>no right to free speech, hate speech laws out the ass and

>>53742880
>smokeless tobacco is banned

is that a thing?

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>get shot

>>53742880
Australia is like that one retarded kid you knew who's parents put covers on the electrical sockets at home and made him wear a helmet.

Ausfailians are LITERALLY treated like fucking children by their government.

>>53743012
>who is parents

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>>53742960
>a fucking leaf
>go to court for making fun of feminists online

Australia seems all right and everything but jesus christ their government's in full nannymode I mean do they seriously not trust each other enough to endure the occasional violent movie or game? It's fucking stupid.

>>53742960
Australian deception detected

>>53742880
>need a helmet to ride a bicycle
>bad thing
lmao, bet you were 2cool4school ameriman

>>53743071
He was acquitted hos
This is a free country and you can sue anyone on any stupid bullshit, that doesn't mean it will go through
Yanks aren't ones to talk about frivolous lawsuits

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>>53742880
Waiting for the bite

>>53742880
Shittiest internet as well

>>53743134
No because I'm not a retarded child in the eyes of my government. If I want to ride a bike without a helmet that's my own right.

>>53743172
No you dumb fucking chink. It wouldn't happen here thanks to the based 1A.

>>53743266
Oh, then why is not wearing a seatbelt against the law in America? :(

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Who the fuck wants an airsoft? I shoot .22 on a countryside when I was a teen.

>>53743397
It isn't in my state :^)

>>53742880
Sounds like you're generalizing lad, I'm sure you will find US states which have some, if not all of those same laws.

>>53743504
>US states where you don't have freedom of speech or the right to protest
I'm sure.

>>53743504
Outside of Jew York and Califailia not really.

The problem is that those laws are all federal-level in cuckfailia. In America by far most of the nanny state bullshit is on state-level. Drinking age being a notable exception.

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Interesting, tell me more
>implying youre not the same aussie with american proxy who ive called out on many times and who couldn't even produce proof of being american

>>53743638
careful, if he really is an aussie he could tell the government you offended him on the internet

>>53743425
Woah, so you live in ONE of 51 states where it's legal? Holy shit, I'm blown the fuck out!
I suppose I can stop being memed on for Muslims because I'm from Northern Ireland, where we have an extremely low population?

>>53743696
Most states have secondary enforcement for seatbelts. The poloce cannot pull you over for simply not wearing a seatbelt. Go away bong

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>>53742880
>FUCKING RUBBER DUCKS ARE BANNED

>>53743773
Only in 18 states you silly yank, one quick search told me that.
Stop lying to avoid looking like a moron.

>>53743880
it doesn't really matter what's legal and illegal in other states though. you live in the state you live in.

>>53743880
Good thibg I live in a free state.

Like I said. Your nanny laws are on a federal-level. Go away Britsharia.

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>muh american freedom curfews

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>live in commiefornia
>medical marijuana prescribed for ""memory loss""
>small town police don't even bother me anymore

>>53744089
>pretty much seldom enforced

Sadly your helmet laws and whatnot are not the same.

>>53743951
Yes, and many people live in NI, Scotland or Wales and you assume they all abide by english laws - when that is not true.
Hell, gay marriage isn't even legal in Northern Ireland. Gonna just stop assuming that people with this flag are able to be fags?

The majority is what counts you ameridumb.

>>53744089
>minors under 18

>>53744224
>The majority is what counts you ameridumb.

I agree with everything else, except this.

>>53744224
you clearly don't understand the scale of the generalizations you're making if you think this.

though I have no doubt not everyone in scotland and wales follows british law to the t. you may be confusing me with another poster.

>>53742880
>calls out merilard on bullshit laws
>hurr not on muh state

why is this allowed?

>>53742948
Not in Australia

>>53744182
>medicinal cannabis prescribed for focusing issues

nice

>>53744358
>not understanding the concept of states

>>53744358
Because ausfailian laws apply to every state in the country, while seatbelt laws are on a state by state basis.

Compare apples to apples dumbfuck. Cite nanny American laws on a federal level, not state basis.

>>53744358
Individualism is an impossible concept for yuroçucks to grasp. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

It's their right man, if a law exists in a particular state it's because the majority support it in the first place.

>>53742880
You've got us all figured out.

brb moving to america right now

>>53744696
>Trump needs to build a seawalll now

Fuck off were full.

>>53744394
>>53744427
>>53744428
It's impossible to argue with you people. If I bring up anything many other american posters you'll just say 'Not me', 'Not my state', 'Not my race'

You paint Europe as some sort of liberal, SJW, muslim Caliphate, when muslims are still a huge minority in most places, and many countries still have right-leaning governments. Hell, when I went to Scotsdale I saw more spics in one week than I've seen muslims in my life.

You Americans make sweeping generalisations about Europe - a whole continent - and then think that your states are a big deal? Seriously?

>>53742880
About a quarter of these are downright lies. About half of them are half-truths and the rest laws that are never enforced.

