Japanese Thread / 日本語スレッド

私は判断するの神

2get!

>>54053005
だせえ・・・( ゜o゜)

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>>54053005
>>54053063
乙

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寒い。

I like HelloTalk its fun. The middle aged women I talk to are nice

Z

>>54053219
気遣い? 気違い?

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THREAD
MUSIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmwGLGrBgU8

>>54053005
乙

外めっちゃ吹雪いてるw
こんな日はこたつに入ってアニメをマラソンするに限る

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>>54053258

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>>54053258
>>54053342

>>54053361
そもそもこの統一性のない落書きボディーが嫌い
ベッカムはその末期

>>54053408
lol what? This guy is absolutely gorgeous. His tattoos make him even sexier.
Even the one that says kichigai

>>54053342
>>54053361
基地の方だったかー(´・ω・`)

>>54053408
also, none of his tattoos are finished. If you look at more pictures of him you will see they come together better and look more finished in recent images. Most people with tatoos like that are getting them worked on a little at a time

>>54053429
he has a case of vertical brit face to me

>>54053308
どこよ?
「お洒落な」石油ストーブが欲しい
あと「お洒落な」こたつも

>>54053456
まあ気持ちはわかるが外人の刺青は印象に残るもんが基本的にないよ。
良くてドクロとか死神とかそういうのだろ?

>>54053482
おおざっぱに言えば西日本だw

>>54053469
I don't know what that is, but if he has it, it works on him

>>54053521
西日本は今、寒波で大雪じゃないの?

>>54053174
その画像見て思い出した
帰りで新宿発9時ごろの電車に乗っていた
途中におばあちゃんがどっから来て俺の真ん前に立って
突然、キリスト教・イスラム・ユダヤ教は実は全部同じとか400年前(?)にテロとかあったとかムハンマドが日本にいたとか
大きな声でメチャクチャ説教し始めた
そしてやっと数分後、何気なく立ち去って行った

すごくシュールだった

>>54053607
そうだよ
東日本は吹雪いてないの?

>>54053521
似たような地域だけどこっちはまだ今の所晴れてる
風邪ひかないようにね!

(インテリアとこたつって両立しないのかな)

>>54053636
うん
ありがとう

奄美大島で115年ぶりの雪だってさ

>>54053581
Think Prince Charles.
My Grandpa has it to so there's got be something in that gene pool.

>>54053626
こえー…
絶対関わりたくないわ

>>54053689
そんな南の島まで
そういや台湾が60年ぶりの雪とかいってたな
もしかすると沖縄にも降ってるんじゃないか

>>54053408
クリロナは献血したいからタトゥー入れてないとしって惚れ直した ほんとかっこいい

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ミクさん

なんで日本語の罵倒語に性的な表現がないの?英語だとFuck youとか、中国語ですら我日你とかあるのに

いいことだと思うけどね

献血ってなんか怖いよな
50mlくらい採ったあたりで気を失いかけたことあるわ

>>54053626
おばあさまが立ち去った後の車内の空気を知りたい

>>54053736
In America anyway they don't prevent you from ever giving blood if you have tattoos. At most they make you wait a few months to see if you get hepatitis. It's a ridiculous restriction anyway. If you didn't get your tattoo in prison, there's no risk.

>>54053778
日本語は罵倒表現が少ない言語だと聞いたことがある。
しかし他言語の真の罵倒語を知らないので
なんとも言えない。

>>54053821
皆は携帯をいじったり何かを読んだりして
ほとんどばあちゃんが来た前と同じだったが
1、2人が隣の人に「あれは何だった?」などと言ってた

>>54053778
「ヤリチンガバマン」「穴姉妹竿兄弟」「この泥棒猫!」ぐらいだもんねえ
昔も「姦夫姦夫を重ねて四つ」だし
優しいよね

>>54053901
>皆は携帯をいじったり
実況はしてたのね

>>54053857
Do Japanese people really believe anyone with a tattoo is part of the yakuza? Even if they're white?

電車は怖い人が集まる所。

いつか突然知らない女の人に怒鳴られて、
驚いたけど、なんとなく視線が別の物を見てるような気がしたので、
そっと移動してみたら俺のいなくなった誰もいない空間に向かって、
そのまま怒鳴り続けていた。
怖かった。

>>54054039
ここと比べれば?

>>54053995
likely.
those who have a tattoo are sort of scary

>>54054067
甲乙つけがたい

>>54053995
I know Japanese people who want tattoos but are too scared of what their parents might think. Three people actually, and all quite young. It depends on the person really but some people seem to believe that.
I asked them all and they even have what they want all planned out. It''s cute.

