why are east slavs so ugly?

>>54012134
Finnic genes, up to 40% in NW Russia

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>>54012436
>Finnic

hmm? they kind of look similar
the brow ridge, the round cheeks, the bigger nose and skull is just dimorphism

what makes the slavic women "angelic" is the same for the slavic men

>>54012134
that guy is way more prettier than me and u call him ugly? k. thats k bruh.

also, bulgaria? i thought we was a friends

>>54012436
no no bro donts mess this. its not like russian and finnish its like finnish and russian is same mix. asian and white (not like op said, but white asian and pure white). we mixid with tatars (european mongols which is pure white asian) and finns mixed with eskimo.

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>>54012134
>slavs
>ugly

pls

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>>54012134
Russians are ugly because of radiation, not genes.

Radiation destroyed them not only on a genetical level but on a mental level as well.

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>>54013390
how hard she cucks him?

>>54013816
>>54012134
youa re really think we are ugly? k. bruhs. k.

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>>54013854
PLEASE DON'T COMMIT SUICIDE! I KNOW IT'S HARD.

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>>54013844
who this?

>>54012134
Their features just don't look very good on men

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>>54013854
they are khohols

>>54014063
Doesn't look good on anybody. Unless you like anime looking people.

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>>54012436

Nice try but the closer you get to Finland, the lighter and prettier people get. Muskovites are barely Finnic at all but look like pic related.

All slavs are ugly in general and have a similar look too, and its got nothing to do with finnics.

Russian women are the best in the world, but men generally aren't very attractive.

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>>54014288
Finnics look retarded too and you're partially to blame.

>>54014347
makedonians are gypsies inbread with arabs so you aren't really the one to talk lol

>>54014477
i thought we were edin narod? either way you have even more gypsies and turks than us, balkanites in general are ugly as fuck and they have huge noses

>>54014347
>Russian women are the best in the world
They're not.

>>54014518
He's not a Bulgarian.

Putin looks like my cock

>>54014518
+30% of your country is turkish Alexandropolous, get a grip
>>54014554
yeah to cold and have an alchohol problem

Slavic Ryan Gosling?

>>54014725
how is alcohol problem and coldness relevant
in appearance Russian women are like the best in Europe
or do you prefer manchin german/nordic women or swarthy manlet french women

>>54014367

Thats from Tornio, theyre lapps. Thats like saying east slavs are ugly, heres a picture of a macedonian to prove it.

If russians are so mixed with us, why is it that I can spot a russian 100% of the time btw? They just stand out.

And yes I know youre the russiaboo huehue whos probably gonna go all anthroautism up in here too

>>54014725
яж ми хyя

According to most sources all Slavs descend from 1 single village in Ukraine which did not breed with outsiders for thousands of years. Slavs are xtremely inbred which causes them to prefer squatting to sitting because in this proto-Slavic village chairs were unknown.

>>54014765
it means they have shit peronalities
>>54014776
wow didn't know greek alphabet was so simular to ours

>>54014904
щe ти ибa мaйкaтa цигaн

>>54014967
>ибa
pretty sure they say eбaм as well

Who gives a shit how slavs look, deep down they are shitty people anyways.

>>54014772
Finns are weak, scrawny and always look nervous, that's why.

Confident Finno-Ugric = Russian

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>>54014765
Russian prostitute are cheap. But their bloated vodka faces is disgusting.

>>54014765
The pictures of Russian women that you see on /int/ are cheerypicked.
>alcohol problem
Have you seen a face of an alcoholic?
>coldness
Cold is bad for your skin.

>>54015144
ive stalked russia for hours on google maps they are not cherry picked
also big deal plenty of people in balkan are alcoholics too, and if cold is bad for your skin why are african and mediteranean women apes while slav ones are attractive?

>>54015130
desu you nitpick the worst, in reality the best rusky womyn are better than best germanic ones by a mile

as are bulgar ones, and romanian, and brazilian....

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>>54015082

Top kek, Finns are like 10cm taller than Russians on average.

lol and how does Bulgarian men look different than us? You also got the slavlook except you're also dark like turks.

>>54015082

>weak
>scrawny

Most olympic medals per capita though and taller than Polacks, Ukies and Ruskies.

>>54014877
You described Finland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_heritage_disease

>>54015218
Yep.

>>54015241

Heritage disease is a regional phenomenon of the north. My Karelian ancestors never went through a genetic bottleneck and don't have these diseases.

>>54015216
USA stronk
>>54015241
and this is why when u think of cute pure white maidens u think of glorious norway and not swedeland/finland

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>>54015241

Nice try, Finns have seventh least birth defects in the world.

A lot less than slovenians

>>54015358

Would be the least in the world if not for N. Ostrobothnia. Just look at Sipilä the guy has like 10 extra chromosomes.

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Why do croats, slovaks and slovenes sometimes have this Hun look? Are they Attilas sons?

>>54015410

Yes, we have Kuusamo which is the hotbed of inbreeding

>>54015435
more like italian look, you can tell from the greasy as fuck hair

>>54015481
kusi haha

>>54015358
More than Russia, lmao

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>>54014747
you're asked for this

>>54015589

Yeah but thats all of Russia, including all the minorities and everything. Same reason why Russians would seem to have less aids than estonians, the minorities bring the average down so ethnic russians dont look that bad.

>>54015677

Is this what average st petersburgians look like? The stp poster here looks a lot like that, also as handsome

>>54015714
>st petersburgians
nah...he is from ukraine
mix of local slavs and maybe some lithuanian blood (maybe its reason why you thought about StPb )

If the Slavic expansion didn't happen Europe would be 1000 years more advanced. Slavs never contributed even a single thing to western civilization. Imagine if Goths and Finns got to keep eastern Europe and make ebin tech without bydlo retards ruining everything.