>>53744791
t ahmed mahmafuckyourkids

>>53744791
It's just /int/ man, try not to take it too seriously. All of the issues discussed here are exactly the same from all varying points of view, there is no uniqueness.

It's better if you just play along and joke with us. No one actually believes this shit.

>>53744791
But most of your retarded laws and nanny statiness happen on a federal level in Europe.

>>53744861
don't worry your kids are too ugly

>>53744791
>getting mad about yuromemeing

>>53744228
As opposed to 40 years old minor, I guess.

>>53744934
Same with America. Your president can bypass Congress at any time.

>>53744861
>florida
t. Fidel Castro

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>>53744791
>United Caliphate

>>53742880
Sounds like a paradise t b h, minus the free speech laws and gun laws
>no laser pointers
No degenerate prankery and tom-foolery
>no rubber ducks
No degenerate child-manipulation idolatry
>novelty lighters banned
No senseless and trivial items
>smokeless tobacco banned
No disgusting chewing tobacco
>need a helmet to ride bicycle
C'mon, that's a law here, no one abides it and no one cares
>plain packaging on cigs
Good, no sense trying to manipulate people or devise propaganda about it
>absurdly high taxation
Good, less degenerate smoking and drinking
>Violent games and movies banned
Excellent, less degeneration for the children, no point in filling your mind with that garbage
>Vidya
Video games is the ultimate form of degeneration, completely isolating yourself from reality and just watching the world burn around you. Sickening
>no self defense
This sounds like bullshit. Is australia the last bastion of the white man?

>>53745009
>same with america

Yeah, nah. Apart from the drinking age and >muh kinder eggs what other nanny shit do we have on a FEDERAL level?

>>53745009
at least we elected the president. enjoy being held down by merkel while ahmed penetrates your ass.

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>>53742880
>america
>land of the free

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>>53745053
>m-muh degeneracy

>>53745053
>muh deegeeeeneraaaaaacy

lol go away

>>53745031
t tornado victim

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>>53745100
>

>>53744934
>But most of your retarded laws and nanny statiness happen on a federal level in Europe.
Care to provide an exemple ?

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>>53745100
right back at you cuck

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>>53745128
>theres no degeneracy in the world

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>>53745100

>>53745192
Sure.

Your draconian gun laws are on a federal basis, same with your hate speech laws, or your extremely high income taxes, taxes on alcohol and tobacco, etc

>>53745167
>tornado areas
t. chester cletus

>>53745086
We're literally - literally - free to hold a referendum at any time to leave Europe. There is absolutely nothing keeping us here. If things get too bad, we will simply leave.

>>53745233
>james bond wannabe

>>53745265
That is entirely wrong and all of those things varies from one EU member to the other.

>>53745297
I like to imagine right after the referendum, the UK just floating away from europe into the atlantic

>>53745357
>federal level

AKA ON A COUNTRY LEVEL. Dumbfuck. Not talking about the EU

Are you saying that Frances retarded gun laws or hate speech bans only apply to the province where Paris is located?

>>53745299
>implying I would buy a PA
>implying that's my picture

>>53745285
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/01/17/at-least-one-dead-as-storms-tornadoes-slam-southwest-florida/78929310/

They don't only hit central Florida.

>>53743012
They have switchers on their sockets, you know.

>>53745297
The E.U sorry, not Europe.
Bit late here lads.

>>53745233
$3.99 for a fucking kinder egg? You got robbed pal

>>53742880
Not even mentioning their low as shit copperband internet?

>>53745484
>you

>>53745460
>mfw st pete
peninsula on a peninsula masterrace really, we never get tornados or hurricanes here

>>53745484
It's because it's a foreign product.

Just like you guys get robbed with Amazon or Netflix.

>>53745233
>Bad boy

>>53745456
>a country's government decides the countries laws
WOAH, WOAH, WOAH. STOP THE FUCKING PRESS.

not every country is as big as the U.S yank, it's simply easier to have a countrywide law than to split a small country like france up into 50 provinces.

>>53744427
Wrong, Australia has seperate state and federal laws

>>53745651
I know that, but the nanny shit I mentioned are federal laws.

>>53745610
So if a frenchman wants to have free speech, where can he go? Is there a part of his country where he has free speech?

>>53745701
Many of them are lies and stretches of the truth.

>>53745456
The world you are looking for is : national

Considering European countries don't share the same type of governement, and that the only federal thing that could apply to all of us is the EU, you are the dumbfuck here.

First of all, all laws are not on the same level and we also have laws that only applies region-wide, but that's mostly about small details anyway. Second of all, guns are accessible, although regulated, and you should let that ebin meme die, because considering the huge number of hunters we have, at least in France, you'r clearly wrong.

Finally, the hate speech thing. If I say "nigger" out loud in the street, there's no special hate speech brigade that's going to put me in chains and lock me up. This kind of law apply for the public sphere, and more particularly, the media.