>>54054072
Interesting. I just see them as annoying and lame. In America theres 3 types of people that get tattoos, people in jail, white skater kids, and white teen girls

>>54054097
時間帯にもよりますね。

>>54053995
No. However I have bad feeling with it.
If I had 卍 tattoo, how do you feel it?
Any countries have historical memory, isn't it?

>>54054121
そういえば夕方駅のホームで整列ジジイというのがいて、
「はい、並んで並んで。いいか、どうだ」とか言いながら、
ふらふらしている謎のジジイが毎日いたこともある。
害は無かったが役には立ってなかった。

>>54054179
I would say "wow he must be a Buddhist monk"

>>54054115
that's more interesting.

>people in jail
its very understandable.

>white skater kids
wtf

>white teen girls
yes, those who post their nudes.

>>54054276
全く関係ない人?
それとも社員?

>>54054304
White punky kids that want to piss off their parents get tattoos
>yes, those who post their nudes.
yeah pretty much, or they fall into the rebellious kids that just wanna be edgy and make mom and dad mad.

Never trust a girl with tattoos is the moral of this.

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アニメは面白いです

色々な事が起こっていますから

>>54054491
先生、今期はオススメありますか?

>>54054373
近所のオッサンだと思われる。
実は薄汚い格好をしてるだけの鉄道会社社長とかだったら、面白すぎてびっくりする。

>>54054375
I got the point, so people with tattoos are asshole.
I suppose its common to america and japan.

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>>54054537
松

>>54054375
What if your 58 year old aunt gets a tatoo of a butterfly on her ankle?

英検(°_°)

>>54054294
OK. I'll have 卍 tattoo when I go to America.

>>54054612
mental defect, dispose

>>54054618
英検3級の俺に読めない文章はない

>>54054491
GATE
僕だけがいない街
昭和元禄落語心中
少女たちは荒野をめざす
冬アニメけっこう豊作だよね

>>54054618
何級?

>>54054570
>松
え?
先生、わかりません!

>>54054612
Midlife crisis/menopause aka when bad women get worse

>>54054612
>mid-life crisis
>trying to be young again
It's sad when 40+ year old women get tattoos, belly button piercings, and start wear their 16 year old granddaughters clothes

>>54054697
おそ松さんのことザンショ

>>54054623
Id understand but sadly most people are retarded and dont know the difference

I just finished Kokoro and now Im reading Confessions of a Mask. What do you think about Japanese literature?

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>>54054697

あのひとはスーパー正解ですよ! >>54054712

>>54051035
ヤクザがいる「から」住みやすいんだろ、きっと

>>54054758
In Japanese?

>>54053005
所来に日本に働きたいですが、刺青があります。俺大丈夫なんですか?

>>54054790
カタギじゃなさそうな

>>54054798
No way I cant read for shit. Mishima is already kinda hard to read in English

>>54054790
個人的な経験ではヤクザはけっこう面倒見がいい

>>54054813
それに、今美術の学生なんです。イラストレーターになりたいです。

>>54054712
>>54054768
ありがとう。
ニコニコにあるから観てみます。
最新が14話ってことは2クールですか。

2015年度の英検1級の語彙の部分を解いてきました。
ネイティブの自分でも意味がはっきり知らない語は一個あったから、
これくらいの難易度に驚いた。
できる人は尊敬する

>>54054813
銭湯、温泉、プールは刺青お断りのとこがけっこうある

/a/によればニコニコは外人がアニメ視聴できないらしいんだけど、これ本当なの?

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>>54054855
いいね!

お楽しんでください!
女性チョロ松彼女が欲しです!

>>54054867
仕事を探すのは?難しいですか?

あと、読解にはひっかけ問題が何個もあるみたい。

>>54054842
刺青があってもヤクザじゃないんならただの一般人だから世話ないっしょ、あとでプール温泉に入れないってギャーギャー騒がなきゃおk
イラストレーターは知らね。日本語力高めとけ

英検

(1)The elephant is the biggest ( ) in the zoo.
1 person 2 machine 3 animal 4 language

2

>>54054898
出版社に作品を持ち込んで営業かけるしかないだろうね
イラストレーターならラノベの表紙や挿絵の需要があるから、そこ狙いがいいだろうね

>>54053361
To get tatoos is one of the fetishism of self-mutilation,
therefore I feel that the person who gets tatoos becomes not able to do self-control.