>>54015435
because we raped their women for hundreds of years

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>>54016377
>Slavs never contributed even a single thing to western civilization.

>>54015435
avars in our case
>>54016440
shut up you landlocked cuck

>>54016489

I hate Slavs so fucking much. Every Slavic country is a violent and depressing shithole full of criminals, alcoholics and moron nationalists who are proud of their ancestors being a human locust.

>>54016580
What's her name?

>>54016580
>violent and depressing shithole full of criminals, alcoholics
sounds like finland

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>>54016529
>cuck

croatia is the definition of cuckdom, the magyars, ottomans, venetians, austrians, serbs cucked you for a thousand years m8

>>54016580
there there, I'm sure Oksana didn't mean it when she said your dick was too small

>>54016580
>Every Slavic country is a violent and depressing shithole full of criminals, alcoholics and moron nationalists who are proud of their ancestors being a human locust.


you just described finland, peka

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>>54016771

Yeah but Finland is like slav countries lite. You guys are pure unadulturated bydlo concentrate.

>>54014288
>Nice try but the closer you get to Finland, the lighter and prettier people get. Muskovites are barely Finnic at all but look like pic related.

I think Finnic was meant in the sense of Finno-Permic. This is correct, Russians substantially descend from linguistically Slavicized Finno-Permic peoples whose remnants still survive in the Volga-Ural region.

Finland is at the western edge of that world and its people certainly have less of the original Finno-Permic ancestry than speakers who remained closer to the Urheimat (perhaps even less than many European Russians).

>>54012134
t. T*rk in Bulgaria

>>54012134
>>Implying indians are ugly you virgin faggot

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>>54017176

So why are Russians even closer to the original proto-indo-european Yamna than we are then? If theyre just finno-permic.

Finnic is just Finnish, Veps, Ingrian etc

>>54016692
delete this

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>>54017176

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Permics have Turkic-Mongol admixture and Mordvins are quite Indo-Iranian influenced.

That means Karelians and Veps are the purest Finno-Ugrics. North-Eastern Finns are not very Saami but they are severely inbred and don't represent the true Finnic racial type in it's full Kalevalaic glory.

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>>54017352
Fit significantly improved with Nganasan, Samoyedic-speaking ethnos from Taimyr. While it probably arrived in Fennoscandia in already admixed form, this is the component that most clearly differentiates even western Finnic peoples from their nearest neighbors today. We can thus for the purpose of argument treat it as a "tracer" for Finno-Permic ancestry prior to Indo-European admixtures. It is inferred to be somewhat higher in Russians than in Mordovians and Finns.

>>54017909

I wonder whats up with Maltese people though? What le fug? Youd think theyd be way too neolithic to score that high

>>54017909

Samoyeds are a recent mix of Europeans and Siberians. Their N1b haplogroup is rooted in the Volga-Baltic region just like Yakut N1c is and they carry excess EHG admixture compared to Yukaghirs.

European N1c and N1b have been in Europe for at least 7000 years and possibly up to 12000.

Permic people like Udmurts and Mari don't have excess pseudo-Samoyedic admixture they have Turkic Mongolian admixture from the last 2000 years.
IMO the Siberian admixture in Finnics comes from 1. the initial arrival of N1c carriers 2. mobile nomadic groups who lived in the bronze age who were genetically similar to the iron age samples from Altai and Urals which carried European N and R1a but had pseudo-Samoyedic admixture.

>>54018117
Well the second panel is basically showing goodness of fit. Maltese have something other than "EN", "WHG", "Yamnaya", and "Nganasan" that prevents model from accommodating them well (if you look at the proportions you see they are consistent with having 0% Nganasan). probably something else from the Middle East

>>54017909

Those aren't really the best fits though, for one exaple Chuvash is more similar to Finno-permics, improves that fit considerably more than Nganasan (page 126) and they have no actual permics or saamis in the set. Nganasan appears even in Basques which makes it a pretty bad tracer.

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>>54014288
>the closer you get to Finland, the lighter and prettier people get
uhm, no

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Because of no hair culture, of course. I know one really handsome bloke (no homo), but he has that stupid prison 90-'s hairstyle like a picrelated. When I have told him he can have a different hairstyle and he would get more girls because of that he said that, "My guys would not understand this." and that this is gay.

>>54014704
Small?

>>54018272
What ancient skeletal samples would you select for understanding Finno-Permic (and more broadly ancient Uralic) expansions?

Aren't the linguistic connections proposed with Yukaghir now thought to be outcomes of contact and non-genealogical?

And in your opinion does the spread of Seima-Turbino phenomenon have any probable linguistic correlates?

>>54018529

what if "Nganasan" in Basque is because all of Europe was once inhabited by Finns? did you think of THAT?

>>54018777

There are no ancient DNA samples relevant for Uralic expansion that I'm aware of although some of the RISE samples from Allentoft et al are peripherally connected, I think.
Seima-Turbino is called phenomenon for a reason since no one really understands what it was all about. Whoever operated it was allied with Sintashta Indo-Iranians since they were in the same archaeological sites so that might suggest it was an IE thing.

>>54019267
What I'm asking is, if it were up to you, what skeletons or cemeteries would you want to analyze for ancient DNA?

>>54019682

Anything from Kazan/Nizhny Novgorod after 2000 BC, before that hunter gathers who lived in Perm and Urals. Finnish N1c age estimates suggest that we lived there as late as 800 BC.