So, yeah. You don't know what you'r talking about.

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>>53745711
We don't all need free speech cages.

>>53745847
>implying I said all laws are the same or that all of your laws are country-level
>implying your extremely strict gun laws and bans in hate speech don't apply to the whole fucking country

Go ahead and try to burn a koran while wishing death upon all muslims. It's banned in France.

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>>53745594
>implying that's my gun

>all these foreign fagerinos crying about a gun that's not even mine

>>53745771
Yeah, no.

Your gun laws apply to the whole country, ditto with helmet laws (not enforced in NT) Hate speech ban applies to the whole country.


Airsoft is banned across the country, you need a firearms license for an airgun.
Smokeless tobacco, novelty lighters, yoyo waterballs and the rubber suck thing are on a federal level: https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/bans

Taxes out the ass on alcohol and tobacco are applied federally.

Plain packaging is federal

Stop lying cunt

>>53746083
Oh and any laser pointer over one milliwatt is banned federally. So you only have the happy meal shit left

Any games or movies banned are also on a federla basis.

>>53745944
>implying I said all laws are the same or that all of your laws are country-level

I was just explaining how the different levels works, but ok.

>implying your extremely strict gun laws and bans in hate speech don't apply to the whole fucking country
Never said I didn't. By the way, do you have anything else to say or are you simply going to talk about these two things all over again ?

>Go ahead and try to burn a koran while wishing death upon all muslims. It's banned in France.
Ok, let me explain something.

In the way we conceive things, society can be divided in two seperate spheres. The private sphere, and the public sphere.

The private sphere is your sphere, you can do whatever you want, as long as its in your privacy. This includes burning books, if you like it this much.

The public sphere is the one you share with the other citizens, and you can't do whatever you want because that's a common sphere. Which is also one of the reasons why we instaured that law against the burka some years ago : the public sphere does not tolerate such an obvious religious sign.

Generally speaking, everything religion related is banned from the public sphere, anyway.

Austrlalia >>>>>>>>>>>>> Usa

>>53746359
So in short you have no freedom of speech publically. You have say it in private.

Fucking KEK

>>53745484
>Yuropoors

>>53746389
Amazing posting skills friend.

You absolutely blew my country out of the water and convinced the globe with your hot opinions.

We will be retreating back to isolationist policies because of that sick burn.

We are giving up even being a country anymore, mexico can have us.

I am going to kill myself now.

>>53746409
Well, no, you can say what you want, but people have the legal right to see the police, same way people can press charge for insults.

Like I said previously, this almost exclusively apply to the media, the only people who go to court for insults are politics. Same goes with the hate speech, it's something media people and politics do, not regular people.

>>53743121
the first problem came about because australia had no 18+ rating, with the highest rating being 15+ meaning if it wasn't good for 15 year olds then no one could play it.

the government remedied thay by introducing the R18 rating, meaning it's 18+ but kept the same members of the review board. they basically introduced slightly wider acceptance and benefit of the doubt to people who were already dismissive and prone to disliking violence so you still get the occasional violent game denied classification. However, the two areas that really shit them off is sexual violence and graphic drug use.

hope that helped :)

>>53746359
So, basically, no freedom of speech?
That's the one thing I'll stand by with America on. They take their freedom of speech seriously, and certain European countries and Australia have done a very good job of brainwashing their people into accepting what they have as real freedom of speech.

>>53746597
So in short you have no right to free speech and you can go to court over "hate speech"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_France

You even ban holocaust denial.

Your free speech rights are garbage.

>>53746741
>Like I said previously, this almost exclusively apply to the media, the only people who go to court for insults are politics. Same goes with the hate speech, it's something media people and politics do, not regular people.

Is there some part that isn't clear ?

>>53746736
Refer to >>53746597

>>53745053
>Excellent, less degeneration for the children, no point in filling your mind with that garbage
Hahaha, are you that same Canadian extreme puritan? Shit, dude, you sound like a crazy rambling hobo. Luckily, to society, that's all you'll ever be!

>>53746831
It's a matter of principle. In your country there are opinions you are not allowed to express.

>>53745568
>Netflix
lol what
No they don't

>>53746831

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/france-arrests-dozens-hate-speech-charlie-hebdo-returns-first-issue-since-attack/

Fuck off Ahmed you liar

>>53746831
Refer to >>53746937

>>53746900
>In your country there are opinions you are not allowed to express.
in the media.

That goes for every country in the world.

>>53746937
Besides being a year old, the article doesn't mention any arrest, yet you posted it, wich makes me think you didn't even bother to read it before call me a liar ... I don't know if it's pathetic or just hilarious.

>>53747070
Refer to what I just wrote.

>>53746083
Your problem is that you're bringing up laws like "whistling on a Tuesday" and making out like they're relevant and enforced laws.