>>54054834
Are you just starting with Mishima?
I think Spring Snow is an easier way to get into him.

>>54054938
5 penis

>>54054919
今日本語を勉強しています。日本語能力試験のN3レベルです。返信ありがとうございます!

イラストレーターなら広告関係でしごとありそうだけども

>>54055011
五輪エンブレムのおかげで、コネの世界ということが分かってしましました…

>>54054987
Nah I read A Thirst For Love and a little bit of Sound of Waves. Spring Snow is the 1st of that 4 part series right?

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>>54054946
あれは何ですか?

>>54055042
Ye

>>54055068
Private Japanese lessons were a mistake.

>>54055006
イラストレーター一本はなかなか難しいだろうからエロcg沢山描いて沢山売りゅ

>>54054993
As expected.
Thak you for teaching me.

>>54054946
あの受かった人はどこ?

>>54054960
I understand your opinion, but I really suggest speaking to people who have tattoos. Getting to know them might give you insight as to whether getting tattoos is self-mutilation. You might think it counts as self-mutilation, but that doesn't mean that they don't have self-control.

>>54055101
You ever read a non translated version?

i'm gonna die of cold
tokyoなぅ

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こんなに降ったのか…

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一級でこれ?小5くらいじゃない?

>>54055191
I met a student from Taiwan a long time ago.
I remember he had never seen snow... I wonder how he's doing now.

>>54055177
No, the first book I started to read in Japanese was Kawabata's Snow Country, struggled through it for a week, realised my Japanese is way too shit and dropped.

>>54055006
寒いマジレスごめんね
刺青はやはり微妙に受け入れられ難い面を知っておいて下さいね
前提として刺青らしき物がチラ見えすると一般企業において難しい面は多々ある

だから「やめろ」と言うわけじゃなくて、もうね、徹底的に隠せ。
あなたの真価が評価されれば後々バレても社内的にはokになると思うけど、それでも顧客的にどうかというのは未知数。
これは差別がどう、という話とは一線を画して欲しいけど、そういう文化なんだよね。
誰もそれで893とは思わないけど、一般的にまだまだ「ファッション」として受け入れられていない部分が分野によって多々あるから
とにかく「隠せ」をまず言いたい

>>54055234
俺は小2くらいの英語力しかないから小5だったらすげーと思うなあ

>>54055281
まあ使いもしない難しい表現出すよりは実践的でいいと思うけどね!

>>54055242
>Kawabata's Snow Country
I'm a native but I've never read it from cover to cover.

>>54055234
まーたか

>>54055234
いいえ、今N3れべるです
日常のおしゃべりができます

>>54055281
>>54055308
あの例題に出てくるレベルの動詞や形容詞を英語で使い分けられれば、多分英検準1級・1級くらいのレベルじゃないかな?

>>54055242
Yeah I cant even read folk tales I have no business reading 1950s classics lol one day hopefully

>>54055313
I read it in Russian translation ages ago and thought it would be quite easy.
I was wrong.

Maybe the translator was a bad writer.

>>54055234
1)あけます
2)きしむ
3)こだわります
4)さっぱりする
5)はたらかせて
6)あざやかな
7)あっけなく
8)あやふや
9)あらかじめ

採点してください

>>54055250
寒むそう、気を付けてください!
そうですか、あなたの言葉を忘れない(＾ω＾)

>>54055396
6/9
これ答え書いた方がいいかな?
他にもやる人いる?

>>54055374
>多分英検準1級・1級くらいのレベルじゃないかな
Nope. The Eiken 1級 could not ever be passed by a native speaker in elementary school. One think I can think of is that a spanish-english bilingual elementary schooler might pass simply because he/she would be familiar with latin origin words, and could make very good guesses in the vocab section and reading section. But the vocab section in general, if you only speak English, has vocabulary you might not see until high school. A middle schooler might pass barely but a you'd have to have some high school to get a perfect score on that, judging from the level of the reading passages.

>>54055234
charge your phone

>>54055465
1) 明かします
一点上がるはず

>>54055499
>>54055374
So to answer your question, 英検1級 does not equal N1 level IF it's true that an elementary school age Japanese student could pass it. If that's true, then Eiken is a few orders more difficult.

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>>54055238
Reminds me at how often I see overseas travel blogs where Japanese people take pictures of squirrels, what's up with that?

>>54055168
>>54055250

Tattoo Psychology: Art or Self Destruction? Modern-Day Social Branding http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reef-karim-do/psychology-of-tattoos_b_2017530.html
>Adults with tattoos have been shown to be more sexually active than controls without tattoos.

