>54872427

Kek. We understand alright... We just think it's bizarre that you have to watch out not to wander into a totalitarian area of your own country where the police perforate people daily for fuck all reasons.

>>54872230
>not relevant to the topic
Then why did you bring it up?
>didn't realise that your region dictates your political stance
It's a pretty good indicator here, due to the political difference between states.
>merely that it is a part of America
But not my part, and, therfore, irrelevant to me and most other Americans.

>>54872427
really shows that the US is actually a third world country

>>54872288
By being a nerd.
Why was the cop there in the first place?

>>54872422

>We already have a "Not enough police" issue as it is, which is why these homicidal nutcases get in still.

I'd take a good cop over a shithead any day, don't get me wrong, but it isn't very realistic at the time being.

So instead of offering incentives and proper training and education you want to keep the status quo, because that is working fantastically.

the fact that you guys accept, as you put it, "homicidal nutcases" into the forces is astounding. The mind boggles

>>54871073
Let's be autism bros ))

>>54872410
Oh wow you shopped my state's best accomplishment, have a (You)

>>54872415
There is a good mix of competent and shithead cops here from all walks of life.
Sheriffs are pretty good all around though.

>>54872462
Pay kinda is an issue as well, and if you want to raise Police pay you have to take it away from something else or raise/more taxes.

Which is something not a lot of people want, even if it is good for us.

>>54872538
It's
Not
Realistic
Right
Now

>>54872507
Parts are. Don't go there.

>>54872465
we're more comfortable with the chaos and variety

yuros need for conformity and ordnung is the reason your societies will collapse under the weight of a few immigrants while america keeps humming along.

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>>54872565

>my particular slice of America is better than your country
>especially if you leave out any demographic that isn't 'white Americans'

RILEY IS THAT YOU?

>>54871548
Fucking idiot

>>54872479

>Then why did you bring it up?

I was mentioning the number and prevelance of them in LA which is a possible reason why you guys dismiss LA as quick as you possibly can. The amount of time they've been there compared to the whites, as you mentioned, is what is irrelevant to the topic.

>It's a pretty good indicator here
but not precise and a rather comical way of looking at it.

> But not my part, and, therfore, irrelevant to me and most other Americans

We are talking about American police so American police are relevant.

>>54872626
>b-but you speak the same language
My state is 94% white, and our minorities act white.

>>54872559

>Let's be autism bros ))

I am not falling for that, officer.

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>>54872605

>>54872605
>your societies will collapse under the weight of a few immigrants while america keeps humming along.

>Americans talking about society collapsing due to 'weight'

>>54872516

His dad had a probation violation.

>>54872689
>My state is 94% white

Flyover detected.

>>54872692
пoжaлyйcтa, я был диaгнocтиpoвaн

>>54872669
>American police
No such thing. Well, unless we're talking about the FBI, I suppose.

>>54872605

>we're more comfortable with the chaos and variety

yuros need for conformity and ordnung is the reason your societies will collapse under the weight of a few immigrants while america keeps humming along.

Yes, two oceans isolating you from 90% of chaos and instability in the world definitely have nothing to do with America's heroic resilience.

>>54872561
>It's
>Not
>Realistic
>Right
>Now

Ok, just carry on with the lacklustre vetting process, lack of education, and short training period compared to most of the other world and then laugh it off when more of your own people are shot each year than pretty much every other 1st world country combined.

> It's not realistic to have a trained and level headed police force

I would have thought that you Americans with all of your rhetoric about freedom, and being the world's biggest super power and stronger than everyone else would be able to look after domestic safety a little better.

>>54867305
Meanwhile Yurocuck police are some of the pussified faggots there are. They have to resort to concealing crime statistics committed by immigrants to avoid admitting they have a problem on their hands.

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>>54867305
>Land of the free

>>54872877
Hardly the police's fault that the political climate is like that in Europe.

>>54872781
yeah thats a huge part of it, and is overlooked way too often

one on hand the geography reinforces a certain individualism and inward focus, and on the other hand being america is like playing the game on easy mode and we can do any number of silly and counterproductive things without seeing significant consequences

>>54872782
Holy shit coming from a frog this is hilarious.

Your police are too scared to do anything about the refugees committing crimes in your cities because they fear looking like "racists."

Being a cop pays pretty well. Starting pay is like 45k in most places and goes beyond that in wealthy areas. I remember reading Austin, TX has salaries at about $70,000 after just a few years.

All in all it seems like an easy job for a lot of money.