Helmet laws aren't enforced in the NT? Try literally anywhere. I've never seen anyone get pulled over for not wearing a helmet while riding a bike.

Noevelty lighters? Give me 10 minutes to go to the shop and I'll buy you a novelty lighter. The waterballs thing? Again, you've told a half-truth. In fact, you've told a lie. They're not outright banned. Same with rubber ducks. Fuck me, here's a link from the Toys R Us catalogue where you can literally see Rubber Ducks on sale: http://www.toysrus.com.au/infantino-rubber-duck-assorted/

Taxes on alcohol and cigarettes? We get taxed pretty highly on everything. This in turn is compensated by a high median wage (fourth in the world). I can't complain when I was getting paid $30 an hour to stack shelves when I was 16. These taxes in turn support our high living standards, which is why we're second in both the HDI and the IHDI.

Basically, you're misinformed. You're not entirely wrong on some issues, but you certainly aren't as well read on them as you believe.

>>53747161
https://theintercept.com/2015/01/14/days-hosting-massive-free-speech-march-france-arrests-comedian-facebook-comments/

Stop lying pierre.

>>53747161
>That goes for every country in the world.
There it is. See? That thing I said about you being brainwashed into thinking that what you have is standard freedom of speech?

>>53747306
So you realized you looked very stupid and found another link, I see. Well, I don't think you've read that one either since it mentions something posted on a facebook wall, for everyone to see. A public post, on a social MEDIA.

It just confirm what I'm saying. In the media, you can't say whatever you want, especially sympathy towards a terrorist not ever a couple of weeks after he killed people.


>>53747364
Can you read my entire posts, or do you suffer from extreme ADHD ? I said you can't allowed certain opinions on the media and that this goes for every country in the world.

>>53747197
>Helmet laws aren't enforced in the NT? Try literally anywhere. I've never seen anyone get pulled over for not wearing a helmet while riding a bike.

Yeah, no. Just because you didn't see it happen does not mean it isn't enforced.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/why-police-booked-cyclists-22000-times-in-the-last-four-years/news-story/b59ffe39b4ba60f2eabb53cf2e2a2c53

Lying cunt.

>novelty lighters

The toy looking ones are banned.

https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/973479

>yoyo waterballs

Also banned


https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/981256

Your country is a massive fucking nanny state. Learn to accept it.

>>53747730
Can you not read mine? I'm calling you out on the fact that that's not true.

>>53747730
>y-you can't say it in public

Like I said your lack of free speech is laughable.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/france-arrests-54-in-hate-speech-anti-semitism-crackdown/article22442506/?service=mobile

Fuck off cuck

>>53747733
>Yeah, no. Just because you didn't see it happen does not mean it isn't enforced.
It's certainly not enforced where I live. Can't speak for places I don't live, I guess.

>Also banned
As long as yo yo waterballs have certain measurements, they're fine. They're not banned.

>The toy looking ones are banned.
You can link me to product safety all you want, I can literally go buy a novelty lighter right now if I went to my closest shop.

>Your country is a massive fucking nanny state.

But it's not. For the most part, you're just going to productsafety.gov.au and ignoring the parts where they say 'X is not banned as long as X meets the following requirements' and you just post "SEE, I TOLD YOU IT WAS LE BANNED! XD". You've come undone lad. You've embarrassed yourself on the main stage.

>>53747808
>>, you can't say whatever you want, especially sympathy towards a terrorist not ever a couple of weeks after he killed people.
>In the media, you can't say whatever you want,
>In the media
>media

"media" is the key word here. Every link you post is about the same thing - the same even -, public facebook (a.k.a social media - here's the key word again ! -) posts.

>>53747801
Oh really ? So your tv journalists could just start yelling sieg heil on live and nothing would happen ?

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>>53747993
>certain measurements

Then eggs are not banned in America either because we can have pic related. You basically ban the most fun ones and are only left with the extremely neutered toys.

Not how it works cunt.

>i can buy a toy novelty lighter right now

Then go ahead and do it right now. Poat results.

Like I said, Cuckfailia is a massive fucking nanny state. If something poses the slightest bit of danger in your cuckhole, it's either banned, heavily taxed or heavily restricted.

>>53748140
lol what an unfree shithole

>>53748140
They wouldn't be arrested, probably just fired from their networks.

>>53748140
you can say sieg heil as yourself as much as you want on the media.

if you're representing an organization, they can fire you for expressing opinions that misrepresent them, but it's not against the law.

>>53748216
Does it hurt so much just to admit you've had a false conception of what our hate speech laws are ? You can't know everything and you can be wrong sometimes, it's not a problem.

>>53748230
Yeah, well, here they are fired, they stand trial and, if convicted, fined. I guess you could argue over the necessity of the fine, but there's no jail.

>>53748252
Politicans are never fully themeselves, neither are journalists ... at least that's how it works here.