ちょっと墨入れてくるわ

>>54055578
I would take a picture of a black squirrel cause black ones are extremely rare where I am from.

>>54055526
ごめん、7/9でした!
1は明かしますで合っているので、後1か所間違っています

>>54055564
The highest level of learning Japanese for non-native speakers is 日本語能力試験 Level N1, and it is said to be extremely difficult, and must memorize many kanji not commonly used in day-to-day speechv

>>54055330
先生、質問です!
シンガポールでもイラストのお仕事の需要はありますか?

>>54055578
http://www.thejapanguy.com/japan-fauna-no-squirrels-in-japan/
> I had an adult student once who said when he went to America and was taking pictures of squirrels, his American friends would ask him “Why are you doing that?”
lol

琴奨菊ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━!!

>>54055168
I think someone should stop the people who gets too many tatoos.
Perhaps it seems that they aren't careful of that.
http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2138797069866499901
http://www.madameriri.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/08-Top-10-Celebrity-Tattoo-Regrets.jpg

>>54055637
I know but I think some Japanese posters disagree about whether a japanese elementary school student. Some insist that it's possible and are very surprised at how simple it is. The question was whether N1 level questions are about the same as level one of the English test they take here.

琴奨菊おめでとう

>>54055578
I saw a squirrel only once in my hometown.
I told that to my parents but they never believed me.
That's how rare it is to see a squirrel for many people in Japan.

>>54055374
そうかもしれないね。
小5のレベルだったらもうペラペラではないか。

>>54055713
I think adults who aren't hurting anyone should be allowed to do as they please

>>54055578
Yeah I know...it's just a dirty rat in a fancy fur coat.

>>54055652
そうだと思います
俺の学校にはいっぱい学生がいますから (^^ゞ

>>54055775
まんがなら一発当てられれば億万長者だけど

>>54055499
The thing is that I've seen sample questions from N1 before, and they were more difficult than what was shown in >>54055234.
The above shown questions look simple, but I think that if you could tell the nuances of those words, I would assume your Japanese is advanced enough to handle something more complicated.

>>54055234
そんなに難しく作る必要はないしね
小5の方が日本語検定一級取った外国人より日本語うまいと思う

>>54055631
Give up です
教えてください

>>54055637
There are a couple of posters who have N2.
Their Japanese is so great that I would talk to them only in Japanese if I meet them in person.

>>54055637
https://twitter.com/AshS92/status/503987666313302016

これどう思うかね?

>>54055853
神だ、間違いない

>>54055820
Idk
I made a stupid mistake on #1 but I knew right away. But I still haven't taken n1 cause I am not sure I would pass it.

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日本語を上手になりたいんです。しかし、方法が知らない。
困ったな...

>>54055824
5) 活かして
が正解になります
活用して、ということですね

>Tfw Ill most likely never be Japanese N1 or even N2 for that matter
Why bother

>>54055890
日本語の本を読んだり歌を聞いたりしたらどうだろう
とにかく触れまくるっていうのが大切だと思う

台湾積雪でお祭り騒ぎだぞおまいらw

>>54055732
http://tattoo-navi.jp/street/

There are many people who gets tatoos in Japan.
Though, it seems that if someone becomes tatoo-holic, other people give him a advice.

>>54055891
I see. Thanks.

>>54055890
日本語のまんがをいっぱい読む
最初はドラえもんとかでいいだろう

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>>54055884
テストはテクニックもあるもんね。
TOEFL受けていた時は、勉強しなくても、受けるたびにスコアが上がったもん。

>>54055820
Q1. Haven't learnt what goes with ”秘密を”
Q2. Haven't learnt what noise the floor makes
Q3. I only know ”比べます”, "to compare", and I think it's the answer
Q4. No idea what goes with "あせ", haven't learnt
Q5. I think it's つかって?
Q6. No idea what goes with "色", haven't learnt
Q7. I only know "さっぱりと”, the rest not learnt yet
Q8. No idea, only know what is "あちこち"
Q9. Completely no idea, haven't learnt

Basically my Japanese level is very basic, I just took my N4 last year

>>54055853
こいつの他のツイート見てみてもネイティブと全く区別つかない
すげー奴だ

My cock is rock hard and I'm ready for some Japanese pussy!

>>54056232
oh Germany!