>>54872752
>Complain about people referring to 'American police'
>>54872877
>Talk about 'European police'

Ehehe

>>54872718
Well, there ya go. Criminals shouldn't have kids.
>>54872741
>Flyover detected.
>Vermont
And? It's nice here.

>>54872945

proofs please

>o-our englightened and educated police would never do anything like this!

Yeah right. If I charged at a police officer holding a knife I'd be shot in any country where police carry guns.

That's exactly what the sperg in OP did.

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>>54872962
Different posters, dipshit

>>54867305
Fuck, I never realized you needed University to be a cop in Europe, we should try that.

>>54872926

At least our ICBMs keep you in check just a lil' bit.

>>54872990

So the mentally ill, the poor, kids...

You might as well make it a full pack and have your cops kill the sick and the elderly.

>Piece of shit bully
>with assburgers
>Tried suicide by cop before
Real tragedy

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/he-tried-suicide-by-cop-before.html

>>54873042

>phone poster calling anyone a dipshit

>>54873095

>he

Also why didn't they use their stun guns?

>>54873062
>suicidal sperg who tried to kill himself many times
>finally gets what he wishes for
>this is the polices fault

Yeah, nah. He wanted to die, so he got it.

Go back to covering up more muslim rapes, ali.

>>54873019
>Yeah right. If I charged at a police officer holding a knife I'd be shot in any country where police carry guns.

No, especially not in the context of the story in OP.. If you were mentally ill, they'd get mental health professionals in with police backup, and less/non lethal tactics would likely have been deployed, like pepper spray or batons..

That said, even mentally ill people eventually get shot and possibly killed if they remain a threat to police when those attempts fail, and in some circumstances police might resort to deadly force due to immediate dangers... All that considered, killing the mentally ill seems to be less routine here than in some US states. Don't you have medical professionals that respond to suicidal people and such together with LEOs?

>>54873042

I didn't say you were the same per sé.. It's just pretty typical of the /int/ experience.

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>>54873046
>russians actually believed 'star wars' was a real thing it played a role in them giving up their empire without a fight

oh man, i hate reagan, but that was a pretty good ruse

>>54873158
>Implying I was there
>Implying I'm an armchair expert
I don't know, and I'm not going to tell you how they should have done it like I know better.

>>54873169

Go back to covering up more stories of niggers killing white people jamal.

>>54873172


>No, especially not in the context of the story in OP.. If you were mentally ill, they'd get mental health professionals in with police backup, and less/non lethal tactics would likely have been deployed, like pepper spray or batons

Really?


http://mobil.berliner-zeitung.de/berlin/berlin-alexanderplatz-polizist-erschiesst-nackten-mann-am-neptunbrunnen,23785272,23536904.html?originalReferrer=


http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=cfe_1440199540

Your police do it too. They shoot mentally ill folk if they have a fucking knife coming at them.

>>54873321
>covering up more stories of niggers killing whites

yeah, no. That doesn't happen here.

You left out the part about charging at the cop with a knife, I wonder why

>>54873172
>they'd get mental health professionals in with police backup, and less/non lethal tactics would likely have been deployed, like pepper spray or batons
Not the American Way™ of doing things.

>>54873218
>them giving up their empire without a fight
They put quite a fight out there in Latvia and even shoot up their parliament.

>>54873455
people in europe sometimes charge police with a knife
they don't shoot them

>routine police check in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er7gzj0BbSE

>>54873426
http://toprightnews.com/white-girl-burned-alive-17-black-gang-members-arrested-media-silent/
http://patriotupdate.com/media-ignores-black-gang-kills-5-year-old-white-girl/
http://koco.com/news/police-arrest-suspect-in-connection-with-deadly-shawnee-home-invasion/31827954

Remember the time the media spoke out about these dindus?

>>54873370
>Really?

Yes, really. Especially in the context of OPs story, as I explained.. I also said that you would eventually indeed be shot, if you posed a direct threat that could not be mitigated with lesser means. Proportionality and all that..

>First German article about naked man with knife in fountain

From what I read the police responded with medical professionals present, and attempted to stop the man with less/non lethal means first. I said that police in the Netherlands (and apparantly Germany as well) ATTEMPT to do so.. Not that they're succesful every single time.

>The second video of German man being shot

Article said that police responded with medical professionals (ambulance), and that less lethal methods were attempted. Only when pepperspray didn't work, he was shot.. And he survived, at that. I couldn't tell from the blurred footage, but it seems they shot him in the legs. (he grabs his knee as he's on the ground). I believe in most US jurisdictions shooting for legs is not policy, right?