>>53747197
Also the average wage in cuckfailia is 20 dollars.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1169%26context%3Dcommpapers&ved=0ahUKEwjO3OjAgbLKAhVBymMKHR2tBw4QFghBMAk&usg=AFQjCNH50ozi9RDKfsCw7EuA6gZlCItixg

>>53748490
No not really. I was not wrong.

Basically you cannot express certain thoughts and words in public in France. It's quite unfree.

Glad I live in a country with free speech.

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>>53748490
>standing trial, being convicted, and being fined for expressing your opinion

>>53748490
>I guess you could argue over the necessity of the fine, but there's no jail.
Sorry, still a solid 0 out of 10 on the freedom of speech scale.

>>53748174
Firstly, please don't say 'cunt'. I know you're only typing it, but Americans saying cunt is the most cringeworthy thing in the world.

Second, the closest shop to me is a 15 minute drive away. You can just take my word on it, or not. I don't really care, but it doesn't change the fact that I am objectively 100% correct on that point.

It's became apparent that you don't even want to debate though. For whatever reason, you just want to argue which is funny because I'm one of the few people on this board that actually DO want to properly debate points with you.

Personally, the only restrictions that I disagree with in Australia are video games and movies. I believe that, with perhaps the exception of snuff films, all films and video games should be available to the public. In saying that, only a total of 16 video games and 9 films are banned, and many of the games are available on Steam to purchase in Australia. They're the only laws that piss me off, to be honest. Ones on things like 'Yo-Yo Waterballs' that require certain measurements, or on laser pointers that literally just ask you not to shine them in people's windshields and shit, I'm fine with.

To each their own, I guess. I can't really complain when I live in one of the best countries in the world by most statistical measures.

>>53748620
Americans do say cunt. It just carries a lot more weight here. That dude's actually insulting you.

>>53748670
Americans saying cunt is laughable. Ever hear an Australian say "dude"? That's how we feel when you say "cunt". It sounds so forced and unnatural.

>>53748591
I guess

>>53748582
Well, I'm glad I live in a country where I don't have to pay hundreds of dollars to see a doctor, a country where I can drink outside, a country where I don't have to start active life in debt.

Priorities, I guess.

>>53748591
I suppose ignoring the most important part of my argumentation and quoting this chunk of phrase with a witty image makes you feel smart.

>>53748819
is the most important part that there isn't jail time? it still isn't freedom of speech.

>>53748722
It's not a dudebro word here, it's not slung around on a daily basis.

A man calling a woman a cunt here is the verbal equivalent of dropping two nukes on the japs.

Women from all around will assault the man and drag the woman away to a battered womens shelter and call the police.

A man calling a man a cunt is fighting words.

Did you know that Australia is much better than USA?

>>53748620
>im objectively correct

Like how you claimed helmet laws wrre not enforced?

Basically your logic is: "WELL I'VE NEVER SEEN IT HAPPRN HERE SO IT'S FALSE"

This doesn't negate the fact that your government treats you like a fucking child in a ton of ways. It doesn't negate the fact that your country is quite nanny state.

Don't believe me?
https://www.ipa.org.au/publications/1926/new-poll-more-australians-agree-we-are-becoming-a-nanny-state-70-think-food-tobacco-alcohol-plain-packs-ineffective

Your living standards are the highest in the world, sure. But you essentially live in a padded room with excess regulation on individual freedom. The highest living standard in the world is absolutely meaningless when I'm free to do fuckall.

So I'll take a slightly lower living standard and enjoy a far higher degree of individual freedom than vice versa.

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Interesting thread.


I shall not interject into this fine discussion

>>53748819
>pay hundreds of thousand to see a doctor

Your meme would be true if it weren't for the fact that the vast majority of Americans have health insurance. Stupid fuck.

I'll give you drinking outsidr though. But alcohol here is much cheaper than france, plus I can still smoke indoors in bars in my state. Shit is cash.

>>53742880
Fokin rekt

>>53748620


>Ones on things like 'Yo-Yo Waterballs' that require certain measurements, or on laser pointers that literally just ask you not to shine them in people's windshields and shit, I'm fine with

Actually the laser pointer law is that any pointer over one miliwatt is illegal to own and use. kek.

So you are basically stuck with the kiddy shit.

>>53746465
Ok, lets put some facts here.

Australia:
Never occupied anyone
Didn't make any war crimes
Didn't destabilize ME
Didn't provoke mass wave of migration in Europe
Didn't withdraw white minority in its own country by niggers, spics and obesity
Didn't destroy USSR and make homicid in Serbia and Russia
Still doesn't accept migrants from Syria
Doesn't tolerate homos and pedos
Doesn't produce fake brainwashing movies about how they won WW2 and how good is blunda up
Has 1st world living standarts and most of millionairs live in Sydney
Doesn't put anyone in jail for Wiki leaks and joke-tier reazons

USA:
Yes

>>53749092
>lists a bunch of awesome stuff the US did and reiterates that aussies are shit

Good to see you have come around.