>>54056111
日本語能力試験のHpに載せてある質問は数年間更新されていないです。

生きる価値もない: 手コキ
子供が如く: 尻コキ
一般人: 足コキ
素人でない: 脇コキ
上級者: 膝コキ
マニアック: 髪コキ
人間卒業: 声コキ

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>>54056232

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by the way, here's what i'm currently learning.
1/2

>>54055907
Having a goal often helps you to keep your motivation up and continue your studies, though.

>>54055653
>wild monkeys
Ok, that's actually pretty damn cool.

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>>54056278
whoops the picture didn't get through.
2/2

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>>54055991
そうか。歌はちょっと難しい。最近私も小説が読んでいる。これはいい?
>>54056109
ドラエモンは読んだ。Yotsuba&!はどうですか?

should I buy a laser printer with duplex and print genki myself (printer is 33€) or buy the real books? (~80€)

>>54056267
>マニアック: 髪コキ

か、髪コキがマニアックだと…(´・ω・｀)

If I have a layover in Thailand on my way to Japan, and decide to get stoned with a ladyboy before I catch my plane.
Would I be considered a degenerate for entering Japan with the munchies.

I'm asking for a friend.

>>54056264
レベル変わってる?

>>54056287
It just feels so far away. Im a total beginner but still it seems impossible.
私は勉強していきます

>>54056345
本を読むと文法や単語を自然に覚えるからいいと思う!

>>54056404
Personally Id buy the book. Ink and paper will put you close to 60-65 euros id imagine. Book is nicer and lasts forever!

>>54056345
よつばと!もいいと思う

>>54056345
>小説が読んでいる。
ソードアート・オンラインが読めればかなりのものだ

>>54056556
お前の昨日からのSAO推しはなんなんだよ…

>>54056430
受けたことがないから分からないけど
受けてみることを決心したらどんな待ち伏せにあうかがたまに気になるだけ。
その問題が変わらないのはよい兆しなのかどうなのかも知らない。

>>54056556
ラノベ?

>>54056267
色フェチ・マンセル記号コキっていう勇者もいる

>>54056478
No, cartridge is included with printer and a pack of 500 papers cost like 3€

>>54056633
昔ふたばに貯精とか言うのしてたやついたよな

>>54056579
多分ADHDとかなんだろう

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>>54056459
ええ。私も同じように思う。
>>54056527
はい、今夜読もうつもりです。
>>54056556
SAOはベトナム語版がある。しかし、まだ読んでいる...

>>54056687
いや、ふたばを誰もが知ってるみたいな口ぶりで話すなよ
貯精もいきなり言われても意味不明だし

コミュ障?

>>54056660
I think youll need more than one cartridge to print the book. Idk about Germany but ink is like 15 dollars here lol

But dont you guys have print shops? I spent some time in Berlin and I saw a lot of office stores that printed stuff for like 30 cents a page

>>54056687
そうなんだ、知らなんだよ。ありがと。
>貯精
調べたら昔ツレで同じような事してたのいたなぁ。

沙羅さん?

>>54056407
髪の毛で尿道オナニーからだよね普通

>>54056872
>普通
そうかぁ、はやく普通になりたい!

誰かその落語のアニメを見てるかい?

>>54056758
It's a laser printer, they're good for 1500 pages or so
Fuck printing a book with inkjet lmao I'd die a poor man before I'd be done with half of genki

>>54056845
呼び出し?
認定?

>>54056934
hey are you the racial IT guy?

>>54056845
だね

>>54056948
What

>>54056929
見てるよ
今期はもう与太郎と小夏は登場しないの知ってる?
過去編だけで1期終わりらしい
落語心中の影響で落語を何本か聞いてみた
すごいよかったよ

僕の日本語はどうですか???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD4S4GIaJkM

今期の/a/ほとんどお通夜じゃねーか
紅殻のパンドラスレなんか荒れまくりだしよぉ
今期のアニメほんとクソばっか
ゆるゆり第4期はよ作れや

>>54057007
おひげがすごいです

>>54056934
lmfao oh shit my bad, just do the printer then

>>54056955
Im asking if you are the racial IT guy ?

>>54057091
Who is this, never heard of this persona before

去年暮れからの真綿でわかってないだろうが
今世界恐慌に突入してるからね
そんな時期に投入されるアニメの出来がいいはずないだろ

>>54057007
Every time I see somebody not on the news use 外国人 I think "What's that all about? Are you one of those 'the G-word' cunts?"

>>54057203
ゲイ?G=Gay?

>>54057203
what is G-word?

>>54057047
/a/は中学生の遊び場だから気にしないで

>>54057007
>>54057048
This guys channel seems nice. He speaks nice and slow, seems hes more focused on teaching English though

>>54057223
gayって言ったらだめなの!?