>Your police do it too.
German police aren't necessarily mine, but sure.. I never said they didn't though. I said it seems to be less routine to shoot them, and that medical professionals tend to respond when you call our 911 for insane people. Especially in a domestic situation, when people call about their own child or something.
>They shoot mentally ill folk if they have a fucking knife coming at them.

Yes. But if at all possible they will attempt to do anything to prevent a lethal outcome..

>vid related

Example of 'confused man' in the Netherlands, attacking cops with sword.. He's eventually shot in the leg, but survived.

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6638676/677db0d5/politie_020_schiet_verwarde_man_neer.html

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Dogs truly are god tier animals. Selective breeding can do wonders.

>>54871567
One, police-issue weapons have very heavy (~12lb) pull triggers, intended to replace a dedicated mechanical safety. This means that an officer who needs to quickly draw their weapon has one less step to be distracted by. Thus, it's pretty much impossible to fire one by accident or flinching.

>Guns should always be the last resort
They were dealing with a person who was armed, agitated, and who that had been specifically informed was mentally ill and unmedicated. What the fuck do you expect them to do? Try and reason with someone they know for a fact is unreasonable? Hope that they'll have a mood swing and calm down on their own?
The job of police is not to keep threatening people safe. It's to keep people safe from threats. If you call the police and tell them that you need help because there's an armed and angry mentally ill person, they are going to rightly assume that their goal is to protect YOU and others FROM the crazed knifeman, not that they should be protecting the knifeman from themselves.

>a warning shot should always be fired.
Firing a weapon immediately escalates the situation. To someone who's jumpy, panicking, or scared (i.e. most people in a situation where drawing a firearm is necessary) a warning shot is indistinguishable from a miss. It immediately ignites the fight-or-flight response and ends any hope of resolving the situation calmly.
A warning shot is only potentially effective with the element of surprise, as a means to shock someone who was unaware that a gun had been drawn into realizing the immediacy of the situation. Even then, it's as likely to cause panic as it is to help.

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>>54873534
>police arrive and shoot both

>>54873808
>The job of police is not to keep threatening people safe. It's to keep people safe from threats.

In America maybe.. In this country their first take is 'hulpverlening'. Helping those that need help.. The mentally ill are examples of those that need help.

>If you call the police and tell them that you need help because there's an armed and angry mentally ill person, they are going to rightly assume that their goal is to protect YOU and others FROM the crazed knifeman, not that they should be protecting the knifeman from themselves.

If you call 911 your mentally ill son, mother, husband, wife or whatever is having a fit, I'm pretty sure you're not calling for them to be killed... You call 911 because you expect medical help. That usually seems to be the case in these 'cop-kills-crazy in his own home' stories from the US..

>can't post webms with sound on /int/
Shit. I'd post the "DROP THE SCREWDRIVER" one.

>>54873780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWTLZ1RBW_c
Some are absolutely incredible. If you've ever seen a moose hound circle around a massive moose and manages to keep it standing long enough for you to shoot the moose. They are absolutely incredible. Dogs not used for hunting are pretty lame though.

>>54874000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=cOfJcYUlqjo

This one?

>>54873657
Can't make all them money stirring shit against both sides, can you?

Wait, you can!

>>54873808
>The job of police is not to keep threatening people safe

Actually, that is their job too (in normal countries at least). They had tasers for that.

>>54873981
>in America maybe.. In this country their first take is 'hulpverlening'. Helping those that need help.. The mentally ill are examples of those that need help.

Like locking them up or force feeding meds, right?

If somebody wants to kill themselves, they should have the right.

>>54871947
Right, let's punish our already understaffed and overstretched police force by completely removing any personnel involved in a highly subjective category of incident, specifically of a sort that's extremely controversial and subject to extensive media scrutiny and ongoing political debates between groups who are more than happy to completely misinterpret events if there's the slightest chance that they can use it to advance their position.

People like you, who call for blanket punishments on the party you've pre-determined to be guilty completely removed from any context, are the fucking problem. You have half an understanding of a handful of incidents and use that to justify passing judgement on a thousand events that looks similar. You're a reactionary, bandwagoning twit who's happy to substitute zeal for thought, and you are welcome to go fuck yourself.

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>>54874061
Freedom ain't free

>>54874061
Haha yeah, that's the one.
>OOOHHHH THEY KILLED MY CHILD

>>54874208

>Right, let's punish our already understaffed and overstretched police force

Your police force is understaffed and overstreched because your country is a fucking crime-infested shithole. Thing like having hundreds of millions of firearms in the hands of civilians or retarded "war on drugs" don't help much.