>>53748850
The most important is that

>standing trial, being convicted, and being fined for expressing your opinion

is different from

>standing trial, being convicted, and being fined for expressing your opinion in the public sphere, through the (social)media, which is clearly a space conceived to touch a large number of people.

Call it unfree if you want, but at least know what it is really about.

>>53748980
Yeah, they do have health insurance but they don't cover everything and left very important things out. Some alcohol is cheaper, some isn't, and my point about student debt still stands.

Like I said, if you'r fine where you are, that's good.

>>53749092
>Didn't destabilize ME

The US has never destabilized you either

>>53749179
Well no. Obviously it doesn't cover all the costs. But the maymays about having to pay hundreds of thousands for care is a meme that the vast majority of Americans don't deal with.

Rather you make up your costs for healthcare in france with ridiculously high income taxes.

And alcohol overall is cheaper in most states here than France.

Anyways this has nothing to do with freedom of speech in France being really shit.

>>53748921
>Like how you claimed helmet laws wrre not enforced?

No, that I can literally go and buy a novelty lighter. That's something I can go and do, regardless of how many product safety links you give me.

>https://www.ipa.org.au/publications/1926/new-poll-more-australians-agree-we-are-becoming-a-nanny-state-70-think-food-tobacco-alcohol-plain-packs-ineffective

Every country thinks they're becomming a nanny state. Go look at the Facebook comments from Americans on any article about gun control. The US is going down the toilet and into the control of libtards, according to them.

>Your living standards are the highest in the world, sure
Yes.

>But you essentially live in a padded room with excess regulation on individual freedom. The highest living standard in the world is absolutely meaningless when I'm free to do fuckall.

But we're not. You're going out of your way to find things that are banned. Meanwhile, the State of World Liberty Index has us ranked 8th in the world, ahead of the USA. Now by no means is that an objective ranking, but pretty much every rankings of freedom available has Australia somewhere near the top. For example: https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2015/australia

We nearly ace every category, and rank the same as the USA in individual freedom. I'm sure though you'll just point out something about rubber ducks being illegal though and call me a cunt again. If that's the case, don't bother replying lad.

>>53749189
you did, you literally destroyed and genocided Eastern Europe by bunch of econimical laws.

>>53749294
It's not because you can't be openly racist and insulting people in the media that it is "shit." The same way the student debt thing doesn't make the entire U.S university system "shit".

This is going nowhere, and is really getting boring now.

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>>53749544
literally you right now

>>53746083
>Your gun laws apply to the whole country
Gun laws are entirely a state matter. In practice, they're all cucked by the federal government into adopting its "national firearms agreement" (ie: do it or we stop giving you money)

>>53748921
>Your living standards are the highest in the world, sure
If you're poor as fuck, sure. We're probably the best English speaking nation to live in if you're a poorfag but if you're rich, you're better off in the US or even fucking NZ where income taxes are lower

>>53749405
Then go buy a toy-looking novelty lighter. Post proof.

>>53749405

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34048497


http://www.traveller.com.au/australia-the-land-of-the-idiot-gi36oy

http://m.baka.com.au/nsw/nanny-state-rules-making-australia-worlds-dumbest-nation-tyler-brl-20150526-gh9myx.html

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/welcome-to-australia-the-worlds-most-overregulated-nanny-state/news-story/49aa0a414ae87b9ef54e85b40af36b47

It's a nanny state bro.

>freedom index rankings

Because they either rank economic freedom (not personal freedom)

Or include shit like "freedom from discrimination" or "free healthcare". Neither of which is a negative liberty.

America has much more negative liberty than Australia.

Everybody hates you, USA: Middle East, commie states, Australia, Canada, Europe, France, Russia, Mexico. Literally EVERYBODY except maybe some small irrelevant cucks like Baltics and Poland.
Just nuke yourself already.

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>>53749790

>>53749790
Sorry Ivan, but we're not going anywhere unless you do it yourselves.

>>53749405
>>53749770
Again that infex has shif like gender equality and lgbt rights as freedom.


>Are there personal social freedoms, including gender equality, choice of marriage partners, and size of family?

https://www.freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world-2015/methodology

None of those are negative liberties. Nice try

>>53749770
>Then go buy a toy-looking novelty lighter. Post proof.

I'm not driving for 30 minutes to buy a lighter to prove my point on 4chan. I know I'm correct and I don't care if you don't believe me.

>collection of links
https://www.mrconservative.com/2012/02/2392-american-control-freaks/
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/18-examples-of-the-nanny-state-gone-wild
http://www.cnbc.com/2012/05/31/Americas-Nanny-State-Laws.html
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/oct/15/isamericasnannystategrowin

It's a nanny state bro, right?

>America has much more negative liberty than Australia

I actually agree with you on that one, partially. Mostly relating to the media and the banned video games/movies I mentioned before. I don't agree with the other stuff, like laser pointers and yo yo waterballs though, whatever the fuck a yo yo waterball is. I don't think we have less liberty because we ask that manufacturers stick to our safety guidelines.