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>Forgot to get disposable chopsticks along with my sushi
>Forgot that I forgot to use the disposable Chopsticks that I got for yesterdays Sushi

>>54057285
You mean YOU CAN USE CHOPSTICKS??

今日寒いね。うん。

>>54057347
You're missing the point! He said sushi so possibly he can eat raw fish!

>>54056929
日本語聞き取れるんなら落語聞いてみなよ
志ん朝がいい
聞き取りやすいはっきりした日本語だから
火焔太鼓、芝浜聞いたけどめっちゃおもしろかったよ

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>>54057347
>>54057389

>>54057230
I'm referring to the foreigners who say that saying "gaijin" in Japanese is the same as saying "nigger" in English.

>>54057285
Sushi with CHOPSTICKS only a BAKA gaijin would EVER do that ahahahah

コンビニのばあちゃんが気に入りのタバコを覚えてくれました。


>>54057432
But when the Japanese on here get annoyed with foreigners they start to call them 外人・ガイジン・害人etc instead of 外国人.
It happens in real life too, people who are being considerate try not to say 外人 in general. So clearly its not the best word to use; if you do use it there's a reason, and its not necessarily a good one.

>>54057432
but 外国人 means foreigner……
it is not bad word

>>54057432
lmao god I hate that I have the same interest as whiny retards. Im so over hearing "japan is soooo racist" "xenophobic!" and seeing all the other clickbait youtube vids with similar titles

何だホモスレかよ(歓喜)

>>54057535
wait, 外人 is shortened form of 外国人
not same as ガイジン、害人

>>54057536
They insist on always using gaikokujin and never gaijin, that's the thing

>>54057586
I know that but consider a person who would normally speak politely to you. They would always pick 外国の方 or 外国人. Never 外人。
That's the point. There's a difference in politeness and it's not the difference in politeness that you might say close friends disregard. It's a difference in what word is appropriate.

>>54057571
お、Jか?

what's a Japanese word for nigger?
And don't give me some katakana version of it

外人 is rude. We only say if we have a negative opinion.

how do i become a gaijin, i want to be called a gaijin!

>>54057696
>And don't give me some katakana version of it

But there is no Japanese word for "nigger" that is not katakana. 黒人 (kokujin) means "black person" but this is not rude or bad name.

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>>54057701
Just stop being a chink

>>54057700
?
it might be less polite
but not aggressive
we sometimes call foreigner 外人さん, right?

>>54057752
I mean I already have round eyes and Jew nose and shit.

>>54057740
Why is your vocabulary so cucked?
Every language has a proper own for for filthy niggers and all you can come up with is ニッガ

>>54057203
>one of those 'the G-word' cunts
Any normal Japanese person without an agenda will tell you that 外人 is not as acceptable as 外国人. So making people who are smart enough to notice nuances in people's word choice out to be sensitive cunts is silly to me. You might benefit from consuming less media about Japan on the internet cause it always leads to these strange non issues being blown up in a weird way. People do not worry about which word to use. Polite people know which one to use and they use it. Anyone who picks up on this and insists on being referred to respectfully is not a bad person.

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>>54057740
This seems offensive lol

>>54057641
I think it's not necessarily that 外人 is impolite, but that westerners just aren't used to the idea. There's so many people of different races and countries here that we never need to call people foreigners.

>>54057811
shut up 白人

>>54057812
It most certainly is impolite. I see what you're saying and I understand the idea. At first both 外人 and 外国人 sounded like silly words to me, but I now know that one doesn't imply any ill will and the other does.

>>54057548
At the least they're just really really ethnocentric, like attributing random bullshit to the fact that they have "pure japanese" blood and that by implication everyone else is inferior.

>>54057804
Maybe worsen your japanese?

>>54057810
For me gaijin = black, gaikokujin = African-American
AM I WRONG?

>>54057889
Im pretty sure its not cool to say African American anymore. Ive heard people go on about how they are just American. Most people I know prefer black and say black

>>54057889
Yes but in this case, you're wrong because you aren't up to day on PC language in America. Black is the correct term, not African American because not all people whose ancestors came from Africa are American. And not all people with dark skin have ancestors from Africa. But this isn't a difference in which word is polite in this case. It's an issue of historical accuracy.

>>54057889
It's absolutely wrong

>>54057873
That would actually work but I'd still be a jap inside.