>>54873172
>If you were mentally ill, they'd get mental health professionals in with police backup, and less/non lethal tactics would likely have been deployed, like pepper spray or batons
You're looking at this from a backwards perspective.
The police value the well-being of bystanders and innocents over that of the aggressive party. In their view, they received a call informing them that their was a violent, mentally ill person putting themselves and others at risk. So, which option is preferable?
>send duty officers, who do not have mental health training, to contain the situation promptly, though they will likely resort to force since they are not equipped to handle interacting with the mentally ill
or
>procure a mental health professional and send them, along with an officer, to attempt to defuse the situation, leaving the mentally ill individual to threaten bystanders for a longer period of time while a specialist is located, and which may require force regardless if they cannot be reasoned with

Police will pick the first option every time, because the aggressor's life and safety is worth less than the life and safety of others around them. That's why any armed confrontation immediately turns from a minutes-long shootout into a days-long FBI siege the moment hostages become involved

>>54874061
what else could the police officer possibly have gone?
the man was armed with a lethal screwdriver only like 5 meters away from the cop

>>54874475
>coming from a russian

Your crime and homicide rates are much higher than America, retard. And you ban guns.

>>54874069
Tasers have a history of being less than effective against the insane or intoxicated.
Not that they're useless, mind, but when somebody's truly bugnuts they're more than capable of ignoring anything short of a perfect incapacitating hit, while a normal person would often be disabled even if the taser did not deliver an ideal, nervous-system-crashing shock, which is commonly the case if the prongs failed to fully penetrate or hit a location that just didn't convey the charge to the target's nerves as well as it should have.

>>54875056
Putin un-banned guns actually.

>>54875056

Don't compare yourself to Russia. Compare yourself to other 1st world countries with incomes and HDI similar to yours.

>>54875107

By that logic, he could have a bulletproof vest, so guns could have failed to stop him?

The police should have called in an airstrike, just to be sure!

>>54875216
Why not? We both have civilized and third world areas in our countries. We are more alike than you think.

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>>54871092
>He supports the state killing people, actively pays taxes for it and then is forced to defend it because he knows others are right and he can do nothing to change it.

>>54874475
They're overstretched because they're expected to do too many things in too many places that are too far apart, many of which turn out to be unnecessary (like being called to take statements after a fairly minor traffic accident, when the drivers could simply have taken a bunch of pictures with their cell phones) while understaffed.

They're understaffed because it's a shitty, demanding, thankless, and potentially dangerous job with mediocre pay and bad hours, which people will then proceed to give you shit for because their impression of you consists of news stories and traffic tickets. As a result of this, no politician wants to back additional funding for police because the public interprets that as rewarding shitty performance, which means the police can't afford to offer competitive pay that'd attract good workers until they somehow manage to get good workers.

So you end up with a shitty job with shitty pay dealing with shitty people that everyone hates you for doing, and what kind of person actually WANTS to do that kind of job?
Generally, either thugs who are happy to beat people legally, or martyrs. Sadly, thugs are more common than martyrs.

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>>54875556
>Russia
>civilized
you give yourself too little credit

>>54871547
>American cops
>Ever not shooting

>Attack police officer with a knife
>Get shot
Can't say I'm surprised.

>>54875602
As opposed to paying taxes for a police force that routinely covers up crime statistics by non-whites and massages the statistics.

Forgive me for not giving a shit about dead nigger thugs and mental defectives.

>>54875649
this tbqh
doesn't matter if the person wielding the knife is mentally ill, it'll kill you just the same

>>54867305

Omg I just realised this "victim" is apparentely biologically female and was trying to become male? At first I though it was the other way around.

I am kinda confused.

>>54875649
Simple logic tends to evade the open minded liberal.

>>54875638
It's funny you say that. Because despite having much higher fatality rate, I think on average it's something like only 10% of police in the U.S. EVER fire their weapons compared to 7% in most other European countries. Which is really weird at first, but when you looks at where the police are firing their weapons, you get a better picture of why they shoot to kill much more often, because police in the U.S. are trained that way in the case the suspect has a weapon on him.

>>54871272
It's so fucking strange how dIfferent the standards are in the U.S. across the country.

Albuquerque, New Mexico has a population of 290,000 and had police shootings last year.

New York, a city of 10 million people, had 8 police shootings

Clearly, police standards by state are not equal

>>54879321
26*

>>54872886
>>54871835

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/wapo-admits-vast-majority-police-shootings-justified