>>53750208
>I'm correct believe me!

Ok. Like how I should have believed you when it comes to helmet laws not being enforced.

M8 your cunt is such a nanny state that an inquiry was held over it in your senate

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-11/senate-nanny-state-inquiry-begins/6766740

>stick to safety regulations

But what happened was that your nanny government banned that shit because it feared children choking themselves (despite no child ever dying to a yoyo waterball worldwide) or that terrorists will use laser pointers to bring down planes (despite it never happening) so both were banned and now you can only own the neutered versions, just like how we're allowed neutered chocolate eggs with toys inside.

But yeah I prefer to have much more negative rights myself. To each to his own.

We got something called the freedom of expression, it's basically the same thing as the first bill of rights. The radical discrimination laws just means you can't be openly racist but instead more sly and clever about it

>>53749847
niggers luv u m8

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Why are Americans so obssesed with insulting other countries when their country is fucked?

>Only 62% non-hispanic white
>huge crime rates
>birthplace of the SJW and tumblr
>blames all their problems (gun violence, drugs etc.) on blacks but can't do anything about it
>get charged thousands of dollars for basic hospital operations
>Political system is fucking stupid, gerrymandering and corruption are rife
>13-17% of the population live in poverty
>78 million adults and 12 million children are obese

Shoo shoo burger-eating gorilla lover

>>53748882
Of course it's backwards in Australia

>>53750565
Why are Australians so obssesed with insulting other countries when their country is fucked? I mean >>53742880

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>>53750565
Did someone say 'merica thread?

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>>53750673
>>53750681

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>>53750713
Can I get a MURICA!

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>>53750755
freedom is the only way YEAH

>>53750713
>>53750755
Do they all wear diapers? When was the last time he saw his dick?

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>>53750797
>>53750808
Dunno man

>>53750458
>Ok. Like how I should have believed you when it comes to helmet laws not being enforced.

They're not, where I live. I can't speak for Adelaide, thousands of kilometres from where I live and where the article was from that you posted.

>now you can only own the neutered versions, just like how we're allowed neutered chocolate eggs with toys inside.
Yeah, pretty much. If you do a Google search for "wacky shit banned in the US", you'll find that governments just love to ban fun shit.

>To each his own.
Yes.

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>>53750848

The sad truth is that nobody here really likes the gun laws very much, which is why a lot of people outside the city still have guns.

The safety laws are overbearing and it's due to a much more inherent problem with one generation being the only one catered to politically (boomers)

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>>53750884

>>53750673
We're at least top 5 in pretty much every metric that indicates a high quality of life. We're one of a handful of countries that can actually put forward a claim to being the best country to live in 2016.

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>>53750933

>>53750884
now that's triggering. What kinda fucked up sign is that?

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>americunts think they are free

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>>53750970
I think I've made my point I can continue if you want though

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>>53750933

>>53751037
Keep going please, I need to build up my folder

>>53750970
>you make me a sandwich

I think she's had enough

Backing to my first argument:
Australia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>piss>>>> Usa

>>53751061
aren't you doing the exact same thing?

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>>53751076
it would be my pleasure

>>53751061
I think you're the on who should be applying that picture to yourself retard

>>53750848
Who's my daddy? :o

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>>53751131

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>>53751123
>>53751131

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>>53751158

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>>53751176
>not even applicable to the given situation
hahahaha keep trying

>>53751204

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>>53751259

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>>53751259

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>>53751259

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>>53751292
>literally no argument

>>53751308

>>53751308
That poor kid

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>>53751388

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>be american
>don't tip your milkman
>get shot

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american posters are the best posters

>>53751425
Oi cunt how about actually saying something rather than spurting /pol/ memes and showing everyone you don't have anything behind what you're saying you colossal retard

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>>53751472
>those hairy legs

Like it needed another excuse for not being found attractive.

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>>53751506
Jesus christ

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>>53751558
Or I could keep spamming silly ms paint pictures and watching smelly foreigners get riled up over them.

>cherry picking pictures of obese people as if it's the standard

Everytime

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>>53751704
>taking any of this seriously
everytime

>>53744182
Should've told them about your night blindness

>>53744791
>cant handle the banter

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>>53751704
sure thing fatso

>>53751945
>Obesity rates in Australia are climbing faster than anywhere else in the world, according to a new study.

>The results of the global study into obesity rates, published in the medical journal The Lancet, show almost a quarter of the country's children and 63 per cent of the adult population is overweight.

>Australia's obesity levels are now on par with the United States, but slightly less than New Zealand.

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>They thought they could out banter the strayans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMdbVHPmCW0

>>53752063
Holly shit, man. Learn to handle the bantz.

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Is that true Americans don't know how to wipe their asses?