>>54057928
>>54057940
I'm so behind on my Politically Correct American newsletter

>>54057889
african-Anerican is black
but black is not always American

>>54057964
cut out the inner Japanese via seppuku.

>>54057971
I wouldn't expect you to be up to date on it cause you are not living in America. That's fine. But the point about 外人being an impolite word stands. And it doesn't correspond to a choice between black and African American. It's a choice between a word which everyone knows is not as socially preferred as the other.

>>54057971
Youre Russian so its ok, once you guys stop beating gays in the street youll start accepting blacks

>>54057964
People dont care about the real inside.
Its about your outside appearance (including your charasteristics)

>>54057783
But in this case, さん makes it more polite.

>>54058098
no
it makes it less polite

>>54058125
what?
are you Japanese?

>>54058009
Tell me this then
I watch street interviews with Japanese people, they talk about dating or wanting to date a foreigner, about having foreign friends and colleagues, they use 外人.
So they're being rude about their own partners and friends?
Even on comedy shows they mostly use 外人, every time they imply that they hate the Johnny foreigner?

>>54057783
Sounds passive-aggressive.

>>54058098
no it just makes it sound like you're making fun of them

what are the strongest insults in japanese?

I know you have stuff like 貴様 but that's still more about disrespecting and not attacking/insulting someone's entire existence and family like son of a bitch/whore does
or in german we have words like Missgeburt (~miscarriage/abortion)

where is justin bieber ?

mmmmm
while I was studying in shanghai I was surprised that jap female classmates saludate me first , even when we didnt have meet before

for example I was talking with a friend and a japanese girl (classmate) I had never talked before went to my location and said " hi (my chinese name) , why didnt you came to class yesterday"
she seems wanted to start a conversation but nothing to do with jap girls so I ignored her , later she left

similar situations with another jap girls
kek , strange

>>54058098
sounds like youre teasing them. passive aggressive cuteness

ohayo
bakayaro
konoyaro
butayaro

Is this correct?

More polite >>>Less polite

外国の方>外国人>外人>外人さん>ガイジン>害人

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>>54058180
What does Yaro mean? I hear it a lot in my Animes when boys talk

>>54058170
it is odd
外人さん is obviously more polite than 外人

>>54057989
You lost the point

>>54058160
I don't know but I never said it implies hate. I said that there's a polite word to use and there's an impolite one. That doesn't mean that the people who say 外人 don't know this societal rule. And just because there is such a rule doesn't mean everyone will follow it all the time.

>>54058170
>>54058178

It is funny that American and Canadian wish to tell me what it is like.

>>54058193
外国の方>外人さん>外国人>外人>ガイジン>害人

>>54058180
bakayaro konoyaro

>>54058207
はァ?ふざけてんじゃねぞこの野郎、ぶっ殺すぞこの野郎

>>54058221
no, you're just a troll
if you are using さん on something other than someone's name or job title you're doing it to tease

>>54058207
Yaro means like asshole, bastard, or son of a bitch.

>>54058193
>外人>外人さん
not correct

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>>54058221
I would say no

Its the same as saying Mr nigger

Imo by using a polite prefix it makes it come of as an acceptable term which obviously pisses of someone that does not find it acceptable

アイエエエエ! ニンジャ!? ニンジャナンデ!?

>>54058286
?
Well youd be saying it to us, so we have a right to interpret how it comes off.. Im just saying it sounds a bit condescending.

Regardless I dont care what you call me I was just saying how others might feel.

gaijin = Jew, gaikokujin = Jewish
AM I WRONG?

>>54058160
just look at the kanji and you literally get something like "outsider"

you can use this in a hurtful or neutral way as if it was an objective fact, I think the thing to concentrate on is the "Not Japanese" aspect of it

>>54058381
This is a much better example lol

>>54058313
彼女さん
子供さん

>>54058395
Correct me if I'm wrong, but lately 'Jew' is quite acceptable, no?

When I was child, I thought that 'Gaijin' meant Americans.
Because I didn't know foreigners except Americans.
I wonder when I learned about the concept of Gaikoku-jin.

>>54058341
I call my pussy Miss Nigger sometimes
she seems to like it

>>54058367
It is like you are trying to educate me about Japanese language.

>>54058287
this
I hate ガイジン、害人 so I don't use it

>>54058405
実際にさんをつけて無礼だと思われてしまう外国人はこれからこう嘘ついた荒らしさんの責任ですよ。

>>54058381
Seriously though 99% of the time we don't mean anything negative by saying gaijin and it can even have a positive connotation, like some Japanese girls are like: kya~ gaijin? kakkoi~!!