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>>53752063
>being a bitch

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>>53752193
yeah thats what I heard

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>you'll never be American

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>>53752435
That feel

>>53752617
fucking what

>>53742948

It's popular in the U.S. and I've met a good man Candians that use it.

Outside of that I only know of Swedes using any form of it.

In fact I'm using it right now. Kind of a disgusting habbit desu, but at least I don't ell like an ash tray all the time.

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>>53752617
Why live?

>>53752786
oh so it's chewing or snorting tobacco? or snuff?

Holy moly I missed the thread

Who won? Libertarian or Australia?

>>53752892
Idk it was a weird thread. All the non-Americans were shitting on America though. The OP started it at like 8am Australian time like a retard

>>53752892
Strayans always win the banter

>>53752855

Chew is the old school long leaf kind that you actually chew on. What you commonly see in westerns or American Civil War films.

Dip is ground up more and yo don't chew on it

Snus is mostly in little cloth pouches here, but you can find loose Snus which is a lot like dip

Snuff, at least how I've always been told is like what Germans have which is dry and powder like that you snort.

The main difference between loose Swedish Snus and American style dip or snus is how the leaf is dried and cured.

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>>53749790
>Russia in charge of international relations

>>53752063
this is only true of regional areas. It's quite rare to see fat people in our cities.

>>53743424

You can't shoot your mates with a .22

>>53753995
Aim for legs.

>>53753995
>You can't shoot your mates with a .22
Not if you're a soft cunt.

>>53742880
you forgot your australian proxy

>>53753995

You can, they just won't notice

>>53743266
No we don't want to increase useless finding to medicare because retards are getting put in fucking hospital with a cracked head because they were too cool to wear a helmet

>>53742880
>Americans literally can't go to a brothel legally unless they live in a specific district of one of their least populated states
>An american could die serving in their army at 18 without ever having a legal drink before

lol so much for muh freedumbs

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>>53742880
PUT THE EGG DOWN AND PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR

PUT THE MOTHERFUCKING EGG DOWN

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>americans get even get 'shit posting' right

>>53746083
Gun laws here are sort of federal but some of them are state level. There's a minimum set of rules that have to be enforced in every state and territory (things like needing a licence) then each state has it's own thing going. Which is why you end up with places like the NT where the absolute minimum of fedral gun laws are enforced and it remains easy to get guns and keep them legally. Then there's states like WA which go overboard and ban everything that looks funny and piles a million other rules on top of the federal ones.

Unfortunately the semi-auto ban is written into the federal laws, fuckers in Canberra basically said "adopt these rules or no funding for you for anything".

>>53742880
>all gun laws apart from the completely retarded American ones are draconian
How many people got shot in the USA last year?

>>53742880
>Airsoft is banned
Lol what a fag

>>53742880
You forgot
>No fireworks
>No flatchested girls
>Internet is only for high ranking government officials

>>53742880
>no cussing on tv
>no healthcare
>no welfare
>corrupt cops
>no bomb jokes on planes
>no shoes on planes
>no threatening the life of the president of the united states
>indefinite detention without charge

>>53760950
>no drinking at 18

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I'm not at all triggered, but meh something had to happen, we weren't completely free from being cucked

>>53742880
Rubber ducks aren't banned you moron, a toxic plastic is: https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/978240
They have rubber duck races ffs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck#Australia

>be me
>go to school
>not get shot
>eat kinder surprises

OP here. Just woke up. Holy shit the Cuckfailians seemed to get triggered so much while I was gone.

Ausfailia is a massive nanny state where its citizens sre treated like retarded children by the government.

>>53743012
Is this copypasta or do you just show up in these threads to post this everytime?

>>53767482
Also wondering this. I genuinely think it's one really upset bloke.

>hate speech laws get you arrested blah blah blah
We went through this with you the last time you posted this pasta. The only person you could even cite being affected by this was Andrew Bolt and he wasn't actually arrested, dipshit. Beyond that, you can say pretty much anything you like, as long as you have proof that it's true.

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lel

>>53762628
It's been well established for some time now that he makes up half of his shit.

>>53767639
>mo money mo problems

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>>53766425
>be American
>have aids
>have obesity
>have uni debt
>literally have to worry about hospital bills
>live in ghetto
>good chance nigger or spic
>earn $2 an hour plus tip
>country is 60% "white"
Boy at least I got muh guns and freedom, God bless, praise Israel

>>53767639
The first four literally only apply if you're black. Also the infancy death one.

>>53767639
>Site that congregates the experiences of every citizen regardless of anything
>Means anything
Kek

>>53751598
>>53751425
>>53751292
>>53751176
>>53751061
>posting entirely unrelated MS Paint pictures responding to nothing in particular in a fit of rage after getting bantered too hard
Yikes. Americans truly are the softest /int/ posters.

>>53767559
>go to court over it

fucking lol

lmao at your free speech

>>53742880
>Muh gunsh
>Muh freedomsh
>Muh shelf defensh
>get shot