>>54058504
That's exactly what I'm trying to say!

>>54058381
well, american pc doesn't apply to japan
i'm not sure your using american example is appropriate or not

>>54058432
I wasnt being condescending I really think this is a good example for your side. But context matters I think. Like someone wouldn't appreciate me saying "Arent you a jew?" but I see 'Jews' a lot. Depends on how you say it as well, pitch and tone

gaijin is the same as jap

if you don't like being called a jap then don't use gaijin

>>54058480
No I didnt mean it that way, just saying how it would appear to someone that cared about that sort of thing.

But also isnt it common knowledge that calling someone ちん disrespectful when they are an equal or just an acquaintance?

> 害人
There is not such a word (w

>>54058345
nin nin

>>54058521
But we don't say 'gaijin in the oven'!

>>54054491
魔法少女まどかマギカ
PSYCHO-PASS
DEATH NOTE
ブラックブレット
BLACK LAGOON
あの日見た花の名前を僕達はまだ知らない
カイジ
ジョジョの奇妙な冒険
コードギアス反逆のルルーシュ
ワンパンマン
進撃の巨人
寄生獣
東京喰種
攻殻機動隊(途中まで)
>>54054646
誰かに英検準2級までは高校生でも取れるよと言われた。
ちなみに俺は準2を
高校生で合格基準点+1点のギリギリのラインで受かった(笑)
>>54054842
俺も美大に行けばよかった・・・涙

>>54058567
This. Cause even though we tell them sometimes people don't mean anything bad when they say jap, they get super pissed off when they are called a jap.
Same here. They swear it's fine most of the time and that they don't mean anything bad, but what matters is how the person on the receiving end feels.

>>54058567
actually I don't care as long as they don't use that word to hurt us
many people call us Jap in this thread

At the end of the day, if some hot chicks wanted to swoon over me being a foreigner and called me 外人ちん I wouldnt give a shit. But if some jerk off at a bar called me one Id probably get in a fight. Its all context and tone really

>>54058605
I mean I was trying to say for half of this thread what you said here
>Seriously though 99% of the time we don't mean anything negative by saying gaijin and it can even have a positive connotation, like some Japanese girls are like: kya~ gaijin? kakkoi~!!

I'll make new btw

>>54058586
I made the word yesterday.

>>54058627
very good animu taste

>>54058567
nah, it's more neutral
it depends on the context

>>54058653
what 外人ちん mean ?
ちん is dick?

>>54058701
He means "chan"

>>54058653
>Id probably get in a fight
Wow, words really HURT you

>>54058699
So you get to decide both how jap and 外人 are interpreted? No. If you get to say jap is more neutral than gaijin, then you are basing that on how you feel about being called jap. So foreigners should get to make that decision in the same way. How bad gaijin is should be up to us not you

>>54058701
Typo
meant ちゃん
>>54058725
Nah I dont really care but if someone was outright talking shit I woudlnt let him continue. Id do the same thing in America if someone was intentionally being a dickhead

>>54058778

>>54058778

>>54058778

>>54058694
I admit

>>54058496
すみません
言ってる意味がよくわかりません

>>54058754
Do you use Xe and Xir?

>>54058180
te konnu

the only phrase i know french is this

learned by a french movie

>>54058854
No

my gramma often says Gaijin-san
it means like Mr.Jew, Mr.Jap
Grampa call Italian Itako

>>54058854
>>54058899
Not automatically. But if someone I met asked me to I would try. It doesn't cost me anything to refer to people how they asked to be
It's just polite.

>>54058899
So you don't care about xeir feelings?

>>54058930
If somebody asks you to call or not call them a specific word it's understandable, but that wasn't the point of the debate.
>Not automatically.
that was.

why not just call people by their names instead of gaijin san

>>54058997
But in this case foreigners don't need to ask, cause like this thread has shown, and like I've said a few times, it's generally known that 外人 is less polite than 外国人. So unless someone is genuinely in doubt about whether someone prefers to be called the more polite one or the less polite one, Japanese people shouldn't wait to be asked to use the more polite phrase. They can safely assume that no reasonable person will take offense to 外国人 and that at least some reasonable people will take offense to 外人

>>54059060
友達や同僚などすでに名前を知っている人に対して外人さんとは呼ばないだろう
想定している場面が違うんじゃないですか?

>>54059243
>talk to a person in japanese who speaks english

>>54059390
あ、はい、すいません

波紋‼(発砲)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z1Hz11rvt4